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RFID Cookware

HaggiZ writes "Vitacraft are claiming to have what they call RFIQin Robotic Cookware (unfortunate name). It's basically pots and pans that you can place RFID cooking cards in the handle with. The communicate with the induction stove 16 times a second to adjust the cooking when required. Neat idea, although I'm not sure anything I cook needs to have it's temperature reviewed or adjusted every 0.06 of a second." For all the evil uses of RFID that have been floated over the years, it's nice to see that someone is going to finally make it so I stop burning my lunch.

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  1. This being Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I assumed it was for cooking RFID to kill it. Just like if I saw "RFID Aluminum hat" here, I'd assume it was to block it, not use it to monitor head heat.

  2. It's Linge'RFIQin good! by pieterh · · Score: 3, Funny

    One more step to being able to cook a meal without leaving the desk.

    1. Re:It's Linge'RFIQin good! by John.P.Jones · · Score: 2, Funny

      All I need is more negative feedback on my cooking... I get plenty of that already.

  3. Grammar Police to the rescue by __aatskl8715 · · Score: 4, Informative

    For the millionth time, it's = contraction of 'it is'. its=posessive of it.

  4. ummm... by heatdeath · · Score: 4, Funny

    it's nice to see that someone is going to finally make it so I stop burning my lunch.

    Well, no, it'll just help regulate the temperature more accurately. It's still up to you to remember to stop playing doom 3 and go rescue your omlette from becoming a black crunchy lump.

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    1. Re:ummm... by Ethan+Allison · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's still up to you to remember to stop playing doom 3 and go rescue your omlette from becoming a black crunchy lump.

      No, it'll tell when it's done and turn off the heat, right?

    2. Re:ummm... by SEWilco · · Score: 2, Interesting
      No, if the food comes with a cooking-chip then the stove should cook it and turn off the heat when it is done. Other than choosing food which does not say "stir often" you'll just have to keep the volume of your speakers turned down low enough so you can hear the stove beeping when it is done. Making a stovetop stirring robot is left as an exercise for the reader.

      I need an RFID-active oven or a pan on which a pizza can fit. And a pizza chip which knows how to tell the stovetop or the oven how to cook it.

    3. Re:ummm... by Fatal67 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, the obvious use for this would be int he modern kitchen where you can pull up the recipe and cooking instructions from a LCD in the wall / countertop / whatever. The HKPC (home kitchen PC)(TM) would communicate with the pots and pans and trigger an alert so you know what pot to use. The LCD mounted on the pot handle would display the name of the ingredient and how much you are supposed to put in it.

      The Pot(TM) and The Stove(TM) are in constant communication to control tempatures and times. Since they are in communication with the rest of The Meal(TM) also, they know when to slow it down so that the whole meal finishes at the same time.

      I am not sure this setup would have saved me from the day I had to call my mother and ask her how to use the electric can-opener because my wife was not home. It will allow just about anyone to cook more than your standard ramen noodles and ravioli.

    4. Re:ummm... by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well... It could tell Doom and then all the monsters could laugh at you when it does burn. (Which would be nothing compared to RFID tags in your laundry and a reader in your washing machine. "Haha! Look he put red in with white again! Die pink boy! *BAP*BAP*BAP*!")

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  5. Microwave... by eosp · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wouldn't you melt the chip? It _is_ metal, after all. (I learned the hard way with a Pop-Tart wrapper.)

  6. Wrong target market. by khasim · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The people who would cook by plugging a card into a pot would not be using a pot in the first place. They'd be using a microwave.

    The people who cook with pots and pans already know how to cook so they won't spend money on this. Gas stoves are much better for cooking anyway.

    Which leaves the only market being people with too much money, a love for new toys and no culinary skills.

    1. Re:Wrong target market. by NoseBag · · Score: 2, Informative

      Which leaves the only market being people with too much money, a love for new toys and no culinary skills. ...which explains why it's on /., I guess.

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    2. Re:Wrong target market. by jandrese · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I can see this being something of a safety feature too, if you have the "greasy food" item in your pan, it won't let the temperature exceed the flashpoint of the oil you're using (minus some for contaimination) and you'll never have an oil fire again.

      I have to admit though, this seems like gadetry overkill for even me, and I'm a hardcore geek.

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  7. Taco by truthsearch · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's nice to see that someone is going to finally make it so I stop burning my lunch.

    Scary thought for someone named after a food...

  8. Nice by kryten_nl · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nice, now the industrial complex will know if I like my eggs baked or boiled.

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  9. This is part of the RealPlate act by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Which insures the identity of your cookware and that only legal US plates are used and that taxes are paid. The RealPlate act will insure that your china is not made in China and that only US knifes and forks labor to cut your meat.

  10. Close, but not close enough by Brento · · Score: 3, Funny

    The next thing would be pantry integration. I'd like to pick out a stack of recipe cards, drop them into a pile, and have the system figure out what I need to buy versus what I've already got - especially since it could link with RFID tags of the stuff in my cupboard. Granted, it won't know which items are full and which are empty, so it won't know if I've got enough vegetable oil for the particular recipe, but it can always print out a list of exceptions that I could investigate.

    Then, I need it to integrate with my wine cellar, so it can see whether I've got an appopriately matching wine for each of the recipes.

    And it'd obviously have an internet connection, so it could check prices on each of the ingredients. I could put in my work address and my girlfriend's work address, and it could balance out the list and prices so it could SMS me (or her, depending on the shop) right before I leave work.

    Ha! This is Slashdot! Who am I kidding? I don't have a girlfriend, a wine cellar OR a job! Much less RFID cookware, bwahaha. Now pass me that pizza delivery menu.

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  11. I prefer "Grammar Nazi." by Armadni+General · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But seriously, if that's the only mistake you were able to find, you're not fit to call yourself Grammar Anything.

  12. RFID??? by dnoyeb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This has nothing to do with RFID really. RFID is just an ID. This is a nice temperature monitoring device. I have see other wireless units for sale but none built into the Pot like this.

    Its a clever idea that I can see being used for testing out cooking techniques. However, using the term RFID is just to hype the produce as it really is not getting that much out of the RFID technology.

  13. But then again... by Hakubi_Washu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A stove that communicates with the pots via RFID has enough micro-electronics inside to contain a clock, maybe a scheduler even! Mom can place the pan there, it'll heat up in time and signal you via WLAN, Bluetooth or SMS, so you know when food is ready! What a pointless waste...

  14. The grand plan by peektwice · · Score: 2, Funny

    1: Come up with crappy inductive heating cookware/stove combo. 2: ??? 3: Make liberal use of the term RFID in marketing hype 4: Post slashvertisement 5: Profit!

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  15. Good for Gourmet Cooks by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Even temperatures would benefit gourmet cooks more than inattentive college students trying not to burn their mac and cheese. Precise cooking temperatures without large swings command premium dollars.

    Just check out this for the extremes people will go to for this kind of control.

  16. Chocolate (and other candies) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Chocolate, candies, and sauces come to mind. Especially chocolate.

    Cocao butter in chocolate melts around 90F. Ideal melting temperature is between 40-45C (104-113F). Above that (45C, 115F), the chocolate scorches.

    For tempering (the shiny coatings), you melt it at around 110F, cool it to 79-80F, and then warm it back to 90F. Automating it is very handy.

    Candies (and related sauces) are very temperature sensitive. Sugar melts at 146C (367F). Just right and you get caramel. Just wrong and you get carbon.

  17. English by quokkapox · · Score: 2, Funny
    It's basically pots and pans that you can place RFID cooking cards in the handle with.

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  18. Re:Here's what's really going on: by Avumede · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, cast iron has wonderfully even heating, better than almost anything else out there. However, because of it's poor conductivity, you have to let it sit on the stove for a bit for the temperature to even out.

    One of the best restaurants in the world, The French Laundry, uses induction stoves instead of gas stoves.

  19. Apparently you don't know much about induction by colin_young · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Saying that "gas is better for cooking" is only true if you're talking about traditional electric cooktops. Induction is superior to gas. See http://inductioncooking.wikispaces.com/AboutInduct ion (disclaimer: I maintain that website, although the information is collected from various sources).

    That said, I don't see a lot of use for a pre-programmed cooking routine. It will only work when you can guarantee the consistency of your ingredients (making caramel or deep frying come to mind, but there are already cooktops that can maintain a set temperature +/-5C).

    1. Re:Apparently you don't know much about induction by shawb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      To take the thought further, the only place I could see this being really useful is in pre-packaged heat and serve style food. Just embed another chip in the packaging which contains the instructions for heating. Waving the chip by the stove's RFID scanner will program the cooking cycle, with the pots measuring temperature to make sure everything's going right. Stirring would be sort of a problem, unless you incorporated some sort of inductive stirring similar to some chemlab hotplates. Just coat the magnet in some high quality porcelain or something so it washes off easilly.

      There are a couple other uses with fresh ingredients, such as whisking eggs over a flame for a mother sauce and making sure it doesn't get warm enough to scramble, melting chocolate, making custards, controling temperature for a beurre blanc, making custards, etc. But for actually cooking most main courses I'd imagine the good old giant gas burner and a trained set of eyes and ears would go a lot farther (such as gauging temperature by the sizzle when cooking steak, and using the good old fashined poke test to gauge doneness: not using a fork, but simply pressing down with your tongs or even finger and feeling the resistance.)

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  20. Better idea: build one for a microwave oven by Animats · · Score: 2, Insightful
    A more useful idea would be a wireless temperature probe that worked in, and with, a microwave oven. Then, when you're cooking something thick, like a chicken breast, the oven could sense interior temperature. Traditional ovens have had this since the 1950s, but microwave ovens usually have not.

    There would certainly be no problem powering the thing; there's plenty of RF power in there. Interference could be overcome by programming the oven to shut off for a few milliseconds every second, during which period the probe would send a temp reading.

  21. From a geek who cooks by Loundry · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I visited the website, and I think this is marketing. The most important measurement of temperature in cooking food is the internal temperature of high-mass items such as steaks. The temperature reading which is important is the innermost part of the thickest steak in the pan. How is an RFID tag in the pan going to measure that? Answer: it isn't. Only a thermocouple probe can cut that job, which is why I have two different thermocouples in my kitchen that I use almost every time I cook.

    Another part of the website reads: "Prohibits use of wrong pans with incompatible recipes." Excuse you, Vita Craft Corporation, but I don't need you to tell me how to use my own pans. Sometimes I cook on the outside of my cast iron skillets.

    I think this has nothing to do with improving the way that humans prepare food and everything to do with using a new technology to sell more cookware. If you want to become a better cook, then, by god, invest the money in some good cookware, take some cooking classes with people you like, watch some good tv shows, and, by all means, don't be afraid to try things and have fun doing it. If anything, it's an excuse to become more social. If you invite 6 people over, then you're going to be inspired to try and make something that impresses and feeds your loved ones.

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