HOWTO, Cook an Egg With Your Cell Phone
xPosiMattx writes "Suzzanna Decantworthy published an article in her Wymsey Weekend column that described how to cook an egg with two cell phones. From the article: "Many students, and other young people, have little in the way of cooking skills but can usually get their hands on a couple of mobile phones. So, this week, we show you how to use two mobile phones to cook an egg which will make a change from phoning out for a pizza.""
1. Preheat oven to 350deg.
2. Oil and flour a 8" pan (or use nonstick).
3. Dial your ex.
4. Place phone in pan.
5. Crack an egg on the phone.
6. Season to taste.
7. Bake at 350 for 20 minutes.
OK, obviously #3 is a problem...
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...but the little foot icon looks astonishingly like an old rotary telephone today.
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6. Phone A will now be talking to Phone B whilst Phone B will be talking to Phone A.
I love urban legend as much as the next guy, but this isn't exactly true. These are cell phones not two-way radios. Phone A will be talking to a cell phone tower, whilst phone B is talking to a cell phone tower, whilst each cell phone tower is talking to the two phones respectively. There is no reason to think that you are forming some sort of ultra powerful death beam between the two phones by placing them in close proximity to one another. Having said that, if I was being attacked by a giant stay puff marshmallow man, I might give this a shot as a last resort.
I feel foolish for asking but...
What's the radio for??
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can't cook an egg with two cell phones. Each phone communicates with a tower, not each other. I even knew that before I read it on boingboing. amazing.
Stop invalid scientific research. Ask your local scientists to feed their lab rats with a phytoestrogen-free chow.
...don't talk on two cell phones simultaneously.
Sigh.... Anyone actually like to find the article. I found this which shows it's a year old. PS. Woot. My first dupe whine. http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/07/boil-an-egg-ins tead-of-your-brain-with-your-cellphones/
Ooo man the floppy drive is broken. No wait. The computer is just upside down.
Plus, the phones try really hard to minimize the amount of energy they use. 2 Watts is peak power consumption. I wouldn't recommend trying this experiment unless you want egg on your face.
Bzzt. Brainiac (an alternative to Mythbusters) tried this with 100 phones, and the phones were literally covering the egg, and they left the egg under there for a while. It definitely didn't cook, and they reported it didn't even get remotely warm either.
Placing large metal objects round the phones until their signal strength meters read 1 bar would be an easy way to max out the power consumption.
However this is obviously BS. Especially as phones all talk to the tower, so using two of them serves no other purpose than halfing the cook time.
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Problem #1. Handheld cellphones do not emit 2W. The old analog handhelds were capped at 700mW and I suspect the digitals emit much less based on the power available to them and the talktime.
Problem #2. Even if you scrounged up some old bagphones with their 3W output power, they still only gives you six watts of power. I don't think that is going to cook an egg in the time claimed.
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Don't ever put two cell phones in your front pant pockets. You might cook your eggs but no one will ever know. And if you have two cell phones in your back pant pockets, your ass will catch on fire and everyone will laugh at you. Life is a cruel master.
For so many reasons:
1) Cell phones are the wrong frequency. They are 800, 900, 1800, or 1900 MHz depending on the service. To make water heat up, you need to be at the frequency water resonates which is 2.4GHz.
2) Cell phones are too low power. A microwave that will cook an egg in a couple of minutes is going to have power expressed in at least the hundreds of watts, and probably will be 1000 watt. Cellphones have output power expressed in the miliwatts, that 1/1000th of a watt. We are literally talking over 5 orders of magnitude difference.
3) Microwaves function because they build standing waves. You find that if you take the frequency of a microwave (printed on the back usually), measure the size of the cavity and run the numbers, it works out that it's of a size such that standing waves build up. Taking a magnetron out of the case makes it work very poorly, despite the power output.
4) Cellphones operate in bursts. They do a burst when they have something to transmit, then fall silent. Saves on batteries. That's not going to cut it for heating, you need continous output.
I'm not sure if this is a joke or what, but you'll never get something like this to work. To even have a chance, you'd need to use a cordless 2.4GHz phone. It's at least in the right frequency ballpark, never mind all the other problems.
Assuming an egg has the heat capacity of 60g of water, and a 1000mAh * 3.7V cell phone battery, it looks like a fully charged cell phone battery could actually raise the temperature of an egg by 55 degrees C. That is, if you could somehow expend your entire battery into heat, and have it all go into the egg, you could cook one.
The article is still a joke, of course - the egg won't even come close to warming by any measurable amount.
this is nonceklse - ive;benen using my cebll phone for yearsnow and theresno obsevvable effecsts.
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It has none of the charm or actual science of Mythbusters and yet the people who make it think they're the coolest, funniest, sexiest people in the world. What they don't realise is that they're actually English.
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This really works! I've done it!
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Thats funky. I wonder how many eggs I cook every day while im chatting with my GF...
Two, if you keep your phone in your front pants pocket.
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Uh. Huh. Let's see ... an egg is, oh, say 50 grams. So it takes 50 calories to raise the temp of the egg by 1C. and a hard-boiled egg is more or less at equilibrium with boiling water, so the minimum would be something like 70×50 calories, and 4.2 joules/calorie, so its going to take MINIMUM 14,700 joules.
60 joules to the watt-minute. 720 joules in 12 watt-minutes. 720 joules < 14,700 joules.
Check: it takes about 1 minute for my 700 watt microwave to cook 1 egg. 700 watt-minutes is 42,000 joules. 720 joules < 42,000 joules.
I call bullshit.
It is EXTREMELY irresponsible to post such stupid stuff here - don't you realise that soon this will be duped several times on Digg and then other Diggers will post it to their blogs, while others look for someone (or a cell phone company) to blame, and will start wrapping their phones or heads in tinfoil - heck, some Diggers will probably TRY and cook an egg and may get salmonella from the eggs on their fingers, which they will transfer to their mouths when they suck their thumbs and so will end up needing antibiotics.
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I better go warn them before it's too late.....
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This has been widely discussed online and it is a pure hoax. The wymsey site also has such highly factual articles as hunting the wily tofu. Obligatory dig at slashdot editors elided for space.
How does anyone get out of high school without the ability to call bullshit on stuff like this?
It takes one calorie to raise the temperature of one gram of water by one degree C. To a first approximation, an egg weighs about 50 grams, and is full of stuff whose specific heat is probably not too different from that of water. Let's say cooking an egg at room temperature requires you to raise its temperature by 50 degrees C for one minute. You will need something on the order of 2500 calories to do this, or about 10,000 joules. This energy will have to be transferred to the egg over a one-minute interval, assuming 100% efficiency.
A joule is one watt-second, so this cooking process is going to require exposing the egg to about 166 watts for one minute. At 100% efficiency.
A cell phone puts out about one watt, and good luck funnelling all of its output into an egg. (For extra credit, calculate the impedance of a chicken egg in free space, and design a suitable matching network).
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to my public-safety campaign, warning gullible Americans about dangerous levels of radiation in voting booths.
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If this were true, a naked magentron would be a great cellphone jammer. Even if not, it still might be!
HOAX, people. On brainiac (british show. mythbusters but zanier) they tried this by burying an egg under 60+ phones and repeatedly dailing them all (which mythbusters has already proven generates the largest wattage spikes). Nothing happend to the egg.
First off, as stated in an earlier port, 2.45GHz is NOT the resonant frequency of water molecules, otherwise only the surface of food in microwaves would be heated.
http://rabi.phys.virginia.edu/HTW/microwave_ovens. html
Cell phones work at 850MHz or 1850MHz, so it's not looking good right from the off.
Second off, as stated by the article, "For instance, a pair of mobiles each with 2 Watts of transmitter output will take three minutes to boil a large free range egg."
Four watts. Four joules per second.
Lets look at this. I'll use some glaring assumptions just to get an estimate of the time taken to cook an egg with 4W (with is a factor of ten greater than you'd really expect from two mobile phone).
First off, lets assume that you want to heat the egg (70g - it's a large egg) from 20C to 100C. I'm not sure if that constitutes cooking, but it'll do for now.
Lets also assume that the energy required to heat the egg is similar to that of water (4186 J/kg).
So energy required is 4186 * 0.07 * 80 = 23kJ.
At 4W, we're talking 5860 seconds, or 98 minutes. And that's assuming 100% efficiency, which definitely won't be the case in this situation. (Not forgetting the already incorrect factor of ten for the phone output power, frequency of operation and burst nature of phone comms).
By the by, I discovered this page on egg boiling science as I finished writing this post:
http://newton.ex.ac.uk/teaching/CDHW/egg/
Perhaps someone with more patience than me can more accurately calculate the energy required to boil a 70g egg?
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wouldn't the radiation have to be ionising for this to work? Nope. The phenomena that is (barely) at work here is dielectric heating, same principle as a microwave oven. Speaking of microwaves, the cell phone bands (900MHz and 1800Mhz) aren't particularly good at heating things up.
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but wouldn't the radiation have to be ionising[sic] for this to work?
All 'ionizing radiation means' is that the radiation is strong enough to break the strong bonds between atoms causing the subject of the radiation to become ionized. Basically if the energy of a photon is high enough (the higher the frequency, the higher the energy), an electron can be kicked out of whatever material it strikes, or so I understand.
Normally, when a lower energy, non-ionizing photon strikes some object, it elevates the energy of the electrons in the atoms that compose the material, and during a brief moment the electrons jump away from the nucleus for a, and they fall back to their normal positions. In the process of doing this, heat is released into the object. Some of that heat energy will be radiated away as infrared radiation because when electrons fall back closer to the atom, photons are released, causing electromagnetic waves.
The frequency your microwave uses is many orders of magnitude less energetic than the light impacting your eyeballs, and both are non-ionizing, excepting the UV you receive when you're outside.
I think my explanation is pretty close to how it's thought to work, but anyone with more understanding of this subject is more than encouraged to correct me.
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How many honey bees does it take to cook an egg?
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An egg has a mass of about 50 g; assume that's all water, that it's at room temperature, and that we want to raise it to boiling.
So we have (50 g)*(80 degrees C)*(4.2 J/(g * degree C))
=16800 J
Assume that our phone is putting out 2 W=2J/s, and that it's all going into the egg, it'll take 8400 s, or more than 2 hours. That's assuming the egg cup insulates perfectly.
I know this has been debunked already, but anyways. Phone A talks to cell mast A and phone B talks to cell mast B.
Cell mast A may or may not equal cell mast B.
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I tried it and it works!
The only thing the article fails to mention is that the phones must be inside a 400 degree oven for the entire process. But other than that...
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Ok, first of all; if I could cook an egg in say five minutes using two phone, I could cook it in 10 minutes using one phone. I talk longer than that on the phone sometimes - how would the right side of my brain look if the phone actually emitted enough energy to boil an egg in that time? Right - you would faint after talking just a few seconds (heating the brain is *really* not a good-for-you thing to do). After 10 minutes of talking you wouldn't be able to guess your own name, should you wake up...
So, obviously this is BS.
Now. A big egg, let's say that's about 80 grams of mass, and that the specific heat of the combined egg contents is similar to water (shouldn't be too much of a long shot). So, we have 80 grams of something that has a specific heat close to 4 joules/(gram*kelvin).
To boil that, we need to heat it about 80 kelvin (room temperature around 293 kelvin, water boiling at 373 kelvin). That's 4 [joules/(gram*kelvin)] * 80 [kelvin] = 320 [joules/gram].
We had 80 grams of egg. This gives us 80 [grams] * 320 [joules/gram] = 25600 [joules].
We had five minutes to do this - that's 5*60=300 seconds. A joule being one watt in one second, we get: 25600 [watt*second] / 300 [seconds] = 85 [watts]. So, using 85 watts for five minutes should get an egg from room temperature to the boiling point of water. Approximately.
Each phone would then have to emit around 42 watts (could this be a coincidence? Oh, nevermind..).
Let's say you get around one third of the energy into the egg (I'm really being generous here - the egg would have to cover 1/3 of the output of the antenna and completely absorb the energy) - you would need two phones each with a 126 watt transmitter.
Mobile phones with 100+ watt transmitters? I know there are rural areas in the US of A, but I sincerely doubt that it's common to carry phones that pack that much punch.
Besides, the article talked about 2 watt output phones... Again, BS.
Ahhh.... Have a nice day.