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Genetic Clues to Cause of Death?

An anonymous reader writes "Nature is reporting that a certain 'telltale genetic fingerprint' may help scientists to more accurately determine a cause of death. From the article: 'Now a team at Nagasaki University has shown that a person's own genes might help to reveal how they met their end. Kazuya Ikematsu and his colleagues anesthetized and then killed two small groups of mice, by either strangulation with a string, or by decapitation. They dissected skin samples from the animals' necks and compared the activity of a broad spectrum of genes inside the skin cells, by looking at the amount of RNA pumped out by those genes. The researchers found four genes that were more active in the strangled animals than those that had died suddenly.'"

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  1. "...by either strangulation with a string..." by Aranth+Brainfire · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cue the Monty Python references.

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    1. Re:"...by either strangulation with a string..." by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Funny

      Forget monty python, I'm wondering if you can actually decapitate an xbox 360 power supply.

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    2. Re:"...by either strangulation with a string..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      So they really will be able to tell if you've choked your chicken?

  2. seriously... by PrinceAshitaka · · Score: 5, Funny

    I understand that the researchers are trying to determine if a subject died by "strangulation or other means" , but here's an easy way to tell if a subject died by decapitation or strangulation without having to resort to costly genetic tests. Measure the distance between the head and neck. If d > 0 , the subject was probably decapitated. I guess this test would be useful in determining if the subject was strangulated before decapitated, but how often are the investigators wondering that.

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    1. Re:seriously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      Measure the distance between the head and neck.

      But what if the head is not found?

    2. Re:seriously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      d->+oo => d>0 =>decapitated.

    3. Re:seriously... by kahei · · Score: 1, Funny


      Yeah, I've been decapitated once a week since I was 12, and it never did me any harm.

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  3. What about Blue Screen of Death? by jkrise · · Score: 2, Funny

    My computer frequently send out genetic samples to some researcher somewhere in the world, everytime it dies... no one seems to have a clue yet!

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  4. Re:energy is liberated through blasphemy by kg4czo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe daddy loved him too much....

  5. Kinky. by Phariom · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Kazuya Ikematsu and his colleagues anesthetized and then killed two small groups of mice, by either strangulation with a string, or by decapitation."

    Well, if his experiments don't work out, I'm sure Mr. Ikematsu could always make a few surgical alterations to himself and find gainful employment as a dominatrix for small rodents.

  6. Detectives, rejoice! by meringuoid · · Score: 4, Funny
    No longer will there be any doubt over whether the murder victim was strangled or beheaded, which has in the past been a cause of great difficulty in investigations due to the lack of any very obvious physical feature that might distinguish a decapitation victim from someone who has been hanged. You'll now have access to a DNA test to put the question beyond doubt.

    Isn't progress wonderful?

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  7. Re:Wrong by Ed_1024 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can now announce, after years of research and thousands of mice, that it is possible to differentiate between them having being killed by a blender, a hacksaw or just plain deep-frying. I am now working on staple guns, sulfuric acid and gamma rays but as yet do not have a statistically significant sample because the pet shop has run out of mice and I have had to switch to fluffy bunnies.

  8. Re:Nature's Black Box? by _Hellfire_ · · Score: 4, Funny
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  9. Re:an argument for lamarckianism by maxwell+demon · · Score: 5, Funny

    For mice you have to use mdb, since gdb is only the gnu debugger.

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  10. Re:You see, this is why I regret going into CS by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 2, Funny
    he was getting paid $10/hr to hit rats in the head with a piston

    So if he had a V8 engine running at 6000 rpm, he could make nearly $2.9m/hr? Sign me up!

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  11. New SVU episode inspiration by digitaldc · · Score: 2, Funny

    Kazuya Ikematsu and his colleagues anaesthetized and then killed two small groups of mice, by either strangulation with a string, or by decapitation.

    This story will be 'ripped from the headlines' on the next episode of 'Law & Order: Small Victims Unit.'

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  12. A disturbance in the force. by leuk_he · · Score: 2, Funny

    They are killing mouse. I feel a small disturbance in the force.

    (anyone up for any THHTTG quotes?)

  13. "up to snuff" by PoorLenore · · Score: 2, Funny

    What an apposite turn of phrase.

  14. Re:OMFG! by indifferent+children · · Score: 2, Funny
    animals ARE AWARE TOO!

    Not after these guys get through with them.

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  15. Re:Killing that way should not be allowed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Personally I am against the killing of animals in a way that causes pain and/or fear. Even for scientific purposes.

    You'd prefer these tests be run on humans instead?

    Come back when you are actually willing to die in their stead. Then we'll talk.

    Until then....squeeeEEEAAAK!

  16. Re:an argument for lamarckianism by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 3, Funny
    For mice you have to use mdb

    I don't think we can fit the entire mouse genome into an Access mbd.

  17. Re:You see, this is why I regret going into CS by SydShamino · · Score: 2, Funny

    I dunno, has your PC ever accidentally shot rat blood in your eye?

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  18. Can I suggest "volunteers" for the human trials? by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have a long list.

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