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The Odds at Macworld

Moby Cock writes "Jason O'Grady has posted the odds on what is to be announced at the Macworld Expo beginning next week. Coming in at 100:1 is OS X 10.5 and even money on a new and sexy Intel Mac Minis and iBooks. Gentlemen, start your credit cards."

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  1. check with the lawyers by User+956 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You can always tell which rumors are true by the rapid-fire Apple lawsuits to the websites responsible.

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  2. Price increases for iTunes by hsmith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have no problem paying $.99 for a song, but i will pay no more. This happens and I will be looking other places for my music for my iPod. They have to pay none of the traditional distribution costs of CD's, so they shouldn't even be the price they are now. you want to be greedy, i'll look elsewhere.

    1. Re:Price increases for iTunes by jocknerd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well considering that it wouldn't be Apple's choice to raise the prices, I would think it might be pretty hard to find lower prices from legitimate online stores.

      Personally, I don't care if the prices go to a tiered structure. I don't buy the "hits" so the songs I'd purchase would probably come out cheaper than $.99.

  3. Who cares about the pro users? by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    O'Grady writes :"Hopefully it'll be the PowerBook nano I've been dreaming of. Unfortunately, it's not likely as the pro software (Final Cut, Creative Suite, etc.) isn't universal binary yet. Rosetta emulation isn't fun folks. Odds: 50-1."

    So, basically, he's saying that because a certain segment of the userbase will be waiting a little while, EVERYONE should wait?

    If Apple doesn't ship Intel Powerbooks now, these users are going to be waiting, because they certainly aren't going to buy G4 powerbooks unless they absolutely have to. If Apple does ship Intel Powerbooks now, these users are going to be waiting for their apps to be shipped as Universal binaries.

    So, given that these customers are ogoing to be waiting either way, why shouldn't Apple get hardware on the market to serve the customers who *can* buy now? Customers for whom XCode is their main app, not Photoshop or Final Cut.

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    1. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by ivan256 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So, given that these customers are ogoing to be waiting either way, why shouldn't Apple get hardware on the market to serve the customers who *can* buy now?

      Because unlike every other laptop vendor out there, Apple is all about the full experience, not just the box. If Apple did what you're describing, why wouldn't people just go buy a Dell, or a Sony instead? It's the same hardware for the most part now...

      If they want to keep their premium rep, they can't ship the new hardware until *all* of the new software is ready.

    2. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by cosmo7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Historically,

      Apple switches to 32-bit clean 68K: Adobe promptly updates Photoshop
      Apple switches to System 7.0: Adobe promptly updates Photoshop
      Apple starts using 68040: Adobe promptly updates Photoshop
      Apple switches to PowerPC: Adobe promptly updates Photoshop
      Apple starts using SMP: Adobe promptly updates Photoshop
      Apple switches to OS X: Adobe promptly updates Photoshop

      So except for these events you're correct. If you want a laggard, try Quark.

  4. Re:The irony by ThaFooz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Oh, man, that's gotta hurt the Mac zealots even more than the switch to intel. Apple hiring *PC laptop designers* to build the next Powerbook.

    I think Mac zelots (arguably myself included) are more enamored with the OS than the hardware. My gripe with PC manufactures out there is a lot of shoddy support, bottom-of-the-barrel parts, and bulky/ugly laptop design and only a handfull of gems.

  5. Inconsistencies... by djrogers · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, a sexy new Intel based mac mini seems likely, but in light of that why are they only giving 10:1 odds on an iLife/Frontrow upgrade? It seems the new mini would be the perfect platform to add PVR functionality to, but with no upgrades/additions to iLife, it seems the new minis would move from a killer living room appliance to a minor curiousity...

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  6. Huh? by macwhizkid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Interesting speculation, but a lot of it just doesn't quite add up.

    -The AirPort "Ultra" would "be able to stream video to your TV - in High Definition". Where is all this HD content coming from? Not from the iTMS, not from DVDs. Assuming this AirPort is running 802.11g, streaming HD content is iffy at best. Apple is known for making things easy. I don't see how this could possibly fly as a consumer product. Maybe in another year or two, with faster WiFi and more HD content.

    -Jason reckons that the Intel PowerBooks won't be released because (despite all the engineering done) not all the pro software is written yet for Intel, and Rosetta emulation just isn't fun. But then his #1 prediction is for Intel iBooks? Doesn't make sense to me.

    -Why are iLife & iWork updates so unlikely (10% and 4% odds, respectively)? Unless Apple is just willing to let this software die (unlikely given relations with Microsoft), this is practically a given. Maybe not until summer, but the odds of an announcement or mention are more likely on the order of 50% - 75%, IMO.

    Sorry, I'm just not buying it. Guess I'll wait until next week to find out for sure.

  7. Re:Jobs is the Anti Buddha by paiute · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Buddha would tell us that anyone who goes on about Buddhaism for more than two sentences is to be ignored because they do not get it.

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  8. Why the "Replace Tivo" hardon? by Viewsonic · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I dont understand this. Tivo right now, works perfect. It is the iPod of DVRs. The only way this will be replaced by Apple is if Apple releases a machine that can do CableCard HDTV recordings - And do it as simple and elegantly as Tivo can. We have a problem here, for this sort of recording, people will be wanting 500 gig or so of space. I hardly think you're going to be sticking this much space in a Mac Mini.

    I just dont think Apple is going to make a DVR to actually compete with Tivo. Let alone "defeat it in one fell swoop!!#!11111!!!".

    Might they make DVR software for say, college kids and such? With a little dongle for cable input? Sure. But this would hardly make any waves in the DVR market.

  9. That sound you hear? by TCQuad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't buy the "hits" so the songs I'd purchase would probably come out cheaper than $.99.

    That sound you hear in the background is thousands of executives worldwide laughing at your naiveté.

  10. Noooooooo! by sootman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Apple's productivity suite will get upgrades to Pages and Keynote with the possible addition of a modern Office-killing spreadsheet application (rumored to be called "Numbers" or "Sheets"). If it reads and writes Excel files the Apple spreadsheet will be the final nail is Microsoft Office's coffin. Microsoft will waste no time in announcing the end of support for Office for the Mac if this happens.

    And then Apple can kiss all of its corporate sales goodbye. Nope, not gonna happen. Maybe a light-duty, somewhat-compatible spreadsheet for people to make little lists with, but Apple knows it will lose more in corporate hardware sales than it can ever make back with their little $99-a-pop suite.

    Besides, if there's one thing we have learned, it's that 100% compatibility with MS Office file formats is impossible. Can OOo do it? Can Quark or InDesign perfectly import Word docs? Hell, do MS Office for Mac and Win perfectly read each others' files? No, no, and no.

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    1. Re:Noooooooo! by NardofDoom · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hell. Microsoft's own software doesn't import everything correctly.

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  11. Re:Nah.... by theAtomicFireball · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Sad thing is, all Mac software assumes one button so those extra buttons will be doing pretty much nothing the next few... decades or so...
    *Buzz* Thanks for playing.

    OS X has supported multiple buttons and scroll wheels natively since its very first release, as the OS's event architecture was originally designed to accommodate Next's three-button mouse. Apple continued to develop the multi-button support under OS X despite shipping a single-button mouse. Most OS X applications (Cocoa, Carbon, and even Java) have always automatically taken advantage of the OS-level support for scroll wheels and right-clicking for basic tasks (e.g. copy, cut, paste) without doing anything, plus OS X developers routinely add additional contextual menus and other types of support for modern mice. I don't know a single OS X developer who routinely uses a single button mouse, and I've met a good number of them. On top of that, I believe that the Mighty Mouse's buttons are fully customizable in the System Preferences (not sure on that - I still use an old Logitech mouse on my Mac)

    OS X applications never require a multi-button mouse, but they almost universally support them.