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China Declares War on Internet Pornography

segphault writes "The Chinese government has shut down nearly 600 pornographic web sites, and arrested over 200 people for distributing "obscene" content. The Chinese government has also started performing covert surveillance of mobile phone text messages in order to crack down on banking fraud and prostitution organized and perpetrated with text messages. Ars Technica has the story: 'With more than 100 million Internet users, China has the second largest population of web content consumers after the United States. Although the Chinese government promotes web use for business, education, and government activity, the communist regime has committed its resources to crushing web sites that challenge government authority, or distribute content that the government considers to be detrimental to society'"

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  1. My Dreamjob: by zerojoker · · Score: 5, Funny

    checking content for the Chinese government and censor it accordingly.
    Watching P0rn from 9 to 5 at work... hm wait, that's not that different to my current job...

    1. Re:My Dreamjob: by irtza · · Score: 5, Funny

      They'll have absolutely no problems filling positions for these jobs. Probably will become one of the most sought after jobs in China. Maybe you should move there before it becomes impossible to get a position.

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    2. Re:My Dreamjob: by pHatidic · · Score: 4, Funny

      I used to have that job, but now I'm on disability leave because of an on-the-job injury: carpal tunnel.

  2. Wow! 600 porn sites!!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's that? Like 0.0001% of all pornsites out there?

    1. Re:Wow! 600 porn sites!!!!!! by PHPfanboy · · Score: 5, Funny
      porn sites in Chinese..

      This must be really inconvenient for the fans, they'll have to visit non-Chinese-language sites and they'll have no idea what they're looking at.

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  3. I believe this is nothing new for china by manavendra · · Score: 5, Informative
    For a communist country with a long history of very little respect for civil liberties and personal autonomy.
    In the past they have:
    1. China: Police Shut Down Gay, Lesbian Event
    2. Rampant Violence and Intimidation Against Petitioners - Chinese citizens who petition Chinese authorities for the redress of grievances are attacked, beaten, threatened, and intimidated
    Not to mention China's stance on Hongkong's pursuit of democracy...
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    1. Re:I believe this is nothing new for china by Txiasaeia · · Score: 4, Informative
      Given that Lot thought God would be thrilled for Lot to send his daughters out to the crowd to keep the rowdy neighbors from bothering his angelic neighbors...

      And general Christian thought is that Lot was a hypocrite for doing so.

      ... the wife-stealing, husband-murdering David was the anointed of God...

      Widely thought of as a failure of David's, and the reason why he wasn't allowed to build God's temple.

      ... the mother of Christ was an unwed teenager already engaged to somebody else when she got pregnant...

      By the Holy Spirit. According to church thought, Mary did nothing wrong.

      ...and the wild adventures of Onan who was supposed to commit adultery against his own wife by impregnating his dead brother's wife...

      First of all, nowhere in Genesis 38 does it say that Onan was married. Second, there were some very good reasons for levirate marriages to be performed during this period.

      ...and you get one heck of a lot of porn in the Bible itself.

      Porn? Porn is, as far as I'm concerned, defined as gratuitious sexual references in whatever format designed to titilate. Lot's actions showed us how screwed up he was. David's actions, too, go to show why God's chosen wasn't allowed to build the temple. Mary did absolutely nothing wrong, and there's no reference to sex *at all* in the accounts of her conception in the Gospels. The closest you have to any kind of graphic sexuality is the story of Onan, but the story was about how he was disobedient; it wasn't a pornographic story in any way, shape, or form.

      Perhaps you're confusing "sex" with "porn," in which case yes, there are several sexual references and stories with sexual overtones in the Bible. But these references do not mean that the Bible is pornographic, any more than this post is pornographic.

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  4. Nothing to see here, move on by liangzai · · Score: 5, Interesting

    China regularly launches campaigns like this, and although the "saohuang" (clean up the porn) movement is effective in barring domestic porn sites, there is absolutely nothing China can do about the influx of porn from abroad, especially from Japan and the West.

    Furthermore, China is becoming more and more lax about porn, which any visitor to the country will realize within a day or so. Only the hardliners are still fighting it, but they might as well start a program to eradicate all the flies in the world. It is all in vain.

    Now, why is China fighting porn? Because it is an old taboo since the times after the Tang dynasty. Before, China was sexually liberal, and now the times are turning again. This has to do with the opening up to the outer world in general, and with Internet in particular.

    You should also note that there is no law against downloading or consuming porn in China. It is legal, it is practiced, and it is virtually unfiltered on the net (bar a few percent of the sites). What is illegal is copying and distributing porn, especially for commercial purposes. Spreading less than 20 "huangdai" (yellow tapes, porn videos) is not punishable. 20--99 tapes (or images) is punishable, and above 500 tapes (or images) is considered severe, with a potential lifetime imprisonment. This also goes for digital content.

    The effect is that China is consuming as much porn as the rest of the world, but they won't be able to cash in on it. This is bound to change in the future, if you ask me.

    1. Re:Nothing to see here, move on by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, at least our friendly Bush administration has something in common with Communist China:

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic le/2005/09/19/AR2005091901570.html

      Now who knows what other similiarities they have? Perhaps we'll find out that they actually torture prisoners in secret locations to fight the war on terror, similiar as China tortures a diverse range of seperatists for their own "war on terror":

      http://www.cfr.org/publication/4765/chinas_war_on_ terror.html?breadcrumb=default

      Nothing to see here, move along people!

  5. Benefits of this... by IAAP · · Score: 5, Interesting
    really.

    FTFA: The Chinese government also recently increased surveillance of mobile phone text messaging, a popular method of communication in China where 383 million individuals use mobile phones.

    For one thing, I didn't know that it was that easy for the cops. I bet it's even easier here in the US. Now that I know that the police have this capabliltiy, I can be a bit more vigilant about my own civil liberites, as much as I can. These things that China is doing is bringing to light some of the capabilities that police around the world have.

    I am curious though, exactly how easy is it? Can some local cops in anytown, USA do this?

  6. On the other hand... by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

    How much liberty and freedom would you sacrifice to remove goatse and tubgirl from the net?

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  7. Re:Chinese government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... as if millions of pr0n-addicts moaned in disappointment and were suddenly silenced ...

    Until they realized that http://images.google.com/ wasn't blocked. :P

  8. War on Porn Vs War on Drugs by masterpenguin · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm taking all bets on which war is going to be won first.

    The War on Drugs

    or The War on Porn

    Place your bets now...

    1. Re:War on Porn Vs War on Drugs by NoOneInParticular · · Score: 4, Funny
      The War on Gambling.

      Consider yourself arrested.

  9. Communist country? Are you serious? by Flying+pig · · Score: 5, Insightful
    China is not a Communist country. It's an oligarchic dictatorship. The fact that said oligarchy calls itself "communist" is about as relevant as Lebanese militias calling themselves "Christian" or the Provisional IRA calling itself "Trotskyite". You can call yourself what you like. But if you want historical parallels for current Chinese government, the Imperial Roman system or the Venetian Serene Republic are probably closer analogies.

    I wouldn't get cross about this misnomenclature except that there have been a very few real attempts at Communist government, notably in India, and they shouldn't be dirtied by association. Let's be clear - if the Chinese people eventually overthrow or modernise their government, it will be the end of the process of the rise and collapse of large scale dictatorships in the 20th Century.

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    1. Re:Communist country? Are you serious? by FriedTurkey · · Score: 4, Interesting

      True Communism has been tried many times. It is destined to change into a oligarchic dictatorship everytime. That is why Communism will always fail. Ideals are always thrown out after that much power is given to so few people. Orwell's Animal Farm has happened so many times in different countries. Just subsitute different names for the characters.

    2. Re:Communist country? Are you serious? by tiggles · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh, you're just all high and mighty because you can drink your tap water and aren't in the early stages of cadmium poisoning.

    3. Re:Communist country? Are you serious? by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 4, Informative

      What you speak of is called "Oligarchical Socialism". True Communism has no government and no private ownership of the means of production.

  10. The Chinese have misunderstood the Internet by ReelOddeeo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Clearly, the Chinese government has misunderstood the very purpose of the Internet .

    Such a fundamental misunderstanding of how the Internet is, and was intended to be used will result in the Chinese people using the Internet for less desirable purposes such as dissent, subversion, and spreading dangerous ideas such as freedom of thought and expression.

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  11. To sum up by deblau · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Sex is good, unless it's for money, then it's bad (in capitalist America, who would have thought?). Porn is good, unless you're a conservative. Sex with children is bad, but selling it is really bad. Violent porn is very, very bad. Violence in general is bad, unless you're under a repressive government, in which case it's OK to overthrow a dictator if it's yours, but not if it's somebody else's. China is terrible, because they spy on their citizens. America is the greatest country on Earth, we'd never do that. Oh, wait, yes we would. It's great to speak out, unless you're in a paranoid government that doesn't follow its own laws (but I just covered that). But we're still the best, because we're loud, over-confident, and we've got the 82nd Airborne, and all you other countries don't, so neener neener. Oh yeah, and we've got God on our side, and that beats all you heathens.

    Did I miss anything?

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