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Google Finance Beta Released

t3rmin4t0r writes "Forbes.com is reporting that google has rolled out a finance site. The site finance.google.com seems to be too plain and looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together. The Forbes article mentions that "Google had previously provided financial information through a framed page featuring information from Yahoo! Finance, Fool.com, MSN Money Central and ClearStation " and that the information is collected from various sources rather than a direct feed from the stock exchanges, making it probably less useful for buy & sell decisions. "

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  1. Woo hoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's exactly like Yahoo! Finance, only with no ads (Google can't put ads on beta sites for legal reasons) and cool Flash charting. This is probably the best financial site ever created.

    1. Re:Woo hoo! by Uber+Banker · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You may want to check your source. Gmail, Google Groups, and Froogle (and probably others that I haven't bothered to check) are all technically beta, and all have ads.

      He/she may indeed like to check their source. I believe only Google News cannot display ads (due to legal threats), probably including Google's personalised home page as it has Google News contents.

    2. Re:Woo hoo! by SparafucileMan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      uh, no it's not.

      1. the data is sparse. no canadian stocks. no options. no bonds. no futures. StockCharts.com has all that, it's free, and the charting is better because:

      2. no technical analysis

      and Yahoo is still way better than Google finance... hopefully Google will improve, but right now, there are litterly hundreds of free, better, and more comprehensive financial websites out there.

      Besides, the fact that they don't get their data directly from the exchanges is _completely_ bogus for anything serious. You can't use Google Finance for any real trading decisions.

    3. Re:Woo hoo! by thrillseeker · · Score: 2, Informative
      cant seem to figure out how to get google finance to show me indexes or exchange rates

      The indexes come up if entered without the upcaret, i.e.: ^IXIC is shown at IXIC

  2. Whew! by suso · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For a second there I thought that Google had created some web application for people to track their personal expenses. That could be dangerous in a lot of ways.

    1. Re:Whew! by Bohiti · · Score: 3, Funny

      I thought the same thing (web application) but with a different impression ("Whew! Google's smart, maybe they can keep my checkbook balanced!")

    2. Re:Whew! by DCstewieG · · Score: 2, Informative

      You mean like this or this? The former connects to Microsoft Money. I tried both and now use Total Look...obviously I'm not a tin-foil hat type.

  3. I like! by ggvaidya · · Score: 4, Informative

    "looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together."

    Really? Check out their MSFT page - it really is a lot better organised than Yahoo's. Once they support Singaporean stocks (they already have lots of information), I'm gonna be all over these guys.

    Good job, Google!

    1. Re:I like! by tessaiga · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Really? Check out their MSFT page - it really is a lot better organised than Yahoo's. Once they support Singaporean stocks (they already have lots of information), I'm gonna be all over these guys.
      Have you ever actually used Yahoo Finance to do any in-depth analysis? The depth of information you can dig up from their site is astounding.

      Want to know their daily historical prices going back to 1986? How about getting the percent of their float currently shorted as a gauge of bearishness on the stock? Or track insider trading as an indicator of management's confidence in their own company? Check the options chain for ways to hedge your positions or as a way of leveraging an investment in the stock? Yahoo provides all this and more.

      At present Google Finance just gives you the thousand-mile overview and links you to other sites for anything more detailed. While this might improve in the future, at the moment the article summary's judgement on their scope is valid.

      Where I do see an opportunity for Google Finance to one-up Yahoo is in their corporate news section. Yahoo mainly gets corporate news related to a company from news wires like Reuters or PR Newswire. As a result, a lot of smaller companies that analysts don't follow as closely have very few news stories associated with them. Of course, this same universe of small companies is where a diligent personal investor can uncover lots of value stocks overlooked by Wall Street. With their excellent Google News technology, this would be a great spot for Google to use their expertise at pulling in the latest news stories off all corners of the news world for all stocks, not just the big ones that are closely watched by the Street. That would certainly give me a reason to use their service to keep tabs on stocks I'm interested in following.

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    2. Re:I like! by c_forq · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Every page for a stock I have looked at is real sharp, especially the board members with pictures and descriptions on mouse-over. The news following the time line, and the ability to move the time line with the bar and by dragging is good thinking too. I also like how you can follow the line with the mouse, and it will show the time and value of where your cursor is. The stock pages seem very polished to me, it is only the main page that appears to be quickly thrown together in my view.

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    3. Re:I like! by TopShelf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Another thing I like to use on Yahoo is to pull Real-Time ECN info for several stocks at once, to keep tabs on a watchlist. I don't see similar functionality in the Google page. Try the following:

      http://finance.yahoo.com/q/cq?d=e&s=ge%2Ctsn%2CMO, goog,jnpr,tsai

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  4. Plain? Don't talk nonsense by timster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hey, the storied search engine has a plain starting screen too. Where this is cool is when you get into the detail page for individual stocks. Check out the price graph, which is much richer than what Yahoo has -- you can hover for the closing price on specific days, click and drag to move around in the history, and zoom however you like.

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  5. I just noticed by Genevish · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was just about to post a story about this. I went to pull up the info on a quote from my Google news page and saw the new format.

    The main page may look plain, but the detail on a stock is beautiful:

    http://www.google.com/finance?client=ig&q=AAPL

    The stock ticker is draggable, like Google Maps, and shows a marker for each news item (listed on the side). Also, as you scroll the ticker (by dragging it), the news items change to show items relevant to the timeframe displayed.

    I'd say well done Google.

    1. Re:I just noticed by mblase · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The stock ticker is draggable, like Google Maps

      Not quite like Google Maps; this stock chart is produced with Flash 8, not AJAX/DHTML/JS/whatever you want to call it.

      Not a problem for me, or (I expect) for its target audience. Still, I think this is the first time Google has built something using Flash instead of AJAX, so it's notable just for that.

    2. Re:I just noticed by Ced_Ex · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not a problem for me, or (I expect) for its target audience. Still, I think this is the first time Google has built something using Flash instead of AJAX, so it's notable just for that.

      Doesn't Google Video use flash?

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  6. Uhhh.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Uhh...

    Maybe if the submitter took a few steps beyond that first page, he'd see how mind-crushingly awesome this service is. I mean.. they made a crawler to actually get pictures of company officers?

    Not to mention that their graphing software is really, really slick. Head and shoulders above Yahoo.

  7. Hacked Together? by SWeinig · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I would hardly call it 'hacked together', the graphing utility alone constitutes real UI thought.

  8. Nothing to see here by jfengel · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wow, that's just about nuthin'. The portfolio page asks for Stock, Amount, and Price, but not Trading Date (necessary to figure out annual yields). The resulting page doesn't list news for those companies, just the current stock price.

    I use the Yahoo Finance page to track my portfolio. It's redundant with my actual brokerage page, but the brokerage is much more paranoid about automatically logging me out, so a simple check is often a pain. Fortunately, for me keeping the two in synch is easy because I trade only a few times a year.

    Google's got a loooooong way to go before I abandon that. I have faith that they can, but for the moment I wouldn't call this Beta. Usually when Google calls something "Beta" it at least shows one cool thing. This is just a "me, too" page.

    1. Re:Nothing to see here by mblase · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The resulting page doesn't list news for those companies, just the current stock price.

      Really? I clicked on the link to AAPL and saw not just stock info and news--linked to dates on the chart, no less--but Company Facts, Company Summary, Company Financials, Management, Related Companies, and links to Blog Posts (courtesy of Google Blog Search, natch) and discussions hosted by Google. That's almost twice as much information as I got from Yahoo's default page.

  9. Some nice features by RingDev · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "seems to be too plain and looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together"

    Yeah, in the same way google.com looks "quickly hacked together"

    Just for fun I pulled up my 401k investments. The time line was nice, and the information was good. But I figured I'd check out the 401k's investment since I started investing in it. I clicked the 3yr link at the top of the chart and it made a pretty cool re-size effect, and the top bar changed too. Looks like you can click and drag either side of the total time line bar to change the zoom to any time period for the fund.

    Pretty neat, and definitely not 'quickly hacked together'

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  10. Re:First Error??? by generic-man · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's probably because Google thinks its own index knows more about companies than folks like Hoovers do. Most search results for "wipro vivek paul" suggest that Paul is still with the company.

    Google's search engine falls short in other ways, too. They think my employer is still at the same office it was at three years ago, for example, because all the copycat linkfarm sites they index say so.

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  11. Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... by MoofOntario · · Score: 5, Informative

    Add CM to my portfolio....

    hmm.. "Could not find the requested symbol"

    Right, and no symbol search for the noobs.. that's going to be convenient. Oh well, try Adding CM.TO instead.

    "We will support international symbols soon"

    Right. Then maybe I'll give it a try "soon". Back to yahoo for me. (Add this to the other complaints people are having)

    -Moof

  12. Take a look at stock page by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Enter a stock and see the page that comes up. Despite the fact it uses Flash it is actually nicely implemented. Drag the viewing range of the stock around and you will see the associated news entries change to show what happened in those periods - nice!

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  13. Bah! No message boards ... by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 3, Funny

    How am I supposed to pump and dump? bash and stash?

  14. plain and hacked together? by tvon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Would you prefer if there were obfuscated controls and banner ads?

    Do you want to go ahead and quickly hack up a page like this:

    http://finance.google.com/finance?cid=16701613

    ?

    Google thrives on the simple and powerful interfaces they create. It's half of what got them where they are today.

  15. Plain? Are you kidding? by Pedrito · · Score: 4, Informative

    The site finance.google.com seems to be too plain and looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together.

    Obviously you didn't get past the first page which is thankfully as close to plain as it can be. Here's one very good argument for having a very plain front page: It loads fast. Then you get where you really want to be faster.

    Even on the main page there's some technically cool stuff. Hover over the market indexes and the graph changes to the one you're hovering over. They've got that in a few places. Go to the main page for a ticker and hover over individuals listed in Management and it gives you more info. In fact, if you do it on the GOOG ticker, it even shows pictures in the pop-up.

    Trying hovering over the graph and it gives you data specific to the day or time that you're hovering over in the upper right. You can scroll the graphs to look back in history instead of having to change the time periods. You can select a fixed time period like Yahoo, or you can drag the start and end of the time period for the graph. This is some cool stuff.

    Now, when you call it "plain", what are you comparing it to? Yahoo? Because Yahoo isn't anywhere near this tricked-out. As for the data, it doesn't appear to be any more out of date than Yahoo's data. It has the real time ECN just like Yahoo and the rest of the market data is probably 15-20 minutes delayed just like every other free financial site on the web.

    Personally, my first impression is that it's exceptionally well designed. It's a great first cut and barring any major disasters, I suspect I'll switch over to it from Yahoo Finance.

  16. Re:Quick. Clean. by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not a bad way of doing things.

    One thing Google learned from search is that people prefer simple. Provided an app does something useful, it's better in my view for it to start lacking some features than for it to drag useless, distracting, and poorly thought out features along for the rest of its natural lifespan. Let the users clamor for what they want, and cherry pick the low hanging fruit, repeating ad infinitum.

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  17. Re:Very limited. by moonty · · Score: 2, Informative

    Other products in the same class (free stock reports, essentially, right?) also have 15 or 20 minute delays, it's not a specific disadvantage to Google Finance.
    Google Finance stock delays
    Yahoo Finance stock delays
    MSN Money stock delays

    Besides that, Google News left beta in January... doesn't seem they've stopped developing that, at the very least.

  18. Long term view by caudron · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The information is collected from various sources rather than a direct feed from the stock exchanges, making it probably less useful for buy & sell decisions.

    Yes, but the nature of the data collected and the way in which it is presented (the clear connection between event and price change and other things) makes it quite useful for planning investment strategy for a given company.

    As with any such site, more research would have to be done for a given long term investment, but this does make a great starting place for that research. That is the great benefit to being the aggregator rather than the source. They pull together a lot of data from some other great sources and put it together in a way that makes the whole better, in some ways, than the sum of the parts. (C.f., Google News for another example)

    At risk of sounding like a GOOG fanboy, they've batted another home run. We get a solid resource for long term investment, and they get access to our portfolios. Everyone wins (excepting the privacy concerns that are a legitimate tangent to nearly every google story).

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  19. Re:Google is in Everything by eric_brissette · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Google's in the business of making information easy to find/access. I would say this falls under that category.

  20. Re:Very limited. by yaddayaddaslashdot · · Score: 2, Interesting
    no real time quotes...

    unless, of course, you consider the real time quotes.

    search for a ticker symbol. right above the chart, you'll see a line that starts "Real-Time ECN:" that is a real-time quote.

  21. Re:Quick. Clean. by christopherfinke · · Score: 2, Informative
    It's clean because it doesn't do anything...there's a few lines of text and...not much else....
    Try signing in and clicking on the Portfolio link in the upper right. It allows you to enter what stocks you own, how many shares, and what price you bought them at. It then tracks the return on your investment. Even if you don't own stocks, you could use this for easy virtual trading to try your hand at the market.
  22. Actually, a pretty neat community awareness thing by mixonic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So I looked at this initially with the same elitism and disdain of any slashdotter...but take a look at this link of google: http://www.google.com/finance?q=google&btnG=Search &hl=en

    Ignore the stupid sliders, and maybe yahoo already did all this but...

    - Flags on signifigant news and where it fell on the stock's timeline, COOL

    - Blog posts about the company, ties into the current buzz, COOL

    - Hooks into google groups to see discussions going on about said company, COOL

    Simply a great way to see where a company is both financially, and in the net community's eyes. Simple, but neat.

    Oh, and check out Viacom: http://www.google.com/finance?cid=703770
    The blog posts about tom cruise and south park? see, that is damn cool.

    -mix

  23. Looks good, charts lacking... by cyngus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Overall I think it looks good. One thing I really like about the chart is that as you change the date it updates the news articles to that time period, which is great if you're just looking at a new stock and want to see what that 30% dip 10 months ago was about. On the downside, the little boxes linking to the news stories are nice, but overall annoying, there should be a way to turn them off. Having them on the chart makes it much harder to read technically. Charting should also have at least basic technical analysis tools like Yahoo! Finance where you can get moving averages, volatility metrics, etc. Plus, you've got to have the ability to view the chart on a logarithmic scale. Its a nice start, but its not enough to get me to start using it instead of Yahoo! Finance. If they enrich the charting capabilities, then we might be in business.