I've been using the IBM openclient for for e-business since the 1.0 pre-release. Most of my more technically adept coworkers have been as well. As of this writing we're at version 1.2. I haven't done any reinstallation of the operating system. This is just rpm upgrades over a period of maybe 2 years. I don't know that the 5% is accurate, and while I can't confirm that there are 16,000 of us on it yet, I can confirm that it is working, and I see no reason why it won't continue to work. Of everything that I need to accomplish as an IBM employee, nothing besides development and testing of IBM software in a windows environment, specifically requires the use of windows. I'm quite happy with the openclient.
you forget IBM has its own unix. AIX... Being a sun certified system administrator, sun certified network administrator and sun certified java programmer, I still have a hard time saying solaris is better than AIX. In fact, I think I'd have to call it a draw. Though I will admit, I like having the gnome desktop in solaris 10, CDE needs to go the way of the buffalo, in the same way they got rid of that other atrocious gui they had prior to the CDE standardization. AIX may not have gnome by default, but that green screen console command prompt gives it mucho retro cool points.
No the IBM openclient for linux (pre-release 1.0) is using a product called IBM Workplace which is basically eclipse with a notes plugin viewer. It's not too terrible, better than notes under wine.
IBM has an internal distribution called the IBM openclient for linux, right now it's at pre-release 1.0 and it is redhat based. I think a lot of the reason they use it is because a lot of IBM products that run on linux are written with the understanding they they will probably be run on red hat enterprise linux 3.0 or 4.0. Since everyone in IBM that develops software or courseware is developing on RHEL, it is easy for the openclient team to use redhat, because everyone is familiar with it already.
You know I hear this banter back and forth between Sun, IBM and HP. They all want the other to gpl something, but when it comes to their software cash cows (I'm not talking about the stuff they don't make any money off of) all I hear is chirping crickets. This "announcement" is nothing new, and frankly starting to bore me.
Censorship - China's the biggest promoter of this definition of "Governance", but there are other countries that also don't like free presses and uncontrolled websites reporting about them, typically implemented as a part of cracking down on other violations of public values such as pornography. The "Great Firewall of China" may not be very good at preventing PCs from becoming infected zombies that send spam and DDOS attacks, but they do retain some control over citizens' access to politically incorrect websites and restrictions on internet cafes.
NT4 existed for the alpha, but I don't recall it on the ppc. If my memory serves me correctly, this will be the first windows for ppc, or in my case linux-ppc on xbox hopefully!!
hah!! that's how I ruined my second computer(Atari 800XL). One minute the text was upside down the next minute I got my first lockup. Turned her off and back on, she never recovered. I always wanted a commodore 64 because they had better software but my 800xl was a superior machine at the time.
I'm no expert but as I recall the DMCA was sponsored by the Democrats. Also I recall recall Democrat congressman Adam Smith saying the free software philosophy is "problematic and threaten(s) to undermine innovation and security." Just because Dean's campaign manager is pro-open source doesn't mean anything's going to happen if he Dean gets into the white house. Even if he could persuade his fellows in the house and senate to follow his campaign manager's lead they still don't have the votes to affect a change. The house and senate are currntly under the control of the republicans.
I have a hard time believing that a democrat in the whitehouse is going to make that much difference when the house and senate are under the control of the republicans now.
How funny is this? Weren't the democrats the ones who sponsored the DMCA? I'm a democrat because it's the lesser of two evils, but the green party has supported the open source software movement for years now. As for Dean well, I've read interviews with all the candidates and well, he's just as bad as the others. I have one rule when I judge candidates, do they really answer the question put to them or do they sidestep it? I've come to the conclusion that I'm not always going to believe in everything a candidate believes in, but I'm more than willing to consider a candidate regardless of their beliefs if they decide to actually tell me. Dennis Kucinich is the only guy out there right now that actually answers the questions asked of him, but I guess that kind of personality is sure to keep you from being elected. As for Dean and his free software, I'm thinking it's mostly a publicity stunt.
I think the real test of how friendly HP is towards linux is not whether or not they sell linux on intel machines, but whether or not they sell it on their PA-RISC based systems. Selling on intel is no big deal, heck anyone can build an intel system. I don't know if they do or not.
I'd prefer sun hardware to x86 any day. X86 hardware is generally shoddy and breaks a lot. Sun hardware is expensive but generally there aren't any hardware maintenance costs. Buy sparc and install linux.
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And when Mono finishes implementing Windows.Forms...oh, man, I can't wait. Truly cross platform GUIs that will run native in each OS. It'll be great!
We've already got this in the gtk+. Heck I think they even have have C# class interfaces to the GtkObjects.
Well he could always have the song punched out on cards. It might be a little inconvenient for the winner to load the punch cards into his computer memory. I guess he could print out the hex code and ship that to the winner, then if the winner has an OCR scanner that wouldn't be to difficult to reconvert to the original file.
When divx went commercial, I stayed with version 4, Now I use Xvid. Ogg Theara is a definite possibility, but until they have an actual release, I'll stay with xvid.
Oh wow I pissed someone off. I am aware of the history of Qt and GTK+, there's no need for a lesson. I've used the qt library in the past but I choose not to use them now. I use java, C and C++ at work. My memory's not what it used to be but I seem to recall GNU coding standards saying something about using C. What I look for in a library gui or otherwise is, how compatible is across different architectures? I've had GTK+ running on windows, solaris, freebsd, openbsd, linux(x86 & ultrasparc) and it didn't cost me any money. There's a good reason to use gtk+ over qt, even if it does take a little more work. Sorry I got your dander up.
You're right, the guy was biased, but it was obvious he was biased based on FUD and didn't spend the time to really research Trolltech. There are a lot of reasons to be suspicious of Trolltech, from their relationship with SCO, their licensing issues and the way they handle the open source community. The fact is they're probably indebted to the open source community, KDE keeps that company alive. I'm not saying the tech is bad, it's great if you're a C++ programmer, but doesn't the community at large regard development in C as the standard?
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I've been using the IBM openclient for for e-business since the 1.0 pre-release. Most of my more technically adept coworkers have been as well. As of this writing we're at version 1.2. I haven't done any reinstallation of the operating system. This is just rpm upgrades over a period of maybe 2 years. I don't know that the 5% is accurate, and while I can't confirm that there are 16,000 of us on it yet, I can confirm that it is working, and I see no reason why it won't continue to work. Of everything that I need to accomplish as an IBM employee, nothing besides development and testing of IBM software in a windows environment, specifically requires the use of windows. I'm quite happy with the openclient.
you forget IBM has its own unix. AIX... Being a sun certified system administrator, sun certified network administrator and sun certified java programmer, I still have a hard time saying solaris is better than AIX. In fact, I think I'd have to call it a draw. Though I will admit, I like having the gnome desktop in solaris 10, CDE needs to go the way of the buffalo, in the same way they got rid of that other atrocious gui they had prior to the CDE standardization. AIX may not have gnome by default, but that green screen console command prompt gives it mucho retro cool points.
No the IBM openclient for linux (pre-release 1.0) is using a product called IBM Workplace which is basically eclipse with a notes plugin viewer. It's not too terrible, better than notes under wine.
IBM has an internal distribution called the IBM openclient for linux, right now it's at pre-release 1.0 and it is redhat based. I think a lot of the reason they use it is because a lot of IBM products that run on linux are written with the understanding they they will probably be run on red hat enterprise linux 3.0 or 4.0. Since everyone in IBM that develops software or courseware is developing on RHEL, it is easy for the openclient team to use redhat, because everyone is familiar with it already.
You know I hear this banter back and forth between Sun, IBM and HP. They all want the other to gpl something, but when it comes to their software cash cows (I'm not talking about the stuff they don't make any money off of) all I hear is chirping crickets. This "announcement" is nothing new, and frankly starting to bore me.
I for one welcome our new chinese overlords..
NT4 existed for the alpha, but I don't recall it on the ppc. If my memory serves me correctly, this will be the first windows for ppc, or in my case linux-ppc on xbox hopefully!!
hah!! that's how I ruined my second computer(Atari 800XL). One minute the text was upside down the next minute I got my first lockup. Turned her off and back on, she never recovered. I always wanted a commodore 64 because they had better software but my 800xl was a superior machine at the time.
too bad the QT libraries aren't available under the gpl for as many platforms as the gtk or I bet we'd all switch.
Agreed, though I think Stallman gets accused of being a communist more than marx or lenin ;-)
Whether you like him or not, it seems like he should have made it in at least the top 50. I mean sheesh if the soBig guy gets in there, why not RMS?
I'm no expert but as I recall the DMCA was sponsored by the Democrats. Also I recall recall Democrat congressman Adam Smith saying the free software philosophy is "problematic and
threaten(s) to undermine innovation and security." Just because Dean's campaign manager is pro-open source doesn't mean anything's going to happen if he Dean gets into the white house. Even if he could persuade his fellows in the house and senate to follow his campaign manager's lead they still don't have the votes to affect a change. The house and senate are currntly under the control of the republicans.
I have a hard time believing that a democrat in the whitehouse is going to make that much difference when the house and senate are under the control of the republicans now.
How funny is this? Weren't the democrats the ones who sponsored the DMCA? I'm a democrat because it's the lesser of two evils, but the green party has supported the open source software movement for years now. As for Dean well, I've read interviews with all the candidates and well, he's just as bad as the others. I have one rule when I judge candidates, do they really answer the question put to them or do they sidestep it? I've come to the conclusion that I'm not always going to believe in everything a candidate believes in, but I'm more than willing to consider a candidate regardless of their beliefs if they decide to actually tell me. Dennis Kucinich is the only guy out there right now that actually answers the questions asked of him, but I guess that kind of personality is sure to keep you from being elected. As for Dean and his free software, I'm thinking it's mostly a publicity stunt.
I think the real test of how friendly HP is towards linux is not whether or not they sell linux on intel machines, but whether or not they sell it on their PA-RISC based systems. Selling on intel is no big deal, heck anyone can build an intel system. I don't know if they do or not.
reboots the system... it's odd, we've had to tape off those keys and put a note on the monitor.
I'd prefer sun hardware to x86 any day. X86 hardware is generally shoddy and breaks a lot. Sun hardware is expensive but generally there aren't any hardware maintenance costs. Buy sparc and install linux.
And when Mono finishes implementing Windows.Forms...oh, man, I can't wait. Truly cross platform GUIs that will run native in each OS. It'll be great! We've already got this in the gtk+. Heck I think they even have have C# class interfaces to the GtkObjects.
Well he could always have the song punched out on cards. It might be a little inconvenient for the winner to load the punch cards into his computer memory. I guess he could print out the hex code and ship that to the winner, then if the winner has an OCR scanner that wouldn't be to difficult to reconvert to the original file.
Of course mine boarded years ago. I still have my trusty ultrasparc 5.
shhh... quit giving away our secrets!!! actually, I've never been very good at using swat. I just vi the smb.conf.
It was a terrible sci-fi series made by Sam Raimi. Let's hope this turns out better.
When divx went commercial, I stayed with version 4, Now I use Xvid. Ogg Theara is a definite possibility, but until they have an actual release, I'll stay with xvid.
Oh wow I pissed someone off. I am aware of the history of Qt and GTK+, there's no need for a lesson. I've used the qt library in the past but I choose not to use them now. I use java, C and C++ at work. My memory's not what it used to be but I seem to recall GNU coding standards saying something about using C. What I look for in a library gui or otherwise is, how compatible is across different architectures? I've had GTK+ running on windows, solaris, freebsd, openbsd, linux(x86 & ultrasparc) and it didn't cost me any money. There's a good reason to use gtk+ over qt, even if it does take a little more work. Sorry I got your dander up.
You're right, the guy was biased, but it was obvious he was biased based on FUD and didn't spend the time to really research Trolltech. There are a lot of reasons to be suspicious of Trolltech, from their relationship with SCO, their licensing issues and the way they handle the open source community. The fact is they're probably indebted to the open source community, KDE keeps that company alive. I'm not saying the tech is bad, it's great if you're a C++ programmer, but doesn't the community at large regard development in C as the standard?