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What Would Be Your Ideal Futuristic Home?

deman1985 asks: "As the owner of a small commercial and home integration company, I'm exposed to a wide variety of customers with differing tastes and needs. I'll get requests for anything from the ordinary audio distribution systems and full home theater systems, to downright bizarre requests like having bubble baths run automatically, when they walk in the door. However, the vast majority of customers I encounter are not technologically inclined and are more interested in simplicity rather than impressiveness. What would your ideal integrated home look like? What's the most unique feature you would like to see? If you had access to an unlimited budget, what would you spend money on to make your home stand out? Whole-house audio? Hidden video screens? Automatic locks? Do most people view home integration strictly as a toy for entertainment, or is the technology ready for prime time?"

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  1. Sustainability by under_score · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I love technology. My family has several laptops, desktops and we run a few servers as well. We have gadgets. But the thing about it all that bothers me, is that it is all dependent on the precarious infrastructure for power and telecom. I would love to have solar and wind power backup. I'd love to have redundant methods of communication, even going back to low-tech/old-tech radio systems. I'd also like to have local caches of reference materials such as wikipedia, about.com, CIA world factbook, etc. I'm not a survivalist freak, but I do find it painful when the power goes out for a few days at a time! It'd be nice to have some basic backups!

    1. Re:Sustainability by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 3, Interesting

      But the thing about it all that bothers me, is that it is all dependent on the precarious infrastructure for power and telecom. I would love to have solar and wind power backup.

      Get yerself an RTGs for your back up power needs.

    2. Re:Sustainability by Rei · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It is a BAD source of information

      Oh really?. Now, if you want a bad source of information...

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    3. Re:Sustainability by geekoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      wiki pedia is a GOOD reference.
      the problem with wikipedia is that it works in practice, but not in theory.

      Yes, 'hot' topics get modified, but over all it is really solid.

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  2. Wrong way for me. by AnonymousPrick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd want a small home(1,500 - 2,000 sq.ft.) on plenty of land (4+ acres) with trees. The only electronics I'd want is something that blocks anything wireless so I can have some peace and quiet for once. Also, I'd have an excuse for why I wasn't pestered by any phone calls...I mean, why I didn't get someone's call.

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    1. Re:Wrong way for me. by Rei · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Tech != electronics (at least not exclusively). I want pneumatic tubes to deliver items across the house, powered lifts, etc. ;)

      I wouldn't mind a bit of green tech, either - houses designed with big south facing windows and large eaves to let in lots of sunlight in the winter but little in the summer, perhaps solar water heating, perhaps a heat pump, perhaps a wind turbine if in a windy area, etc. For really esoteric, on a big house you could go with a solar thermal evaporative cooler/heater: noiseless, takes no power, and has no moving parts except for the fan; heating and cooling are done by the same device.

      As a gardener, an automated greenhouse would be neat (maintains temperature with opening and closing of flaps, and an internal heater if needed).

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    2. Re:Wrong way for me. by Carik · · Score: 4, Insightful

      1,500 - 2,000 square feet is NOT a small home. 750 - 1,100 square feet is a small home. My girlfiend and I are currently living in a condo that's nominally about 950 square feet, but a lot of that is taken up by stairs, walls, and poor planning. Call it maybe 800 square feet of usable living area, total. The only thing we really need more space for is long-term storage; winter storage for the bicycles, christmas ornaments, things like that. So... if you have a family, yes, you'll need at least 1,500 square feet. But if you don't have kids, why get such a big house? I'm looking at new places at the moment, and I'm finding that 1,200 or so is as much space as I need, as long as it has a basement or a barn for storing all the Stuff I'm not using at the moment.

    3. Re:Wrong way for me. by apt142 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I used to live in a house about 900 square feet. And I completely agree with you. For just a couple, it's fine if you've got it set up where it's working for you. If it's not set up however, it can be quite painful. I ended up moving because the storage areas consisted of two closet just large enough to stand in. And I was renting so there wasn't a lot of home improvements I could do to it.

      About two years ago we moved into a larger house (1300) and we thought we'd never use all the space in the house. It's funny, you find a way to use it. I'd equate the experience to a Hard drive. When you get one with more space, you just find more ways of filling it up.

  3. DUH! by amliebsch · · Score: 5, Funny

    What happens when you ask a bunch of nerds and engineers to collaborate on a home design? You get the DUH: Dilbert Ultimate House (Professional Edition).

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    1. Re:DUH! by SoCalDissident · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is modded as Funny, but the truth is the DUH actually has some pretty cool features, a few of which I plan on retrofitting to my place and incporporating if/when I get around to building a house.

    2. Re:DUH! by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Funny

      You put a very small sock on the cat-door doorknob.

      Duh.

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    3. Re:DUH! by Moofie · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ummmm...I don't think that's a sock.

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  4. Simplicity by s0l3d4d · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ideal home integration?
    Simplicity. Japanese style furniture, and few and selected furniture, and the stereos, hifi, etc would be simplistic as well. No TV - possibly a projector. Ideally Bose but any small and good sounding speakers, integrated with iPod. Integration with Airport Express should be easy - so can control the musics of all the rooms of the house by the computers (a few in different rooms or where needed).
    Actually, for TV needs now the computers do fine - mostly viewing movies anyway, and some cartoons with eyeTV.
    Lots of small lights in ceiling and on walls to get enough light on winter, and enough analog candles for the mood.
    And simple materials to keep it all timeless - such as white walls, dark wood, some stone, some metal, and selected details in bright colors.
    And the simplicity factor will make it more simple than now - there are 16 iPods in our house now ... probably could do with a bit less.

    1. Re:Simplicity by danlyke · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes! I see all of this stuff about monster technology and all the rest, and I'm realizing that even though I'm a nerd who has 5 computers in my living room, I've spent a lot of time getting as much of that stuff out of my house, or at least as unobtrusive, as possible. And those five computers are as hidden as I can make them (three are laptops, one is a small server in my stereo cabinet, the display for the desktop is an LCD in a bookshelf with a pull-out drawer for the keyboard and mouse). I want much of my furniture, especially anything holding computers or whatnot, to be fold away and to have blank faces when it's closed (I've already built myself such a workbench, it's just a large cabinet in my livingroom when I'm not working on stuff).

      Lots of shelves/cabinets and lots of storage, I've got gobs of projects and parts for projects, and I want to keep them organized and close to my life, but I don't want to have to have separate spaces for entertaining and for living, 'cause that's just spending money on half-used space. I haven't actually lived in or used a house with these amenities, but since a lot of projects seem to happen on the floor anyway, I think I'd like hatches or similar floor storage.

      However, no unnecessary nooks or hallways or connectors, I want my rooms rectangular, easy to clean, with simple openings between spaces. If the climate demands it (and most do), I like to compartmentalize the house for heating and cooling (and maybe here's your application for technology, a centralized place that I can say "heat the living room, let the dining room and bedroom sit at 50 degrees"), but I don't buy into this crap that some architects push about hallways to provide transition areas in between parts of the house. Make it a door or an opening with a curtain and be done with it.

      I don't need a large kitchen, but I want prep room on both sides of the stove, and a veggie sink as well as a clean-up sink. Whatever the entrance to the house, I want a little space, maybe just a few feet of hall, with shelves for shoes by the front door.

      Technology-wise, the only really geeky thing I want is a smarter cat door (Yes, I know about Flo Control, but I'd settle for "after dark, opens from the inside only"). I want room to run cables under the floor and through walls, as I'm sick of slap-dash phone/cable installations run under the siding around the outside of the house, and I want lots of power outlets, but I'm less concerned with built-in lights or any fancy technology to switch them; I'm fine with having desk lamps and similar per-application lamps. Don't build crap into the house, as it'll only be made obsolete (and this especially applies to lighting technologies right now). If you do have built in lights, they should be able to make that room like daylight; my alarm clock is currently a big bank of daylight balanced flourescents, and when that lights up the room I'm happy, even in the doldrums of the rainy season.

      I want good fitting doors, double-paned glass, good insulation (for conventional construction types, I'm interested in the folks doing 2x6 studs at 19.whatever centers, more room for insulation, cheaper materials costs). Yes, I know that a house needs to breathe, but let's make that a specific function of the design, not a byproduct of skimping on materials.

      And, if I go specific to my particular needs, parking for a bunch of bicycles out of the elements, including long ones (tandem/recumbent).

  5. Infrastructure would please me... by debest · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wouldn't want a complete turn-key solution, I'd want to have the infrastructure in place so that I could tinker as I chose.

    My new house would have a wiring closet/server room that would be the electronic equivalent of the furnace/AC/water heater room. There would be racks and/or cabinets for various computers and A/V equipment. The room would be properly ventilated. The house would be wired to hell and back before walls went up.

    Then leave me to my devices. I'll handle the rest!

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    1. Re:Infrastructure would please me... by MindStalker · · Score: 3, Funny

      And you'd NEVER have everything working right, as you'd be constantly taking it apart and redesigning it. Your a gentoo user arn't you?

    2. Re:Infrastructure would please me... by debest · · Score: 3, Funny

      you'd NEVER have everything working right, as you'd be constantly taking it apart and redesigning it

      Very probably correct!

      Your a gentoo user arn't you?

      Absolutely correct! My answer isn't the one the OP wanted, but it my answer to the question he asked. I'm a tinkerer, and that's the way I like it!

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    3. Re:Infrastructure would please me... by Kadin2048 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Really what you'd want is a lot of conduit running throughout the house, preferably metallic stuff, and run totally independent of the power lines. End-run it all back to some central place, like a corner of the basement or a big server closet, and you'd be able to run anything you wanted. Analog audio, coax, twisted-pair, fiber ... Just remember to leave a bunch of pull lines in the conduit.

      Frankly what most geeks want, I think, is a home that's built more like a commercial or industrial structure. Raised-flooring or double-hung cielings, for instance, aren't exactly aesthetically pleasing but make network installation a lot easier than it is in the typical home. My rationale would be this: sure, raised flooring and exposed metal conduit aren't seemly, but they're a lot better than having an exposed tangle of wires, and that's the alternative if you build homes the typical way (with the wires laid in holes bored in the wall studs).

      Actually I've always thought the ultimate geek dwelling would just be a single floor of some old industrial buidling; someplace where you could hang cable trays directly from exposed cieling beams. (Not to mention 3-ph 480V power, for when you pick up that surplus Cray on eBay.)

      I guess if you go down that route, you'd pretty much have to give up on ever getting laid there, though.

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    4. Re:Infrastructure would please me... by whydna · · Score: 2, Interesting
    5. Re:Infrastructure would please me... by njh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Audio in the walls is notorious for its poor performance. If you are serious about audio quality build some of Martin King's mass loaded transmission lines or similar. I built mine for about $200 each (including drivers, wood work and time), and everyone who's heard them has gone and built them too.

      http://www.quarter-wave.com/

      Otherwise I agree with you. Do you have an examples of your server closet stuff? I'm pondering where and how to do this myself.

    6. Re:Infrastructure would please me... by Cyno01 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Actually I've always thought the ultimate geek dwelling would just be a single floor of some old industrial buidling; someplace where you could hang cable trays directly from exposed cieling beams. (Not to mention 3-ph 480V power, for when you pick up that surplus Cray on eBay.)
      Wow, you just described exactly what i would do if i won the lottery. Buy some old 5 story warehouse, the kind with a ton of little windows (GIS warehouse windows, idk if theres a proper name for them). I'd just gut it, live on the top floor and do i dont know what with the rest of it. Personal parking garage and skate park maybe...
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  6. Keep it simple... by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A touch screen near the door that allowed me to walk in, and pick from a simple list of pre-programmed profiles for lights, music, and TV.

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    1. Re:Keep it simple... by pjp6259 · · Score: 2, Informative


      A machine learning professor at University of Colorado built a Adaptive Neural Network House that learns from his behavior. It learns when to turn lights on and off, heating and cooling, radio, etc. Some of the inputs are time of day, temperature, day of week, as well as motion and audio sensors in the house. So for example the house learns that every time you walk into the bathroom you turn the light on, and when you leave the bathroom you turn it off. Pretty soon it does it for you. Really neat.


      The home and garden channel even had an episode of Extreme Homes that mentioned it.

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  7. Product name... by AnonymousPrick · · Score: 3, Informative
    Luddite HomesTM

    Oooo, I think I'm on to something here!

    There was this builder on NPR a year ago. He builds house in Athens, GA. He figured out that if he left as many trees as he could on a property, he could sell the house for a premium. I just thought - "Uh, Duh!" Most GA builders just clear cut everything and plant weeds (i.e.a lawn).

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    1. Re:Product name... by SeeMyNuts! · · Score: 4, Insightful


      It isn't a matter of being a Luddite. Most people can't control who their neighbors are, which is one reason why living in the subburbs is so darn stressful. The only defense against neighbors in high population density areas is to have tons of money, to pay the association people to enforce restrictions, and to put up big fences.

      Outside cities, the other defense is a lot of land, and lots of shrubbery in the woods to block sound and line of sight to roadways.

      Another defense is a lot of insulation in the walls and ceiling to block sound, which is an added bonus on top of energy efficiency. Unfortunately, a lot of the cookie-cutter 1000-unit neighborhoods were built quickly and cheaply, meaning often inadequate insulation (one house I lived in wasn't even up to code, before I fixed that).

    2. Re:Product name... by Cheapy · · Score: 2, Funny

      "and lots of shrubbery in the woods to block sound and line of sight to roadways."

      So the quest for peace is a quest for shrubbery?

      Those Knights Who Said Ni were on to something...

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  8. You can't take the sky from me... by Terminal+Saint · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd like my home to be a 1:1 scale mock-up of a Firefly class transport. But then I'm a nerd...

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    1. Re:You can't take the sky from me... by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Would that be complete with shuttle occupants, sir?

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    2. Re:You can't take the sky from me... by Mr.Coffee · · Score: 4, Funny

      no, but definitely engine mechanics...
      definitely.

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  9. SImple by bobs666 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    A 40 Foot (12m) catamaran sail boat.

    That way should I not like my neighborhood, I can move to a new one.

    That and live like the turtles, taking my house with me as I visit places across the sea.

    1. Re:SImple by techno-vampire · · Score: 2, Funny
      That and live like the turtles, taking my house with me as I visit places across the sea.

      I lived like that for a few years, long ago. I went from place to place by sea, taking my home with me. But I wasn't on a catamaran, I was on a warship.

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  10. A "simplicity" room by jbarr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No matter what the house of the future would be like, it will need to have at least one room that is devoid of tehnology and gadgets (things like lighting and HVAC aside.) Specifically, no computers, Internet, TV, radio, etc.) It would be a room where you can sit and think, read, ponder, whatever, without the distractions and temptations of technology. A place where one could "focus"--reminding us we shouldn't completely rely on technology for everything. While I certainly love Techmology, there are times when I just have to get away from it for sanity sake.

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    1. Re:A "simplicity" room by stevey · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My plan when I went looking for the place I eventually bought was to make sure the bedroom was empty. Have a rectangular room a big wooden four-pster bed in it and nothing else.

      Real life interfered a lot, so I have to have clothes, books, and even a computer desk in there at the moment - but one day I will own a house which has a room which is literally just a bed-room.

      Perfect for reading/cuddling/relaxing in. With nothing to distract or tidy.

    2. Re:A "simplicity" room by SithLordOfLanc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I agree. I would love a library that has floor to ceiling bookshelves and very minimal furniture. I'm thinking two big leather chairs with a light in between them. Nice big oriental rug on the floor. Shelves lined with books and the cool little things you pick up while traveling. No computers. No radios. I real, honest-to-god library like you see in some of the historical homes in old cities.

  11. My requests by egomaniac · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Considering that the first things I did when I moved into my house were to build a movie theater in the attic and wire the whole house for audio, video, and Internet, I'm definitely in your target market ;-).

    Here are the things I would love to have but am too lazy to have actually gotten around to:

    The ability to wirelessly stream TV from any of my DVRs to any of my laptops.

    Ringing the doorbell should automatically pause any television, movies, or music playing and bring up the front (or side) door-cam

    Similarly, video and audio should pause when the phone rings.

    Be able to use any device in my house as the source for my whole-house audio-video system (currently only the devices in my living room system can function as sources).

    I want a security system that allows me to check the status of my house (hopefully including seeing pictures) from an internet connection. I travel a lot, and it would make me feel better to be able to see that everything is okay.

    And some general comments:

    After playing around with a bunch of universal remotes, I can categorically state that the Home Theater Master MX-850 (Aeros) is my favorite. I have played with a bunch of high-end touchscreens like Crestrons, and actually have a HTM MX-3000 for my theater, but I find that the "wow!" factor is offset by the day-to-day reality that hard-buttoned remotes are easier to live with.

    I don't give a rats' ass about having video screens hidden. I paid a lot of money for my plasma screens, and I'm perfectly okay with having people able to see them. However, while I don't want to hide them, I am perfectly okay with disguising them. I would love to have my main plasma framed so that it looked like a painting on the wall, and I think the ones that look like mirrors when they are off are awesome as well.

    I do like to have video in unusual places. I have a high-def TV mounted over the master bathtub which can receive audio and video from the whole-house network. We don't use it very often, but it's great for escaping from reality for a little while. Similarly, I would like to eventually have a weatherproof TV mounted next to my hot tub.

    I guess basically the bottom line is that I want to be able to get my video and audio from any device to any device easily. I am unfortunately very busy, and really don't have a lot of time to watch TV or movies -- so being able to fire up a recorded copy "The Simpsons" on my laptop (without the bother of downloading a torrent or ripping a DVD) would make it easier for me to enjoy those few minutes I do have.

    Now, that said, I have no intention of actually work with a company like yours. I mean no offense, but in my experience, installation companies like to choose absolutely ridiculously expensive equipment and spend far too much time trying to maximize their profits. The simple fact is that in many cases white paint (cost: $20) provides a projection surface superior to even the much-vaunted Stewart Firehawk (cost: $thousands), and yet I don't think there is a theater company in the world that would actually admit that.

    My screen (160" with an Infocus 7205) is white paint. Sherwin Williams Ultrapaint, to be precise. It looks like a real screen, because I have the projection surface framed off with duvetyne tape and the rest of the wall painted dark blue, and I have had very knowledgeable people comment that it's the best image they have ever seen. And it's just white paint. Similarly, my DVD player cost me $50. The output is completely and utterly indistinguishable from a $1500 Denon (and yes, we have run blind tests -- nobody could tell the difference). So I'm very jaded about the home theater industry in general.

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    1. Re:My requests by deman1985 · · Score: 4, Informative
      I'm hurt!
      Now, that said, I have no intention of actually work with a company like yours. I mean no offense, but in my experience, installation companies like to choose absolutely ridiculously expensive equipment and spend far too much time trying to maximize their profits
      Indeed, it is an image that is unfortunately associated with my company's industry all to often. Installers have come to recognize that the easiest way to make a quick buck is to go after the customers with deep pockets who want to show off. Someone who wants to show off doesn't want to have the same DVD player, projector or audio system as the average joe, even if it is professionally installed. As a result, most installers don't cater to projects under $5k, and shudder at the thought of using equipment from the likes of Sony.

      While I can't deny being guilty of trying to push the higher end equipment myself, I've made sure to set my company up to offer people a wide range of options and I don't set any minimum cut off. If someone already has all the equipment they want and just want their wiring redone, I'm more than happy to take on the project. That doesn't mean I don't prefer and bend over backwards more for customers who want the whole package, though. And, in some applications, there just aren't that many low-cost options for off-the-shelf automation equipment that works reliably; that's why I hope to extend my company into manufacturing eventually.
    2. Re:My requests by egomaniac · · Score: 3, Informative

      For me, it's not about the money per se but what I actually get for it. My theater cost me about $70,000, which certainly isn't super-high-end, but I expect it was enough to have gotten most installers' ears to perk up.

      But because I did it myself and carefully selected components with overall value in mind, I have a theater which (as far as I'm concerned) blows away a lot of $250,000 theaters. Not all of them, certainly, but a lot of them. I used a cheap-ass DVD player because that's all you need, a pretty good but not stellar projector because I expected to throw it away in a few years when better models come out, and absolutely amazing speakers because they are a mature technology which can already reproduce sounds better than my hearing can distinguish them and I mean to hang on to them for life. And no screen at all, because with a nice flat wall, a completely light-controlled room, and a bright projector, a screen provides literally no advantage (it's plenty bright with a gain of 1.0, so increasing gain would merely serve to produce hotspotting).

      Again, truly no offense meant by my earlier comment.

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    3. Re:My requests by BenEnglishAtHome · · Score: 2, Informative
      What the hell did you spend $70k on, then?

      The GP post made mention of speakers being a mature technology worth investing in. It's awfully easy to spend USD$70k on speakers. When it comes to mature technologies that can actually make a difference in the quality of the entertainment experience, audio gear can get really expensive, really quick.

      I'm in my 40s and my ears aren't so good anymore, so even if I were incredibly rich I would have no reason to buy the best speakers out there. Still, based on easily discernible quality differences I could justify $20k to $30k for a (standard 2-speaker) stereo system. (To be fair, I could get 90% of that performance out of a $5k system, but I hope you take my point.) Add to that the extra speakers required by a theater and by multi-room sound, plus the infrastructure, and you can easily spend $70k even if you do use a $50 DVD player.

    4. Re:My requests by egomaniac · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What the hell did you spend $70k on, then?

      Here's the rough cost breakdown:

      Physical construction (walls, floor, etc.): $25,000
      Carpet/paint: $4,000
      Seats: $8,000
      Projector: $6,000
      Speakers: $20,000
      Electronics: $4,000

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  12. man, talk about budget-breakers! by Thud457 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    First of all, we'll need an architect, we'll have to resurrect John Lautner.

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  13. futuristic home by prurientknave · · Score: 5, Funny

    I want a futuristic home that pays its own property taxes. that way i can live in it forever.

  14. Green/backup power...mmmmm by COBOLgrrl · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I love the idea of "green" backup power via wind and/or solar so that a power outage will no longer mean that I'm without PC/TV/fridge/water/etc. I'd like one of those flash water heaters, too, so that I only heat as much water as I need. And can I have windows that automatically adjust to the outdoor light level, with optional manual override? Oh, and I don't need carpets, so how about one of those cool radiant-heat under the floor systems?

    1. Re:Green/backup power...mmmmm by Mike_Van · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It would not need to be large (less than 1500 sq ft.). Its space should be passively heated/cooled as the seasons require, employ radiant solar hot-water heat, employ heat-exchangers to extract therms out of any air expelled, and be able to generate/store its own power (PV panels, micro-hydro, wind, battery backup). Self-sufficiency, of course, requires planning that involves deliberate choices of appliances (clothes-washer, fridge, LED lighting that turns on/off by sensing body heat and/or light in a room, laptops instead of Desktop PCs). Wiring for information technology is a given (CAT5, coax, POTS). A dual plumbing system that allows for toilets to be flushed with grey-water would be optimal. And, of course, a cistern for rainwater catchment. An attached green-house for food-production would be desirable (not included in the 1500 sq. ft.).

  15. Automation Interaction? by ThyPiGuy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm a EE senior specializing in controls and also working for a small scale home automation company. My senior design project is a built from scratch auomation system offering wireless light control, temperature control, and media (IR) control. It will also provide energy monitoring.

    The fun part about the project is coming up with ways to intereact with the system. I want to make it as scalable and expandable as possible, allowing any hobbyist to add functionality as they choose. How would you readers like to interact with your house? Voice seems simplest and the least messy, but what creative ways would you enjoy interacting with your home?

  16. Alton Brown designed kitchen by SatanMat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As EVERY good geek shold know Alton Brown shold design the kitchen to be mulitasked, and well hacked.

  17. I can't afford it anyway, so why bother? by LordNimon · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Given that most people's spending habits (or abilities) don't cover what's currently available, perhaps you should focus on making current technology more affordable, rather than trying to invent new gizmos?

    There are lots of things I could do today that I can't afford to. For instance, I'd love to be able to put a bunch of wireless cameras throughout the house that can be remotely activated and viewed on a handheld. That would allow my wife to keep an eye on our kids without having to search through the house every time. But even though a cheapo webcam is $40, such a configuration would cost thousands with the products that are available on the market.

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    1. Re:I can't afford it anyway, so why bother? by deman1985 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Out of curiosity, what would be a feasible price point for something like what you described?

      I don't disagree that the pricing on much of the currently available home integration technologies is out of reach of most consumers. My ultimate goal with my company is to eventually move into the design side of integration equipment and make the technology more widely accessible, but that is some time off. My personal belief as to why it is so "overpriced" in comparison with PC's and more common consumer electronics is simply the niche market that is has been in for so long. Even for international companies like Crestron, their mass production numbers can't come anywhere close to what Dell does. By the time enough units have been shipped of a particular technology to bring the price down, that technology is vastly out of date. There is also limited competition on the manufacturing side. This combined with the commonly held view that home integration (or variations of it) is a luxury forces the technology to stay below that threshold where competition, mass production and wide availability pushes the price down. It will happen eventually, though, don't worry.

  18. An Idealized house... by Zitchas · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Well, for the actual house design, I think we all have our own desires as to that, and probably for the better. As far as technology itself goes, there's a fair number of extras I'd love to have in my house. Most of these would, ideally, not be overly visible changes in decor or anything. Technology is good, but I like to keep it low profile.

    1) The entire house being a Faraday Cage would be very nice. I'm not sure how hard it would be to build it perfectly without doing silly things like getting rid of windows, but it shoud be possible to get one that is substantially intact. With the prevalance of wireless *everything* nowdays, I enjoy being able to keep it all on the outside. Probably do good things for my risk of getting cancer and whatnot too. (and becomes an eternal cellphone black-out zone as an added bonus...)

    2) Shielded power supply that keeps electronic stuff from interfering with each other.

    2b) UPS protected power supply wired in for a small range of "essential" stuff, and for those things that really shouldn't be at the mercy of power fluctuations and what not. Along the lines of a single pair of plugs per room (using different colored plugins to differentiate)

    2c) Alternate power supplies: Whether it be solar panels, a small wind turbine, or whatever, something would be good. Understandably, it might not be able to keep the entire house running, but it'd be good to have *something*, anyway.

    3) Phone and network jacks in every room. Standard phone jack, and whatever one desires as a network interface for that. But one port for each in every room, and all wired into a nice spot for a router. In my case, I'd want it on a shelf out of the way in my comp area where I could still see it/acces it, but it'd never get in the way.

    4) Alternate heating: If at all possible, solar water heater tank, maybe even full scale solar heating. If local terrain permits, geothermal heating/cooling. The fridge could be tied directly into the later, making the kitchen quiter and reducing inefficiencies in the system. (heat inside the fridge isn't stuck into the area immidiadly surrounding it to warm it up again)

    5) Good, variable, lighting: Sometimes I like to have bright lights illuminating everything, sometimes I don't want anything more than indirect gentle lighting. Likewise, the option to let good large amouts of natural light in would be a deffinite plus, although the blinds or covers would also be desired. I'm not a fan of those big glass houses with zero-privacy.

    6) At least two exterior doors, on opposite sides of the house from each other. Not that I feel the need to always have escape options, but sometimes I may just need to leave the house in the opposite direction of the front door, for whatever reason. That, and I like having equally easy access to both front and back yards.

    6b) That being said, having at least one door being wheelchair accessible would be nice. I don't have very many friends in wheelchairs, but should I invite them over, I'd like at least the public part of my house (aka living room, dining room, entryway, and a bathroom) to be accessible. Note that doesn't necesarily require that the house have each of those as seperate rooms (depending on budget and design, the first three could very well be a single room). And as far as that goes, if chance should happen that I am in a wheelchair for some reason, I'd like to be able to live in at least part of my house without problem.

    7) Garages: A garage is optional, I don't really see much need for one, unless I'm located out of town a long ways or need to comute long distances for some other reason. But a half-sized garage would be nice, about the right size for a couple bicycles or a motorcycle... Regardless, though, the garage should NOT be a central feature in the house. All those houses that look like someone designed a garage and stuck a house on the back look, quite honestly, extre

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  19. Self-sufficiency by Carik · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've spent quite a lot of time thinking about this recently, as I'm getting ready to move out of a condo, into a house.

    I'd like a house which is relatively self-sufficent: grid connected is fine, but I want solar/wind/hydro backup power, and a good battery bank so when the power lines go out, I can keep reading without having to dig out the candles. Something that's cheap to heat would be a plus, too: either high insulation values, or good passive-solar heating, or, more ideally, both. Sustainable heating would be a tremendous plus: either wood, or a multi-fuel furnace.

    Built in conduit for running whatever the networking preference of the week is would be nice, as well as an electrical system that can handle a few additions to the house.

    Oh, and one other thing: it needs to look like a HOUSE. Not a flying saucer. Not a pile of concrete. Not a space-ship, a dinosaur, or a giant fuzzy pumpkin. A house.

  20. Re:Two words by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 2, Funny

    Feh.

    The right two words are "Death Star."

    Because I like having a lot of room, deep chasms without guardrails, planet-destroying lasers, but I don't like the countryside. Too many trees, and not enough lasers.

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  21. Camouflagellation by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "If you had access to an unlimited budget, what would you spend money on to make your home stand out? "

    Everything in my power to make it NOT stand out. I want the benefits of high-tech with the clean living of low-tech. One of my favorites are the speakers that you install in your walls, and then pain over the fronting when you paint your walls. Totally invisible, and great for playing pranks on unsuspecting houseguests.

    The only constraint on everything being hidden would be that everything needs to be easily accessible for tinkering/servicing.

    My biggest pet peeve, however, is the control systems for a lot of home electronics setups. I don't want to have to access my PC to change the thermostat setting, nor do I want to have a ridiculous remote or set of remotes. I would like to be able to control everything via my cell phone or PDA, locally or remotely.

    Finally, I want an army of fembots at my disposal, along with a place to store them.

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  22. Obvious answer... by The+Fun+Guy · · Score: 2, Funny

    One where the mortgage has a stamp on it that reads, "Paid in Full".

    (28 years and 3 months from now, I'm gonna tell the bank to KMA!)

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  23. Hot Chicks Room by jmhewitt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Realtor: This is the Hot Chicks Room. The breakfast table's just over this way...
    Wife: Excuse me? What was that room again?
    Realtor: Oh, this is the Hot Chicks Room. It's filled with assorted hot chicks, who party in here 24 hours a day. But you'd be more interested in the kitchen.
    Wife: You know what? We're not going to need a sexy chicks room.
    Realtor: Well, actually it's a Hot Chicks Room.
    Wife: Well, whatever it is, we don't need it.
    Husband: You said the same thing about the microwave, and we use that darned thing all the time.
    [to realtor]
    Husband: So, a Hot Chicks Room, huh?
    Realtor: Yeah. The previous owner installed the room in the 80's, and I'll be honest with you, some of the chicks aren't all that hot anymore. However, they are replacable.

  24. A few things by metamatic · · Score: 2

    Ethernet to every room.

    Spare cables to every room.

    Triple coax from the roof to the living room, for satellite dish and local antenna. (I had to arrange extra coax myself, and it was a pain.)

    Hookups in the bathrooms for Toto washlets.

    Passive motion / IR sensors in every room to switch lights off after a while if there's nobody in the room, and turn down the heating or AC.

    Bath with thermostatic control and fill sensor. Set temperature, it fills itself and then chimes when it's ready.

    Panel in house that indicates outdoor temperature, weather forecast for the day, whether there's something in the mailbox and whether the mailbox flag is up. Option to have the mailbox chime.

    Server closet with good ventilation.

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  25. Digital Shower by CokeBear · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was thinking about how much water is wasted each morning waiting for the shower to get to the right temperature, and it occurred to me that much of that water could be saved if the temperature could be set before turning on the water. The interface could be as simple as 4 buttons: (On/Off, C/F, Warmer, Colder) and a display just large enough for a 2 digit number representing the temperature. After the first time you set it, you know what temperature you like your shower to be at, and on each subsequent shower, you only need to press any button to activate the display, then the up/down arrow to adjust the temperature, and the On button to turn on the water once you have confirm that its at the correct temperature. I know nothing about plumbing, so I'm not sure how it would actually work, but you would at least be able to get rid of those unsightly knobs and have a flat wall there. Am I dreaming, or is this possible?

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  26. Keep the tech unobtrusive. by Shivetya · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I want my home to feel like a home, not some crazy science experiment or an office building offshoot.

    As such I am already in the process of buying my next home.

    the most advanced features, multiple zones for my heating and cooling. Sure I will have the atypical security system and such and a bunch of florescent (sp?) lighting in place of incandescents. The point being, I go home to escape the technology of my day to day life. It is my refuge from reality.

    As such, my TV is confined to a room I rarely go to. Same for my PC. The biggest reason I use my PC now is to play DVDs while I exercise.

    Honestly, too many people are wasting their lives on tech outside of work. My favorite tech is having a nice easy to maintain house and landscape. It is seeing what will grow outside to provide year round color. I get all the tech I need at work. It can stay there too.

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  27. Interoperability by SWroclawski · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What I'd like to see in a home is interoperability between "smart appliances".

    If my fridge has the ability to tell me its internal temperature, I'd like to have a way to query it. And ideally, I'd like something similar to query my home's thermostat, water heater, etc.

    The problem with these "smart homes" is that they often seem to rely on a single vendor having a "home automation solution" rather than a system I can plug into.

    What I want is something akin to Wi-Fi or bluetooth + XML-RPC

    1. Re:Interoperability by Fastolfe · · Score: 2, Informative

      I completely agree. This is perhaps the #1 reason I have stayed away from things like nice home security systems and decent home automation: I'm locked into that one solution. I can't easily hack it and I can't integrate it into "something else" that comes along later. I'm not going to pay hundreds of dollars on something that could conceivably be obsolete soon afterwards, with no ability to swap out components or add components without the blessing of the manufacturer.

      I recently got a low-end wireless weather station, but it's the same thing: I can't do anything useful with it because it's all proprietary. Some day someone will hack up GNURadio to sniff on the wireless exchange, and then I'll be able to do some useful stuff with it, but until then, it's a "siloed" technology. I can't make it work with anything else. I shouldn't have to buy 5 different temperature-sensing solutions if I want 5 different temperature-driven things.

    2. Re:Interoperability by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 3, Funny
      If my fridge has the ability to tell me its internal temperature, I'd like to have a way to query it.
      Me, I walk the 20 or so feet to the kitchen, open the fridge, and place my hand on one of the beers contained therein. If it's at the correct temperature, I take it out and drink it. If it isn't, I wait for them to cool down. I'll have one while I'm waiting, of course.
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  28. Advice from an experienced home owner by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    1) you always grow out of your home until you have kids and they leave for college.

    2) home values go up, mostly.

    so, buy the biggest house you can afford, a little ways from the edge of surberbia. You will grow into it, and you will make more money over the long run.

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    1. Re:Advice from an experienced home owner by Nutria · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Once you are in a downsizing trend (i.e. empty nest) you can just get whatever size you need and be done with it.

      The overwhelming likelihood, though, is that your wife will refuse to move.

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  29. How that could work by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The real problem with what you want is that the water sits in the pipes, so you have to wait for older water to be flushed out by the warm water behind it.

    So in order to have hot water truly on demand, the old water has to go somewhere - why not back to the water heater? You could design all your heated plumbing to be able to be looped back to the hot water heater and a pump to circulate it, so you could have a constant warm flow to tap into.

    That would require more insulation and even then be less efficient, so you'd probably still want to combine that with a timer for shower uses. A side effect is that you could also have the loopback pipes run under your bathroom floor and heat the floor for you while it was warming up the system, or possibly chill it in the summer by having it circulate cold water instead.

    Basically the system just involves a lot of extra pipes, and possibly a somewhat larger water heater to handle the extra load of heating the returned water.

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  30. Larry Ellison's house - lots of big rocks by Animats · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Here's a description of Larry Ellison's house. He likes big rocks. Lots of big rocks. He has a hot tub carved out of one big rock. A shower stall carved out of one big rock. A bridge built out of big rocks. A driveway made out of big, precut rocks designed by a program written by CS270 students at Berkeley.

    All this rock moving required years of heavy equipment operations. The construction site looked like a mall was going in. All this rock had to be not only placed, but anchored; the house is near the San Andreas fault.

    The house is on Mountain Home Road in Woodside, recognizable by the gatehouse that looks like a Japanese teahouse. In the end, it looks rather modest; it just has a landscape that belongs to a rockier area.

    So that's a real dream house, built for someone with a mania for big rocks.

  31. Smart by CagedBear · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes! My biggest pet peeve is that I pay the electric co. to heat hot water in the summer and cool my food in the winter.

  32. The System I Have In Mind... by kwalker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm just a geek, not a home-automation expert, but the house I've been designing (for when I'm rich and/or famous) will have quite a bit of (in my opinion) useful automation (In no particular order):

    • The entire system will be integrated and each component will communicate back to the central "nerve cluster" either through a hard-wired interface or wirelessly. In turn, this computer system will keep everything running smoothly, coordinate all house functions for optimal occupant comfort and energy efficiency, and will make all its data available to (only) me for analysis.
    • Remotely controllable as well as having several touch screens at strategic locations around the house. It will have a secure web interface that I can connect to from my desktop/laptop/PDA/smartphone and control all the basic functions. The advanced functions may require a larger screen (e.g. a laptop or one of the touch screens).
    • Integration with my home network. This will give me the added benefit of integration with the car computer I am designing (I pull into the drive way, the house knows I'm home and begins its nightly routine).
    • Bluetooth receivers at strategic locations around the house so a bluetooth-equipped PDA or smartphone could be my remote. This gives me the added benefit of being able to unlock the doors and tell the house I am home by being close to one of the external doors.
    • Intelligent light switches. They will all be controllable from the home system so I can have it turn lights on/off from one of the touch screens scattered around the house, the TV interface, or my remote controls. It will also be able to (de)activate lights as necessary (e.g. Turn on the external lights 25 minutes after sunset, slowly bring up the lights in the master bedroom a few minutes before I wake up).
    • Integrated door locks. I don't want to have to remember to lock up at night or when I leave the house (It's a force of habit now, but if the house is intelligent, it should look after itself). Also, if I'm away from home, I can unlock the doors for whoever I have bringing in the mail/feeding the pets. Likewise, I want automated window shades, so I can (have it) increase or decrease the amount of sunlight entering the house.
    • Integration with the HVAC system, with zoned cooling/heating and remote temperature sensing, unlimited temperature schedule, away mode, overrides, etc. Also a small weather station feeding data into the system telling me the outside conditions and giving me alerts (e.g. reminding me to put on a coat if it is raining or snowed overnight).
    • Insulated, double-paned windows and security doors (and door jams).
    • Increased insulation in the house, especially the outside walls and ceilings. With the zoned HVAC system, I don't want heat leeching between zones. I'm also looking at insulated concrete for the foundation.
    • Conduit from every room leading to a specially-designed central server room. This will be the home for the nerve cluster as well as the other servers in the house. Each room will have two Ethernet drops as well as coax cable, but I can add more later if desired.
    • Integrated security system with cameras watching the doors and the driveway and sensors on all the windows. The system will be intelligent enough to pause the movie I'm watching and show me who's walking toward my doorway; turn on all the house lights if a window is opened after 10pm; if someone comes to my door while I'm not home, the house sends me a picture; or if I'm in the back yard the system can send me a video feed from the porch cam and I can tell the person there to come around back.
    • Integrated telecomm system. If I'm watching TV, it will have the option of pausing and showing me the Caller ID information for who is calling, and allow me to decide to take the call or go back to what I was doing previously. It will also be intelligent enough to route calls with blacklisted numbers or no Caller ID information to the auto-attendant.
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  33. Hnads down zero energy homes by zogger · · Score: 2, Informative

    Any new built home should be ultra insulated and be self powered. The concept is called "zero energy homes". By using "superinsulation" techniques, combined with intelligently purchased home appliances, and then adding in such things as active and passive solar heating, hotwater, and garnering your own electrical supply with PV or wind, etc, you can get down to about zilch for "energy bills" and always have your home be powered and heated and cooled.

        In addition, they should be built to be storm proof as much as possible, ice, wind, even fire can be dealt with using more advanced construction techniques like earthships, cordwood masonry, concrete domes, earth bermed,etc, plenty of different styles and techniques. There's no one size fits all, it really depends on geographical location and budget.

    here are a some useful links to get you started

    http://www.eere.energy.gov/solar_decathlon/ (check the homepages of last years entries to see the completed structures, the homes even run the car!)

    http://www.google.com/search?q=zero+energy+homes&s tart=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

    http://www.google.com/search?q=earthships&start=0& start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

    Basically, ANYTHING but normal energy hog and fragile square stick built framed housing. That is so 20th century. Oil is not two dollars a barrel anymore, yet most homes are built about the same way they were back when that was true. You got to ask yourself, is that just plain nuts, or what? I vote "plain nuts". There are better ways to do things now...

  34. Earthship by astonish · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Exactly! I attended a speech here not to long ago by someone who had built their own earthship. Essentially the idea is to pack sand in tires for thick mass around 3 walls and then face the sun with a wall of windows and the house regulates its own temperatures. They built their home (somewhere in the 2000-3000 sqrft size range) for $40,000 CDN. The house regulates its own temperature from outdoor conditions of -40C to +30C here in Ontario. They use a composting toilet, well water with a waste water system using plants, woodstove and solar power (including computers). For $40k (they say they could do it for $30K knowing what they know now) they are completely off the grid and as a bonus financially independent other than property taxes. As an interesting aside in some municipalities your property taxes are based on the amount of greenspace your house takes up and since the roof of the house is actually earth and grass you loose no greenspace....

    Anyway, this my new dream home. As it is completely self-sufficient, low cost, and there have been many projects to show that you don't have to sacrifice luxery (including running many computers and HDTVs and the like) when living in this sort of home. About the only trouble seems to be getting building permits (did I meantion they are certified earthquake safe in california?) Many of them are very gorgeous as well. I would recommend checking out earthship.org for examples.

    1. Re:Earthship by njh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Or you could put something up using structural insulated panels in a weekend with comparable thermal performance.

      For heating all year round, read this: http://www.ece.villanova.edu/~nick/solar/solar.htm l

    2. Re:Earthship by hattig · · Score: 2, Funny

      Please get them to make a website detailing everything they did. This is what I want to do, get away from it all.

      My ideal of a stony cave-like underground dwelling probably wouldn't pull the chicks though. But an eco-friendly house would. Possible. Even the long-skirted type that don't wash enough. That's what hoses are for. Solar powered hoses.

      God, why am I posting after a night on the tiles?

  35. one more post about energy efficiency by fred+fleenblat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I live in a climate with some big temperature swings, and I'd like to see an automatic way to do something that I have to do manually currently: "bank" some extra heat or cold in anticipation of the next change, usually day/night but sometimes a change in the weather too.

    I'm talking about things like opening the windows on a warm day to let in a lot of heat (for free) then the furnace doesn't have to work as hard to maintain temp at night. Similar for cooling: open the house up at night so that the a/c doesn't have to work all day. Also take into account the side the sun is hitting from and set up fans to draw in or exhaust as appropriate to the thermal direction you're trying to take the house.

    Not every climate has large enough temp swings to take advantage of throughout the year, but a lot can do this in the late spring and early fall.

  36. All I want is. . . by mjackson14609 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    . . .the Monsanto House of the Future; it's time.

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  37. Useful tech, not cool tech by Riskable · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Never design a house around it being "cool" because that wears off. Instead, make the "cool" factor easily swapped out and replaced with the latest style. The rest of the home should utilize tech that benefits it's occupants in efficiency and ergonomics.

    My ideal home specs are thus:

    * Every room has it's own air return and heat/cool zone with their own thermostats. That way you can "turn off" unused rooms to save energy.
    * Insulated interior doors that are weather-stripped like exterior doors to make the previous suggestion work better as well as provide soundproofing.
    * Utilize the geography of the home to ease the energy burden. If you're building in a hot, sunny environment, install solar-powered water heating. If you're in a cool, dry environment, build the home into the ground to utilize natural insulation. You get the idea.
    * Utilize sunlight-piping to light hallways and non-open rooms during the day.
    * Use fiber-optics to provide accent lighting in the living areas.
    * Install insulated vents so that hot air can be utilized in the summer to aid the water heater and cold air can be utilized in the winter to aid the refrigerator/freezer.

    I have a lot more, but I've run out of time.

    -Riskable
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  38. Re:SOLAR home by paulbd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    hmm. the lot is filled with trees, yet you expect to get enough solar exposure to generate a substantive fraction of your consumption? sounds like the lot will be less filled with trees by the time you are done.

    instead of contributing to the steady spread of the eastern megalopolis, why not pick up the split level heap of crapboard, demolish it and build something in a place where people have already trashed the landscape? you'll have neighbours, amenities, and probably lots and lots of solar exposure available without cutting down any more trees.

    just to be clear, what you describe was once my dream too.

  39. Easiest question to ask ever by DaveJay · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you really want a "futuristic" home that won't become an anachronism eventually, there is one (and only one) option: make the house as flexible and updatable as possible.

    That means you can't just run wires in the walls; you need low AND high-voltage conduit that runs places you don't think you need cables right now, and with lots of extra capacity -- and, ideally, that allows you to break through the wall and "punch into" the conduit at any point within the wall that it runs.

    That means you need to allow for reconfiguration of ducting, gas and water lines at will.

    That means you need some walls to be more than just non-structural -- they should be freely reconfigurable.

    You get the idea. The future is DIFFERENT, and your house needs to be able to accommodate that.

  40. The more things change... by nsayer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The house of tomorrow looks an awful lot like the house of yesterday. I'm a homeowner, so I can pass along some of my own observations about how I would change my house if I had the chance:

    1. Insulate, insulate, insulate. You can never insulate too well. Even if you think you've insulated well enough for thermal control, extra insulation is also sound deadening, which is nice. While you're at it, seal up the house really well. BUT if you do that, make sure you install a heat-exchanger venting system to replace the house air. This isn't so much a health issue as much as it is an aesthetic one. When you drop a deuce in the master bath, a well sealed house will help make the, uh, memories linger unless you are changing out the air. And leaving the bathroom window open on a cold, rainy night is never a great plan.

    2. Put the laundry "room" (alcove, closet, whatever) near the master bedroom. It takes some extra work and some extra space, but you'll thank me. Especially if you have a two story house. You didn't install the dishwasher in the garage, did you?

    3. Nice big conduits to every room for low voltage / communications wiring. Yes, for today I want 2 cat 5 and 2 RG6, but what about tomorrow?

    4. Oversize the utility inputs as much as you can. We swapped out our stove/oven for a gas model. This required bringing a second gas line in through the garage - a fairly ugly hack. It would have been much better to future-proof this up front.

    5. Tankless water heater. More reliable and longer lasting, more energy efficient, more graceful failure mode. Who can argue with that?

    6. A basement. Obviously in some places this is actually required to insure the foundation is below the frost line, but even in Silicon Valley I'd like to have one for storage and to make repairs and improvements easier. We have a crawl space. It's not so nice. If you have a basement and a single story, then you probably can strike out #3 above.

    7. Attic stairs / finished attic. The trend nowadays in making your house bigger is to replace the attic with a 2nd story. The 2nd story winds up with rooms with angled ceilings and the like, and you don't get to have an attic at all. We don't have a big family, so we don't really need that. But we are storage-poor, so it would be really helpful to be able to conveniently use the giant, cavernous triangle above the ceiling to store stuff.

    8. If you go with 2 stories, try and arrange to have a pair of closets vertically lined up. If your health declines as you get older (a house is a long term investment, mind you), you can convert them into an elevator.

    9. Every (non Amish) modern house in America has a home theater. The only difference is how nice it is. A 23" TV in the den is the home theater if that's where you watch TV. I'm not saying you should plan your house around home theater, but if you know some of the rules of good theater design, you can decide how many of them you can try and incorporate in the place where the TV goes:

    A. Sunlight is the enemy of your TV. The room doesn't have to be windowless, but try and avoid large picture windows facing West or South.

    B. The distance between the screen and your eyes ideally should be about 2-3 times the height of the screen (at least, if we're talking about high definition TV. Sit further away, and you'll lose all of the extra detail you paid for when you bought an HD set).

    10. Let nature help your HVAC situation. Plant deciduous trees to the south. In the summer, they'll shade the house. In the winter, they'll drop their leaves and let the sun through to warm you. Plant evergreens between your house and the prevailing winter wind (usually from the North).

  41. Two words: by snowwrestler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Self cleaning.

    I don't really care about details of how it's accomplished. Nano-treated surfaces and micro-robots? Sweet, whatever. Just so long as I never have to clean the tub or mop the kitchen by hand again.

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    Build a man a fire, he's warm for one night. Set him on fire, and he's warm for the rest of his life.