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RadioShack CEO Resigns

xzvf writes to tell us Forbes is reporting that RadioShack CEO David J. Edmondson has resigned. Reeling from a 62% drop in fourth quarter net income the company has announced a sweeping restructuring plan. From the article: "Edmondson said in a separate statement Monday that new leadership was needed so the company's turnaround plan would have the best possible chance to succeed. The revamp announced Friday prompted mixed responses from analysts, who indicated the plan might be successful but, at that time, they doubted Edmondson's ability to pull it off after it became clear he had lied about his education."

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  1. Check? by Agent00Wang · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "became clear he had lied about his education"

    It seems like you hear about this more and more in the business world. Don't they even bother to check people out?

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    1. Re:Check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There is no shortage of people on Slashdot with no business education who think they could run a business.... Seriously- Why does everyone here insult Biz degrees and MBAs?

    2. Re:Check? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I guess it's more understandable at lower levels, but you'd think that at the CEO level they might want to make sure they're getting what they paid for.

      The thing is that he'd been with Radio Shack for 11 years, and become the top sales associate before being offered the job as CEO. Whatever checks might have happened, probably didn't happen 11 years ago. Since then, no one had any reason to question his education. He was a full time employee with an excellent record. What else was necessary?

      After he crashed and burned the company, people started paying attention to who he was and where he came from.

    3. Re:Check? by Greg_D · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you have an aggressive streak, the ability to lie with a straight face, can communicate effectively, and the ability to remember a few facts and figures, you too can be a top salesman. No education beyond high school necessary.

      The qualifications necessary for a sales position and CEO aren't even close to being the same, and they should have checked his qualifications again before ever giving him the top spot. If you're a salesperson and you screw up big time, they can fire you and give your accounts to someone else, but even then you're not likely to hurt the company a great deal. If you're a CEO and you screw up, everyone in the company, and especially the shareholders, feel it.

    4. Re:Check? by Ubergrendle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Two things to consider: educational background has little relevance to one's capabiltiy of doing many corporate jobs. He's proven that with an 11 year successful internal record. I've seen it personally time and time again. The best development manager I ever worked for was a philosophy major in university. I personally have fired an MIT grad and opted to retain the community college grad, based on actual peformance, work ethic, and team mindedness.

      The other is the peter principle...one rises to the level of one's own inability. Unfortunately, the role of CEO requires very diffierent skills from top sales associate, or even head of marketing. His lack of success as CEO can just as easily be explained by a) inheriting a mess, b) lack of board support, and c) not the right man for the job. The educational question is probably just a hatchet job done to justify his removal after the fact -- "We've got a problem with Bob...find a reason to fire him!"

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    5. Re:Check? by WetSpot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I had a professor who was fond of describing the importance of putting your degree on your resume as "important only for landing that first job". After that, it's performance and experience based.

      If this CEO fudged his education, it speaks more to his character, judgement, and ethics than his ability sell batteries and solder.

    6. Re:Check? by typical · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Seriously, that is one of the most annoying things a store can do -- to demand your personal information at the counter.

      Also, the guy at the register hates doing it, because half the people that go by hate him asking them for it.

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    7. Re:Check? by Mille+Mots · · Score: 1, Insightful
      Anyone that excels in sales in that type of environment plays dirty. Period. So the fact that he was a leading salesman tells me enough about his character to know that he is not someone that should be in charge.

      You are unfamiliar with American corporate culture, yes? The entire point of business is to play as dirty as you can get away with in order to 'maximize share holder value.'

      To whit:

      • Enron
      • Global Crossing
      • SCO
      • Martha Stewart
      • others

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    8. Re:Check? by russellh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sure, you got an 4.0 in your business degree, but can you actually sell product and make money?
      Once you begin working, that is when your true worth becomes apparent.


      agreed. but in defense of the business degree, they only truly worthwhile business school experience is when you go back to school after having worked in the real world for a time. the executive MBA programs are entirely different from your random business degree, especially in the top schools that are taught by real life successful business people, who do real work in the real world, and where all the students have done real work in the real world also.

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  2. slogan by kisrael · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "You have questions...we have cellphone plans."

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    1. Re:slogan by Technician · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When they went to toys and phones instead of answers and parts, I stopped visiting. There are lots of places to get good prices on toys and phones. Why did they go from a niche market to an overpriced K-B Toys and cellphones? When I'm breadboarding a hardware project, I order online. I know the local Radio Shack doesn't have parts.

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    2. Re:slogan by Kevin+Stevens · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I am sure this comment is going to be utterly redundant shortly, but last time I went to Radio Shack I wanted solder. Not an exotic transistor or out of the ordinary capacitor, just farking solder for a soldering iron. I looked around the store, and could not find it. So I asked one of the clerks where I could find it (not believing that its possible that Radio Shack could have moved that far away from hobbyist stuff). The clerk did not know what solder was! He had to ask his coworker who said they might have some in the back. I was shocked, and there was another geek next to me who also had a stunned look on his face. In another time or place, or possibly a more empty store, we probably would have hugged each other to console ourselves. After the two of them went in the back store room for almost 10 minutes, he finally returned with a roll of it and asked if it was what I wanted. I walked out feeling like a defeated man. I kind of wanted to take the shitty component systems on the wall shelf and throw them at the stack of overpriced R/C cars.

      I am pretty sure if I had asked him for an LM555C Timer his would have asploded.

    3. Re:slogan by XO · · Score: 2, Insightful

      actually, radioshack sells more wireless phone units, satellite dishes, and a few other smaller products than all other retailers combined. Period.

      And the recurring revenue on a few million wireless phone contracts a year is something you'd be pretty damn appreciative of.

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  3. Long time coming.. by j0e_average · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Radio Shack went downhill when they made Cellphone and Satellite TV service their primary sales vehicles. They ought to get back to their roots...providing components for tinkerers. I know there's not as much potential profit in this, but if they were to partner with the editors of Make Magazine, they could become the new hope for the home brew crowd.

    Example: In this month's Make Magazine...there's an article on how to receive free (not illegal) satellite channels by using inexpensive materials. Radio Shack should be the source for this material for those who don't want to scrounge!

    I know this has been a huge plug for Make Magazine...but for goodness sake, when I used to need some obscure part, I knew it could be had cheaply at the Shack...now you have to order a lot of parts.

  4. The margin's the thing... by aapold · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For years now I've associated Radio Shaq with overpriced items... I only go there if they have something I can't get somewhere else and by that I mean something I need right this minute. That's like 3 times in six years for me.

    Plus, what few things they have are all across the board. I always wondered what they held in common, now I see that it was profit margin. A slim range of digital cameras, handheld radios (do people still use these?), stereo wire and connectors and radio control cars (like its a place you bring your kids to?). For each of these if that's what I'm looking for there are other places that come to mind first. Even audio connectors I'll go to some local contractor electronics supplier who can make a custom cable if I need it...

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  5. News: There's a new CEO with a tough job.... by postbigbang · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Big box consumer electronics retailers have usurped the role of the neighborhood consumer electronics store. Remember that not long ago, this was Tandy Leather Company. Although the company has changed over the years, each of their markets has big competition:

    - Cell phones and 2-way phones are in the big box retailers
    - Fry's and others have edged the electronic components and tech tool offerings
    - TVs, computers, stereos, and others are the domain of Best Buy, Circuit City, etc...
    - Tech toys have also been gnawed on by a slew of retailers

    So it's no fun to be Radio Snack, as my uncle calls them. Closing 700 stores is only the first step on a long journey back to health for these guys, as they try to find identity and appeal in the major and tiny markets they once did well in.

    Getting smeared because of their ex-CEO's dubious credentials is just another nail in the coffin if they're not careful.

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  6. They stopped all the cool stuff. by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I personally find little reason to go to RadioShack much anyways, they no longer have as much as the stuff I really wanted. Things like Audio and Video Adapters and cables are getting more and more slim, There IC selection is becoming non-existance. I can't find things like a basic Cable Tuner, Null Modem adapters and other adapters. When you walk in there are TVs Surround sound systems, Cell Phones, as their primary which I could get a better choices at a Circuit City, Best Buy, Rex, etc... stuff heck I had to hunt around until I could find a basic calculator. People go to radio shack for hand made electronics and custom configuration of their technology. I should be able to go in there and easily find a Stereo Splitter. So my old 5 speaker Surround sound system for my computer will work on my normal Stereo TV with all the speaker for 4 speaker Stereo. Or If I need a Cable Tuner to get an Old TiVo working like new again they should have some in stock. That use to be Radioshack value add. People may stop in once in a while to get Computers, Cellphones, or TVs for the bulk to their profit but the small stuff keeps many of the more technical people coming back and get the low end stuff and perhaps they will get an other High Margin product in the future.
    Also customer service has went to crap. While they are friendly and everything, when it comes to ask about stuff in the far corner like Is there any RJ45 Connectors aka Cat 5 connectors, I will get a Blank Stare. In the old days the people were far more knowable about all the products then just the top sellers.

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  7. Making stuff yourself??? by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are you nuts? People are too busy being at the mall or watching TV to do anything by themselves. Tinkering has become the pastime of penny pinchers and weirdos who can't or don't want to do what a good citizen does: CONSUME!

    Let's face it. Making stuff yourself gets out of fashion. Remember, kids, only commies make stuff themselves, a good consumer buys it!

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    1. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, the problem is that the gap between "what you can do at home" and "what's useful" has opened up tremenduously. 20 years ago you could actually, given a few parts and lots of time, build your own computer, and it wouldn't be TOO much behind an off the shelf computer. You could probably even use the same software.

      Today, even if you did get all the necessary ICs, you could not create the prints at home (or, rather, most people couldn't), you can't solder them in (unless you have very special equipment), you simply cannot build a computer at home anymore.

      What you can do is buy the parts and put them together. It's kinda like the (new) Lego. The NEW Lego, where you get like 10 parts that "need some assembly". Not the good, old one, that let you build what YOU wanted to build.

      Yes, today we can still "tinker" at least on our software. I just fear that this is going to be over very soon, too. And I kinda don't think it will take another 20 years until this is gone as well, and we're relegated to consumer status on our computers, with little chance to ever become any more than that.

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  8. Educaton is not always that important. by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The reason why they probably never checked his education is because It was not not the most important part of his Resume. In real life Education is only a minor factor, especially when you get more experience. When you are staring out Education is a major factor because you don't have much to go on. But when you go further it becomes less important, unless you plan to switch paths, like say you have a BS and you want to get into management so you get an MBA. That way you can show the hirers that you are not just a Tech Egg Head and you have some business knowledge as well. But If you were able to work your way up in a company with a GED and proved yourself valuable (Bill Gates never graduated from college) then you could be work more then a person with degrees up to the kazoo. Sometimes I see people who may Flash their PHD in Engineering at me to show how smart they are, except they call me to fix the problem with their primary program when windows is putting up a little bubble on the screen saying you have loss network connection. So I tell them the program doesn't work without a network connection, then they just flash their degrees at me.
    In Business degrees and education usually says the person was able to stick it out for at least 2,4,6,8 years and get a degree and they have the building blocks to learn to do the job. But when you start getting experience then that counts for so much more.
    As for Lying about your education what that does is makes it easy to fire you for lying on your Resume if they don't want you. But they are not going to take the effort and check it unless they need a good reason.

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    1. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Gee, you don't have a chip on your shoulder or anything. Perhaps because the PHDs you mention are too busy studying things that you, who does not have a college education, could never do. They are also getting paid much more than you because your skill level, being able to fix network connections, is something that a kid in high school can do.

      You can continue to sit on your high horse and keep changing my oil and running cat 5 cable as a lowly tech support peon. I'll work less hours on cooler projects for more money.

      Maybe you can learn job skills after being employed for a long time, but people with an education get a higher starting salary because they already have a skillset.

      GG.

    2. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by dr_dank · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I hold that this is an unrecognized/unacknowleged form of discrimination and bigotry. Experience and ability should be the primary--if not only--criteria in hiring, not race, sex or orientation thereof--or education.

      Whoa. Race, sex, nationality, and so forth are entirely separate from education since they're what the person is. Unless you're Michael Jackson or a eunuch, you can't change those things and its rightly illegal to discriminate on those lines (AA quotas aside). Education is something you CAN change. It shows an employer that you set your mind to a goal and stuck it out until you got your degree, learning relevant info and getting liberal arts education along the way. 40-50 years ago, you could walk out of high school and land a decent manufacturing job or other such gig with the right hookup. Today, the deck is stacked against you if you follow that route, unless you're heading for a trade school or to the service sector.

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    3. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by jellomizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm one of the top programmers in the world.

      Like all the other programmers out there.
      We all feel like we are the best programmer in the world because programming is much like Art, very sugestive. While we can tell the difference from a good programmer and a bad one fairly easilly. (If the program works or not, or they get stuck a lot when making a program, like many into to CS students are), I can write programs that may do the same things as an other good programmer, most likely including you. My method my be different and I may choose different tradeoffs, but still I usually can get any possible program to work if given to me and enough time allocated to it. But every programmer is like that. We could debate difference until the cows come home but like art it is sugestive. Is execution speed more important then development time, is Good User interface better then more features... we all program differently and when ever we read someone elses code we go to ourselfs this guy is nuts what is he thinking he could make it better by doing this... And I bet if I read your code, mr. Wolds best programmer I would say the same thing. I have never stood in Aw of someone elses program. Ill commend their work and effort put into it, but I have never saw some code and went gee I could never do that.

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  9. Re:I Hate RadioShack by unitron · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Radio Shack is the Wal-Mart of electronics. They carry enough parts to keep anyone else who would carry a greater selection out of the local market.

    That, combined with the trend in consumer electronics to go from expensive but repairable to cheap but unfixable (can't get parts, can't get service manuals), means that where I live we've gone from two competing "parts houses" (where service technicians used to get tubes and transistors and such) to none.

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  10. RadioShack = Dollar store of electronics by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you want to turn around profits, then stop selling the house-brand crappy electronics that are made in China that you can buy at a Dollar Store for a buck (but RadioShack sells for $20). People recognize quality when they see it, and RadioShack doesn't represent quality.

    Even the name brands they sell tend to be the low end economy models that Sony, Panasonic, etc will sell at Walmart or grocery stores, of course for a far cheaper price then RadioShack.

    There may have been a time when you can pass off a cheap Chinese boom box for $100, and that is when RadioShack raked in the money, but these days people are a little more discriminating in the quality of electronics they buy, and RadioShack hasn't offered those better quality products. They still insist on selling that cheap Chinese boom boxes for $100.

    RadioShack should simply refocus on selling batteries and remote control cars, its about all they do well. Stop trying to sell cheap home theater and stereo equipment and televisions, drop computers period, and focus on smaller electronic gadgets that you can't find elsewhere. Either that, our start offering high end stuff you can't find anywhere else, open up a niche market that walmart, Best Buy and Target can't touch.

    Just, don't go on as business as usual. It obviously isn't working, and those no-name brands you keep carrying and selling for the same price as name brands are not making you money.

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  11. Re:I Hate RadioShack by Starker_Kull · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That USED to be the beauty of the place, a long time ago. Fry's has taken what little electronic hobbist store business there is, and the rest is all by catalog, sadly. I don't think there are enough electronic hobbists in the U.S. today to support a nationwide chain of stores catering to that. Someone or ones in Radio Shack management came to that conclusion back in the 80's after the PC market consolidated (remember the Trash-80?), and the chain has tried to remake itself into a mass market cheap electronic gadget distributor ala Best-Buy and P.C. Richard, replacing employees who knew how to fix and build things with the "You want fries with that?" crowd. It has to date failed rather miserably at this task, which relys on massive stores with room for both inventory and selection of "consumer electronics" and doesn't give a rat's ass about hobbists any more.

    At least, that's my perception of them here in New England and in my frequent visits to Texas...

  12. Once Upon A Time(tm)... by ursabear · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...Radio Shack had parts and adaptors and other things that you just couldn't get anywhere. There were zillions of times I went to Radio Shack to get some bizarre audio adaptor - and not only would they have what I needed, they'd have three different types that would do the job.

    Ever wired a commercial audio job at some remote site in East Belt Buckle [insert state here]? In the middle of the job, there was always some part needed, or something that would not work right - and even East Belt Buckle would have a Radio Shack - problem solved...

    Spin the time machine to the present... the CEO isn't quite what was sold to the company... The product line is thin, cheap, and out of step with the times. The sales clerks demand your life's personal information if you want to buy a $.25 resistor or some wire, or if your wife just went there to buy an odd-size battery. They are not in the consciousness of the public (along the lines of CompUSA, Best Buy, Circuit City, et. al.). Their prices are not anything to write home about. Their hours are generally not as flexible as the Huge Mart stores against which they compete. And to top it all off, the cool little DIY parts are getting so thin that you can't go to RS and dream up a little cool electronic thing any more.

    Earth to Radio Shack: Do more than get rid of one or two brass... Figure out what America is after and then adapt to that. I don't like to nay-say the health of a company, but even I can see that Radio Shack has become the Kodak(TM) Instant Film and the 8-Track superstore that no-one needs it to be.

  13. Re:What's education got to do with it? by Fred_A · · Score: 2, Insightful

    OTOH why they'd care that the company's CEO had or hadn't a degree in theology is completely beyond me.

    What did they expect him to do, exorcise the financial reports ?

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  14. And cool stuff could be a lucrative niche by ke4roh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They just can't have a store in every shopping mall.

    If they would consolidate their stores and put one or two in each metro area, focusing on the hobbyist by providing the integrated circuits, connectors, switches, project boxes, breadboards, and so forth, they would be in good shape. How much would you pay for a handfull of 10k resistors if you needed 3 for a project? Talk about profit margin! They won't make money on cell phone plans, TV sets, cordless phones, or Tandy computers. They have a reputation for selling junk. But for parts, it's the place to go (except that they quit selling the cool parts...)

    Heck, they used to have some cool project books. They could send people project ideas by e-mail and put them up on a web site. They could milk it for all it's worth...

    Oh, but I forget! We don't care about science (and to some extent, engineering) in this country. It's all about short-term gains, next quarter's profit, and so forth... Grumble, grumble.

    So yes, they could be cool if they wanted. I don't think they really want to earn my business.

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  15. Radio Shack = Cellphone store by TheSync · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I stopped going to RadioShack very often when it became a cellphone store.

    You would go into the store, and the one or two people working there would be on the phone busy trying to get someone's cellphone service working. You would wait for 20 minutes to check out. They didn't care if you were buying $10 of stuff, since they were in the process of selling $100 cellphones plus the monthly service.

    The ironic thing is that despite leaving the chip selling business, RadioShack is one of the few places you can drop by and pick up a wire wrap tool and wire wrap wire. But I need to do that once or twice a year.

    R/S has no differentiator now. If you want a cellphone, the carriers have their own stores that are better staffed and more familiar with the products. If you want home electronics, it is hard to beat Best Buy, and for that matter the low-end stuff is at Target as well. The one differentiator of R/S in the past was the electronics parts, which have been gutted.

  16. Chihuahuas and CEOs by typical · · Score: 2, Insightful

    educational background has little relevance to one's capabiltiy of doing many corporate jobs.

    The problem is not that the guy didn't have whatever degree he said he had.

    The problem is that he lied to the company about it.

    A long time ago, there was someone who had blogged about applying for some kind of very sensitive job at the FBI (or maybe it was the NSA) posting about the interview process. The point is that they asked all kinds of seemingly senseless questions, mixed with questions that he considered invasive and not relevant to the job. "Have you ever put a finger inside your anus for sexual pleasure" and things like that. Someone else said that they were familiar with the process and the interviewer didn't really care about the answers -- they just wanted to see whether when the person was under intense pressure, they'd start trying to lie. So a failing response to "have you ever had sex with a dog" would be "Err....heh...well, not as such" with the lie detector going off and a passing one "Hell, yes. I fucked a Chihuahua five years ago in Mexico City and it was *great*!"). If the interviewer's take is that the candidate is lying on any of the questions, they pass on them. I've no idea as to the accuracy of the posts; however, it certainly struck me as an interesting approach.

    If someone starts lying to their employer when they think it's to their benefit to do so, the employer loses the ability to trust them. Better to have a slightly worse employee whose statements can be trusted than one who might do a good job but produces useless status information when backed into a corner. Because there *will* be times when people are scared to tell the truth "Is this project done?" "Are you going to make deadline?" etc but it really, really matters that the people above them get accurate information from them.

    His lack of success as CEO can just as easily be explained by a) inheriting a mess, b) lack of board support, and c) not the right man for the job.

    Or just that CEOs are used as scapegoats. They know about this when getting hired, and this is why the golden parachutes.

    As long as the company does well, the CEO can interview with Fortune and so forth to build his reputation. However, if it goes downhill, the company *will* blame things on this one guy, fire him, hire another CEO, incur steep "one-time restructuring costs" to "implement the new guy's ideas", and with the costs they've shifted to that quarter, be able to report profitability immediately after getting the new CEO.

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  17. Radio Shack should pounce on microcontrollers by xtal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's a H U G E market for cheap 8 bit microcontrollers now that you can get a little computer for the price of a latte', and you can do a lot of near things with them very easily. There's loads of related things like robotics that they missed out on too - how many people have any idea where to get a motion controller, or a servo motor?

    Makes you think.

    Then there's the whole embedded linux thing!

    Radio Shack turned their back on hobbiests; I probably owe my EE degree to Forrest Mimms and his great books that radio shack distributed in the 80's. Now they sell cheap crap from China and Cell Phones.

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