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Putting Star Wars to the MythBusters Test

DangerTenor writes "The cast of the show MythBusters chat about their pasts with ILM, talk about some Star Wars myths (Can you avoid freezing to death in a blizzard overnight by gutting a dead animal like a tauntaun and getting into its carcass?) and why R2-D2 is the perfect sidekick." Not as cool as our interview, but pretty neat.

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  1. That Tauntaun thing... by cnelzie · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...wasn't how they survived the entire evening. It was just to keep Luke warm while Han built the shelter... Geeze.

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    1. Re:That Tauntaun thing... by IAAP · · Score: 5, Funny
      Afterall there's no chance they'll kill some animal in some cold place and put one of their interns in it over night. That would be pretty cruel taking into account that it's just done "to be sure"...

      You mean would be cruel to the animal. The intern, on the other hand, well, they're interns!

    2. Re:That Tauntaun thing... by Fishstick · · Score: 3, Informative

      >those are just interns

      They've elevated the others on the show this season. They used to be referred to as "the build team" or "Myth-terns", but they get billing as "MythBusters" the same as Adam and Jamie this season.

      I don't think you're going to get Kari to crawl inside an animal carcas (she's a veggie). She could hardly stand it when they brought back a pig neck/spine with meat still on it to use inside a ballistics gel model.

      The other thing is they seem to do is go out of their way to get animals that have died on the farm of "natural causes" as opposed to going to a slaughterhouse and carting away a freshly-killed carcass. I kind of doubt they are going to go get a horse or cow and kill it for a myth like this.

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    3. Re:That Tauntaun thing... by ArsonSmith · · Score: 5, Informative

      As someone who grew up hunting and skinned many a deer and elk I can say that the insides will stay rather warm for quite some time. While bow hunting you often have to track an animal the next morning because a bow wont kill it right away. While I think Hoth was suppose to be something like -60 or more I know that an Elk will hold heat for well over 12 hours in 0-10degree weather.

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    4. Re:That Tauntaun thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "While bow hunting you often have to track an animal the next morning because a bow wont kill it right away.

      That's why experienced hunters let the ARROW do the killing.

  2. The Real Myth by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does talking backward smarter make you sound? Hmmmmm?

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    1. Re:The Real Myth by haluness · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Just an interesting point, Yoda's form of speech actually belongs to a class of languages termed OSV (Object Subject Verb) whereas English is VSO (Verb Subject Object).

      In fact there are real human languages that have OSV order.

      More info at ahref=http://www.akerbeltz.org/beagangaidhlig/gram ar/grammar_VSO.htmrel=url2html-20202http://www.ake rbeltz.org/beagangaidhlig/gramar/grammar_VSO.htm> and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_order

    2. Re:The Real Myth by MutantHamster · · Score: 5, Informative
      "English is VSO (Verb Subject Object)."

      No, is not English VSO. Is English SVO. Sound VSO languages retarded.

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    3. Re:The Real Myth by TekPolitik · · Score: 3, Informative
      Does talking backward smarter make you sound? Hmmmmm?

      As somebody else mentioned already, some languages have the word ordering Yoda uses. Yoda is based on a blend of Japanese mystics, Samurai and martial-arts masters. Guess what word order is used in Japanese.

  3. Deathstar by damonlab · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does the Deathstar run Linux?

    1. Re:Deathstar by Frequency+Domain · · Score: 5, Funny
      Does the Deathstar run Linux?
      No, but if the rebels had only had an Apple laptop they could have uploaded a virus and bypassed that whole shoot down the cooling vent thing.
    2. Re:Deathstar by goldenorfe · · Score: 5, Funny

      The death star runs Gentoo, which is why they were behind schedule building it.

    3. Re:Deathstar by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      I always thought it ran VMS.

      I don't have a good reason. It just seems like that's what the Empire would use.

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  4. Water cores by slavemowgli · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Could you pilot a submarine through a planet's core?

    "If it were possible to have a water core at the center of a planet, then perhaps, but the pressures would be significant," Imahara explains. "That would have to be some submarine."

    "Would the inside of a planet be water?" Savage asks. "I don't think so."

    Indeed, the pressure *would* be significant, and the water would either be in a solid or supercritical liquid phase - it'd be pretty unlikely that you'd find it possible to drive a submarine through it in either case, though, even if the submarine itself would be constructed to withstand the pressure and temperature at the core.

    Of course, IANAP, though, so YMMV.

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    1. Re:Water cores by pclminion · · Score: 5, Interesting
      But I thought that solid water (ice) was less dense then the liquid form. Therefore, if you compress water enough, it cannot turn into a solid.

      There are twelve known physical types of ice. Look at the phase diagram carefully. Even at 10,000 gigapascals there are forms of ice. Most of these types are denser than water. What we typically think of as "water ice" is specifically called Ice-1 (there are two subtypes, cubic and hexagonal). Ice-2 through Ice-10 are all denser than water, with Ice-10 being 2.5 times as dense. That's some heavy ice. Ice-11 is less dense than water, but Ice-12 is again denser.

      Our observations of water here on earth are not really representative of all the forms of H2O in nature. On the contrary, a big part of the reason why life is able to exist on this planet is that we are almost exactly at the triple point of water. By the weak anthropic principle, we only observe those forms of water that are conducive to the existence of life.

  5. Re:Starwars and the crew by dr_dank · · Score: 5, Funny

    Practical jokes? I'm thinking the SW angle is an excuse to get Kari into a slave Leia outfit.

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  6. Talk like this, I do by everphilski · · Score: 5, Funny

    because third grade english, pass I did not.

  7. Re:Starwars and the crew by RancidMilk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I kind of like this article on howstuffworks.com, on how light sabers work: http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/lightsaber5.h tm This is the page on practical uses of the light saber around the home.

  8. The only good wars... by truthsearch · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. Contrary to what you've just seen, war is neither glamorous nor fun. There are no winners, only losers. There are no good wars, with the following exceptions: The American Revolution, World War II, and the Star Wars Trilogy. If you'd like to learn more about war, there's lots of books in your local library, many of them with cool, gory pictures." -- Bart Simpson

  9. A 50 footer? by Otter · · Score: 5, Informative
    Could you survive a 50-foot fall into a snow bank like Luke Skywalker did?

    Huh? Jamie Pierre just broke the skiing cliff-drop record with a 245-footer in Grand Targhee. I haven't seen the video yet, but supposedly he didn't even land it cleanly. (The New Zealander who previously held the record hit a 225-footer into slush, landing on his back with a backpack full of foam.)

    C'mon, a 50-footer won't even get you into a movie nowadays unless you throw at least a 720...

  10. The lightsaber myth... by Vexler · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Can a weapon like a lightsaber actually exist?

    Even the most uninformed fan knows that it's not just the light, but it's plasma being shaped into a cylindrical shape approximately 1 meter in length (according to the Episode III novel) that gives the lightsaber its power. (Yes, and the Force, but let me just talk about the saber for the moment...)

    One of the problem has to do with the state of the plasma, often called the fourth state of matter. It is by no means solid, and yet the fact that the lightsaber has a distinct shape when activated and the fact that two lightsabers can clash in a duel mean that there is a solid-like boundary to the blade that is inviolable. On the contrary, often we see the blade cutting through other objects and body parts with frightening ease. (Just ask Count Dooku.)

    Which brings me to another issue: The power required to confine the plasma in a blade-like configuration (be it magnetic or otherwise) may well exceed the power to generate the blade in the first place. It seems almost redundant for a weapon of this type to be built, as the builder can control and direct the flow of plasma with a device no more than 30 centimeters in length. As someone else said regarding construction of Dyson Spheres, "If you can build it, you don't need it."

    1. Re:The lightsaber myth... by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 4, Funny
      Can a weapon like a lightsaber actually exist?

      Ah, but of course!

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    2. Re:The lightsaber myth... by radtea · · Score: 4, Funny

      the fact that two lightsabers can clash in a duel mean that there is a solid-like boundary to the blade that is inviolable

      Clearly there is some kind of quantum coherence going on in the plasma that effectively makes each lightsaber a single giant fermion. Then the Pauli exclusion principle keeps any two lightsabers from occupying the same space. This is why the only thing (other than Chuck Norris) that a lightsaber can't cut through is another lightsaber.

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    3. Re:The lightsaber myth... by SETIGuy · · Score: 5, Informative
      Even the most uninformed fan knows that it's not just the light, but it's plasma being shaped into a cylindrical shape approximately 1 meter in length (according to the Episode III novel) that gives the lightsaber its power. (Yes, and the Force, but let me just talk about the saber for the moment...)

      I have a device that is very much like a light saber that uses no power at all. It consists of a thermal electron plasma which is contained by a matrix of positively charged ions. I can't get it to glow like a "light saber" unless I supply a lot of energy to it, but doing so weakens the ion matrix to the point where it might fail to stand up use.

      Electrostatic repulsion and the strength of the ion matrix prevent it from penetrating another saber of similar design, but the same electrostatic repulsion, when focused to specific parts of the blade, is quite adept at slicing through flesh.

      There is a picture of a saber of the type I describe right here.

  11. Re:Sounds like a social occasion by Fallingcow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The tauntaun was already dead.

  12. Don't read if you love Star Wars by Microsift · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm going to ruin it for you... In episode IV, the Storm Troopers set their blasters for stun and fill the room up with blaster energy (it was represented as concentric circles), and capture Princess Leia. Why on Earth wasn't this the default setting? Much is made in the movies about the Jedi's ability to block blaster fire with their light sabers, (and in Vader's case his hand). It seems like the obvious tactic against a Jedi is set for stun, knock the Jedi out, set for kill, kill the Jedi. No muss, no fuss. But they never do this...

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  13. It is easy to drop 50 feet and be fine... by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    assuming you can use The Force.

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  14. Water Phase Diagram by everphilski · · Score: 4, Informative

    Water Phase Diagram

    Note regions VIII-XI. With enough pressure yes, water will solidify. HOWEVER there is a temperature point at which the water will no longer solidify (not shown on this scale although you can see the "liquid dome" is increasing as temperature increases. Eventually if you go far enough to the right there is a point where only vapor exists, regardless of pressure.

    So while GP is correct that pressure will solidify water there is also extreme temperature that will counteract the pressure. One must wonder why water cores don't exist in real life...

  15. Real myth needs busting by squidfood · · Score: 5, Funny
    Given the angle of attack, exit wound, etc., did Han shoot first?

    (Personally I suspect some post-Imperial propagandist doctored the data).

  16. Fifty foot fall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    My dad was in the paratroopers (I was born at Ft Campbell). On one jump, one of his fellow paratrooper's chute didn't open, and neither did the reserve.

    Dad says the fellow fell 2000 feet (divide by three for meters), landed in a muddy, plowed field, and didn't break a single bone! He was in the hospital for his bruises for only 2 days (this was in 1951).

    OTOH my Grandfather worked for Purina, and went four floors down an elevator shaft onto a concrete bottom (roughly fifty feet) in 1959. He lived, but he would have beeen better off if he'd died; he was a complete cripple and severely brain damaged, but he lived. But he didn't land in snow or a plowed, muddy field.

    So yes, it's completely plausable to not only fall fifty feet into a snowdrift, but to get up and ride that funny looking horse.

    -mcgrew

  17. Re: by LehiNephi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    2000 Turbolasers and 2500 laser cannons isn't that much when you consider the size of the deathstar. A sphere with a diameter of 120km (according to Wikipedia) would have a surface area of over 45,000 sq.km. That leaves more than 10 sq. km. per weapon.

    I guess that's why Darth Vader had to send out the TIE fighters...

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  18. Re:nice try, but faulty. by Penguinshit · · Score: 5, Funny


    I find your lack of faith disturbing...

  19. What about hyperspace by gwatt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What about ftl (faster-than-light) travel? I think they might want to ask about that.

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  20. Midichlorians. by MsGeek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No mention of the absolute Worst. Star Wars tech. Ever. I suppose midichlorians are so bad they needn't be dignified with a debunking.

    I nearly walked out on Episode I because of them. Reducing The Force to a symbiotic critter in your bloodstream is just plain wrong. I don't know what kind of crack Lucas was smoking when he came up with that concept. But I suspect it would do permanent brain damage, hence the quality of the Prequel Trilogy.

    Lack of exposure to this substance would explain why Genndy Tartakovsky actually did a good job on the Clone Wars shorts.

    Midichlorians. I hate those guys.

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  21. Actually, if you want to survive a blizzard... by TechieHermit · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...Dig a cave in a snowbank, pack the snow down nice and hard, wrap up in as many blankets as you can, and light candles. The temperature will get up around 40 or 50 and you'll be ok. It's an old trick, but a good trick -- snow is an excellent insulator.

    An alternate technique, if the snow is deep enough, is to dig a circular pit around a tree, down to the base of the tree, and tie a tarp around the top of the hole to keep the wind out. The snowbank trick is better, though, especially because you can pile up your own snowbank, pack it, and tunnel into it. :)

  22. This might take a while by glwtta · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Can laser beams travel so slowly that you can see their progress?

    Can mobs of various primitive, semi-sentient beings repeatedly defeat large imperial armies (presumably with state of the art training and equipment), by throwing random objects at them?

    Can ships exploding in space not only make a lot of noise, but also not annihilate other ships in close proximity?

    Can you really cover the same distance in varying numbers of parallax seconds?

    Can all religion be explained with symbiotic micro-organisms?

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    1. Re:This might take a while by Forbman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Can mobs of various primitive, semi-sentient beings repeatedly defeat large imperial armies (presumably with state of the art training and equipment), by throwing random objects at them?

      Well, if they're motivated enough. Look at how well it's working in Iraq...

  23. Ok.. let's get serious now... by jbuilder · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do ANY of the myths they debunk involve Kari wearing that bronze bikini princess leia wore in Ep 6? If not then I really don't see the point in any further discussion.

    And if any of the discussion DOES involve that bikini for GOD sake please take pictures!

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  24. Re:That Tauntaun thing... how to test it by TechieHermit · · Score: 4, Funny

    BORING! Why don't we do the first round of tests MY way:

    HYPOTHETICAL SATIRICAL SITUATION:

    Lab Technician: "Hello, Mr. Bush, Mr. Cheney, are you ready to participate in the test?"

    Bush: "I dunno. Guess so."

    Cheney: "Get on with it!"

    Lab Tech: Yessss.... Allllrighty, then. Here are your implements, gentlemen..." (Hands each of the men a plastic serrated butterknife and a spork).

    Bush: "What're these for? Is it lunchtime? I like lunchtime."

    Lab Tech: "NOT exactly, although it COULD be. It depends. We'll see how it goes. Ok, gentlemen, in your hands are a plastic picnic knife and spork. Once I leave the room, we'll dial the temperature down to around 50 below, and you'll use your implements to cut open and prepare a large, hairy animal to use as an emergency sleeping bag. We'll open the doors in the morning. Good luck!" (dashes out of the room and slams a door).

    Cheney: "Hey, FUCK YOU! What the hell's going on around here? This was supposed to be a meeting with lobbyists!"

    Bush: "I'm ascared, Mr. Cheney. Somethin's not right around here..."

    Cheney: "Oh, for God's sake, grow a spine already. HEY! LAB NERD! WHAT ARE YOU UP TO UP THERE??"

    Lab Tech (in a glass enclosed observation deck): "Ah! You noticed me! Well, I'm preparing your sleeping bag."

    Cheney: "What the hell are you babbling about?"

    Lab Tech: "Look to your left, gentlemen, I'd like you to meet Mama Jones. She's a 1,000 pound polar bear who has been chased out of her environment by your energy policy. She hasn't been fed in several weeks and we've put her cubs in a room a few hundred yards from here. We took the liberty of spraying you with some of their scent, just to make things more interesting."

    Bush: "Wait; you what?"

    Cheney: "Bullshit! This is nuts. Open the door or I'm going to rip your nuts off and feed them to you!"

    Lab Tech: "That's the spirit! Well, good luck, gentlemen. Ah, here's Mama Jones now."

    Mama Jones: "ROOOOOAOR!"

    Lab Tech (to fellow grad students): "Ok, I've got twenty to one that Cheney shoves Bush at the bear within the first five minutes, do i have any takers? Yes! Apu, for fifty! I can cover that...

  25. Light Sabre Jacuzzi by triclipse · · Score: 4, Funny

    I always wondered why Luke didn't just stick his light sabre in the snow to create a nice, toasty light sabre Jacuzzi.

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  26. Re:Things to know about Chuck Norris: by splatterboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Things to know about Chuck Norris: 1. Chuck Norris' tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried. 2. Chuck Norris does not sleep. He waits. 3. Chuck Norris is currently suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are trademarked names for his left and right legs. 4. The chief export of Chuck Norris is pain. 5. Chuck Norris defines love as the reluctance to murder. If you're still alive, it's because Chuck Norris loves you. 6. Chuck Norris isn't hung like a horse. Horses are hung like Chuck Norris. 7. If you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. 8. Rather than being birthed like a normal child, Chuck Norris instead decided to punch his way out of his mother's womb. 9. There are no disabled people. Only people who have met Chuck Norris. 10. Chuck Norris can win a game of Monopoly without owning any property. 11. There is no theory of evolution, just a list of creatures Chuck Norris allows to live.

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  27. Enough of this. Someone post some Kari Pictures by boot1973 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Thank you