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Apple Begins Fixing MacBook Pro Issues

Hack Jandy writes "For those of you who bought one of the first generation Macbook Pros, a new replacement may be in your future. Flickering LCDs, overheating and intermittent WiFi connections are all common place for many of these first generation machines, but apparently Apple is fixing the problem. The article claims 'According to Apple, it has begun replacing the mainboard inside its MacBook Pros with a new revision. It calls the updated product "revision D," which is identifiable by product serial number.' If you have a reservation at an Apple Store, they may even replace your MBP with a new one."

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  1. Nice! by Sonic+McTails · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sweet. Apple's warrenty and repair service has never managed to let me down. Most other companies would state that the problem is in the users head, and save themselves $$$ by ignoring the issue.

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    1. Re:Nice! by xwipeoutx · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Clearly, you're not using Dell.

    2. Re:Nice! by the+argonaut · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sadly, my experience with my iMac G5 monitor has not been so great. If it's in use for more than an hour or two (actually, anytime after startup - 8 or so hours of being on, but usually within an hour or two), a green line appears going down the screen. I explained this to their phone support. They said take it into the Apple Store. I did. Of course, the "Mac Idiot" couldn't see the problem, because it USUALLY ONLY SHOW UP AFTER THE COMPUTER HAS BEEN IN USE FOR A WHILE. The asshole "genius" said he couldn't do anything, and I had to take my 'puter home. I'll be back in next weekend with pics of the error, and if he knows what's good for him and his children and his children's children, he'll send it in for repair.

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    3. Re:Nice! by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 5, Funny
      I sure as hell know which company my $2500 is going to next time around...

      I like Dell too, but I don't know if I'd buy 4 of them.

  2. What if you don't have one? by Spytap · · Score: 4, Funny

    they may even replace your MBP with a new one.
    That's nice, what do I have to do to get them to replace my 3 year old iBook with a new Mac Book Pro? That's infinitely more interesting to me ;)

    1. Re:What if you don't have one? by Blastrogath · · Score: 4, Funny

      > That's nice, what do I have to do to get them to replace my 3 year old iBook with a new Mac Book Pro? That's infinitely more interesting to me ;)

      Do you still have 2 healthy kidneys?

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    2. Re:What if you don't have one? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do you still have 2 healthy kidneys?

      Won't work. Steve Jobs is a vegetarian.

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  3. Re:Why? by Spytap · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why do people even buy first generation products anymore? Why not just wait until the 2nd or 3rd generation when these problems are weeded out?

    Because if no one buys the first generation, there isn't any second or third generation to buy...

  4. Refurbs! by saihung · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hopefully this means that we'll get some sweet, sweet refurbished lovin from the Apple Store. I can't imagine that Apple will simply scrap the defective machines - or am I just not imagining hard enough?

  5. The Big Question Is: by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Funny

    How long will the repair take?

    I know some of the /bots are barely willing to part with their precious laptops while they sleep, much less for a week to get the mobo replaced.

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    1. Re:The Big Question Is: by mhore · · Score: 4, Informative
      How long will the repair take?

      I've had my stuff replaced by Apple in the past (1st gen 15" Al PowerBook. Doh!). Basically it goes:

      1) Get box from DHL
      2) They receive laptop by the next day, fix it, and drop it off at DHL.
      3) You get nice new laptop back.

      Takes about 3 days total.

      Mike.

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    2. Re:The Big Question Is: by Knightmare · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I had to part with my 15 inch titanium powerbook Sunday and they said it would take two weeks to get it back. It's a really slick process when you have something wrong with your machine. I called support and said um.... ya it doesn't turn on and he said you live close to an apple store would you like to drop it off for them to diagnose it. So I said sure and he set me up a "Genius Bar" appointment while I was on the phone. I showed up and they called my name ran a bunch of diagnostics and said yep... it's broke. So I cried a little bit until he pried it out of my hands.

      But I didn't let that stop my Mac fever, oh no! I have been wanting a Mac Mini for awhile and now had a perfect reason/excuse! So I bought the Core Duo and headed home to set it up and continue feeding my addiction.

      It's really funny, I used to make fun of Mac users because it was so cult like, but then OS X came out and all the suck went away and I got drawn towards the light. I guess long story short, you can put me on the list of people that wouldn't want to be without mine for an extended period. All my windows boxes are gone, it's just my PB and my linux firewall/fileserver/proxy/dev/dhcp/ntp/Myth Tv/asterisk server. And I guess the new family member my Mac Mini.

  6. Caveat Canem by hugg · · Score: 5, Informative

    Beware first generation hardware, and if you decide to load the chamber and pull the trigger, get Applecare. I went through *three* iBook G3's before Apple replaced it with a shiny new iBook G4. Nice of them, but I would really rather have my 40 hours of lost productivity back.

    1. Re:Caveat Canem by jfengel · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think he meant "caveat emptor", "let the buyer beware". "Cave canem" is "Beware of the dog". "Caveat canem" isn't actually valid Latin; it's a sentence without a subject.

  7. Re:Reminds me of that sweet Powerbook 5200 by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Informative

    There were two known cases of *prototype* 5200s with batteries manufactured by Sony "catching fire".

    From then on, the 5200 had the reputation of the PowerBook that "caught fire", but there were no know or reported incidents.

    I guess basically what I'm saying is this: you're lying, or trolling, or both. I kind of think you're trolling because you say it's "pretty embarrassing" to explain that. No it's not. It's not embarrassing at all. If your freaking laptop really did catch fire, it's not because of something you did. But since no consumer issues were logged for the PowerBook 5200 on this issue - and when verified, that is an *extremely serious issue* that requires action - I don't believe you.

    Also, Apple has, over the years, maintained a fairly consistent number one position in initial quality, lack of need for repairs, and product support, according to Consumer Reports. This has been consistently maintained, and remains so to this day. Also, the iPod destroys your mass production argument.

    Good troll, though. This could replace the "ok, so I'm sitting here and it's taking 17 minutes to copy a 4 meg file from my Power Mac G5" one!

  8. There's the problem, by ScrewMaster · · Score: 5, Funny

    Flicking LCDs, overheating and intermitting WiFi connections are all common place

    If you people would stop flicking your LCD panels around they probably wouldn't break so often. They're quite delicate you know.

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  9. I respect Apple... by Zweideutig · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not every company will (without hesitation) own up to its mistakes and be generous enough to offer repairs. Even good products can have problems early on. I have owned many laptops over the years and have found IBM Thinkpads and Apple iBooks/Powerbooks to be some of the best. I currently own a G4 iBook as well as an older Wallstreet Powerbook 233 MHz G3 (great for running Darwin). These only problems I have had with either machine have been the CD tray failing to eject once on the iBook (I am running Debian PPC Sarge) and a dead PRAM battery in the old Powerbook (to be expected due to its age). Both of these computers are running 24/7 except when I put the iBook to sleep to keep the disk parked when I transport it each day. Some of my other laptops I own, like my Dell Latitude and Armada have suffered from hinge problems, display problems, etc. I have taken apart the Latitude so many times to repair it that the screws are loose. I plan to buy a Macbook in the near future if I don't see any Intel-based iBooks soon. Even though iBooks require significant disassembly to replace things such as the HDD or logic board, I haven't had to do this. And if I ever do, it will be fun. I think we can expect the next generation of Macbooks to be very reliable. Even this generation should be suitable with the logic board revision applied.

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  10. XP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    A stock copy of Windows XP won't install on my MacBook.

    I have contacted Apple numerous times without any response.. what the hell kind of support is that?

    I really hope they fix my issue or I am going to be a pissed off Apple customer.

  11. "Moo"ing scared the crap out of me.. by ModernGeek · · Score: 4, Funny

    ..I was in the libraries basement working on a project, and the macbook pro kept making the intermittent "moo" sound. It was about 11 at night, and no one else was around, so it scared the crap out of me, it sounded like a distant ghost. I felt like an idiot after searching the whole library trying to find out what the noise was when it was right in front of me! I guess I need to make an appointment with the closest apple store to get a replacement.

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    1. Re:"Moo"ing scared the crap out of me.. by Stormwatch · · Score: 4, Funny

      Aaahh! It's the ghost of Clarus the dogcow! o.O

    2. Re:"Moo"ing scared the crap out of me.. by vistic · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's the ghost of the old Gateway laptop you got rid of when you got your brand new MacBook Pro.

  12. My experiences with a new W8612 by ben_rh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If anyone's interested, I just picked up a new 2GHz Macbook Pro yesterday, serial number starting with W8612.

    I have the CPU whine, which is fixed by running MagicNoiseKiller. Not a problem at all, since I just set it as a startup item.

    My screen is perfect, no flickering or dead pixels, really bright and vivid. Once MagicNoiseKiller has done its thing, this laptop is really pretty incredibly quiet - a lot better than the Toshiba P4 mode it's replacing.

    I think the recent cries to the effect that Apple's build quality is slipping are pretty overrated - this laptop feels incredibly solid and well built. I'm a very happy Apple customer - to the point of chuckling madly.

  13. Re:Reminds me of that sweet Powerbook 5200 by daveschroeder · · Score: 4, Informative

    Your fanboyness is seriously clouding your judgement.

    Huh? Where's the "fanboyness"?

    Do some research and you will find that they have problems with almost every product they produce. This isn't unique to them. It's common.

    Actually, I don't disagree with this at all. Considering I've been working with Apple products in varying capacities for over 22 years, I've seen *plenty* of problems, and publicly take Apple to task for various issues (e.g. 1, 2, 3, etc...and that's just from the last couple days.)

    Apple products have problems, defects, and failures, like any other product.

    The point I'm making is that they are no more perfect than anyone else so get over it. Overall they make good quality stuff but so do many other companies.

    No, no one's "perfect". But Apple actually is better, statistically. By the measure of various consumer reporting organizations like Consumer reports, they are consistently (valid from a statistical standpoint) better than all other computer manufacturers in the categories of support, repairs, and quality in a quantifiable way. Someone's got to be the statistical best in these categories, and Apple is consistently it. Sorry to disappoint.

    What of it? Is this guy not alowed to have a problem with his iBook without some fanboy flaming him?

    Um, "a problem"? Catching on fire is "a problem"? No, it was a myth of epic proportions that never affected any shipped consumer units for which Apple suffered on its portable line for years afterward. See this post for numerous examples of proof of this.

    Oh yeah, I forgot...clearly he must be a troll...

    If the shoe fits...

  14. Re:But... but... but... QWZX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    To be fair, the laptops only caught fire because they got too close to the light that shines out of Steve Jobs' asshole.

  15. Re:Reminds me of that sweet Powerbook 5200 by daveschroeder · · Score: 4, Informative

    No. It was a myth because no 5300 in consumer hands was ever known to have exhibited any fire problems. It was an occurrence in a laboratory setting with a Sony Lithium Ion battery. And I'm dismissing it as a myth because it was. People talked about the 5300 like it was the PowerBook that routinely caught on fire. Except that it was a problem with only Lithium Ion batteries, and only 100 units actually got into end-user hands, none of which were known to have exhibited the issue (no, really - no one has EVER recorded any fire issue in consumer hands with the 5300 (except one person here, today, coincidentally, claiming that he had one that caught on fire)).

    And I do know that because my job for the past 11 years has been to be intimately familiar with all Apple products, problems, business issues, etc., from all perspectives, supporting one of the top three largest institutional Apple sites in the world. The 5300 issue was a myth, period. It was the thing everyone asked about when they were thinking of buying an Apple laptop. "Oh, is this the one that catches on fire?" And the store staff would explain to them, no, there was an overheating/fire incident with a Sony LiIon battery in a 5300 in Apple's testing lab, and all LiIon 5300's were recalled. Every battery after that was NiMH. So, yeah, it was true that a 5300 "caught on fire". A prototype, in a lab. Tens of thousands were shipped, all but 100 without LiIon batteries, and even those LiIon units were all recalled, with no issues reported to regulators (except for the one person here claiming that it happened to him and that he "never reported it").

    So, that's why it's a "myth". Because it is. Someone else summed it up nicely here.

    Also, I did ask him for proof, which he sidestepped by calling me a "stupid goon". I predict no such "proof" is forthcoming, but if it indeed exists, I told him I'd be more than interested in seeing it since it would be the first known actual 5300 fire incident in consumer hands, that conveniently was never reported to Apple or any regulatory or consumer agency, unearthed about a decade later.

  16. Bullshit alert- 5300 fires A MYTH by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Informative
    Ahhh, the great "Powerbook 5300's caught on fire!" myth.

    A unit (ONE, 1, Uno) AT APPLE caught fire because the BATTERY MANUFACTURER (Hi Sony!) LIED about the specs of the Lithium Ion battery. ~1000 units had shipped to resellers and ~100 made it to customers, but Apple was able to get them ALL back. None of them caught fire except the lab unit.

    http://www.tidbits.com/tb-issues/tidbits-295.htm l#lnk2

    In short: 1)Apple's supplier was at fault, not Apple. 2)Apple caught the problem and acted immediately instead of waiting for consumers to discover the problem.

    Seems like they did everything right, chief. Next time, troll harder.