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An Insider's Take on Steve Jobs
Jerry Rivers writes "Business Week has an interesting, if short, interview with Edgar Woolard Jr., the man who brought Jobs back to Apple in the dark days of 1996. "Old money" Woolard offers some interesting insights into the man behind the iMac and the iPod, including his take on Jobs' 'five special characteristics' that make him the success that he is."
People have been talking for years about how Steve "schemed" to replace Amelio. Woolard makes it very clear what really happened.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Yeah. This damn guy knows exactly how to make money. When every company was making computers, he decided to produce art and he still made money. How many CEOs would work for nothing just to prove that they aren't there for the money? Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer wouldn't - that's for sure.
I'd heard this before, too. I thought this must be corp. myth, similar to the way Caesar refused to be emperor... each time he refused, he was less resistive to the idea.
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Hey - Isn't it time for that G5 icon to change? :)
So, Bill Gates dies, and goes to Heaven, and he meets up with Saint Peter, and says "Hey, it's Bill, I'm just going to go on in." And Saint Peter says, "Sorry Bill, everyone is equal here. You need to stand in line like everyone else."
Begrudgingly, Bill Gates walks to the end of the enormous line, but as he's waiting to get into Heaven, a limo drives up, and there in the limo is Steve Jobs! Now, Bill Gates is furious, so he walks up to Saint Peter and complains, "Hey! I thought you said everyone was equal here! But, I just saw Steve Jobs, yeah, Steve Jobs roll with a limo!"
Saint Peter laughs, and responds, "Oh no, that wasn't Steve Jobs. That was God, he only thinks he's Steve Jobs."
I am unamerican, and proud of it!
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how much bigger his manhood is over Steve Jobs
"If Steve has a good relationship with you, there's nobody better in the world to work with. He trusts you, and he listens, and he bounces his ideas off you. But if he doesn't trust you, it doesn't work."
I thought he was talking about Balmer but it says ideas, not chairs.
From the article...
1. Incredibly creative and has great vision.
2. Absolute perfectionist.
3. Great ability to attract outstanding people to work with him.
4. If he respects you, he will interact with you and modify his ideas
5. The damn guy knows how to make money!
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Need I say more... (Follow the links, Luke! ;-))
ok, this has nothing to do with jobs, but... buisnessweek isn't the most realiable and/or good place ever.
#3 ???
#4 Profit!
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He doesn't reveal a single thing about what he's working on. Anyone who leaks information gets killed. When the new gadget is revealed, the audience cheers because it's nothing like anyone expected. Every living thing on Earth loves Steve Jobless.
Then of course, there are the other visionaries. When the other guys design products in secrecy they're the devil for not involving anyone else. They're selfish bastards for not allowing anyone else to copy their idea.
The more I read about him, the more I think perhaps the negative comments are sour grapes.
I used to think that Steve Jobs and Bill Gates where similar people. I've come to the conclusion that Steve Jobs is who Bill Gates wishes he was. Bill Gates has repeatedly said he wanted a computer in every home, etc.
But he failed to have a computer designed that DESERVED to be in every home. (and, in many ways, an OS that deserves to be on any computer...) He build an empire that could almost force it to be true, but that is hardly the same thing.
A lot of people seem to be unimpressed with the current crop of new Intel based Macs. I think Apples implementation of it is almost perfect.
Apple could have chosen to be bold, all the new machines based on the Intel processors could have been completely new designs ascetically. Instead they chose the keep the outwards appearance the same and replace everything inside, and make it function exactly the same as before. (Ok, with a decent improvement in speed.)
Had Apple chosen to be bold, and had the OS failed to deliver the promise of running almost all applications then the whole thing would have been looked upon as a fiasco. Instead they focused on getting the internals right.
I remember having conversations with people years ago about the idea of emulating a PowerPC based Mac on an Intel x86 platform; nobody thought it would been feasible. Even if you got it to work, it would never be fast enough to be useful. But Apple has done it, Rosetta is a stunning achievement and it's integration with the OS is almost seamless.
(yes I tried the PowerPC emulator (PearPC) and was amazed that it worked as well as it did. But that doesn't make it viable for joe-user.
Steve Ballmer is that you? Thrown any chairs lately?
I expect changes in the appearance of future Apple computers will be less and less significant. Apple has spent years and considerable amounts of money getting to what they feel is the ideal computer (shape, look, dimensions, material, etc.).
Bono?
You mean Rep. Mary Bono (R-CA)? She was the driving force behind the 1998 copyright term extension, heavily lobbied for by The Walt Disney Company, whose biggest shareholder is now Steve Jobs.
My life is now complete.
I have been moderated Troll.
ROTFLMAO.
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Aiming for an Offtopic mod to follow up your success?
Oh my god you're stupid! Proucts?
I've been on the Apple campus once. I was sent to do a demo for, IIRC, the Final Cut group in 'the Piano Bar' or room, IIRC. We had a Genelec surround system sent directly to our contact at Apple and I loaded this on a huge cart along with other hardware and my Warr Guitar strapped to my back. We 'booked' the room so we were sure it would be abandoned, including the allocated setup time. So, I come crashing into the room with the cart *KERBLAM* and I see a group of five people talking at a table in the back. Our apple contact says, "We should, uh, get out of here." I shrug and follow him out. He and the other guy leave to go do something and I'm sitting outside the piano room by myself. Moments later four, ashen Apple employees scurry out of the room followed by a scruffy unshaven fellow with torn jeans. He surveys the outside area, and, like a missile locking on to a strong heat signature, zeros in on me and walks towards me, the person who burst in like a herd of buffalo on his private meeting. He holds out his hand and says, "Hi. I'm Steve." I owned a 128K Mac in 1984. Before that, the obligatory Apple //s and what not. What I do today was shaped largely by Apple, and what this person did. Heck, I started writing music by dragging notes onto a screen with a program called MusicWorks - it isn't hyperbole to say my very interest in music started with the Macintosh, and I'm staring Steve Jobs in the face.
Being a fairly eloquent person, I summon up the response: "Hey."
Smooth.
I don't remember if I shook his hand or not. In fact, I really don't remember anything beyond saying 'hey'
It would be cool to see a matrix of the members of the Fortune 500 Boards of Directors. We always hear about who's CEO of this or that corporation, but it's amazing when you hear about who's on the Board.
The thing I'm *most* worried about is that Steve Jobs is to Apple as Edwin Land is to Polaroid. In a nutshell: Polaroid was Land's company through and through. The problem was that after Land died, so did Polaroid, just a lot more slowly.
While I strangely have no such issues with Gates and Microsoft, I'm genuinely concerned that when Steve goes to that great bitbucket in the sky, we really won't have any visionaries left to push the computing/entertainment/whatever world ahead a step.
So if I read you correctly, Bill Gates = Steven Spielberg and Steve Jobs = Stanley Kubrick
Come to think of it...
On one hand you got a guy who made litteraly gallizions of dollars on expensive, mindless blockbusters that everybody and their cousin went to see (Jurassic Park, Raiders etc...) during two decades, and then switched to more "serious" issues (Schindler, Color Purple, Munich).
Doesn't that remind of Bill Gates making tons of cash on Windows, then turning on more serious activities like donating a huge portion of his fortune to charity?
And on the other hand Steve Jobs, the visionary, the perfectionist, the uncompromising, the man who hires people that are willing to top themselves at the risk of total exhaustion?
Read any article on SK and SJ and you well see that the analogy kinda works...
This pattern was set right from the beginning: Copy, clone, buy -- BASIC, DOS, Windows itself. The products they decided to clone were rarely the best of the bunch, so they don't show taste (as Jobs himself famously remarked*); and the company has pursued that trail of mediocrity until today. I don't think there is any category where M$ actually has the best product. All they have is volume, and most of that achieved illegally.
As gsfprez recently said: "You run Windows. I get things done."
* Triumph of the Nerds - "The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste, they have absolutely no taste, and what that means is - I don't mean that in a small way I mean that in a big way. In the sense that they they don't think of original ideas and they don't bring much culture into their product..."
you had me at #!
"Everybody agrees Jobs has vision. My take is that he manipulates and uses people to achieve that vision."
That's called "leadership".
--R.J.
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I think the synergies will escalate dramatically.
made me throw up a little.
Warning: Apple/Nintendo fangirl. Likes her electronics cute & cuddly. May be rabid.
No, but I see I have that anyway. :-)
Perhaps someone would like to waste another mod point?
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1. Incredibly creative and has great vision.
Failed engineer.
2. Absolute perfectionist.
Autistic.
3. Great ability to attract outstanding people to work with him.
Unlike retail, office or construction work, engineers typically enjoy being over-stressed. This isn't Jobs strength, it's a flaw of everyone else around him. You don't get a lot of points for being the chest-beating alpha male (Jobs) at the asylum (Apple).
4. If he respects you, he will interact with you and modify his ideas
That's because none of his ideas are realistic.
5. The damn guy knows how to make money!
Steve Jobs reminds me a lot of Philip Greenspun of ArsDigita fame. You could say many of these things about Philip too...vision, authority, culture, etc. But what do Phil Greenspun, Steve Jobs, and Bill Gates all have in common?
* All 3 tried to program a computer.
* All 3 failed.
* Then they met legions of nerds to do the work for them.
Yep. And you should realize that like most troll moderations, it's wrong. A troll post is an attempt to deceive people through eagerness or clever fact-altering. The Oprah book club scandal A Million Little Pieces is a perfect example of a troll. Your post was a repeat of a lame joke enjoyed by trolls, which itself is not a troll, but simply "-1 Redundant" or even "+1 Funny." After all, Funny is completely subjective and you can riff Simpsons all day long and get +1 Funny's every step of the way.
The Troll moderation itself is a bit of a joke, because if moderators could properly discern a troll, then the trolls wouldn't have owned Slashdot for four straight years. For most of Slashdot's history since T(HG)SB (April 2002), 70% of posts were trolls and 20% of stories themselves were trolls (rough estimate). You can tell the heyday of trolling is over because comments on stories are back down to ~200 like they were in 1999-2000.
Jobs still gets $1 salary at Apple. It's in the annual 10-K report with the SEC.
I think he gets the same at Pixar.
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Thank you for taking the time to explain.
I was trying for funny, in my original post.
I just had to laugh about it. In thinking
about it after, I suppose there might be
some who might have seen it as a dig.
What means "T(HG)SB"? I've been reading for a
while, but I am still pretty clueless about
some things.
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937 comments and this is your first troll moderation? Maybe you are just a failed troll who can't get bites because all your buddies are gone.
Yah I don't mind explaining because you are not the only person who reads Slashdot. Surprise! There are other people here!
Or maybe hardly anyone reads what I post. :-)
And that explains why I think I am the only one here!
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