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IBM Germany Leaving Vista for Linux
UltimaGuy writes "During a presentation on IBM's involvement with Open Source, Andreas Pleschek from IBM in Stuttgart, Germany, who heads open source and Linux technical sales across North East Europe for IBM made a very interesting statement..."Andreas Pleschek also told that IBM has cancelled their contract with Microsoft as of October this year. That means that IBM will not use Windows Vista for their desktops. Beginning from July, IBM employees will begin using IBM Workplace on their new, Red Hat-based platform. Not all at once - some will keep using their present Windows versions for a while. But none will upgrade to Vista." "
heise a german news site has just published an articles saying IBM denied the claims http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/70532
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Remember IBM sold its consumer PC division to Lenovo, so this will only be on their high end workstations. Good for IBM for doing it, but not such a big deal.
All I can say is, it's about time!
s /product5.nsf/wdocs/workplaceoverview
http://www-142.ibm.com/software/workplace/product
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I believe this was said in terms of thier internal machines, not the deliverables.
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Did you RTFA? Or even TFS (the fucking summary)?
This is about INTERNAL desktops. i.e, IBM's employees will mostly be using Linux systems to do their day to day work. They can still recommend Windows to clients.
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But there is video.
Or this one in case the first is overloaded.
(Groklaw article where I took the links from is here.)
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"SuSE is redhat based" is it, really? Or do you think that since SUSE uses RPM's, it's "based on Red Hat"?
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Why do people insist on using THAT format? There's actually BETTER formats out there that are supported
officially on more than just Windows.
Ah well, that's a different argument, and I'll keep working that one elsewhere...
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As I understand it, the next Notes client will be an Eclipse-platform rich client. Here's an article about it
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It seems that the new IBM thing, Workplace has Notes running natively.
The problem for any corporation updating to Vista is that you rather have to replace most of your hardware along the way as well.
Really? Might want to double check that. Current mid range or higher cpu, 512MB ram (which I've been recommending for years now). You likely WON'T need a high end graphics card, because Areo doesn't come with the business versions of Vista. Actually I seem to recall people saying the exact same thing when windows XP came out. Hmm...
And upgrade your memory. Over on The Inquirer they're reporting that Vista consumes 800MB of RAM while idling.
Um, maybe because its a debug build of BETA software??? Let me give you a clue.. debug performance != release performance. The above link says that they recommend 512MB ram; I've been putting that much ram into my computers for about 4 years now.
This is absolutely insane to someone who first started using computers in the early 1970's.
Maybe you should stop living in the '70s then. People weren't exactly playing Doom3 on ANY computers in the '70s either, yet today many computers can. Who cares what requirements an OS needed in the 70s? We're in the 21st century now.
here just isn't that much stuff that an Operating System should be doing. And yes, that really is 3X XP's current requirements, the thought of which certainly is warming Intel's little heart.
Again, take a breath, and realize this is a beta version.
Seems to me if MS wants to keep IBM in the fold they should be offering to buy them all new desktops.
Ever think that MS isn't targeting older computers, they are targeting what is current today?
Actually SuSe was slackware based originally. I believe SuSe started as a german translation of Slackware and has since grown from there. There is more information on any of the History of SuSe web pages. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suse
As someoone that has previously been heavily involved with Remedy. Last time I checked there are now web agents that you can deploy and have no problems with. It may not have an agent for your products in use but it will be a matter of time for the most part.
Once you've got people running happily on those, you can then migrate people.
Close to 100% of desktops will play .mpgs, and they'll work on all major platforms with ease. You don't have to use "non-standard" codecs.
.wmv...It's like having an alternative browser site that won't render in Firefox unless you tweak thirty options.
The fact that it was a Linux-related event makes it even more ridiculous that they'd choose
Well, opengl on nvidia cards works extremely well. ATI cards are still a bit of a problem, but the situation is getting better.
I'm using the (cvs) development versions of dri and glx, and the improvement over the older drivers is substantial (in the order of 10-40% framerate increase depending on what you are running), not to mention initial rv300 support, which means newer cards become an option without needing the utter crap that ATI produces as drivers for Linux.
If you were referring to the official binary drivers from ATI, again, those are a pile of crap.
IBM has an internal distribution called the IBM openclient for linux, right now it's at pre-release 1.0 and it is redhat based. I think a lot of the reason they use it is because a lot of IBM products that run on linux are written with the understanding they they will probably be run on red hat enterprise linux 3.0 or 4.0. Since everyone in IBM that develops software or courseware is developing on RHEL, it is easy for the openclient team to use redhat, because everyone is familiar with it already.
And wmv doesn't play on AMD64. I know you can install the Windows win32 codecs in x86 systems (even though it's *bad*) but not on 64 bit players.
Or you have to setup 32 bit players with attached 32bit libs and the whole thing just becomes a huge mess...
Well, I'll just trust them that some IBM guy said whatever they did he said. Or something.
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Linux native notes exists now. In fact I'm running it (IBMer running Open Client). Works great.
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DeadRat legal made them change command line utility names (e.g., if it was redhat-do-foo they had to rename it to bar-do-foo), remove any reference to RedHat from the home page, and so forth. CentOS IS RHEL minus the trademarks.
Focus on modding up, not down, especially when someone is posting the truth. Sheesh.
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I just checked again, and couldn't find the char string "linux" in any of their product pages.
You cannot have looked very hard. Try starting from here.
Or are you looking at the Lenovo ThinkPad pages? IBM doesn't make desktop PCs or laptops anymore.
I can confirm that. I have some SuSE disks and stuff for 11/94 lying around somewhere, and it was mentioned in the manual that SuSE is based on Slackware - I think that reference was dropped later on, though. The 5.3 manual (ca. 7/98) mentions "special thanks" to Patrick Volkerding (he's listed right with Linus Torvalds), but does not state what for anymore. Slackware itself does not seem to be mentioned anymore, but I didn't look *that* hard.
Kinda sad that they're not honouring their roots more (but then, maybe things are different again now; 5.3 was actually the last SuSE version I bought).
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You can tell YaST to leave your config alone (not only globally, but also specifically for certain configs).
Also, you can tweak your configs with xy.local files (xy is the name of the corresponding config file), which will be read in addition to the YaST-generated xy file, and never be touched by YaST (I'm not sure if that's possible for all config files, though).
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Do you know how to read the windows task manager?
First, note 47 processes are running, and the screenshot doesn't mention which apps or processes are running. Heck, I've had firefox take up 350MB itself before.
Second, 800MB is including the filesystem share, if you look to the right under physical memory you will see they have 1 gig total and about 600 free. Which is exactly what my XP installation is saying right now with opera running and 35 processes.
Third, Vista (like XP) can run in classic mode with little visual effects and much less memory and speed requirements.
Fourth, I'm not sure about it (and have no data to prove it) but I believe windows doesn't even need most the memory it takes up, it just uses a bunch of it to pre-fetch programs. Win XP runs fine under 250mb, but even faster under 500mb (not sure if 1gig makes a difference).
hmm. i have set up a testing 10.0 suse box. i chose "hostnames" from yast and it saw my hand-made entry i had added with yast already running. supposedly all other yast modules should honour any additional changes in configuration files, at least it did with samba config and some other i have tried.
i haven't used/played around with suse long enough to know how old this behaviour is.
Rich