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Jackson Comments On Gaming, Kong Sequel
GameDailyBiz has a piece detailing comments from Peter Jackson on next-gen gaming, and the possibility of another King Kong title. From the article: "'It'll be very interesting when a filmmaker creates a video game-based film experience that goes beyond what people thought it could be,' continued Jackson, who is executive producing the Halo film with special effects from the brilliant WETA team. 'For example, music videos were originally just musicians playing music while being recorded on video so people could watch them, but now they are elaborate short movies that do everything from interpret the song through the medium of visual art to communicating political statements.'"
Mind you, King Kong vs Godzilla I could stand. Although given the Empire State turn of events, that would rather have to be a prequel wouldn't it...
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Ian
Lets beat that dead horse. Didn't make enough money off King Kong compared to LOTR, so lets franchise it to death. Perhaps the next King Kong game will actually be beta tested so that you can actually see it playing on next gen consoles.
I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
Easy to say since most of the previous game-to-movie adaptions were utter shit... We're not expecting anything anymore.
It's good to see a major player in Hollywood acknowledge that games are still in the infancy of their role as a medium. Every time we have another person like Jackson weighing in on the side of games as a legitimate source of entertainment and expression, we get a little closer to the media putting an end to their projected ignorance and real public understanding.
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> For example, music videos were originally just musicians playing music while being recorded on video.
This is wrong.
Early music videos/films include "Strawberry Fields Forever" by The Beatles which wsa the fab four being arty in a field.
The canonical "first" music video was "Bohemian Rhapsody" by Queen which heralded the mega-bucks music videos of Duran Duran, and the launch of MTV. The Eighties bands competed with each other to be more and more extravagant.
Live performance videos are really just a cheapskate way to make a video. The artists and not the record company pay for their own promotion, including having any videos comissioned. Decent directors for music videos command a high fee and film making in general is expensive if it is on a commercial basis. (and add 15% if you need liability insurance for your shoot).
You don't get much $ for having your video played on MTV, I think I got $150 for the two I had played on MTV Europe (albeit at 1am Sunday =)
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Just get busy making the Hobbit, please.
~*~ Tara
Does it sound like it'd take that much to push this guy's imagination, though, anyway? Does any of this sound especially amazing to anyone? He lauds new consoles not because of anything new they do, but because they're technically faster. (Ooh, life-line actors.) His ideas about interactive stories don't seem as open-ended as, say, the "Fallout" RPGs.
I guess it doesn't amaze me to see him hinting at a sequel as the parting shot teaser for this article... Oh joy, a sequel to your movie tie-in game.
(For that matter about halfway through the "Fellowship" movie I got pretty sick of the screaming CGI orcs. But leave that alone.)
"Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
The difference between current and next-gen games is significantly reduced relative to the leaps of generations past. It's possible we've reached a critical juncture of gaming evolution, where the next step in video games require not so much advances in rendering graphics and quality sound, but in interfacing specifically.
That's why Nintendo's experiment with their controller is risky and interesting. Ultimately, gaming has matured - for the most part, genres are cemented and experience evolutionary tweaks that refine a preexisting gaming experience. The next step involves interfacing, i.e. how the gamer interacts with the game.
We respond with our eyes, ears, and tactile sense now. But what happens when we can control our characters the way we control our own bodies - i.e. with a direct neural interface? When we feel the pain of a bullet or are rewarded with a rush of endorphins? The next step in gaming is to eliminate the obvious disconnect between the real experience and virtual one. The direct neural interface - brain-gaming is going to be the next killer ap. brain-gaming - brain-teaching - how quickly can you teach a child using direct interfacing mapped onto their brains?
I'm not sure how many generations away from this we are - but I can imagine that this world is an amazingly different place.
How about this: imagine a company that makes its money by inserting a neural interface in free ranging tigers - the neural interface can be mapped to any person so you can briefly experience what it feels like to be a tiger - or another interface that allows you to control the tiger remotely, become the tiger.
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I know King Kong was hyped... the video game was hyped... and they both lasted about the same amount of time, but I enjoyed the few hours I got to play King Kong. Sure, spearing your way through 16,712 bats, caterpillars, and tiny-dinos got repetitive and was ridiculously easy, but I like to think of it as foreplay. You spend the majority of your time doing a tedious repetitive action and then as a reward, you get some quality time with your furry prize. In this case, that just so happens to be a 25 foot gorilla. But man, was using flying elbow drops and shoulder charges to kill "V" Rexes awesome. And smashing through a city, although brief and linear, was tons o' fun. So Petey, if you'll give us more monkey in the sequel, and less whiney screenplay writer, we'll keep playing.
If video games are created by teams of designers and artists, how are they not art??? www.skylarscaling.com
dude, the film has grossed $542,681,518 worldwide.
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This is the real article .The story linked to is a summary of the original article.Why would you link to an article that links to the original interview?
First thing first, who says he can direct for gods sake. Inlcuding SEVERAL MINUTES of characters walking across the mountains (LOTR) is not smart directing, making a movie 3 hours long in average doesn't make the movie any better.
Second, who liked King Kong?, it sucked from minute one, having Jack Black as the star was a major error.
Somebody make him a favor and tell him to get off showbusiness before is too late.
Sure I'm not a movie director but I'm more important than that, I'm a consumer, the one that pays and contributes to these guys way of living, I'm their fucking boss like it or not, stand up and fight this kind of crap.
Just get busy making the Hobbit, please.
It won't happen until at least 2024 in Canada, and then you won't get to see it in the United States until 2033 or in Europe and Australia until 2044. I seem to remember reading that Tolkien Enterprises is not likely to authorize film prequels because Christopher Tolkien didn't like the story changes in the 2000s film adaptation of The Lord of the Rings.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Seriously, Kong wasnt that bad,it was decent for a monster movie, but thats that. Everybody knows the next King Konk movies SUCKED big time, purely sticking to the success of the first, no one wants to see them EVER again.
What about enders game? the hobbit, Halo (he is producing it anyway) even a remake of Excalibur (which is almost on the line of LOTR anyway) are much better ideas , Hell! why not a new script? Why do they even have to make remakes of old movies or books? Peter Jackson is ultra famous, he gets to put his name in the poster of the movie (and the name of the game based on the movie) and attract people with it!
Go ahead MOD my day!
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>> or another interface that allows you to control the tiger remotely, become the tiger.
Never give a psychopath control of a tiger!
Ugh, I know it must seem like a pedantic point to some, but his role as "Executive Producer" is much less interesting than some of us would like to believe. So far, Jackson has usually been the director, producer, and/or screenwriter for all of his movies. With "Executive Producer" the role implies a certain kind of vagueness. Usually, it means they deal with the business side of the film (financing) although they sometimes can leave their own imprint on things (for example, Bruckheimer and CSI). It doesn't mean Halo is his next movie, it doesn't even mean he's very artistically involved with it. At best, we'll see some Jackson-esque touches, at worst he was just paid a lot of money to have his name attached to the film and just occasionally acts as a go-between the different parties.
As far as the article? Jackson says "I definitely see improved graphics and sound as continuously positive attributes for consideration among the Hollywood community. Actors will look more 'life-like' in HD and the sound continues to get closer to the theatrical movie experience." If he had used the terms "rich medium" or "consumer-centric" I could've gotten Bingo on this Buzzwords Bingo tablet I have. It's also a dead giveaway that the interview was done via email, not by phone or in-person.
Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.
a cage match between Kong, Mecha-Kong, and Ali G :-)
"Creativity is allowing ones self to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep" - Scott Adams
Honestly, Jackson personifies what is wrong with the current state of Hollywood. A graduate of the George Lucas school of filmmaking (BIGGER IS ALWAYS BETTER), he decided the best way to follow up a movie trilogy lasting 12+ hours was to remake an 88 minute movie about a giant ape into a THREE HOUR EPIC.
Please, give me a break. We all know you're good with a camera. Now try to learn about telling a story with some efficiency. If your movie is going to be nothing but 3 hours of Weta jerking themselves off on film, why not just make your movie a video game and be done with it?
Oh, wait, they did make Kong into a game, and it was so good and so immersive in ways the movie never could have been (especially in HD + 5.1) that after playing, I don't care if I EVER see the movie. If I'm going to watch a three hour movie, it better be more than just "kill/evade exotic beasts on a remote island, reach the boss lair, save the princess." If that's your storyline, what you have is a video game, not a movie.
Now, I'll wait for all the slashtrolls to come out and wave all the money Kong made in my face; as if that's any measure of the product's actual quality.
Or better yet, why not use those brain-scan beams the NSA is using to detect terrorist intentions at the Superbowl? You could wire the signals right into another person's brain for interperetation. Later it could be commercialized and they could wire it into movie cameras. Instead of just watching John Malkovitch, you could try being John Malkovitch....
Uh... never mind. That would suck.
Hmmm... Sucks... http://www.google.com/search?q=teledildonics
--- Nothing clever here: move along now...
I may be able to experience games that even I can't imagine.
Sweet! A game console that dispenses hallucinogenic drugs directly into your bloodstream.
Now, I'll wait for all the slashtrolls to come out and wave all the money Kong made in my face; as if that's any measure of the product's actual quality.
Jackson did Kong because he could, and not for any other reason. It was like a director masturbating on film, and us just lapping it up. And I liked it a lot.
But, if you want to see Jackson as his story-telling best, watch _Heavenly Creatures_. If you are human, you will be stunned about the time the credits start rolling. Amazing movie. Just fucking amazing.
LOTR was good, no doubt about it. Perhaps a bit self-indulgent (though no Kong), but good. Jackson has already proven himself a spare story-teller; now he's just showing off.
I can't blame him one bit.
I guess I'll have to get the Kong game, based on your recommendation.
Microsoft is to software what Budweiser is to beer.
i don't know why you're down on the man for lacking originality, his forte is artful interpretation of high quality source material, something he has done far better than 99% of the other people that mine books/real life events for their art, but a fount of originality he neither is nor has claimed to be
Seriously, Kong wasnt that bad,it was decent for a monster movie, but thats that. Everybody knows the next King Konk movies SUCKED big time, purely sticking to the success of the first, no one wants to see them EVER again.
Jeez, no kidding. Talk about exploitation in the worst way possible; take a cheesy '70s movie based on a cheesy (but very influential) '30s movie, and make some terrble derivative pap.
However, I think he's referring to a video game sequel, not a movie sequel. Peter Jackson has more integrity than *that*.
I hope.
Microsoft is to software what Budweiser is to beer.
"I like your money. Please send me more so that I may rehash something else and take credit for it as my own."
At least Halo won't be directed by Uwe Boll. Finally a good title that I won't suddenly need to hate because of a lacklustre bigscreen spinoff. If WETA is involved, and Jackson is willing to stamp his name on it, at least it'll be worth watching for the production values.
...to get a wireless keyboard with a modified case that sits comfortably on your lap to market? i hope infinium sticks around a little longer, as the stories about them just keep getting more and more entertaining. if all slashdotters pitched in $5, think of the ammo we would have in the comment section for months to come! go infinium! go infinium!
Dude. Sounds like you're Overdrawn at the Memory Bank.
I'll go out on a small limb and predict that we will *never* have direct mind to game interfaces in the manner you describe. Directly manipulating the sensation of pain or level of endorphins? That's insane. Do you really want to play a game that would give you post-traumatic stress disorder?
Teaching children via mind-interface? Are you out of your mind? Our brains are extraordinarily complicated beings, capable of processing tons of information at once in a mechanism we aren't even close to understanding. Directly manipulating it would be like tuning a computer processor with a hammer.
I disagree with you. I not only think we will have direct mind to game interfaces, but as usual, porn will pave the way. Re: level of endorphins - we do it all the time - modulate our moods and endorphin levels with drugs, diet, exercise, etc. Feeling the cold when playing a winter scene or feeling the water when I wade through muck isn't likely to give me PTSD - nor is stimulating the olfactories to add to the experience.
Going to an athletic event might be more like paying to jack into your favorite player's neural net as opposed to just sitting courtside.
I know its going to happen.
We've just tapped the surface of the genome - but we're already swapping parts in and out - from species to species... upgrading and downgrading and organ-farming and the like. Humans will do it. It's what we do.
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After the second LOTR title, I decided it wasn't worth it to go back for Return of the King. Not only did Jackson introduce a whole lot of surfing-on-the-shield bozoness, he also spent roughly half of the first two movies shoving screaming CGI-ified orcs in my face. In particular his direction of dialog, which is hardly a strength of the Tolkien originals anyway, stunk like a wet sock drawer. My patience for declarative sentences -- "And so.... It Begins!" -- was at an all-time low after movie number two.
The real miracle with those movies wasn't Jackson, it was that someone shelled out the coin to make a well-produced version of the stories. The direction was mediocre at best.
For my money one director who really can make a difference would be Christopher Nolan, of "Memento" and "Following" indie reputation. I haven't seen "Batman Begins" or "Insomnia," but I'm curious because Nolan did stuff on a shoestring that Hollywood can't make happen by pouring money on projects.
Jackson's just a case of the money-pouring approach. His completely conventional comparisons between games and film here show that, again. Ooh, the new consoles are more powerful, so we can show more realistic looking actors...
"Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
I actually have high hopes for it. It's being co-written between the game writer and the writer of 28 Days Later and The Beach (which has a video-game dream sequence at the end). And the director is Guillermo del Toro who's did Hellboy and some other good films in Spain.
Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.