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1 Billion iTunes Contest

pvt_medic writes "Apple has announced their newest contest for the 1 Billionth iTunes song downloaded. Every 100,000 downloads someone will win an iPod nano and a $100 giftcard, with the grand prize being an iMac, 10 iPod (60GB), and $10,000 credit at iTunes. Looks like business is going well for Apple."

141 comments

  1. May I Be The First To Say.. by Ryz0r · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Holy CRAP that's a good prize!

    It's a shame the chances of winning will be so, so slim though.

    Also, it seems kinda daft. What would one person want with ten 60 gig iPods?

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    1. Re:May I Be The First To Say.. by catch23 · · Score: 5, Funny

      A 600GB raid-0 array!

    2. Re:May I Be The First To Say.. by dc29A · · Score: 1

      What would one person want with ten 60 gig iPods?

      eBay?

    3. Re:May I Be The First To Say.. by jcr · · Score: 4, Funny

      What would one person want with ten 60 gig iPods?

      Some people have ten friends or relatives they could give them to.

      -jcr

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    4. Re:May I Be The First To Say.. by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Funny

      How about a 540GB RAID-5 array? That's still a half-terabyte that will survive if one iPod explodes for some mysterious reason. Not that Apple would ever put out an exploding (*cough* laptop *cough*) product.

    5. Re:May I Be The First To Say.. by afaik_ianal · · Score: 4, Funny

      Some people have ten friends...

      On Slashdot?!? You must be new here.

    6. Re:May I Be The First To Say.. by skoaldipper · · Score: 1
      > It's a shame the chances of winning will be so, so slim though.

      Huh? You mean after all those "free" magazine sweepstake entries, you never had Ed McMahon show up at your front doorstep like me? Well, ok. My next door neighbor has the same name, and he was just returning my leaf blower...

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    7. Re:May I Be The First To Say.. by kahanamoku · · Score: 1

      10x iPods?..

      hmm, perhaps I could run a competition where every 100,000 items purchased off my shop can... uhh.. never mind!

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    8. Re:May I Be The First To Say.. by luvirini · · Score: 1

      Well some people do have 9 people on their slashdot friends list atleast.. maybe send one to each... :)

    9. Re:May I Be The First To Say.. by greed · · Score: 1

      Apple laptops don't always explode.

      Sometimes they just have a serious thermal fault in the main logic board.

      Here's hoping the iBook G4 doesn't have that particular fault, I'd like to try some different failures....

    10. Re:May I Be The First To Say.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing I can think of is considering the fact that they're handing out a $10,000 iTunes prize, they thought it was necessary to at TRY and give the winner a comfortable amount of portable storage space (iPod) to actually be able to use most of that music on the road.

    11. Re:May I Be The First To Say.. by pingveno · · Score: 1

      Since when has Slashdot been Apple's only iTunes customer?

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    12. Re:May I Be The First To Say.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What would one person want with ten 60 gig iPods?

      Put $10,000 worth of iTunes downloads on them?

  2. 10 iPods? by Mr.+Sketch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm curious, what does one do with ten 60GB iPods? It seems that you keep one for yourself and sell the other 9 on eBay. Maybe give some to your friends? Maybe give an iPod to your senator?

    It just seems like ten iPods is a lot for one person and will just end up being given away.

    1. Re:10 iPods? by jzeejunk · · Score: 0

      imagine a beowulf cluster of 10 60 GB ipods ... omg!!

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    2. Re:10 iPods? by wasted+time · · Score: 1

      I'm curious, what does one do with ten 60GB iPods?

      If I win, I'll have 9 new iFriends.

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    3. Re:10 iPods? by 42Penguins · · Score: 1

      One makes a RAID array of iPods, THAT is what one does with 10 60GB iPods!

      Remember the RAID Shuffle? Implemented a little better, perhaps, with each on its own USB port instead of sharing one, especially for 60GB each.

    4. Re:10 iPods? by Penguin+Programmer · · Score: 1

      what does one do with ten 60GB iPods?

      One builds a tiny Beowulf cluster, of course!

    5. Re:10 iPods? by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, I think Apple is expecting the person to give them away. Then there's 9 more iTunes customers.

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    6. Re:10 iPods? by supabeast! · · Score: 1

      "I'm curious, what does one do with ten 60GB iPods?"

      Buy a big USB 2 hub a build a small RAID 0+1 array.

  3. Entry open to... by kahanamoku · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Entrants must be 13 years of age or older, and a legal resident of one of the 50 United States, including Washington, D.C., Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada (excluding the Province of Quebec), Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland or the United Kingdom.

    However, if your zip code isn't 5 digits long, you probably wont receive the prize!

    C'mon Apple, how US-Centric are you?...

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    1. Re:Entry open to... by Frequency+Domain · · Score: 1

      Hell, even if your zip code IS 5 digits long you probably won't receive the prize. Why do you pre-judge that this is a US-Centric contest, given the list of countries you provided? Apple doesn't care who the winner is, they anticipate that people will buy more stuff(tm) in an attempt to become the winner.

    2. Re:Entry open to... by kahanamoku · · Score: 4, Informative

      http://www.apple.com/itunes/1billion/entryform/

      The MZFinance.MZAlternateEntryForm.Zip field must be at least 5 characters.

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    3. Re:Entry open to... by EuroChild · · Score: 1

      "...legal resident of one of the 50 United States, including Washington, D.C., Australia, Austria, Belgium...

      Hey, last time I checked Australia wasn't part of the United States...! Oh, wait, no - apparently we are now...

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    4. Re:Entry open to... by dr.badass · · Score: 1

      C'mon Apple, how US-Centric are you?...

      The very next line after the portion you quoted is this: Entrants must enter the Promotion through the iTunes Music Store accessible in your country of residence.

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    5. Re:Entry open to... by elmegil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So basically only US citizens get a way to enter for free. As required by US law. Why is that surprising?

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    6. Re:Entry open to... by SD_92104 · · Score: 1

      Prepend with zeroes - works like a charm (and your local post office won't mind from my experience)

    7. Re:Entry open to... by foniksonik · · Score: 1

      Did you get that number from the US version of itunes? If so, you might want to check to see if the various non-US versions might just have a different address form...

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    8. Re:Entry open to... by Oscar_Wilde · · Score: 1

      However, if your zip code isn't 5 digits long, you probably wont receive the prize!
       
      It seems to be possible to enter white space into the ZIP code box and still have it accepted.

    9. Re:Entry open to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is hard to believe, I know, but it seems you missed the part about "one of the 50 United States, including ". Even though that was pretty much the whole quote. Also, there might have been humor involved.

    10. Re:Entry open to... by Bazzalisk · · Score: 1

      So, which of the 50 normal united states aren't eligible in order to make space for Australia, the UK, Switzerland, etc ...?

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    11. Re:Entry open to... by highlander76 · · Score: 1

      Entrants must be 13 years of age or older, and a legal resident of one of the 50 United States, including Washington, D.C., Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada (excluding the Province of Quebec), Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland or the United Kingdom.

      I must have missed the US getting those new states.

      Is this how we are going to raise our kids test scores - annex the countries with the good scores?

  4. free entries by HoneyBunchesOfGoats · · Score: 4, Informative
    The best part is for those who don't buy into these contests is that you can use the free downloads for entry.

    Um, no. From the Official Rules:
    How To Enter. You will automatically be entered into the Promotion by: 1) downloading a song from iTunes (any music video or other video downloads and any free downloads will be deemed an ineligible entry); or 2) a free alternative means of entry by completing an online entry form available at http://www.apple.com/itunes/1billion/entryform/ (a song download or free online entry will be deemed an "Entry(ies)").
    1. Re:free entries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Um". The sign of a juvenile mind.

    2. Re:free entries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Anonymity. The sign of cowardice.

    3. Re:free entries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      recursive post, the sign of someone who likes a good paradox!

    4. Re:free entries by bcat24 · · Score: 1

      Oh the irony!

    5. Re:free entries by drDugan · · Score: 1

      holy perl scripts batman!!

      FTEF (from the entry form):

      (Limited to 25 entries per day)

    6. Re:free entries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  5. Prizes every 3 hours by evw · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you believe the meter running on the above web page, it ran through 1000 songs in 112 seconds. At that rate they give out the 100,000 song prize every 3 hours 6 minutes 40 seconds. However that also means they're 61.425 days away from giving away the grand prize.

    1. Re:Prizes every 3 hours by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't believe you are correct.

      My math based on the last 3 hours of sampling data...

      100,000 songs every 48 minutes.

      We should hit 1,000,000,000 songs sometime late (PST) on the 23rd of February or the very early morning of the 24th.

    2. Re:Prizes every 3 hours by jcr · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you believe the meter running on the above web page, it ran through 1000 songs in 112 seconds.

      That's about right.

      BTW, I spoke with the programmer who implemented that counter. It phones home to adjust its tick rate, so it's pretty close to the actual running count, barring massive network latency.

      -jcr

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    3. Re:Prizes every 3 hours by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It doesn't seem to phone home often enough. I left the web page open (in a tab) for a while, then noted at 16:07:58 PST that the count was 952,662,060. At 16:14:33 PST I hit reload and the counter went backwards to 952,550,275!

    4. Re:Prizes every 3 hours by jcr · · Score: 1

      I left the web page open (in a tab) for a while,

      It probably doesn't phone home when the applet isn't visible.

      -jcr

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    5. Re:Prizes every 3 hours by rebot777 · · Score: 1

      That's probably not accurate seeing as how the number of songs bought at 6pm would probably greatly differ from those bought at 6am. Chances are you were checking at a peak time in purchases.

    6. Re:Prizes every 3 hours by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It probably doesn't phone home when the applet isn't visible.

      Looking at the source, it only updates on first load.

  6. probably 10 different winners... by Cryptnotic · · Score: 0

    Similarly, the iMac will go to one person, 10 ipods will go to 10 people, and the $10,000 in iTunes songs will go to maybe 100 or 1000 different people.

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  7. Dear Winner: by Anonymous+Crowhead · · Score: 5, Funny

    Good luck with your taxes in 2007.

    We'll be watching.

    The IRS

  8. oops... I was wrong... by Cryptnotic · · Score: 1

    Looks like I didn't read the fine article. Seems the lucky winner does indeed win 10 iPods and $10,000 credit on iTMS.

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  9. Song titles appear when you click on the links by yogikoudou · · Score: 0, Troll

    And most of them are crap.

  10. Hah. by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 3, Informative

    (1,699 + (10,000*.99) + (10*399)) *.3 (ballpark) = $4,676.7

    Will Apple provide low interest financing to the winner so that they can pay for the taxes? Otherwise they probably threw in the extra 9 iPods just to make it more prohibitively expensive & hope that the winner can't claim the prize.

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    1. Re:Hah. by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      The 500M contest was the same thing but without the iMac, I am sure the winner claimed the prize.

      The winner could sell most of the iPods and make most of that money back. Basically the contest provides enough audio to fill most of a 60GB unit.

    2. Re:Hah. by joe+155 · · Score: 1

      Not being from America I have no idea how your tax system works... do you have to pay taxes on all winnings? at what rate would you pay it? and who decides how much a prize is woth (is it its cost price or market value if it were new in a shop - and if so what shop)?

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    3. Re:Hah. by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      I don't know the details either. I'm just pretty sure that such winnings have to be taxed as income, otherwise people might use "contests" to circumvent income tax.

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    4. Re:Hah. by NoStrings · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Fortunately, those of us in countries other than the U.S. don't necessarily have to pay taxes on winnings. This contest is open to people in Canada who would not have an extra tax burden if they won. (We already pay enough taxes!)

    5. Re:Hah. by grrrl · · Score: 1

      in Australia I'm pretty sure you don't have to pay tax on winnings (though I remember something about games of luck vs games of skill having different rules), but the competition itself has to be registered with the relevant authority in each state

    6. Re:Hah. by FuturePastNow · · Score: 1

      .3? Thirty percent taxes? Try more like six percent.

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    7. Re:Hah. by pintomp3 · · Score: 1

      do u have to pay taxes on the 10k worth of songs? i can understand the rest, but the songs are not a physical gift, and the money never comes to you. it's more like 10k worth of free downloads. of course if they give u a gift card that you can sell, i can understand having to pay taxes on that. if it's just putting a bunch of credits in your account, it would really suck to pay taxes on that. especially if you don't "redeem" all of it.

    8. Re:Hah. by ElectroBot · · Score: 1

      I thought that it was only lottery winnings that weren't taxed in Canada. (Although any income that you make on top of the lottery winnings would be taxed as if your lottery winnings were actual income - e.g. lottery winnings put you in top tax bracket, so any income is taxed at top tax bracket rate)

      Could you please provide a link to some relevant info. Thanks.

    9. Re:Hah. by tbone1 · · Score: 3, Informative
      Not being from America I have no idea how your tax system works...

      That's okay, neither do we.

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    10. Re:Hah. by MikeyTheK · · Score: 1

      Wow. Do none of you have itemized deductions on your taxes? Do none of you have kids? Do a little math - let's say that you and a spouse (uh, I know that's a stretch for most of you) make the US average $75,000 together, and own a median $215,000 home that you are paying 6% on. You have the typical 2.3 kids (or is it 2.1 kids?). Your tax rate is...2.5%, unless I just did the math wrong. Let's see - 2 kids at $1,000 tax credit each, plus four times the standard deduction, add about $10K in mortgage interest, roughly $5K in property taxes, daycare...yeah, 2.5% seems to be close, if maybe a bit high. Needless to say, your tax bill for the grand prize is pretty small. Just for the hell of it, I wonder what it would be if you had eight kids (you do have ten ipods to give away, so eight kids would about do it) - let's see - two people per bedroom is five bedrooms, which pushes your home to about $300,000...you get the idea. The 30% number is generally a good starting point, but once you start adding in the tax incentives for families, the number drops fast.

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    11. Re:Hah. by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      Oh, dear. I thought it was just taxed as income.

      Never the hell mind.

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    12. Re:Hah. by NoStrings · · Score: 1

      You could be right. I've never actually won anything major, so I'm not 100% sure. I know that the government-run lottery is not taxed. The government already makes tons of cash from the losers. I've heard the lottery described as a "stupidity tax". (I know people who use the lottery as their retirement savings plan.)

  11. Sign of the times by The-Bus · · Score: 4, Funny

    You can tell that iTunes is being embraced by everyone when the top-selling songs are "Grillz" by Nelly, "Shake That" by Eminem and "L.O.V.E." by Ashlee Simpson.

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    1. Re:Sign of the times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      smart point

    2. Re:Sign of the times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking of this type of thing - I've started wondering how easy it would be for the record companies
      to manipulate the rankings of the top ten in iTunes, by getting reps to 'buy' songs & albums that they
      want to raise the rankings on.

      Given that probably over 1/2 the money goes right back in their pockets, it could be a form of cheap
      advertising.

  12. Entry form is not accessible by tepples · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The entry form uses a visual CAPTCHA, which is not accessible to users with visual impairment such as, say, many iPod Shuffle owners. In jurisdictions with anti-discrimination statutes, this could be considered discrimination or even violate gambling laws because for blind people, a purchase is necessary. Given that the iPod player is an audio device, wouldn't it make sense to include an audio-based alternate confirmation method?

    1. Re:Entry form is not accessible by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      Plus it ain't working anyway. Oooh, dear.

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    2. Re:Entry form is not accessible by HoneyBunchesOfGoats · · Score: 1

      Did I /. apple.com? Wow, I feel honored.

    3. Re:Entry form is not accessible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Class action lawsuit! Go get 'em!

      Nice way to insult the iPod Shuffle owners.

    4. Re:Entry form is not accessible by jgc7 · · Score: 1

      Sure, but try to find a lawyer to take this case. Damages = prize * probability of payout. So let's see that is $350/100,000 + 16,000 /50,000,000 = $0.004 per entry. If a blind person claimed they would have entered 25 times per day for 100 days you come to a fair settlement of $9.55. Even if you formed a class action, the settlement would be less than the postage required communicate with the members of the class.

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    5. Re:Entry form is not accessible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You make a strong point. No blind person has any sighted friends. They all just get through life using magic and seeing eye dogs that bark at the right can of soup in the grocery store.

      What the fuck? Please sue yourself, then die.

    6. Re:Entry form is not accessible by nuggetman · · Score: 1

      If they want to enter that badly, they can get someone to read the screen for them. Not trolling, just making a point.

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  13. Does video downloads count... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does anyone know if video downloads count in this contest? Winning the grand prize while downloading the latest episode of Battlestar Galatica would be awesome!

    1. Re:Does video downloads count... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should since videos cost more, but no, videos and free songs don't count. From the Official Rules:

      3. How To Enter. You will automatically be entered into the Promotion by: 1) downloading a song from iTunes (any music video or other video downloads and any free downloads will be deemed an ineligible entry); or 2) a free alternative means of entry by completing an online entry form available at http://www.apple.com/itunes/1billion/entryform/ (a song download or free online entry will be deemed an "Entry(ies)"). One Entry will be automatically submitted for each song downloaded. The recipient of song(s) purchased through the "Gift this Music" feature on iTunes will be deemed the entrant upon successfully redeeming the song(s) (upon download). The authorized iTunes account holder will be deemed to be the entrant for Entries via song download. Free Entries are limited to twenty-five (25) entries per person, per day. The Promotion begins following the downloading of the 950,000,000th iTunes song, and ends with the downloading of the 1 billionth Entry ("End Date"). Only Entries submitted in this time period will be accepted.

  14. Doing Well? by RingDev · · Score: 0, Troll

    "Every 100,000 downloads someone will win an iPod nano and a $100 giftcard, with the grand prize being an iMac, 10 iPod (60GB), and $10,000 credit at iTunes. [Factually incorrect statement removed] Looks like business is going well for Apple"

    So, for every 100,000 downloads (~$100,000.00 gross) they are giving away $50 in hardware and $100 in gift certificates. Wow, that's almost impressive.. wait, no it's not.

    They'll gross just shy of $1 billion during this period, during which they will award About $161,000.00 in hardware and certificates. That's .0016%. If their profit margin isn't large enough to sustain that amount with ease, then they need to look into their pricing structure.

    -Rick

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    1. Re:Doing Well? by GaryPatterson · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What's your point? That Apple are wrong to offer a prize at all? Or that you think it's not enough? That they should offer their entire profit margin as prizes?

      Remembering the breakdown of money from each song sold, I think Apple only get a few cents per track. At that rate, it's not a bad prize. It's even better for people who are just doing what they do anyway.

      Maybe one of those other, competing music stores could offer a better prize for their billion mark.

    2. Re:Doing Well? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      So, for every 100,000 downloads (~$100,000.00 gross) they are giving away $50 in hardware and $100 in gift certificates. Wow, that's almost impressive.. wait, no it's not.

      Suddenly companies are required to give away a substantial proportion of their earnings in contents?

      Not to mention your definition of "gross" is a little off since they only get $0.33/song, the rest going to the labels. Then they pay for bandwidth, maintenance, managers, etc. So how much "profit" they are making is up for question, not that it makes the prize worth 50% of their earnings or anything.

    3. Re:Doing Well? by RingDev · · Score: 1

      My point is that the summary is about worthless. That is all.

      -Rick

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    4. Re:Doing Well? by GaryPatterson · · Score: 1

      Fair enough.

    5. Re:Doing Well? by RingDev · · Score: 2, Informative

      My point was not to rag on Apple, but to rag on the summary writer and editor. The summary was factually incorrect and made it sound like this give away was a sign of Apple's financial strength.

      I don't mind taking the ocasional troll rating, but atleast let people understand what I was trolling!

      -Rick

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    6. Re:Doing Well? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apologies, I misunderstood.

    7. Re:Doing Well? by CrackedButter · · Score: 1

      You must be new here, when have mods understood what they are modding?

    8. Re:Doing Well? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention your definition of "gross" is a little off since they only get $0.33/song, the rest going to the labels. Then they pay for bandwidth, maintenance, managers, etc. So how much "profit" they are making is up for question, not that it makes the prize worth 50% of their earnings or anything.

      Actually.. that would be the definition of "net" profit.

    9. Re:Doing Well? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Mayhaps, but it seems wrong to even take gross into consideration. Suppose I have a company that sells cars, making only $1 off each car sold. The cars still COST ME $14,999, but I sell them for $15,000 even. Then I announce a contest where every 100,000 cars I sell I give away $75,000. Following the logic of using "gross" to calculate the "sacrifice" or "generosity" factor, I made $1.5billion (gross)!! $75,000 isn't a lot compared to $1.5billion (it's about 5%).

      However, if you use "net", then I've only made $100,000, so giving away $75,000 is actually 75%!

      So this is an extreme case, but you get the idea. Of course I was off on my saying the problem was with the definition; certainly it wasn't. The other problem is we don't know Apple's net income from an iTunes sale, but we do know it is about $0.33 after the record company takes their fair share. So factor in network, advertising, etc and it seems like they are not making a whole lot.

      But then you have to remember they indirectly sell iPods (and even Macs) by the iTunes store, because it gains them mindshare, etc etc. In the end it's not easy to calculate it's total value to them, I guess, but using the gross is a bad idea.

  15. Re:Cheap Bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Mathematically challenged much? You also forgot to take into account the fact that Apple don't get to keep that dollar for themselves; the majority goes straight into the pockets of the recording companies.

  16. Re:oops... I was wrong... by Stuart+Gibson · · Score: 1

    Well, $10000 should be about right to fill a 60gig iPod. Since iTunes lets you copy music to an unlimited number of iPods that looks like a great eBay opportunity for an unscrupulous winner...

    Stuart

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  17. Little-known exception by Carpe+PM · · Score: 5, Funny

    If the billionth song is a Michael Bolton tune they are skipped and the winner will be the next one.

    1. Re:Little-known exception by aventius · · Score: 1

      cue ... "why should be the one to change my name... he's the one that sucks"

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  18. Must not be a photographer... by temojen · · Score: 1

    I sooo need the Hard drive space.

  19. Troll? Naw by Spiffness · · Score: 1

    Troll nothing, its the sad truth. Shows exactly what a sad state the 'music' industry is in. I wonder how many wonderful artists are hidden away because they dont fit the tight mold it takes to sell millions these days. Just dont SUCK enough to make the cut. Actually, wherever they are, I hope they stay there.

  20. Mod parent A++++++++ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    jerry, very funneeeee guy

  21. Time to drag out this old chestnut: by This+Old+Chestnut · · Score: 3, Funny

    "I used to be with it, but then they changed what 'it' was. Now, what I'm with isn't it, and what's 'it' seems weird and scary to me."

    -- Abe Simpson

  22. Re:No incentive to use iTunes by Anonymous+Crowhead · · Score: 3, Funny

    What?! Could you speak up a little bit? I'm having a little trouble hearing you over all the noise this cash is making.

    Sincerely,

    Steve Jobs

  23. The Trade-offs by SilentOneNCW · · Score: 0

    Let's see: $10,000 worth of virtual goods, $5500 of real goods for the grand prize. Pretty good. But what will Apple gain? For $1,000,000,000 song downloads, they gain what, 99% of that in dollars? And in addition to that, they get major publicity and an increased rate of song downloads... They should just hold these kind of contests all the time, as they lose almost nothing and gain the most important thing of all: sales and media attention. What could be better?

    1. Re:The Trade-offs by discstickers · · Score: 1

      hey should just hold these kind of contests all the time.

      Dilution.

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    2. Re:The Trade-offs by SilentOneNCW · · Score: 1

      That's why I said these *kind* of contests. Yes, they would get diluted, but they would also transform iTunes into a kind of online lottery, as well as a music source, which would add to its lasting image as a worthwhile place to shop for music.

    3. Re:The Trade-offs by softspokenrevolution · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's right, because every $.99 is pure profit for apple

    4. Re:The Trade-offs by falcon5768 · · Score: 2, Informative

      no cause Apple only gets about 15 cents to every dollar if Im not mistaken while the record company/artist gets the rest.

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    5. Re:The Trade-offs by humajime · · Score: 4, Informative

      Lets not forget the fact that it costs them 9 out of the 15 cents they make to pay for the storage of the songs and the bandwidth to send you the songs. Oh yeah, and lets also not forget everyone they have to pay to make this server work (coders, network engineers, PR people, customer service). They make something like 2-3% on songs. On a .99 cent song, thats 2 pennies.

    6. Re:The Trade-offs by HarvardAce · · Score: 2, Informative
      no cause Apple only gets about 15 cents to every dollar if Im not mistaken while the record company/artist gets the rest.

      You had a typo there. It should have read:
      no cause Apple only gets about 15 cents to every dollar if Im not mistaken while the record company/RIAA gets the rest.

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    7. Re:The Trade-offs by MikeTheMan · · Score: 1

      So that's like, only $200,000,000. Poor bastards, they must be starving ;-)

    8. Re:The Trade-offs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      It is if they get their mp3's from the same place I do.

    9. Re:The Trade-offs by SheldonW · · Score: 1

      I love retorts with flawed math and/or logic...

  24. Odds of winning... by jollyroger1210 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    odds of winning? 1 in a billion.

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  25. Sell the extras. by sfgoth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Otherwise they probably threw in the extra 9 iPods just to make it more prohibitively expensive & hope that the winner can't claim the prize.

    Maybe they threw in the extra 9 iPods so you could sell them on eBay to pay the taxes?

    Or maybe they don't actually care either way.

    1. Re:Sell the extras. by media_Assassin · · Score: 1
      Maybe they threw in the extra 9 iPods so you could sell them on eBay to pay the taxes?

      The proceeds of which you'd have to pay income tax on, of course.
  26. I mean, no mention of the scholarship? by l3prador · · Score: 5, Informative

    I can't believe OP missed (IMO) the coolest part of the grand prize...

    Apple will create a full-ride scholarship in your name to a world-renowned music school.

    Classy.

    1. Re:I mean, no mention of the scholarship? by damsa · · Score: 1

      In an ironic twist, John Juliard won the 1 billionth contest, however the world reknown music school ended up being the Fantasy Kiss Camp.

    2. Re:I mean, no mention of the scholarship? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Totally! Oberlin Conservatory would be choice.

  27. Additional prize... by dr.badass · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There's an interesting extra part to the Grand Prize, which isn't listed on the main page:

    In addition, a scholarship will be created by Apple in the name of the Grand Prize winner to a world renowned music institution to be selected by Apple. The scholarship recipient shall receive four (4) years of tuition to a university-level program at the music department of the selected institution. The Grand Prize winner shall not be eligible to receive the scholarship or participate in determining the scholarship recipient. The scholarship shall have no monetary value to the Grand Prize winner. -- Official Rules

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    1. Re:Additional prize... by ASUSanator · · Score: 1

      It is definitly the coolest part of the prize. It would be hot to have something named after you.

    2. Re:Additional prize... by dr.badass · · Score: 2, Funny

      It would be hot to have something named after you.

      I read that about two seconds after misreading your user name as "ASSanator". Needless to say, I found it amusing.

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    3. Re:Additional prize... by ASUSanator · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I get alot of that. Including anusanator and arseanator aswell. Sometimes you wish you had some foresight in choosing your usernames. I was young when i chose it and most people recognise it as me, makes it difficult to change. I somehow think i would use my real name and not asusanator for the naming :P

    4. Re:Additional prize... by pintomp3 · · Score: 1

      if i win, i want the scholarship to be called "the human fund"..

  28. Entry not open to Quebec ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why? What did we do? Or maybe this is Apple's way of punishing Quebec for crippling Canadian politics with irrelevant and unrealistic zealotry.

    1. Re:Entry not open to Quebec ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Qebec law says that if you're running a 'lottery' (which this falls under the definition of) with a prize worth more than C$100, you have to register with the Régie des alcools, des courses et des jeux. You have to pay a fee to register, and it takes a long time to process the application, so it's not worthwhile for most companies to include Quebec in these promotions.

  29. Re:10 iPods? - That's the point... by trimsyndicate · · Score: 1

    It just seems like ten iPods is a lot for one person and will just end up being given away. What better way to get 9 more people hooked on buying iTunes downloads (and by extension other Apple products)?

  30. Unauthorized gambling is a crime by tepples · · Score: 1

    Damages = prize * probability of payout.

    Punitive damages, especially in the case of a tort that has a corresponding crime such as unauthorized gambling, can be much greater than actual damages.

  31. Re:Entry open to...NOT QUEBECOIS!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Could be worse. I always feel sorry for the poor Quebecois who are always prohibited from entering these and every other contest. Stupid provincial laws.

  32. Re:Cheap Bastards by lawnboy5-O · · Score: 1

    Steve - come on - are you still peaved about this?

  33. Re:No incentive to use iTunes by iainl · · Score: 2, Funny

    Quoth the modded-down AC (sadly, I think it's mildly amusing): "There's no real incentive to use iTunes, in any case, if you're not running Windows or a Mac, and even less so if you don't have an iPod."

    Well, um, no. In other news, there is very little incentive to buy fuel if you don't own a car to put it in, barely a point to buying DVDs without a player of some kind, and deaf people don't buy very many CDs.

    Quite what this insight has to offer the debate, I'm not sure, however.

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  34. Interesting Snippet of code by mkiwi · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I was looking through the source code on Apple's 1 Billion dollar site to see if there was a javascript calculator doing the counter, and I found this:

    <p class="sosumi">*No purchase necessary to win. <a href="/itunes/1billion/entryform/">Click here</a> to submit a free entry form.</p>

    Sosumi... mmmmm...

    1. Re:Interesting Snippet of code by bombboyer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Apperantly the "sosumi" thing is a running joke over at Apple, it goes back to 1991, when the Beatles were suing Apple Computer. More info (as always) at WikiPedia

    2. Re:Interesting Snippet of code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the weekly free downloads also count as a download from iTMS. So perhaps thats how you can win without purchase.

  35. Ten 60 GB iPods... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine an iWulf clust... oh, wait.

  36. Sharp Musique by stevea1210 · · Score: 1

    How wonderful would it be for the billionth sale to be to someone using Sharp Musique instead of itunes. Would Apple exclude them as the winner for not using the "official" client? Could they?

  37. F*CK the IRS by brunes69 · · Score: 1

    Thankfully I live in a country with sane tax laws around contest winnings, which are 100% tax free.

    Eligibility. In order to be eligible, entrants must be 13 years of age or older, and a legal resident of one of the 50 United States, including Washington, D.C., Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada (excluding the Province of Quebec), Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland or the United Kingdom.

    1. Re:F*CK the IRS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sane Tax laws? Provincial and Federal income tax, goods and services tax, privincial sales tax, property taxes, vehicles taxes, hidden levies etc... etc... Half of our pay goes to taxes one way or another.

  38. Re: What would one person want with ten iPods? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What would one person want with ten 60 gig iPods?

    Well they die about every 12 to 18 months on average so you'll be going through em. (Speaking from experience, just had to send in my iPod to be fixed/replaced after just over 1 year, luckily i was smart and got the extended warranty, otherwise i'd be out $400)

    ipod battery: $69
    ipod harddrive: $299
    Planned obsolence? priceless.

  39. Ground-breaking personal use restrictions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somebody's got to pay for the ground-breaking personal use restrictions.

    I don't use iTMS, but if they offered lossless audio compression with downloadable PDF artwork, I might be willing to consider their price and associated sacrifices.

    So, enter this contest and win a chance to buy a bunch of stuff from Apple for about $5,000 of your money and your likeness for advertising purposes.

  40. Greasemonkey helper by ChrisDolan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I created a Firefox Greasemonkey user script that makes it dramatically easier to submit entries to this contest. I explain how to install and use it in Read my blog

  41. Mod up! by 6th+time+lucky · · Score: 1

    Great script, and me with no mod points...

    Thanks for the into to greasemonkey

  42. RE: 1 Billion iTunes Contest by SweetAngel · · Score: 1

    I don't really get it. I mean, the downloads you buy up to the billionth are paying for the "free iPod" so I think it's just a big conspiracy to make more money for Apple.

  43. MUSIC?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >>You can tell iTunes is being embraced by everyone when the top-selling songs are
    >>"Grillz" by Nelly, "Shake That" by Eminem and "L.O.V.E." by Ashlee Simpson.

    >Shows exactly what a sad state the 'music' industry is in.

    Wait... rap is music? Since when is talking to a beat considered music? I know I'm behind the times, but that's bad even for me! Seriously, music and rap are almost antitheses of each other. Beethoven is music. Mozart is music. The Eagles are music. Bagpipes, country, even P.D.Q. Bach... but NOT anything that's mostly percussion or where you can't quite tell what they're saying. From the little I've heard of it, rap falls neatly into both categories.

  44. Apple's Counter is broke! Here is a better one... by photobiker · · Score: 1

    To win an iPod or the Grand Prize for the billionth song, you must buy a song each time the counter turns 100,000. The problem is: you can't rely on Apple's counter. It doesn't display the real-time count, it makes a projection based on a snapshot of the sales data over a period of 5 minutes, and that projection is always underestimated so that the counter doesn't go up and down each time the new data is released. With their method, it always goes up - but it's not accurate.

    The Apple counter also relies on a 100ms timer to keep running, but if your machine is blocked doing something (like dragging a scrollbar in your browser or whatever), it stops and loses count.

    I quickly fixed that over the weekend. Here is my page:
            http://www.billiontunescounter.com/

    It ain't pretty but so far today, it works. That should bring you one step closer to the 10 iPods and the $10,000 gift certificate. Good luck!