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Will Novell's Desktop Linux Catch On?

Laura writes "Novell says its newly released Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop 10(SLED) can replace Windows for the average office worker. But will enterprises embrace a widespread migration from Windows?" From the article: "The desktop market is a very mature market, and Microsoft has a very strong presence there, which makes it hard for customers to move off [...] However, Jeff Jaffe, executive vice president and chief technology officer at Novell, said at the SLED 10 launch Thursday he is fairly confident that if enterprises have a chance to kick the tires of the new desktop OS, mass migration from Windows is soon to follow."

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  1. It is in Indiana Schools by suso · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Bloomington North High School is piloting about 120 linux machines in their school running NLD, Linspire and Edubuntu. 700 students are using them. The Bloomington Linux Users Group is helping them by providing support.

  2. Dell Has Novell Desktop 9 by digitaldc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Dell has started offering it on their website, maybe it will catch on. People need to be able to try before they buy, so they can see how it works, then it might catch on. There is a link to do this, but most people would rather not have to install it to try it.

    I don't know where you can try Linux in a retail outlet, but it would help convince people to buy it if they could, IMHO.

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  3. Re:Linux guys don't like to hear this, but ... by Nosklo · · Score: 4, Interesting
    It rarely needs rebooting, it lets even computer illiterate users be surprisingly productive, and it really doesn't cost very much. In fact, it effectively comes "for free" with a $500 Dell desktop PC.

    I have to disagree. $500 Dell desktop has windows costs built in.
    BTW, I live in a country where everybody - and I mean *everybody* - uses pirated copies of windows. I yet have to meet a home user that has all licenses for windows and office software. Many "tech guys" make their living by instaling pirated copies of windows.

    When I say "no, I don't work with windows", people are amazed at me. Then, when I show my Ubuntu laptop, they are truly puzzled. Then, I tell them the advantages of security, updates and such, and they are fished.

    For a Linux desktop to be preferred over Windows, the Linux desktop experience will have to provide something new and innovative that Windows does not, rather than just knocking off Windows features.

    What about a huge selection of free software, unmatchable security features, beautiful customization of the desktop and themes (that Windows XP is definitively lacking), out-of-the-box support for their hardware (like when you plug in your camera and get pictures with gphoto2, without having to install the camera's CD).

    PDF export in OpenOffice, tab navigation in firefox, and so on... That features I use to sell Open Source to people which has no clue.

    Hackers like me and you like Linux for many reasons -- but none of those reasons are particularly interesting to Joe Office Manager or Mom and Pop User.

    I think that when you show them the advantages above, they are willing to try it out. With a good explanation, you can make a change. I know it doesn't work like this for everybody, but I have a good rate of success.

    Get innovative, people -- invent something new and useful that Windows *doesn't* have, and then they will come.

    If Novell is lauching SLED 10 with its Xgl extension, this will be another feature to show off and attract users that are easily impressed by this kind of eye candy.

    In my humble opnion they are in the right path.

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  4. Re:Break the inflexible desktop mindset first by danpsmith · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Somehow the current state of the desktop in most people's minds is as inflexible as it gets. It seems as if people can not think about a different desktop. It is, as if they take it as granted. And for linux to make a breakthrough this mindset has first to be broken.

    Why would they want the state of the desktop to change? It works. Linux, in a lot of the same ways, doesn't for the average user. There's definitely a larger learning curve (yes even for Ubuntu). Most people are simply not willing to have to learn new stuff when the old way works fine and is cheap enough.

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  5. Re:For free? by massysett · · Score: 4, Interesting
    OEM licensing runs ~$10 for a copy of XP, or 2% of the total cost of the machine, effectively free.

    The true cost of Windows is much more than ~$10, for both user and vendor.

    For vendor, the true cost far exceeds ~$10 because of support. Hordes of people call vendor tech support lines because of problems with Windows, whether such problems are viruses, spyware, or other operating system defects.

    For user, the true cost far exceeds ~$10 because one typically must factor in the cost of antivirus, perhaps antispyware too. Not to mention the time spent dealing with these programs, or time spent dealing with spyware and virus infections. Oh, and that doesn't include the cost of whatever proprietary software you'll need to get Windows to do anything truly useful.

    Windows costs much more than ~$10, which is a long, long way from being "effectively free."

  6. Re:Unlikely. by jojo1835 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    OK... in the interest of full disclosure, I am a Novell employee. That comment above about Novell Linux Desktop 9 in Indiana, the guy doing all the technical work on that implementation is on my team.

    Dell might be saying that they want only one "major" distribution is horse hockey. In many, many conversations with IBM and HP, both those vendors want the opposite. They want two major distributions that have full enterprise support. Novell/SUSE as one (see IBM investment in Novell) and Red Hat as the other. Why do they want this? Because they don't want another Microsoft. They want to encourage standards, competition, and hardware upgrades. They can't do this if everyone runs the OS of the year from Microsoft. They can do this if everyone runs either SUSE Linux, Red Hat Linux, or Microsoft. Doing that creates lots of churn for them to take advantage of when trying to sell boxes equipped with the latest bells and whistles.

    As far as Umbuntu... I don't know what to tell you. Most of my customers (anywhere from 100 users in a local township to 30,000 users at a Fortune 100 company) won't install software X on OS Y on hardware Z unless it's 100% supported and certified by both vendors. Problem with Umbuntu is, as far as I know, no major software or hardware companies are doing that. That alone will put the screws to Umbuntu. At Novell/SUSE, our biggest challenge (and our biggest success) has been getting third party companies like Intel, Dell, HP, IBM, Oracle, PeopleSoft, BEA, etc. to certify our OS as a platform that they will support. Check to see if the app you want is supported here http://developer.novell.com/yessearch/Search.jsp. Without a company behind Umbuntu, getting that kind of support is going to be impossible. And, as we all know, without supported software, no one will use your distro.

    That's just my opinion... I certainly could be wrong.

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