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Blizzard Techs Talk Login Times, Not Gay Rights

Shane Dabiri and John Lagrave took an interview with Eurogamer, and used the opportunity to talk about the login problems that have been plaguing World of Warcraft since Christmas. As techs, they're not there to talk about the ongoing discussion involving Gay rights in their game world. Kotaku, however, is not under any kind of restriction, and reports on legal movement against the company by Lambda Legal. The group is organized around procuring civil rights for people in the GLBT community, and sent a strongly worded letter to Blizzard's legal team. From that letter: "We are very concerned that Blizzard's policy, as expressed in the foregoing statement, discriminates against LGBT gamers. Although preventing harassment is an admirable goal, a requirement that LGBT people remain invisible and silent is not an acceptable means of reaching that goal." Blizzard has already removed the warning from the player in question, saying that it was an 'unfortunate interpretation' of their EULA.

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  1. Re:Rights? by DJCacophony · · Score: 0, Troll

    A company can't deny any sort of service to somebody based solely on their sexual orientation.
    Blizzard is doing just that.

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  2. That's funny by flyinwhitey · · Score: 0, Troll

    I've never seen a parade of fundies strolling down the street of my town demanding "political equality NOW!", but I've seen it three separate times from The gay lobby.

    And I'm not saying it doesn't happen, so don't try that crap.

    Both side politicize the issue, why you thought you could get away with claiming otherwise I don't know.

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    1. Re:That's funny by fashionfirst · · Score: -1, Troll

      The problem is they DONT have the right. Sodomy is against the law in most states. They also DONT have the right to infringe upon the rights of others by trying to force feed their perverted sense of what they think is acceptable behavior upon the god fearing people of the world. The simple fact is they parade to try and gain acceptance for their perversions regardless of the fact that is not legal, morally acceptable or spiritually acceptable to the majority.

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  3. Re:The "T" in LGBT Stands for by (A)*(B)!0_- · · Score: 0, Troll

    So they excluded intolerant people? Well, that's rather intolerant!

  4. Re:Argh! by Damvan · · Score: 0, Troll

    So you don't think infertile couples should be allowed to marry?

  5. You;re changing the argument by flyinwhitey · · Score: 1, Troll

    You said

    "The Religious Right has made this a political issue, when in fact it is not even an issue."

    I refuted you, and I think you knew when you posted it that your statement was wrong.

    "You're missing the point of the argument; I don't think Homosexuals would be parading up and down the streets asking for the same rights as everyone else if they wheren't having their rights infringed upon for no apparent reason."

    I didn't miss the point, you never made it. However, if you'd like to show me where you made that point in your previous post, I'll reasess what I've said.

    Finally, YOU missed MY point. The gay lobby is JUST LIKE any other political organization, and your blind assumption that they are "asking for the same rights as everyone else" betrays your ignorance. They are a POLITICAL LOBBY, and like ALL the other political lobbies, they are about self interest. Make no mistake, if they could get what they wanted by trampling your rights, it would happen in a second.

    In the future, replace every instance of "gay" with "fundie" in your argument, and reconsider how you feel about it then.

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  6. People need to stfu by Hubbell · · Score: -1, Troll

    I can't put it any other way. Minorities, or anyone different from others, need to shut the hell up about their differences. They cry when they are discriminated against, yet flaunt their differences constantly? I'm sorry, but if you flaunt the fact that you are gay, lesbian, transsexual, anything a lot of people find morally wrong, you are asking to get discriminated against and need to stfu when it happens. They bring it on themselves in most cases.

    1. Re:People need to stfu by Hubbell · · Score: -1, Troll

      How am I trolling? Most gays don't bring attention to the fact that they are gay, and therefore noone gives them shit. The majority of gays who are discriminated against BRING IT ON THEMSELVES by constantly flaunting their homosexuality in front of others and making sure everybody knows they are different.

    2. Re:People need to stfu by justaj · · Score: 0, Troll

      Whoa. Minorities need to shut up about their differences? "They cry when they are discriminated against, yet flaunt their differences constantly?"

      Countless people died during the civil rights movement just so that we (as minorities) COULD show our differences and not have to be just like everyone else. No offense kid but you are a moron and when it comes to minorities you need to STFU because it's obvious you don't know what it took to get equality into this country in the first place.

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  7. Nice double standards. by xtieburn · · Score: -1, Troll

    When the hell are these rights activists going to get it through there moronic skulls that freedom or in this case the lack of it is a two way street!

    'There is nothing insulting about identifying oneself as gay, lesbian or transgender'

    No, no, NO, there is nothing insulting about it to _YOU_, that doesnt give you the right to make it not insulting to everyone in the world. If I was a bigot and wanted to be insulted by it then I fucking will be, their crappy organisation can go screw itself before it tells me how to think.

    Blizzard rules are simple they ban the talking of sexual orientation if it insults someone. So if someone gets insulted by the fact that there is GLBT groups those groups can be banned. If someone is insulted that there are Heterosexual groups those groups can be banned. What the hell makes the GLBT community somehow more important than everyone else? Nothing.

    God I wish Blizzard would enforce the ban all the more and take this on full force. They won't though, they'll back down like a good little company as the positive discrimination clowns further erode the rights they claim to protect.

    This whole thing is so utterly gay.
    *waits for Lambda to sue him for using the word 'gay' in a derogatory way.*

  8. Re:Argh! by theStorminMormon · · Score: 1, Troll

    the art and science done by religious men was done on the backs of peasant laborers who had no choice but to tithe their hard work to the church under threat of violence

    What are you smoking? This would fit building a cathedral - yes. But that's not what I had in mind. I had the painting on the ceiling of the Cistine Chapel in mind. I had Handel's Msesiah in mind. I had illuminated manuscripts laboriously hand-copied for generations by monks (voluntarily!).

    I would argue the opposite. Most of the injustices done in the name of religion had nothing to do with religious belief or conviction. Religion was a powerful institution so it made sense to hijack it to get rich, powerful, etc. By contrast Handel's Messiah is nothing without the Messiah. I'm not saying you can't make great art without religion. But I am saying that a large chunk of our great art is inseperable from the religious sentiment with which it was made.

    What I consider to be the essential criteria of religion: it's morality, it's consideration of mortality, it's philosophical insights are far more angel than demon. I understand that in the name of God much that is demonic has been done - but that doesn't reflect on religion, in my opinion, so much as it reflects upon human nature. If you were going to do great deeds - for good or ill - in the days before powerful nations were distinct from their gods you could not do it without invoking the vocabulary of religion. That doesn't make the deeds themselves - good or bad - necessarily religious.

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  9. Re:G/L/B Rights by Cat_Byte · · Score: -1, Troll

    wondered what a staunch fundamentalist christian is doing
    And I find myself wondering why someone would assume that only a Christian could be disgusted by 2 hairy guys tonguing each other in public.... Only someone on the left would view this so narrowly.... Personally I can't imagine looking at a hairy butt and thinking "love". I would feel the same way no matter what my political or spiritual beliefs. I'm not against gays, I'm just against being asked to look at it in public and accept that it's ok. p.s.....GROSS!

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