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Disney Buys Pixar

BlueDjinn writes to tell us that it appears a great deal of speculation over Disney's buyout of Pixar Animation Studios is in fact true. From the article: "[Pixar] is set to meet tomorrow to approve the company's $7bn (£3.9bn) takeover by Disney. The all-share deal will make Steve Jobs, the chief executive of Apple, around $3.5bn and the single largest shareholder in Disney. Jobs created Pixar in 1986 when he paid $10m for the computer animations division of Lucasfilm, owned by Star Wars creator George Lucas."

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  1. Good luck to Steve J... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Nobody deserves a few billion bucks more than he does, the way I figure it. If he manages to pull Disney out of their spiral of mediocrity, he'll have earned every penny...

    1. Re:Good luck to Steve J... by ettlz · · Score: 5, Funny
      If he manages to pull Disney out of their spiral of mediocrity, he'll have earned every penny...

      Yes, because being the owner of the world's largest collection of turtle necks is an expensive hobby.

    2. Re:Good luck to Steve J... by jcr · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If it looks like Disney's paying attention to what the Pixar people tell them, then I'll be buying Disney shares this summer. The real key for Disney Animation is John Lasseter. If they put him in charge, expect great movies.

      As for the business side of things, I hope this means we'll see ALL of the Disney archives available on line. I'll pay two bucks for Steamboat Willie on my iPod, and there's a whole lot of other classics I'd love to see again.

      -jcr

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    3. Re:Good luck to Steve J... by iphayd · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not really. I have five, and my collection is considered the second largest.

  2. this sucks by Hank+Chinaski · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now we will see Nemo 2, Nemo 3 (dvd only release) and a Nemo tv series, with each one getting a little crappier. Same for all other Pixar films.

    Disney will milk the IP till the cow dies and will probably not fund development of new IP.

    1) Buy Pixar
    2) Milk IP
    3) Short-time profit

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    1. Re:this sucks by Hope+Thelps · · Score: 5, Interesting

      As Jobs is still the largest stockholder of the company, how many changes will really take place?

      Unless I've totally misread the story, Disney will now be the sole owner of Pixar. Jobs will now (not still) be the single largest shareholder in Disney. That doesn't mean that he necessarily has the power to change its entrenched culture. I doubt he has anything like enough of a shreholding to replace the existing management, or to plausibly theaten to.

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    2. Re:this sucks by Voltageaav · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Reguardless, he'll still have clout, and there's been talk of him being put on the board of Directors. http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/jan200 6/nf20060120_2325_db016.htm?campaign_id=rss_daily

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    3. Re:this sucks by jeremymh · · Score: 5, Informative

      Disney already owned the rights to sequels to all of pixars' movies - they are already working on toy story 3 and if you asked me yesterday I would have not doubted that they would do similar with the rest of pixars top films.

      If anything, this could be good news as disney may not try to make the sequels themselves now that the relationship is "ok" with pixar again.

    4. Re:this sucks by tverbeek · · Score: 5, Informative
      Now that Steve Jobs is the Majority Shareholder

      "largest single shareholder" != "majority shareholder"

      If my math is right, Jobs will own about 7% of the company. That happens to be more than any other one person owns, but it's way short of a majority.

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    5. Re:this sucks by grahamlee · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What this *does* mean is that Pixar will make any sequels to Toy Story et al, rather than Disney trying to do it with some crappy in-house team. The terms of the contract for Pixar's first five movies was that Disney had the rights to the characters and any spinoffs, exclusively. That's still true, but now they can guarantee on Pixar being on board to make said spinoffs. Oh, and Cars might finally get released ;-)
      In other thoughts; does this sound like something we've seen before? Small Steve-owned company gets bought for vastly more than its market value by big failing company, Steve gets put in charge of big failing company, big failing company becomes big meteoric success company? Does the word NeXT spring to mind for anyone else?

    6. Re:this sucks by tverbeek · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, a "simple majority" is greater than 50%. Having a larger percentage than anyone else (but still less than 50%) is called a "plurality". There is no commonly accepted use of the word "majority" that would refer to 7%.

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  3. Lamp by QBasicer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hopefully they won't do away with that Pixar lamp, I kind liked the little guy.

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    1. Re:Lamp by Shag · · Score: 5, Funny

      Luxo Jr? He'll survive. But they'll have to alter his image a little bit, so they can make a costume for someone to wear around Disneyworld.

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  4. my crystall ball... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...tells me that pixar is for sale in 10 years for 10m.

    on a sidenote, what happens to renderman?

  5. Might be OK by nighty5 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As slashdot sees Disney as mostly evil, it should be noted that most of the sceptical activities of Disney can be attributed to one man: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Eisner.

    I have a good feeling about the new CEO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Iger

    Read up on these completely different management styles and then take a look at Disney again. Iger was responsible for talks to continue with Pixar, so its no suprise that it might lead to this.

    1. Re:Might be OK by vjmurphy · · Score: 5, Funny

      "...yeah, but how does Walt Disney's cyrogenically frozen head feel about the merger?"

      Initially, I suspect he'll be cold to the idea, but I think that will thaw after a while.

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  6. the parallels are interesting by eobanb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The parallels here are almost amusingly similar to when Apple bought NeXT, ten years ago. Because so much of NeXT's advanced technology essentially displaced Apple's own struggling and dated codebase for the Mac OS to become Mac OS X, and Steve Jobs' own idea of a trimmed and stylish product line replaced the beige box Power Mac (insert four-digit number here), many industry analysts joked that 'NeXT had bought Apple for negative $400 million.'

    Look at what's happening now! Like NeXT, one of Steve's projects, was bought by Apple, and its technology incorporated into the company to revamp its product line, Pixar, again a project of Steve, may very well save Disney. For the purists that either hate to see Disney's long-lived traditional animation replaced by computer 3D rendering, or fear that Disney will mishandle Pixar's talent and resources and bring an unfortunate end to the latter studio's remarkably successful run of films, consider two facts: since this isn't a hostile takeover, clearly the folks in charge at Pixar, Steve Jobs included, believe that this will be as good for Pixar as it will be for Disney. They wouldn't be doing this if they thought that Disney was going to ruin them. Also consider now that Steve Jobs is the largest shareholder at Disney. That really carries some weight. Steve has a reputation for getting what he wants, and I also don't doubt that he made this deal without knowing he would have a significant say in Disney's direction.

    So really, guys, calm down! Just imagine the headline read, 'Pixar buys Disney for -$7 billion.'

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  7. In other news... by TheOtherAgentM · · Score: 5, Funny

    Steve Jobs will begin designing rides at Disneyland. You know there will be an acid trip ride, something Alice and Wonderland style. I can't wait.

  8. Pixar and Disney by walnut_tree · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is quite a development! I suspect that Pixar will continue to operate (largely) autonomously, but there will undoubtedly be a good deal of knowledge sharing between Disney and Pixar. John Lasseter has often expressed his admiration for Disney's animators and their pioneering role in developing the medium. While there might seem to be a lot of enmity between the two companies, I suspect there's also a lot of mutual respect between the artists at both studios.

    People may not like the management decisions made by Disney (which have often dictated the direction of their films) but the company still employs a great many talented artists. And of course, Pixar continues to benefit from Disney's considerable marketing muscle - few other companies know how to so thoroughly milk their products for every cent they can get (and I don't say that as praise).

  9. Disney empire by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Keep in mind that the Disney empire also includes ABC, ESPN, the go.com network, as well as a bunch of movie studio (Touchstone, Miramax, Dimension) and record company imprints. Several of these operate somewhat autonomously, but Jobs will have some say in things as the single largest shareholder in Disney. Gates wants to control the living room. Jobs will control the living room.

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  10. Re:Ok, what happens to Renderman now? by jcr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I should say that the golden age of CG movies are now over.

    That's a bit melodramatic, don't you think?

    Now come the crap movies...the "me too" movies.

    They're already here.. Didn't you hear about "Antz", the knock-off of "A Bug's Life"?

    CGI is new tool. Some great movies will be made with it, and a probably a lot of crap, too. Take a look at some of the lesser movies that were being made at the same time as Citizen Kane. Did they keep Orson Wells from making his masterpiece?

    -jcr

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  11. MOD PARENT +INF INSIGHTFUL! by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If it weren't for the assholes at Disney (and the *AA), you'd already be able to have Steamboat Willie on your iPod, for free!

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  12. Re:the big question by Jacob+Moogberg · · Score: 5, Informative

    Steve Jobs has little to no creative input concerning Pixar: John Lasseter is in charge. The last time Jobs tried to interfere with the filmmakers choices was just after the first private screening of a finished "Toy Story". Jobs hated the score by Randy Newman and wanted to replace it. Lasseter and the other guys stood by the Newman score and songs, which brought "Toy Story" an Oscar nomination and Newman four additional scores for Pixar. Jobs has an office at Pixar but he's never there. A documentary about the old Pixar headquarters around the "Monsters Inc." release (2001) showed an empty office with just a desk and a PC, not a Mac. Lasseter even jokes about the room, the least crowded area at Pixar. As a sidenote, this footage about the office could be seen on videos part of the original EPK: the "Monsters, Inc." DVD includes the same documentary but the footage is missing. (The explanation for the PC is that Jobs, after his return to Apple, didn't use a Mac running Mac OS 8 or 9 for himself. He still had a PC running OpenStep instead. When Mac OS X became the system of choice, he switched to the Mac.) On the other hand, Jobs plays the main part concerning business deals with Disney and other partners (Intel for the rendering part, for instance) and his input has been more than valuable to Pixar. Jobs and Pixar both run the company. If a deal is closed with Disney, Lasseter must be a part of it, because Pixar wouldn't be Pixar without him. So, I guess a term of the deal would be to grant Lasseter artistic direction of the whole departmetn. Else, there's no guarantee that Pixar future projects won't suck as much as most of Disney releases.

  13. Too much focus on Jobs by namekuseijin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think much of the success of Pixar is due to Steve Jobs.

    Rather, the main man over there is John Lasseter, the legendary animator directly responsible for some of the companies most memorable movies. Would Pixar be anywhere today wasn't it for the brilliant movies?

    Jobs is just this one guy who sees ahead better than most and invest in people who can make it happen, like Lasseter or Wozniak...

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    1. Re:Too much focus on Jobs by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is very true. John Lassetter, Ed Catmull, Eben Otsbey, Alvy Ray Smith, David DiFrancesco, Tom Duff, Malcolm Blanchard and George Lucas were Pixars real pioneers.

      They're the ones who deserve credit for Pixar's success. These guys gave us the Zbuffer, Texture mapping, and so much more. Almost everything we know today... these guys had a hand in. Their artistic vision in a fledgling technical realm is also unique to them thanks to John Lassetter, and George Lucas.

      You have to realize that from the start... Pixar were pioneers. It's easy to pass the name Pixar around as a company these days... "Disney buys Pixar... blah blah blah"

      But Pixar deserves to be its own entity as Disney once was.

      I wish Lucas had not sold Pixar... But then again i'm glad Jobs was there to buy it up. I'm glad Lassetter was able to keep Jobs from sticking his maniacal self into the Pixar day to day.

      Hopefully with Jobs being a major share holder in Disney, he can keep DISNEY from screwing up Pixar. John Lassetter (a former disney animator) has a challenge on his hands... and its the same old challenge he's had for sometime now. And that is to keep the suits out of his fun world. If you seen his studio (And i have friends that work there) you will be reminded of old disney. Where artists play, create, and have fun. It's not a corperate labarynth of cubicals. It's a kindergarten, as it should be.

      As a 3d animator myself... the challenge has always been about staying young and vibrant, full of ideas and having fun while keeping the suits out of your day to day because they dont understand the culture.

      Today's Disney is not the old Disney. I have family members who work for Disney broadcasting in fairly high positions and its a nightmare in many respects. Disney has all but destroyed their 2d artist division that made Disney... well Disney.

      Disney is a buisness... as much as you can say Pixar is a buisness... It's really not run like a buisness. Actually I should say that Pixar is run how a buisness should be run because it takes care of its employees because Pixar is its employees.

      Disney doesnt look at the world this way. Disney is its companies not its employees. Disney is not its 2d animation anymore. Disney is its "brands". Look at teh falling out of Miramax (the Wiensteins) and Disney. Miramax could very well be considered a film making company that had a mission to deliver a certain quality film, unique to itself. Very much like Pixar.

      Anyways... The point is: Pixar will hopefully be untouched. Jobs may be able to help continue the Pixar "island" in the corperate world. I wrote ealier on slashdot about how Jobs and Lassetter really have different mindsets and John wants to keep Pixar intact and run under his own idea of how the pixar culture should be.

      I fear that Disney will take over Pixar and change it. Disney is buying Pixar because of the BRAND name that is Pixar because Disney cant compete in the 3d animation realm. Dont think for one moment, that if Disney had the chance... they would kill off the Pixar name and Pixar would become "Disney Animation"

      Thats what we all fear the most. Something unique, beautiful and creative being lost in the typical corperate world of greed.

      I hope John, Ed, Alvy and whoever still remains at pixar from the old founders... gets a good stake in disney as well. I fear that they do not.

      This is how the corperate world treats Pioneers.

  14. Steve Jobs is by Centurix · · Score: 5, Funny

    Loaded. In his house is a giant walk in wardrobe with a long line of turtle-neck sweaters, you fight through it all and at the back is a snow filled landscape where iPods grow on trees.

    You see Steve Wozniak talking to a CGI lion on the technical production of blue boxes. In the background is a giant Intel factory, where little orange men are packing new iMacs into crates marked Nigeria...

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  15. Re:Ok, what happens to Renderman now? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Funny

    CGI is new tool. Some great movies will be made with it

    Sure, I can see them now "Perl of the Orient" "Firewall Apache" and the classic "Slashdotted: As the Sun Went Down"

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  16. Re:Jobs doesn't make $3.5bn by greginnj · · Score: 5, Informative

    The way deals of this size are accomplished is a 'stock swap'. For simplicity's sake, let's say that the deal goes down at the market price of Pixar's shares on the day of the deal. Before the deal, you own $10,000 of Pixar; after the deal, you own $10,000 of (Pixar + Disney). Similarly, someone who had $10,000 of Disney prior to the deal would have $10,000 of (Pixar + Disney).

    The gory details are that Disney writes new shares equivalent in value to the value it's assigned to the acquisition of Pixar, and 'swaps' those Disney shares for Pixar shares (effectively removing them from the market). The value of Pixar is added to the value of Disney (that's the +$7bn), but no new value is created. All Pixar shareholders are now (Disney + Pixar) shareholders; they have a same-value piece of a larger pie. Their slice is 'thinner' -- a smaller percentage; Jobs goes from 50% of Pixar to 7% of (Disney + Pixar). Similarly for Disney shareholders, but not as big of a percentage drop since Disney's valuation prior to the deal was closer to that of the combined entity.

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  17. It is a majority... by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny

    for particularly large values of 7.

  18. Re:bye-bye Minnie by daeley · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does this mean that Disney cartoons will only have one mouse?

    No, they'll still have many mice, but Mickey's red shorts will only have one button. ;)

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  19. Re:Super Q by vonahsen · · Score: 5, Funny

    And Jobs did it with one thing: Quality. And Marketing. Ok, two things.

    and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....

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