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Women Now Outnumber Men Online

miller60 writes "There are now more American women than men using the Internet, according to a new study from the Pew Center on the Internet and American Life on gender and use of the Net. While a slightly larger percentage of men than women are online (68 percent vs 66 percent), the larger population of American women tips the balance. Other findings: younger women and black women outpace their male peers by larger margins than the wider population."

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  1. Surging by wombatmobile · · Score: 4, Funny

    black women have surged online in the last three years

    All kinds of women have been "surging" on the internet for a lot more than three years.

    Well, certain types of women.

    1. Re:Surging by kalyanbk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      More people are finding out about the anonymity the internet is providing and women have an opportunity to thrive in a situation where they can have as many relationships that they would be unable or afraid to have in real life without pressure from society's norms (I am not talking about just women in the US who may already have this freedom but other countries too). You will soon find that what makes a man different from a woman will change soon as both of them get similar exposure, outdoor life and access to information and no/low restriction on their behaviour. Often you may find that in such situations women will behave the same as men if not worse.

  2. Instant SlashDot poll! by Dystopian+Rebel · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I am a...

    o woman
    o man
    o geek
    o Cowboy Neal"

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    1. Re:Instant SlashDot poll! by $rtbl_this · · Score: 4, Funny

      You forgot:

      o All of the above

      I mean, have you seen the rack on Cowboy Neal?

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  3. It's true! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just write word 'sex' to google, and you can see by the links women outnumbering men easily.

  4. Re:They surveyed ~0.0023% of the population! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
  5. Bitter Experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh sure, they say they're women.

  6. Not Quite by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is the internet, the place where women are women, and some men are women too.

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    1. Re:Not Quite by doubtless · · Score: 5, Funny

      and little 15 year old girls are FBI agents.

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    2. Re:Not Quite by dangitman · · Score: 4, Funny
      This is the internet, the place where women are women, and some men are women too.

      ... and small furry creatures from Alpha Centuari were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.

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  7. But they use the net differently by shreevatsa · · Score: 5, Insightful
    What the summary doesn't point out is that women and men seem to view the internet differently.
    the research found that men value the net for the freedom it gives them to try new ways of doing things. By contrast women like the opportunities the net gives them to make and maintain human connections.
    (Look at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4555370.stm. )

    However, I have my own doubts about correct this research is --
    The Pew report also found that men are more likely to use the net to get at all kinds of information about sports results, weather, news, job offers and consumer ratings for goods and services. Men were also more likely to use the net for recreation and to listen to music, gather information for hobbies and take part in online fantasy sports leagues.
    All that is fine, but any research that doesn't mention porn must be flawed ;)
    1. Re:But they use the net differently by dheltzel · · Score: 5, Funny
      All that is fine, but any research that doesn't mention porn must be flawed ;)

      Umm, what part of "Men were also more likely to use the net for recreation" didn't you understand?

    2. Re:But they use the net differently by argStyopa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      All that is fine, but any research that doesn't mention porn must be flawed ;)
      Your last comment was meant, I suppose, to be tongue in cheek. I don't think it's wrong, however. Anyone who has 'existed' online since the early days of the WWW *knows* that pr0n has not only been endemic to the 'net experience' but has in fact driven many of its key technologies - audio, then video streaming for example.

      I understand that many people are squeamish about the subject, but if we're making a serious survey of net use, you're right - to entirely OMIT pr0n as a subject leaves an, er, gaping hole in the data.

      It would be practically like a survey of automobile use without referring to commuting.

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  8. Still alot who aren't online by venicebeach · · Score: 4, Interesting

    These results might have caught my eye more if phrased in the reverse:

    About a third of the population does not ever use the internet.

    Even in the 18-29 age range its about 1 in 5 who are not online.

  9. Re:They surveyed ~0.0023% of the population! by Guus.der.Kinderen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Even 0.0023% of the population can give a surveyor an accurate result. It all depends on the way the population was sampled. Sampling can be a science in itself though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_(statistics)

  10. It's worse than that by commodoresloat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You'd discover that 91% of the American population is dating CowboyNeal.

  11. I already knew that! See... by Hitto · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are *billions* of women on the internet.
    The catch is, their names all end in .jpg ...

    1. Re:I already knew that! See... by tuomasr · · Score: 5, Funny

      The catch is, their names all end in .jpg ...

      No way! That's where you're wrong, I've met a lot of nice women on the internet whose name didn't end in .jpg. Let's see, there was Ms. Mpg, Ms. Png, Ms. Avi and so forth.

      They must've been poor though, all wanted my credit card number, but of course I feel bad for them since they apparently couldn't even afford clothes...

    2. Re:I already knew that! See... by Zwets · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, I come from a proud line of .JPGs you insensitive clod! I resent your insinuations regarding the virtues of the women in my family!

      Our family name dates all the way back to 17th century Dutch merchants. Originally we were called "Punt-Jan-Pieters' Grootvaeder" ("Dot-Jan-Pieters' Grandfather", in a mysterious reversal of the normal practice of naming people "so-and-so's son or daughter")). It later got shortened to .JPG by a lazy government administrator.

      Sincerely,

      Hendrik Olivier Thomas .JPG

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  12. It's called sampling by wmajik · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ok, I'm not one to defend surveys much if at all given that many of them are biased and not done correctly, but the reasoning you mentioned is simply flawed. Surveys are not meant to be done on the entire population, because polling 280 million Americans would be an impossible and unfeasible task.

    Surveys take a sample of the population to be polled and use that as a representative measure of the rest of the population. The sample size then is given a confidence interval of +/- percentage points (usually 5%) that indicate the accuracy of the poll, within a reasonable standard deviation. In English, this means that polls aren't 100% accurate, but a properly done survey should be accurate within 5% of the acutal figure the majority of the time.

    Selecting a random sample from the population is often the hardest part of any survey, but can be done correctly. To flat out say that using samples means that the data is irrelevant is completely inaccurate.

    /rant

    1. Re:It's called sampling by Alien+Being · · Score: 3, Funny

      "because polling 280 million Americans would be an impossible and unfeasible task"

      Nah, we do it every 4 years... oh wait.

  13. *Buzz* News Just In... by Gr1mm-R34p3r · · Score: 3, Funny

    According to CNN this wonderfully unbiased article's research was scientifically conducted in an IRC sex chat channel over a period of six months only on Friday nights.

  14. always with the average, feh by Quadraginta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Polls comparing the average behaviour of men and women are boring and useless. Frankly, who gives a damn what the differences between the average man and average woman is? Someone who is average, I guess...

    What a pity someone doesn't look at the differences in the distribution of how men and women use the net. Here's my guess: the distibution of men who use the net is probably much wider than the distribution of women, that is, there are probably more male the female total power net geeks, and also more men than women who never use the net at all.

  15. Re:They surveyed ~0.0023% of the population! by will_die · · Score: 4, Informative

    Please read a little about statistical analysis.
    Using your population number 280000000 and 6,403 people survayed that gives a 95% confidence (which is about the norm for this type of study) that the survey answers are correct and apply to people who were not surveyed. This is with an margin of error of 1.22% which means that survey results may vary by 1.22% in either direction. This is all provided that the people surveyed where a random sample of the US population.

  16. American women? by CrimsonScythe · · Score: 4, Funny

    "...the larger population of American women tips the balance."

    But does this mean that there are more of them numerically, or that they're so large that they just tip the balance easier? This was rather ambiguous, and I refuse to read TFA to find the answer.

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  17. Using the Internet Differently by StonePiano · · Score: 5, Informative

    Check this BBC article.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4555370.stm
    Apparently men and women use the Internet for different priorities.

    Could this suggest that there is actually a difference in the genders?
    The mystery thickens...

  18. wider population by kwoff · · Score: 4, Funny

    The blurb was misleading. I think they're actually referring to the mass of women online, not the number. I'll clarify by slightly editing the quote. ObFatties:

    There are now more [of] American women than men using the Internet ... the larger population of American women tips the balance ... larger margins than the wider population.
  19. Re:but what are they doing? by AtomicBomb · · Score: 4, Insightful
    they creating new Googles? big difference, I hope they are creating new Googles, but most likely the number of women doing that is still small. It is not such an advance for female-kind to do email and chatting online!
    Who cares? Internet is just a media. Think about it as a telephone. People enjoy using it to chat with friend will continue to do so when using Internet. Many talk on the phone exclusively on business matter on the other hand. Some design to hack around (remember what's the origin of 2600?) the telephone network. We can find an analogue between the former phone commnunity to the Internet one (IM addicts/.com startup/hackers). Nothing wrong/ primitive/ need to be fixed in terms of user activity profile. It is just a reflection of the society.
  20. The best predictor is having kids. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The least likely to go on line were young and single. The most likely to go on line were married people with children. So: if you aren't tied down, there are better things to do with your life than going on the internet. Once you are tied down then the internet is a viable alternative to having a life.

  21. Newsflash! by jcr · · Score: 5, Funny

    For instance, it says that 21% of males visited adult websites

    79% of men are liars!

    -jcr

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  22. Re:They surveyed ~0.0023% of the population! by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This is with an margin of error of 1.22% which means that survey results may vary by 1.22% in either direction.

    ... which might just be enough to reverse the article title and much of what's being said in the summary. So in this case, it could still mean quite a bit.

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  23. Re:Yeah! by BrynM · · Score: 4, Funny
    With more Women online, my chances of getting laid are now bigger!
    You got it wrong man! We gotta stop this! How long until your next deathmatch is spent camping the catering talking to chix? How long until your HUD has smart looking drapes? I tell you, the internet was made by the military to let us men blow shit up virtually and they can pry my mouse from my cold dead hands when women...

    Good point. Ok, we'll let the cute ones use it. And the ones who put out. But that's it! Oh, and Sal's girlfriend too. Sorry Sal.

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  24. it does mention porn by welcher · · Score: 3, Informative
    and they say:
    We have occasionally asked users about visiting adult websites. The overall participation rates have remained constant, from about 13% - 15%. Traditionally, three to five times as many men as women have responded positively to this question.
    The numbers they give are 21% of online men saying they visit adult websites and 5% of women.
  25. I hope *someone* told them.... by GrnArmadillo · · Score: 3, Funny

    That the "hot 18 y/o girl" they were talking to online may not be exactly what they're expecting.... :)

  26. Your trouble is with editors at news sources by ianscot · · Score: 4, Insightful
    It's interesting to scan down the list of titles different sources gave this same basic story. They all basically parrot back the headline the report used, but lots don't even get that right.

    While several of the stories (like this one on /.) are saying a slightly higher percentage of women now use the 'net, the first bullet point on The Pew site says "The percentage of women using the internet still lags slightly behind the percentage of men." Later in their summary Pew gives the bland tag news sources probably reacted to: "In most categories of internet activity, more men than women are participants, but women are catching up. "

    The report itself is far more wide-ranging, and most of its interesting content gets left out of the usual suspects. I mean, parents are more likely to be online than nonparents -- 80% to 60%, which is a BIG difference. And so on. Even dramatic stuff gets discarded in favor of a horse-race-between-the-sexes thing, here. And I'll bet Pew phrased their own headline as a gender gap thing as a way of getting the attention of news sources, too -- the problem perpetuates itself.

    Why is it that general news sources touch on only one or two aspects of something like this, but the original source's press release is much richer in the same space? It's like the whole "force a dialectic on the story even if there isn't one" thing is causing reporters to discard tons of primary information to sell a faked-up conflict that isn't there. (The more tabloid a source is, the worse it gets, too. Fox makes a hell of a living pimping every story up like this.)

    In a reporting world like that, reporters aren't being asked to turn stories on their heads. They're just regurgitating press releases and reinforcing stereotypes.

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  27. We needed a study to prove this? by HikingStick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't intend this as a flame, but give me a break. In nearly every area of life women differ from men. This is not a bad thing (I can't imagine being married to someone like me!), but it flies in the face of a segment of society that wants to believe that all gender differences are learned behavior and have no basis in genetics (nurture over nature).

    Anyone who has both sons and daughters knows they are different, no matter how hard you try to androgenize them.

    We need to get over ourselves and realize that difference does not equate to inferiority.

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  28. Re:what a stupid poll by HermanAB · · Score: 3, Funny

    Nevermind the net - the whole world stops a short distance beyond the USA borders and if you would try to go beyond, you'll fall off the edge. Here, there be dragons...

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    Oh well, what the hell...
  29. Re:What's this "e-mail" I keep hearing about? by Anthony+Liguori · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And just how big is the rock that the rest of these people are living under?

    I think e-mail is slowly dying actually. A lot of kids don't really use it instead preferring to use instant messenger. If a kid has their own computer with broadband access, that stays on 24x7, why not just use IM?

    Spam really hurts the usefulness of e-mail for a lot of users. Personally, I've reduced my personal e-mail account to just notification from various things I'm involved in (school, bills, etc.).

    The thing I like so much about IM is that only people who I've explicitly allowed to contact me can actually contact me. This means no spam. With logging, and grep, it's just as useful a communications history as e-mail.

  30. What about the spam result?? by drasfr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Am I the only that is amazed? (or read the full survey!) at this line that says:

    Order from Spam: 6% of online men. 5% of online women.

    5%, even with a margin of error is still a lot. But i know that it is probably true. At a previous business that wasn't doing spam but were sending small email campaigns we were estimating a return rate of about 3%.

    I just think this number is scaringly high... the reason spam works, spammers still have work, and my 6 years old email address receives over 500 spams a day!

    so, yes, am I the only one amazed by this? I would have like to have more question on this topic, like what do you buy from spam? Are you satisfied with it? How often do you buy from spam? etc...

  31. Re:They surveyed ~0.0023% of the population! by Gonzodoggy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sounds just like AOL in the old days... 75% of the women were really men.

  32. Re:They surveyed ~0.0023% of the population! by Skye16 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I do!

    Oh wait, fuck! You tricked me!