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ATI Talks Revolution Graphics

Via 1up, an interview at the site Revolution Report talking with ATI about the power of the Revolution's graphics. From the article: "What I can say is that ATI is focused, as is Nintendo, in making [Revolution] a great, gaming entertainment platform. I know that a lot of journalists are very focused on specs. It's the big thing; as a geek, I look for that too. The key thing to keep in mind is that Nintendo, with ATI's help, is trying to create a game console where you don't have to look at [specs]."

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  1. Re:Um... by pnice · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think they mean the games will be fun enough to not care about what the specs are. If the games look good/decent and the games are great specs won't really matter.

  2. Re:don't have to look at [specs] by Planesdragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, it's like when you buy a cell phone, a toaster, or a lawn mower. Most of us don't care about the phone's processor speed or memory, just how well it handles calls and for how long. Most of us don't care about the wattage of the toaster, just that it makes toast. Most of us don't care about the horsepower of a lawnmower, just that it cuts grass.

    Or to go back to cars--we don't care about horsepower, we care about performance.

  3. Re:don't have to look at [specs] by AuMatar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can't give you a single performance number on my car. Or any other car, for that matter. I know it has no trouble driving at 60-70, when I test drove it (road testing since got it to 100 briefly, over that I don't feel safe even trying). I knew it had enough acceleration that I felt I could hit the gas to avoid something. I have no idea what the top speed actually is, I have no idea what the acceleration actually is. I have no idea how many horses and what torque the engine puts out. It puts out enough, thats all I care about.

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  4. Um, ATI, that's worrisome by hambonewilkins · · Score: 4, Insightful
    When a company whose entire business is based on specs (look at our mhz compared to NVidia!) and upping those specs every couple months, it is a bit disingenous to say "specs aren't important" just because you a) don't have them or b) don't want to release them because they are worse than PS3/Xbox360.

    Something similar happened a couple years back (IIRC) when AMD was losing the MHz battle and stated that MHz isn't everything. Well, sure, it isn't. But your whole argument this entire time has been that it is. So, when you shift your argument only when your losing... probably means the argument isn't all that good.

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    1. Re:Um, ATI, that's worrisome by -kertrats- · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Nintendo's specs certainly will be worse than the 360 and PS3. However, I don't have a dual-screen 1080i setup, either, just a plain old 21-inch CRT television. In all likelihood, the extra power that I would get from a 360 and in all likelihood will get from the PS3 will go to waste on me. The Revolution is just fine.

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    2. Re:Um, ATI, that's worrisome by sigloiv · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Something similar happened a couple years back (IIRC) when AMD was losing the MHz battle and stated that MHz isn't everything. Well, sure, it isn't. But your whole argument this entire time has been that it is. So, when you shift your argument only when your losing... probably means the argument isn't all that good.

      There's just one porblem with your analogy: the AMD processors with less Mhz actually did run faster than the higher Mhz Intels. So, technically, Mhz didn't matter. AMD just had one period of time when their processors were faster than Intel's processors with higher clock speeds (IIRC, AMD was the first one to release a desktop x86 processor at 1Ghz).

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  5. Re:Spec, schmeks :-P by Fred+Or+Alive · · Score: 3, Funny

    Surely the Revolution will at least support widescreen TVs, I'd much prefer to play Giant White Rectangle.

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  6. Re:don't have to look at [specs] by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Horsepower is a rating of engine performance. You need to know at minimum three things about a car to know what its power performance (as opposed to handling performance) is going to be like; weight, peak horsepower, and peak torque. Optimally you would also have gear ratios, and full hp and torque curves. An extremely significant percentage of auto buyers do want to know MANY statistics, including horsepower, torque, mileage city and freeway, and interior space.

    Personally, I want to know the wattage of my toaster, and all my other appliances, so I can decide what gets plugged in where. I admit this is a pretty unusual desire, though.

    You are 100% wrong about the horsepower rating of a lawnmower. People do want to know this, which is why every single lawnmower at sears has a horsepower rating on it. They don't want to know the displacement, because that's largely irrelevant - so not ALL specs are critical, but some certainly are.

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  7. Re:don't have to look at [specs] by PeelBoy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No the thing that matters most is fun. If you're buying a car for horsepower you probably want a car that is fast and fun to drive. Well guess what? Horse power isn't the only thing that makes a car. What about suspension? How heavy/thick/nice the steering wheel is? How great the tranny shifts? There is a LOT MORE to a car than just horsepower.

    Let's use the Honda S2K as an example. It doesn't have a huge engine or a shit ton of horsepower but it's probably one of the most fun cars to drive.. Sounds a lot like Nintendo to me.

    Now lets look at a drag car. It is fast. Real fast. It goes really fast in a strait line. It's fun, but uhhh.. Yeah.. All it does is go in a strait line.

    I don't fucking care of the Revolution has the power of the SNES if they can make games that are FUN who fucking cares? I mean nice graphics are great. I love cod2, but if power and graphics are all that matters how come the DS is such a better buy than the PSP?

    It's the game that counts not the car.. or system.. or whatever. I'd rather have a sweet car with a hot chick in the passanger seat than a bad ass car with an ugly dude in the passanger seat.

  8. Sony & MS killed fanboism! by Orochimaru · · Score: 4, Funny

    With the lack of exclusive games on consoles these days all we have left to argue about is console specs. It's sad that todays generation of kids will not experience what it means to be a true fanboy. For the record, Sonic could kick Mario's ass anytime, anywhere ;)

    1. Re:Sony & MS killed fanboism! by Supurcell · · Score: 4, Funny
      For the record, Sonic could kick Mario's ass anytime, anywhere ;)
      Maybe in a footrace, bitch.
  9. Re:Sounds alot like by SetupWeasel · · Score: 4, Informative

    Personally I haven't played anything with Nintendo on it since the N64 and the batarang controller, but I still love and play alot of SNES and NES games.

    Well, sucks to be you then. Missed out on a lot of good games.

  10. Re:Um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just as a question, how many flops does it take to generate a good videogame?
    How many polygon's make a model which is attractive?

    The point is that Numbers are meaningless now, it is the creativity and talent of the game developers that matters. World of Warcraft isn't nearly as technically as impressive as Everquest 2 but it sold better because it played a lot better and looked a lot better (because Blizzard had a better art team); and no game on the Nintendo DS looks as good as Quake 4 or Doom 3 but the Nintendo DS has several games that are far more unique and interesting.

    What we do know is that the Nintendo Revolution will be more powerful than the Gamecube, on a standard TV will have graphics which will look as good as anything the XBox 360 and PS3 will have, and will be really easy to develop for.