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Two Legged Robot Sets Speed Record

An anonymous reader writes "Researchers in Germany and Scotland have made the fastest two-legged robot yet (for its size) called RunBot. It is controlled by a simple program that mimics the way neurons control reflexes in humans and other animals. From the article: 'We wanted to show that a very simple system with a simple neuronal controller could walk in a natural manner - and fast,' says Florentin Wörgötter, from the University of Göttingen in Germany. The story also features couple of videos of RunBot in action."

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  1. How is it fast compared to a human? by klack · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How many leg-length per second can the "average" human achieve?

    1. Re:How is it fast compared to a human? by ShaniaTwain · · Score: 4, Funny

      How many leg-length per second can the "average" human achieve?
       
      A lot less than this thing once its perfected and turned into a meat-powered robot.

      What the hell are thoses scientists up to? Why don't we just go ahead and program them to bat us around a bit before they eat us?
       
        Sheeesh.

    2. Re:How is it fast compared to a human? by lovedew · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Human can walk at an average of 4km per hour, that's about 1.11 meter per second.

      A leg is about 1 meter long, so maybe the average human can do about 1-2 leg-length per second?

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    3. Re:How is it fast compared to a human? by bartyboy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wrong.

      One leg per second is equal to a football field multiplied by a VW Beetle, divided by a fortnight per Library of Congress.

      Sheesh. What do they teach in schools these days?

    4. Re:How is it fast compared to a human? by rrohbeck · · Score: 2, Informative

      Taking my 34" inseam, 3.5 leg lengths/s would be 3.02 m/s or a 9-minute mile. Easy long run pace.

  2. Leg lengths per second? by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've heard of feet per second, but legs?

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  3. Runnin' by filtur · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll feel safe as long as I can still outrun our robot overlords.

  4. Re:Cheetah by x2A · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ah, the famous two-legged cheetah... probably yeah.

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  5. videos by mcguyver · · Score: 4, Informative

    Two mpeg videos show RunBot (4.9M) walking at a steady speed and (15M) gradually learning to walk more rapidly.

    Get'em while they're hot, ;)

    1. Re:videos by Yvanhoe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While I ackowledge the achievement of a robot that 'learns' to walk faster, I am disapointed that it has no balance. In the video it only hangs to a rigid tube, it can't fall on the side, hence the cheap leg structure.

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  6. It's a start, but.... by Giant+Ape+Skeleton · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...I won't be impressed until a two-robot team wins a three-legged race.

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    1. Re:It's a start, but.... by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 4, Interesting

      i think a human-robot team would be more impressive, because you can probablly program a robot to synchronize with another identical robot easier than you can program it to synchronize with a human being.

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  7. First video by cejones · · Score: 5, Funny

    I love how it busts right at the end of video 1. They should have a sensor on its head to sensor when the head touches the ground.. . That should trigger a Homer-esque "D'oh!"

  8. How fast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Slashdot posts a story saying somebody made a robot that runs really fast, why the heck doesn't it say how fast the thing runs in the summary? Eh? EH???

  9. On a related note by Z1NG · · Score: 3, Funny

    The two women who actually read /. are hoping scientist don't put so much effort into their robots finishing quickly when they produce a three-legged bot.

  10. Remember kids... by vertinox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You don't have to be faster than the killer robot.
    You just need to be faster than that any other humans you happen to be with.

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  11. Re:Not all that impressive by Tipa · · Score: 2, Funny

    Could be worse. On Digg, the title would be "All Humans Will Walk With Bionic Legs By 2007!!!!"

  12. Re:Um, does anyone else see the rod? by rjstanford · · Score: 4, Informative

    It can walk but can't maintain verticality? Is it there to stabilize it? That's pretty lame if they don't even have to worry about keeping its center of balance ... that's the hardest thing to figure out about fluid bipedal motion!

    Probably just to stop the experiment needing a shitload of space without worrying about explicit turning. Of course, you could have just quoted the entire paragraph (two sentences) - bold face added:

    RunBot currently walks around the edge of a circular room and is connected the centre of the room by a boom. But Wörgötter plans to develop a freestanding version next, and thinks it should be straightforward because the boom has only a small influence on its ability to walk.

    Doesn't seem quite so problematic now, does it?

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  13. Re:video? by MustardMan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wait, so now we have to replace RTFA with RTFC? Jeez, no wonder geeks are all so unhealthy... look at how lazy we are!

  14. Runbot by zippthorne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Althought called "runbot" it's actually a speedwalkerbot. at least that's all the videos show. At no point are fewer than one foot on the ground.

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    1. Re:Runbot by MickLinux · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, I know that the dynamics of running -- one leap after another -- are possibly more complicated than, and definitely different than the dynamics for walking. Nonetheless, I always used to like our cross-country club races (when I did run CC, and later when I'd watch my brother run) in the Shenandoah Valley. There were a few "English walkers" who would outwalk quite a few runners. That includes me. It's just a little embarassing to be struggling along, still leaping from leg to leg in that slow hobble that we call "long distance running", and have somebody breezily walk past you (same direction) and offer a little how-do-you-do.

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    2. Re:Runbot by AGMW · · Score: 2, Interesting
      You were using too much of your energy to push up, rather than forward. Your feet may leave the ground, the trick is to not have to let most of your weight change height too much in any given stride (up too high, you have to catch it on the way down. Down too low, gotta push it back up). Saves lots of energy.

      Tell that to the Kangaroos! They have one of the most efficient bidepal locomotion stratagies because as they land they stretch two massive tendons and store all the kinetic energy, which they then use to bounce themselves aloft once more.

      From the linked page ...
      Running is a strange means of locomotion that involves bouncing up and down, as well as moving forward. This bouncing is aided by the elastic nature of the Achilles tendon at the back of the foot, which acts like an elastic band, stretching when we put our foot down, and then pulling back to its relaxed length to propel us upward. This conserves a considerable amount of energy during running, raising the energy efficiency from 25 to 40 percent or more. And training increases the elasticity of the tendon, whereas aging decreases elasticity, making running less efficient. Kangaroos are the ultimate masters of this pogo stick effect, which enables them to increase from 5 to 20 kilometers per hour without using any extra energy -- just more bounce.

      I, for one, welcome our robotic bouncing kangaroo overlords.

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    3. Re:Runbot by PitaBred · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The kangaroos are storing the energy on coming down, and releasing most of it coming back up. A human doesn't have the same kind of mechanical advantage, and relies on muscle power to do the up and down motion. Therefore, it's more efficient for a human to keep vertical motion to a minimum so that the majority of the energy can be devoted to forward locomotion. The achilles tendon does help with humans, but it's not to the same extent as in kangaroos. Besides, if you watch a kangaroo when it's just moving at a good clip across open ground, their bodies and centers of mass actually don't move vertically very much, it's just their legs.

  15. Qurio's the runner? by M0b1u5 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Didn't Qurio claim to be the world's first "running" robot?

    I always thought Qurio was great: push him over and no matter what orientation he ends up in, he can get back to his feet again. I think it's not too far away that after they get up off the ground, they come over and slap you for pushing them over...

    As to the whole walking thing - it's a fascinating topic I think:

    1) walking is a controlled fall, the only thing preventing you from going face-first into the pavement is that next foot fall.

    2) Maximum cruising speed is attained in a single revolution. No other animal or engine can claim the same (AFAIK).

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  16. 1 question by hurfy · · Score: 2, Funny

    How is it a 2-legged robot?

    Without the boom it will fall over, nor could it walk.

    Of course it can't even STOP , that might be a minor issue for usefulness ;p

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  17. Tethered? by Pedrito · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Call be back when it's untethered, has arms, and can stand itself back up after it trips. Then I'll be impressed. Until then, it's no more impressive than a bot on wheels.

  18. Oblig. Simpsons by MaXiMiUS · · Score: 5, Funny

    C:\DOS
    C:\DOS\RUN
    RUN DOS RUN

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  19. Re:A first: a clueless MIT researcher by misleb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think he's just saying that our robot overlords won't be much larger than a human. Relax. It's good news.

    -matthew

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  20. Amazing..! by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And this is what Kevin Kelly says in his excellent book Out of Control (The New Biology of Machines, Social Systems, and the Economic World). Start with small and dumb machines, follow nature and gradually build up the complexity. The efforts of creating one machine which does it all is going to fail.

  21. YES BUT by popetty · · Score: 2, Funny

    They need to change run, to dance. Also, they need to include that it was rocking out to Mr. Roboto. DOMO ARIGATO MR ROBOT *FUUEEEEEWWWW**FUUEEEEEWWWW*

  22. I, for one... by metroplex · · Score: 3, Funny

    welcome the lack of any obvious "I for one welcome our new two-legged running robotic speed record breaker overlords" jokes so far. :P

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  23. Scary by kraksmokr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That is teh creepiest freaking thing I have ever seen.

  24. Re:Um, does anyone else see the rod? by Illserve · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But Wörgötter plans to develop a freestanding version next, and thinks it should be straightforward because the boom has only a small influence on its ability to walk.

    Well what do you expect him to say, that this approach is hopelessly limited?

    This isn't the first time we've seen great mobility from tethered robots, but somehow these guys never manage to produce the untethered version. Getting power and proper balancing to an untethered robot seems to be the critical stumbling block and I would be shocked if this one doesn't hit the same issues.

  25. Gromit! by jpellino · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's the Wrong Trousers!

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  26. The million-dollar robot by Kingrames · · Score: 5, Funny

    But can they build him faster? stronger?

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  27. Gait generation, White paper by m0nstr42 · · Score: 2, Informative

    This thing walks in a circle and is connected to a boom - it can't walk freely. All the legs have to worry about is front/back balance, and not side to side. Of course, making that obvious in the headline or summary would make the article seem much less interesting, and we couldn't have that, now could we?

    Accepted. But that wasn't really the point of the research. If you RTFA and RTFWP (white paper), these guys are more interested in neuroscience. So what they did was design a simple mechanical system and a simple controller that both mimic the actual physical/physiological function of human legs. Balancing has alot to do with the structure of the foot and our ability to shift weight and is more of a dynamics issue. What these guys did was gait generation, which sounds simple (one foot after the other), but when you sit down and start trying to work out the details, its not so easy.

    A similar (theoretical) study which actually addresses balancing (this time for insects with six legs):
    J.E. Seipel, P. Holmes and R.J. Full (2004) Biological Cybernetics 91, 76-90. Dynamics and stability of insect locomotion: a hexapedal model for horizontal plane motions.

  28. Yes but can it moon walk? by wubboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yes but can it moon walk? Though I am not sure I want to see moonwalking again anyway.

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  29. In the words of the great... by Elitist_Phoenix · · Score: 2, Funny

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