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The History of Easter Candy

tanagra writes "The days are longer, the sun is brighter, the colors are rich, and the candies are pastel. It's springtime once again, and in celebration of its triumphant return we enter into the saccharin sanctity of a world filled with Marshmallow Peeps, Jelly Beans, and other well packaged bits of sweetness sure to bring about a sugar-induced coma. Join us as we delve into the delectable not-so-distant past of Easter candy and learn, among other things, just how Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world."

261 comments

  1. Huh? by EvilIdler · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I've never heard of Marshmallow Peeps. Are they our secret masters?

    1. Re:Huh? by De+Lemming · · Score: 5, Informative

      I've never heard of Marshmallow Peeps. Are they our secret masters?

      As an European, neither had I. Sweet Wikipedia to the rescue!

      I like this part: The messy and largely self-entertaining game, "Peep Jousting" is played with a microwave. One takes two Peeps, and licks the right-hand side of each until sticky. A toothpick is thereby adhered to each Peep, pointing forward like a jousting lance. The Peeps are then set in a microwave, squared off against one another, and heated up. As they expand, the toothpick lances thrust toward each opponent, and the winner is the one that does not pop and deflate.

    2. Re:Huh? by Isotopian · · Score: 1

      Well I, for one, Welcome our new Peeps Overlords.

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    3. Re:Huh? by rapidweather · · Score: 1

      USAToday.com had a feature on this treat yesterday on their front page, complete with a picture of one.
        I didn't click on it, rather have jellybeans.

    4. Re:Huh? by wrmrxxx · · Score: 1
      I've never seen one either. I had heard of them only through the US media but didn't really know what they were. I guess when the author of the article said
      achieved somewhat of a "cult" status all over the world
      the author's world didn't include Europe or Australia. I wonder if Asia is part of the world?
    5. Re:Huh? by Anonymous+Meoward · · Score: 1

      I've never heard of Marshmallow Peeps. Are they our secret masters?

      Yes.

      One peep to rule them all,
      With Easter now behind them.
      'Cuz one peep is all it takes
      To constipate and bind them.

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  2. Easter Candy! Hooray! by lazuli42 · · Score: 3, Funny

    When I saw this article being posted, I let out a little peep.

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    1. Re:Easter Candy! Hooray! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      I hear there's medications you can take for that kind of thing now.

    2. Re:Easter Candy! Hooray! by thewiz · · Score: 4, Funny

      Perhaps you should change your underwear now.

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    3. Re:Easter Candy! Hooray! by FreonTrip · · Score: 1

      Did it hurt?

    4. Re:Easter Candy! Hooray! by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 1

      OMG Ponies!!!! Hooray!!!

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    5. Re:Easter Candy! Hooray! by beacher · · Score: 1

      And submit the results to Peep research. This is such an old site, and I'm surprised that nobody's posted it..... The funniest is when they see what happens when peeps smoke and drink.....

    6. Re:Easter Candy! Hooray! by SEWilco · · Score: 1
      I hear there's medications you can take for that kind of thing now.
      I think they're called sugar pills.
    7. Re:Easter Candy! Hooray! by MrCopilot · · Score: 1
      When I saw this article being posted, I let out a little peep.

      I hope you neutered it first those little fsckers multiply like mad.

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  3. I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...welcome our puffy sugary overlords..

    1. Re:I for one... by mickyflynn · · Score: 0

      you mean the average American? *ducks*

    2. Re:I for one... by KDR_11k · · Score: 1
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    3. Re:I for one... by charlesnw · · Score: 1

      Yes. But do they run Linux? Can you imagine a beowulf cluster of them. *shudders*

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  4. Cadbury Eggs - my secret master by ChePibe · · Score: 4, Funny

    OK, so they're actually my wife's secret master. Last night, we spent over an hour driving to and looking in three different grocery stores all in a vain quest to find Cadbury eggs. This even included a trip to Wal-Mart on a Saturday night, something I recommend to no man who wishes to keep his car undinged, his sense of dignity whole, and the smell of the quite literally unwashed masses from accompanying him...

    1. Re:Cadbury Eggs - my secret master by doubletruncation · · Score: 1

      I know, I can't believe it's so hard to find cadbury eggs around easter! This is the second year in a row that I haven't been able to find a single one for my wife after going to several stores.

    2. Re:Cadbury Eggs - my secret master by nursegirl · · Score: 1

      Here in Canada, Cadbury pulled a whole bunch of eggs about a month ago, because plastic was found in some. I don't know whether that happened in other countries as well, but we've had a significant shortage of eggs here (the factories weren't able to manufacture enough eggs in time for Easter). Luckily, I prefer the mini-eggs, and they've been available everywhere.

    3. Re:Cadbury Eggs - my secret master by MoriaOrc · · Score: 1

      Better yet, tommorrow all the easter candy goes on sale. I know I plan to take a trip to the store to pick up a few packs of Cadburry Eggs for about half off. The easter candy section usually looks like it's been hit by no less then three simultanious natural disasters, though, and it can make actually finding the eggs a bit difficult.

    4. Re:Cadbury Eggs - my secret master by kingturkey · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you lived in Australia you'd find plenty of them, and they'd be all half price because here it's Monday :). I'm off to the shops to get me some cheap cadbury chocolate now.

    5. Re:Cadbury Eggs - my secret master by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      OK, so they're actually my wife's secret master. Last night, we spent over an hour driving to and looking in three different grocery stores all in a vain quest to find Cadbury eggs.

      Since they're your wife's secret master, and as evidenced by this store she is your not-so-secret master, I'd say it would be fair to refer to the Cadbury Eggs as your secret master as well. :)

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    6. Re:Cadbury Eggs - my secret master by Tingler · · Score: 1

      and it can make actually finding the eggs a bit difficult.

      Easter egg hunt! Yay! :)

  5. All started by one known rabbit by Man+in+Spandex · · Score: 4, Funny

    One thing we're sure of, the Easter Egg originated from the one and only Effram the Retarded Rabbit.

  6. Ummmmm by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Funny
    These days, nothing symbolizes Easter and Spring quite like your child throwing up marshmallow peeps. It's now a tradition rooted deep into the grain of our culture.
    Wha?
    I knew my childhood was missing something...
    But throwing up peeps?
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  7. Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Beg your pardon?

    Could that be another Duhmerican confusing his country with "the world"?
    I have not the slightest idea what marshmallows are and neither do most of my compatriots.

    1. Re:Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world? by Wizardry+Dragon · · Score: 1

      *blinks* I don't know what part of the world you're from, but all of my international friends know what marshmallow is. If not, google is your friend. ;) Now just to educate my Aussie friends on the marvels of fudge.

    2. Re:Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world? by mwilli · · Score: 0, Troll

      It always amazes me how vain many people are and how blind they are to the rest of the world. Also - WTF is this article doing on slashdot??? Slow news day??

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    3. Re:Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what kind of retard doesn't know what a marshmallow is?

    4. Re:Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world? by BruceCage · · Score: 2, Funny

      You must be from that other country, Europe.

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    5. Re:Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world? by Mr.+KFM · · Score: 1

      These days, nothing symbolizes Easter and Spring quite like your child throwing up marshmallow peeps. It's now a tradition rooted deep into the grain of our culture.

      It said our, not your.

      And people call us idiots. Apparently your country, with the majority of its citizens being intelligent; doesn't only let the brightest people use the Internet, either. Apparently it lets all of the dumbasses use it, too.

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    6. Re:Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world? by LaurenBC · · Score: 1
      Could that be another Duhmerican confusing his country with "the world"? I have not the slightest idea what marshmallows are and neither do most of my compatriots.

      Any excuse to flame America eh? I don't live in India yet I know their national currency, major religions and languages. I don't live in Australia but I've tasted Vegemite and even know that Foster's is Australian for beer! We're a global community, with all the benefits and drawbacks that come along with it. How GP got modded funny is beyond me, too much Easter chocolate?

      -A confused Canadian asking for it
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    7. Re:Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world? by tlynch001 · · Score: 1
      You don't know what a Marshmallow is?

      Ignorant savage. What the hell do you mix your rice crispies in?

    8. Re:Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't live in Australia but I've tasted Vegemite and even know that Foster's is Australian for beer!

      I doubt that many Australians have ever tasted Foster's, and if you ask for it at an Australian pub they will just assume you are a tourist.

      The beers most average Australians drink are VB, Tooheys (in NSW), XXXX (in Queensland), and various other beers that vary from state to state.

      Fosters: it's Australian for "tourists will drink any old piss!".

      Oh, and we have marshmallows here. I've never heard of "marshmallow peeps" before, though.

    9. Re:Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The difference is that no Australian would seriously claim that vegemite rules "the world".

    10. Re:Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world? by mbaciarello · · Score: 1

      GP is trollish and flame-ish, but you also missed the point. He's referring to the part where the blurb says "and learn, among other things, just how Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world."

      To be frank and international with you, marshmellows outside of North America rule Jack and shit... And Jack left town...

      (Bruce Campbell, instead, rules everywhere, period.)

    11. Re:Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world? by honkycat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or perhaps it's just an author engaging in a bit of hyperbole to spice up his article?

      Oh right, because he probably really did mean that marshmallow birds are actually ruling the United States, but he was so narrow-minded he thought that was the whole world.

    12. Re:Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world? by HillBilly · · Score: 1

      No, Fosters is Australian for shit, we give that crap to the tourists.

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    13. Re:Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      It would have been even worse if Europe was the "correct" answer. =)

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    14. Re:Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world? by zullnero · · Score: 1

      This is totally making my Easter...a flame war between Canadians and Australians, all fueling a thread created by an obvious troll.

    15. Re:Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world? by JourneyExpertApe · · Score: 1, Funny

      Beg your pardon?

      Could that be another Duhmerican confusing his country with "the world"?


      Peeps rule America. America rules the world. Ergo, peeps rule the world. Sheesh! We have to explain everything to you people.

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    16. Re:Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world? by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      an article about easter "tradition" on EASTER sunday is irrelevant? Are you saying easter doesn't matter or just that nerds aren't interested in candy?

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    17. Re:Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      GP is trollish and flame-ish, but you also missed the point. He's referring to the part where the blurb says "and learn, among other things, just how Marshmallow Peeps came to rule the world."
      Is irony one of those things you non-Americans don't understand, or are you only temporarily deprived of your irony-recognition abilities when your anti-American bile is provoked?
  8. Where'd the bunny come from? by dalutong · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I heard that it was a Anglo goddess named Eastre that took the form of a bunny/hare. Anyone else know anything about that? What about the eggs?

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    1. Re:Where'd the bunny come from? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be one of those Leporiphobiacs.

    2. Re:Where'd the bunny come from? by miskatonic+alumnus · · Score: 1

      What about the eggs?

      Pagan fertility festival.

      What I don't get is the bit about crosses being symbolic of the quarters of the moon. Indeed, several online sources including Wikipedia and Christian Churches of God indicate that the cross was used in connection with Sun worship.

    3. Re:Where'd the bunny come from? by glitch23 · · Score: 0

      Where ever the bunny came from it seems it is still too religious for the public eye for a city named after a saint http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/23/12552 1.shtml?s=ic. I guess non-Christians are more important than Christians when it comes to being offended despite the majority/minority ratio being in favor of Christians.

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    4. Re:Where'd the bunny come from? by scooter.higher · · Score: 1

      The way I heard it, the goddess Eastre (Ostara, Eostre, etc) saved a bird's life by changing it into a hare. The hare lived, but continued to lay eggs (from it's previous bird form). These eggs were then decorated and left as a gift to the goddess.

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    5. Re:Where'd the bunny come from? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The cross-in-circle was a pre-christian sun symbol in celtic countries at least. "Worship" of the sun is perhaps too strong a word. The sun just is, not sure it was "worshipped" the way a christian or muslim might understand the term. Handy for christians in Ireland, though, they just co-opted it and various other existing druidic (for lack of a better word, despite its hijacking by ridiculous new-agers) traditions. These days, you'll mostly see it on the gravestones of Irish-descended families around the world, except maybe france, where it's most unfortunately apparently become sort of far-right symbol, at least according to wikipedia entry (and we know how reliable they are...).
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_cross
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Cross

    6. Re:Where'd the bunny come from? by dalutong · · Score: 1

      facinating. Thanks!

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    7. Re:Where'd the bunny come from? by Jesus_666 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Almost correct, except for two details: It was a god and he was spelled "Astaire". Fred Astaire saw a dying bird and he danced for it. He danced so well that the bird became a completely healthy hare out of sheer amazement. Inspired by its great idol the hare changed his name to Roger Rabbit and began a mildly successful acting career.

      Concerning the eggs, it is widely accepted that Astaire liked his sacrifices scrambled, with a side-order of bacon.

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    8. Re:Where'd the bunny come from? by Bluude · · Score: 1

      Jesus was initially portrayed as a sun god by early christian artists.

      But the Celtic cross which includes the sun came about later when chistians tried to convert the sun worshipers of the Celtice regions into christians. (Hey, the sun is really important for warmth up in that region. The Christians just combined the two religions like they did with everything else.

      Heck, easter is nothing but a pagan spring fertility festival, hence the eggs and bunnies.
      The christians just took a celebration of life and love and made it about death and sorrow, well ok it is about rebirth too I guess, but maybe that was invented jut so they could convince people to follow their magic son of god jesus instead of those pagan gods that hadn't been seen for a while.

      Those silly christians just stole everything, and then killed anyone who said they did so.

    9. Re:Where'd the bunny come from? by TractorBarry · · Score: 1

      It was indeed a fertility goddess named Oestre and the Hare was one of her symbols as it is one of the few animals that can become pregnant even whilst gestating.

      Or to quote from the BBC:

      "Eostre, the hare-headed Anglo-Saxon goddess of spring whose festival was celebrated in April, was believed to lay the egg of new life. As such, the hare was the original symbol of Easter until early Christians, wanting to get rid of all things pagan, replaced the hare with the rabbit."

      See the same sort of thing on a nice compact page about the Green Man

      And the eggs are there becuase of their obvious connection with birth/rebirth so as is usual with most Christian festivals all you need do is go back a few layers and you can find an earlier cultural event (e.g. Xmas and the old mid winter festivals)

      Still, given the time I'm sure you could take Oestre back to an earlier deity etc. etc. right back to when the first hominids became conscious of the way new life tended to come forth in the spring.

      And then of course there's dead Cthulhu lying dreaming in his house ar R'lyeh but that's another tale altogether :)

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  9. History of Easter Candy by The+Living+Fractal · · Score: 1, Insightful

    1. Thousands of years ago Christ dies and is resurrected on this day.
    2. Thousands of years pass, the Capitalist United States is born.
    3. Someone decides that if there's a holiday, people will buy stuff 'related' (meaning the holiday is on the label) to it. They were correct.
    4. ...A rabbit lays an egg?
    5. Profit

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    1. Re:History of Easter Candy by Nintendork · · Score: 1

      I guess you didn't read the article. The capitalization started with the buns in Europe and most advancements were made there as well.

    2. Re:History of Easter Candy by The+Living+Fractal · · Score: 0

      Honestly, I never read TFA for articles like this. If I do manage to retain any of the information in them for long-term I feel I may have catastrophically displaced something in memory of much more value -- i.e. anything else in memory. Some /. articles are so bad I am forced to wonder at the people behind the /. wheel and if they aren't drunk on popularity.

      TLF

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    3. Re:History of Easter Candy by Phillup · · Score: 1

      Like most things christian, you left out the pagan roots.

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    4. Re:History of Easter Candy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet you feel qualified to make a flamebait type comment. Yeah, it'd be horrible if you wasted time actually reading articles.

    5. Re:History of Easter Candy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "pagan roots" are spurious, and laughably predictable. There are no references to hot cross buns prior to their Christian origins. However the dungeons-and-dragons crowd, or psuedo-pagan role players try to claim every Christian custom as usurping their ancient (circa 1950AD, England) traditions. Please provide a primary source for this claim, or stop repeating the malarky. P.S. wikipedia, and internet blogs are not primary sources historical research.

      The only "pagan roots" that exist for Great Britan are the writings of Roman Historians, and the early Church in Great Britan. The psuedo-pagans just made up their "religion" based on bad romance novels and hackneyed imagination.

    6. Re:History of Easter Candy by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      The "pagan roots" are spurious, and laughably predictable. There are no references to hot cross buns prior to their Christian origins. However the dungeons-and-dragons crowd, or psuedo-pagan role players try to claim every Christian custom as usurping their ancient (circa 1950AD, England) traditions. Please provide a primary source for this claim, or stop repeating the malarky. P.S. wikipedia, and internet blogs are not primary sources historical research.

      You're quite right - let's trust an Anonymous Coward posting on Slashdot instead.

  10. Leave your geek card at the door. by Don_dumb · · Score: 0
    It's springtime once again
    Not for half the planet, it isn't. You know there is a 'Southern' hemisphere, right?
    I hear people there wear hats on their feet and hamburgers eat people.
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    1. Re:Leave your geek card at the door. by lahvak · · Score: 1

      Not for half the planet, it isn't. You know there is a 'Southern' hemisphere, right?

      But there is nobody living there! Think about it, people there would be upside down, and they would fall off, anyway.

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  11. What Slashdot doesn't want you to know by the_macman · · Score: 2, Funny
  12. Fertility symbols. by khasim · · Score: 2, Informative

    Bunnies, baby chicks, eggs. All fertility symbols linked to the new life seen in Spring.

    Even the name of the "Easter".

    1. Re:Fertility symbols. by middlemen · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bunnies, baby chicks, eggs. All fertility symbols linked to the new life seen in Spring.

      Also when cooked, all are tasty... (slurp!)

    2. Re:Fertility symbols. by sunwukong · · Score: 2, Funny

      when cooked, all are tasty... (slurp!)

      Must be English -- boiled the whole lot together, right?

  13. Nothing represents Easter like ... by Horatio_Hellpop · · Score: 2, Insightful

    //These days, nothing symbolizes Easter and Spring quite like your child throwing up marshmallow peeps. //

    Not quite. Nothing symbolizes Easter quite like the empty tomb of Christ.

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    1. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by hazem · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And nothing symbolizes Christmas like the empty womb of Mary?

      I think I feel a song coming on!

    2. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by GrumblyStuff · · Score: 1

      Hey look! It's one childhood lie in another!

    3. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by Wizard+Drongo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, nothing quite symbolises Easter than the acknowledgement of Eostre, the welcoming of spring, and the fertility rites therein contained that nourish the hope of a forthcoming warm summer and good harvest. Hence the bunnies/lambs/eggs/wheat dollies symbology; after all, what could possibly symbolise fertility more than bunnies (as in "at it like bunny rabbits") or a good harvest like wheat dollies from the last harvest. And of course, since sheep give birth in spring (or 'lambing season') all of these references are absolutely spot-on. In fact, I can't see anything about Easter, symbolically, that's representative of Christianity. Wonder why that is? Oh, yeah, that's why. It's NOT CHRISTIAN!!!

      Just because the Church of Rome, 'back in the day' needed to convert the masses, and thought that they'd do it by slowly nicking all the pagans' festivals, and putting a thin veneer of christianity on them, doesn't make it so.

      Just once, I would like to revere my Gods, in my people's time honoured fashion without a bunch of dead-jew-worshipping nut-jobs coming in and spoiling it by claiming it as theirs. At least Christmas-nee-Yule has become so crass and commercialised that religion has very little to do with it all now, so we can hold our own, private religious rituals on Dec 21st then get down to the serious nature of Christmas/Hogmany; heavy drinking.

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    4. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by ThatGuy03 · · Score: 1
      The idea that Easter was a pagan holiday, with a Christian one installed upon is just untrue. I don't mean this in a mean way, but are you not aware that Easter is the Christian continuation of the Jewish Passover? Saying that it is anything else seems rather uninformed.

      Secondly Christmas is most likely celebrated on the anniversary of the wisemen showing up in Bethlehem. Check here for more information for what I am talking about. Incredible presentation by at former professor at Texas A&M.

    5. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by ichthus · · Score: 1

      Sounds like somebody need an Easter afternoon nap.

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    6. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by feyhunde · · Score: 1

      Wow, someone seems bitter.

      Yes, many secular celebrations of Easter now have pagan roots.

      But the holiday is the highest holy day for christians. It is the day when our lord was risen from the dead. The day is not tied to the start of spring, and is the one holiday that's date is quite assured of. Or is Passover just another pagan holiday transformed too?

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    7. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by caffeination · · Score: 1
      Even with the shared symbolism, the christian Easter is seperate from the secular one, which in turn is seperate from the pagan one. The only claiming getting done in that group is as follows:
      • The pagans claim the christian easter
      • The christians claim the secular easter

      I know that you won't see it this way, since you probably consider the differences between paganism and christianity as significant, whereas areligious people such as myself tend to just see "religious people" arguing over insignificant details in the style of the KDE vs GNOME and vi vs emacs flamewars.

    8. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by porcupine8 · · Score: 1
      Just once, I would like to revere my Gods, in my people's time honoured fashion without a bunch of dead-jew-worshipping nut-jobs coming in and spoiling it by claiming it as theirs.

      You know, if Christians are really coming into your house (or place of worship) and interfering with your holiday rituals, you can probably call the police for trespassing.

      Oh wait, they're not? They don't actually give a shit what you celebrate as long as you let them celebrate their holiday? Oh. Then shut the hell up. Why do you care what Christians celebrate? I think they might have freedom of religion, kinda like you do.

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    9. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, but you're wrong. Easter is never mentioned in the Bible. The Passover was celebrated by Jesus on the night of his Death... NOT on the day of his ressurection.

      The so-called wise men, were actually astrologers. Nothing wise about them, in fact they reported to Herod, so the Herod would have a chance to kill the Child.

    10. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by HermanAB · · Score: 1

      The empty tomb of who?

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    11. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by Wizard+Drongo · · Score: 1

      Hey hey hey. Religion is one thing, and I've had a fair few arguments with regards the rights of religious tolerance versus certain faiths that think it's ok for us to be tolerant of them, but them to burn us. That's one thing. But, I will NOT just stand by and watch you say KDE is the same as Gnome. I mean, come on. KDE is so obviously superior in every way to that pos Gnome. Hell, the thing was only brought into existence to support GIMP. KDE Rocks. ...please read the above comment (and the parent I wrote above that) with the command-line argument SenseOfHumour.plugin=1 engaged.

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    12. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by Wizard+Drongo · · Score: 1

      Well. Much as I hate to burst yer wee bubble, there was that time we were holding an open ritual in a nature-reserve/park (permission applied for and duly granted) and we got a load of "christian" protestors show up, demanding we take our satanic(!!) and ungodly ways away to whatever heathenistic place we came from (Boy, weren't they shocked when we said "we're from here. It's the native religion of Scotland" and then invited them to take their uno-godly and monotheistic ways back to Nazareth). Then there was the time I was accosted in the street by one of the christian clergy for wearing a pentacle and shouted at for being "evil and satanistic" (for the record, as a pagan, I acknowledge a number of deities, but Satan and Jehovah aren't among them). Then there's the numerous official slurs against us (we're all either tree-hugging pothead hippes, or evil sex-offenders that lure in young women for naked orgies in the woods. Naked indeed. Have these people never been to a Scots moor in October? Mmmpphh!!!) and the attention of the mass-media every time a sheep dies and gets eaten by a fox. But all that aside, it's more the tone of the parent to my little comment above that gets my goat. They can believe in whatever they want for all I care; vampire-cultism, talking incendiary shrubary, and virgin-birthing. I don't mind. As you said, freedom of religion. But when they come along and steal our festivals, even down to the name, and we;re mostly ok with that, then try to harass the secularites about stealing 'their' festival, because, you know, Easter is all about the "empty tomb of Jesus", it kinda takes the biscuit, no? Freedom of Religion would be lovely. Truly. Alas, since the english hold sway in Scotland, we don't have that. Defender of the Faith and all that.... Happy Eostre anyways, whichever Gods you hail, and try not to eat too much chocolate.

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    13. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by Wizard+Drongo · · Score: 1

      Can we have the name back then?

      Oh, and all them easter eggies too. Please? I think that between us, the half million odd pagans in the UK could probably snarfle the lot. Although methinks I may not have room for the sacrificial goat afterwards......

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    14. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by feyhunde · · Score: 1

      Hey, before the 70s most folks I knew called it Pascha. That's the best name for it, and most accurate, but angloification happens.

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    15. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by hazem · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And here it is!

      (to the tune of the US Marine Corps song)

      From the emtpy womb of Mary, to the empty tomb of Christ
      We will celebrate the holidays, With cakes and cookies iced

      Books will tell tales of the savior, 'twill be hard to tell what's true
      We'll take all the pagan holidays, and tell the Christians, "they're for you"

    16. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by hazem · · Score: 1

      The Who are dead?! I thought they were just deaf...

    17. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by Wizard+Drongo · · Score: 1

      As I posted above, the christian part of easter is christian. But Easter is a pagan festival. Easter, from Eostre, a saxon Goddess of spring and fertility. Also ties in well to Beltane, the celtic festival that's pretty similar in purpose. The church nicked it because it was handy, at about the right time of year, and since the Saxon's didn't keep a very good calendar, could be made to fit the ressurection festival. Same deal with Yuletide and Xmas, since Saturnalia, Yule, Homanay and a fair few other winter festivals all occurred around the same time, and Christmas could be made to fit it. The easter bunny, again, pagan, since Eostre came to earth in the form of a hare. The eggs, a sign of renewed life, clearly a fertility symbol, ditto wheat dollies (which most americans haven't even heard of). Wrapping eggs in coloured cloth and leaving as libations, again a very saxon pagan thing to do. Pretty much the entirety of the festival is pagan. The christian bits are plainly added on at a later time, about the same time Rome was wanting to convert the 'heathens'. They're as recognisable as the Abba bits in Madonna's 'HungUp' or the Queen riff in VanillaIce's "Ice Ice Baby". It's not the only thing the church did it to either. If you've read any of the mabinogi from the Mabinogion (or even heard of it), you'll see songs and passages of text that break off from what they're talking about, suddenly shifting to a badly written poem about the virgin mary, or some stuff about the wonder of the church's work. Painfully obvious to anyone who can look objectively, yet most 'believers' are totally nieve about it all.

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    18. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by Archangel_Azazel · · Score: 1

      *applause*

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    19. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by lahvak · · Score: 1

      It's not empty, it's filled with peeps.

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    20. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by superyooser · · Score: 1
      The word "Easter" in the KJV is "translated" (*cough*) from the Greek pascha. All other Bible versions I've seen, except for William Tyndale's, translate what is obvious: that the word is Passover (from the Hebrew Pesach).

      However, to be specific, Christ's empty tomb does not symbolize Passover/"Easter." Christ was crucified at the onset of Passover (or what has come into the New Testament as "Easter"). Therefore, the crucifix should be the symbol of "Easter."

      The empty tomb of Christ came three days later. It, therefore, symbolizes not Passover/"Easter,"* but the beginning of the harvest, the firstfruits of those who have died (1 Corinthians 15:20). Jesus was the first fruit of the resurrection. Subsequently, all who trust in Him will be resurrected; that is, will be part of the spiritual harvest.

      In agricultural terms, the spring harvest season begins with the ripening of the barley, so maybe barley fields should be the symbol of Jesus' resurrection.

      * The seven-day Feast of Unleavened Bread was still in progress, but Passover was over. Despite what modern Jewish calendars indicate, Passover is only one day, not seven.

    21. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And nothing symbolises Christianity better than a po-faced bastard on slashdot.

    22. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by Secrity · · Score: 1

      Easter is not a continuation of Passover, Christians believe that it is a related event that occurred after passover. The date that Christians celebrate Easter is celebrated is not defined in the New Testament. Pagan Easter was customarily the first Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox. The Eastern Orthodox Orthodox Church celebrates Easter on the Sunday following the 14th of Nisan (also known as the fourteenth day after the paschal moon), which follows the first evening of Passover. The Roman Christian Churches celebrate Easter on the Sunday following the first full moon occurring on or after the date of the vernal equinox -- the same day as the Pagan Easter. I do not believe that it is a coincidence that the Roman Church set their Easter to occur on the same day as the Pagan Easter.

    23. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by elrous0 · · Score: 1
      Nothing symbolizes Easter quite like the empty tomb of Christ.

      Believe me, if you had smelled it, you wouldn't have found it so damned enchanting.

      -Eric

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    24. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by HolyCrapSCOsux · · Score: 1

      Wasn't that the name of the fat guy in the Emperor's New Groove?

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    25. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by porcupine8 · · Score: 1
      That is horrible. And it's equally horrible that law enforcement would do nothing to stop the harrassment.

      I hope you realize that the majority of Christians aren't like that. They probably think you'd be better off if you were Christian, but they wouldn't harrass you about it or try to force it on you. But I think at this point it's rather silly to argue about who stole whom's customs or rituals or celebrations - most of the "stealing" went on centuries to millennia ago, it seems like it's time to bury the hatchet.

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    26. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by pnuema · · Score: 1
      I hope you realize that the majority of Christians aren't like that. They probably think you'd be better off if you were Christian, but they wouldn't harrass you about it or try to force it on you. But I think at this point it's rather silly to argue about who stole whom's customs or rituals or celebrations - most of the "stealing" went on centuries to millennia ago, it seems like it's time to bury the hatchet.

      Two points:

      1. You have obviously never been a non-Christian in the mid-western United States. I can assure you that the majority around here will most certainly harass you, even after you ask them to stop.

      2. It is easy for Christians to talk about burying the hatchet, mainly because they have been burying it into pagans for the last several hundred years.

    27. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by porcupine8 · · Score: 1
      1. You have obviously never been a non-Christian in the mid-western United States. I can assure you that the majority around here will most certainly harass you, even after you ask them to stop.

      Actually, I have been most of my life, although I did live on the east coast for a few years. I did have a friend drag me to youth group a couple times in high school, but beyond that I've never had anyone try to convert me. Even my devoutly Lutheran husband. I'm sorry you've had worse experiences.

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    28. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because you play at dungeons and dragons does not make you a wizard little boy. Granted, the psuedo-pagan movement was started in GB - in the 1950's by a civil servant who wanted get women dancing naked with him. His first attempt was a new-and-improved satanism, but suprisingly few women wanted to duff their duds while a nut job danced around with a sword invoking satan's name. Paganism 2.0 - call it wicca, make up some pap about godesses, and pretend that it is "the old religion". Voila! Morose chicks with "issues" and comune-grade hygene will dance around your bon fire while droning on about their sacred femininity. That is role playing, not religion.

    29. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by CrankyOldBastard · · Score: 1

      Please also keep in mind that the majority of Christians arn't the "American Rabid Money Worshipping" kind. Most Christians outside the USA worship Christ, and not the $$ or televangilist.

    30. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Just because your imaginary friend is older doesn't make your celebration any more legitimate or rational. Have your fun, and let everyone else do the same.

    31. Re:Nothing represents Easter like ... by pzampino · · Score: 1

      While the crucifiction of Jesus Christ is very much related to Passover, Easter is not a celebration of Passover or Christ's death, and the crucifix should absolutely not be the symbol of Easter. Easter, or whatever you want to call it, is a celebration of Jesus' resurrection, hence the symbols of new life. In fact, many Bible-believing Christians refer to it as "resurrection day", for the sake of clarity.

      I don't believe any translation that includes the word "Easter" is really referring to this celebration, but rather, as you've pointed out, the correct translation is "Passover", and the context supports that.

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  14. Peeps; re: Re:Huh? by 70Bang · · Score: 5, Interesting



    Because this is so high, I'll add it here:

    Peeps are extruded marshmallow cover with all sorts of color material. They're quite pliable.

    The Chicago Tribune had an article interviewing the president/CEO and said it's been determined Peeps have a three-year shelf life. (the pres offered the interviewer one and he passed it up.

    I would liken this to be like the breakfast cereals which claim to be "part of this nutritional breakfast" and it's okay until they add the extra stuff which would already covers the necessary quanties.


    Here's the Official Peeps web site.

    Whatever they have in them, they have the bare minimum to qualify as food, just like ventored honey buns. It's like White Castle. (You can find a White Castle franchise when the bars have closed - just look for a list of cars of thirty or more. If somoeone sold White Castle & booze in the same location....

    1. Re:Peeps; re: Re:Huh? by Murphy+Murph · · Score: 2, Funny
      If somoeone sold White Castle & booze in the same location....


      the store would have to install 10x as many toilets.
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    2. Re:Peeps; re: Re:Huh? by Triv · · Score: 2, Funny

      If someone sold White Castle & booze in the same location....

      Apparently you've never been to Brooklyn.

      --Triv

  15. Days are longer.. by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Summer sucks.

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  16. Rule the world ?!? by dargaud · · Score: 0, Troll

    Never heard of any of those candies. From their names they sound rather disgusting. You should rephrase that to "rule the US of A" where the sense of taste is a long gone memory. In the meanwhile the rest of the world enjoys chocolate eggs.

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    1. Re:Rule the world ?!? by Limburgher · · Score: 1

      Chocolate eggs? Eew. Why put chocolate in your eggs? That's disgusting! ;)

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    2. Re:Rule the world ?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yay USA bashing!

    3. Re:Rule the world ?!? by Aranth+Brainfire · · Score: 1

      Yeah, seriously, "chocolate eggs" sound SO disgusting.

      The rest of the world must have lost its sense of taste, if they eat something that sounds that nasty.

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  17. What doooo you mean!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I shower and put on my best Sunday suit when shopping at Walmart. It's a pain to shop there because I have to dress up to go!

  18. Re:Firefox runs like ass after update by Dis*abstraction · · Score: 0, Troll

    Hasn't it always run like shit? Install Safari and some decent plugins instead; you'll be much happier.

  19. Another piece of nonsense by LanceUppercut · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The American approach to celebrating Easter is noting more and noting less that a relatively recent invention with purely commercial roots. As it is with most of the holidays in the US, it is trageted at the most vulnerable group - children. It doesn't have any genuine historical or religious background. The idea of that nonsense "ruling the world" is hilarious at best.

    1. Re:Another piece of nonsense by HermanAB · · Score: 1

      Christianity is aimed squarely at children. Didn't that Jesus guy say "...render your children onto me...", not to mention the previous pope going "I just loooooove the children" and the priests who just loooove the children a bit too much as well and get sued for it.

      At least as far as I know, neither the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus raped any children...

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    2. Re:Another piece of nonsense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The American approach to celebrating Easter is noting more and noting less that a relatively recent invention with purely commercial roots. As it is with most of the holidays in the US, it is trageted at the most vulnerable group - children. It doesn't have any genuine historical or religious background. The idea of that nonsense "ruling the world" is hilarious at best.
      As an American I am inclined to agree with you, however, I simply can't take seriously idiots such as yourself who can't recognize irony when you see it; on Slashdot of all places when someone talks about a marshmellow candy "ruling the world" you have to have a stick up your ass not to recognize it as irony.

      Now go home and think about what a humorless tightass you are. You aren't doing anything to help solve the problems of American commercialization of the culture, I'm afraid. The rabid anti-Americanism of your type has nothing to do with making the world a better place, and everything to do with making yourself feel superior based on entirely unearned "insights" into the bleeding obvious.
    3. Re:Another piece of nonsense by pembo13 · · Score: 1

      Strange comment.

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    4. Re:Another piece of nonsense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When will someone be allowed to post a response to this imbicile?

    5. Re:Another piece of nonsense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In response to HermannAB's disfunctional little post,

      Apparently, you have an odd fixation on child molestation. As public school teachers rank as the most common offenders (after family members), I assume you were not quick enough dodgine your gym teachers balls at school. Hopefully you will get over it, or learn to stop dropping such obvious hints about your traumatic childhood experiences.

  20. Products of their environment by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've never heard of Marshmallow Peeps. Are they our secret masters?

    I've seen them on TV.

    See, this is like when people in the states say "World series", they mean "United states of America series", or when they elect the "leader of the free world", they really mean "the leader of the United states of America".
    When a magazine decides to publish a collection of the prettiest people in hollywood, they call them the most beautifull people in the world.
    Or when they say "America" and they exclude two thirds of North America, as well as all of South America to only mean "United states of America".

    It's the result of a very limited world view.

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    1. Re:Products of their environment by Firehed · · Score: 1
      See, this is like when people in the states say "World series", they mean "United states of America series", or when they elect the "leader of the free world", they really mean "the leader of the United states of America".
      Don't blame us for our overzealous media that considers itself patriotic. Anyone with half a brain knows it's a bunch of bull. At least "leader of the free world", seeing that "World Series" is tne official title, even though it only pertains to America.
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    2. Re:Products of their environment by Volkman · · Score: 1

      Off topic, but why is the "World Series" called that if its only the USA that plays in it??? I've asked alot of people but noone seems to know.

    3. Re:Products of their environment by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      Anyone with half a brain knows it's a bunch of bull. At least "leader of the free world", seeing that "World Series" is tne official title, even though it only pertains to America.

      Well, world series of baseball... it's not like there's so much baseball played elsewhere I suppose. But the free world thing, that's just awefull.

      Don't blame us for our overzealous media

      Yeah, damn media.

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    4. Re:Products of their environment by c_forq · · Score: 1

      Actually Canada has some teams playing in the MLB, Toronto Blue Jays is the only team I can think of off the top of my head, but I think there are at least two others.

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    5. Re:Products of their environment by dwater · · Score: 1

      This reminds me of when I came to China and one of the students mentioned Chairman Mao - I responded, "Who's that?". My general knowledge isn't so great (bad memory) - (IIRC) I'd actually never heard of him - and that fact amazed said student. People here pretty much idolise him, and think that the rest of the world must have at least heard of him; when, in reality, many (most?) people in the west probably have never heard of him and are similarly ignorant of China. China just isn't that important; certainly not as important as people here think. (Of course, that is changing pretty quickly).

      Same as these 'peeps' things and people in the US.

      The only thing the word 'peeps' makes me think of is some catch phrase a UK TV comedian had...but I forget it exactly.

      I like marshmallow though, and I'd never heard of smores before I went to the US, but I enjoyed them nevertheless :D

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    6. Re:Products of their environment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's not like there's so much baseball played elsewhere
      I guess you haven't heard of the World Baseball Classic.

    7. Re:Products of their environment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope... the only other Canadian team to ever play in the MLB was the Montreal Expos, but they folded (last year or the year before). So, only one non-US team now.

    8. Re:Products of their environment by Schemat1c · · Score: 1

      See, this is like when people in the states say "World series", they mean "United states of America series", or when they elect the "leader of the free world", they really mean "the leader of the United states of America".

      Yeah, and why is it the "Miss Universe" pageant when only girls from Earth participate. And why are they called "World Wars" when Switzerland doesn't play and why.... ZZzzzzz....

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    9. Re:Products of their environment by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      And why are they called "World Wars" when Switzerland doesn't play

      Because the world needs a clean, tidy place to have a time out and to keep their money safe while it blows itself up.

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    10. Re:Products of their environment by Generic+Guy · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I've never heard of Marshmallow Peeps. Are they our secret masters?
      It's the result of a very limited world view.

      What's even more amazing than a U.S.-limited view is when such a large portion of The F'ing Article itself is dedicated to explaining what- and where- Peeps came from, but you'd rather polemicize.

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    11. Re:Products of their environment by Flower · · Score: 1
      AFAIK, the World Series has been labeled such since way before baseball went beyond the US. The first official World Series was in 1903. So pretty much there is no one alive to blame for their "limited world view" when they so badly mislabeled the event. If the issue is so offensive I suggest you immediately begin a letter writing campaign to the MLB.

      Cold War ended nearly two decades ago. I don't see the term "leader of the free world" in usage much anymore. It's nice to know that you are old enough to remember that though.

      So now America is to blame for Hollywood's marketing campaign? Does it count that a lot of people in Hollywood come from a variety of countries?

      So, if someone shortens the United States of America to America they should be burned at the stake for being insensitive? Strangely enough, when I talk about a region in the North and South American continents I address it by the country's name. So I talk about Canada or Brazil or Costa Rica or Mexico - not North or South America. And if I do talk about the continents themselves I usually distinguish via North or South. If I talk about both I use the proper plural the Americas. I really don't see how I've created a worldful of confusion with this nomenclature.

      Btw, are Americans allowed to talk about other countries or does that deprive the rest of the world the pleasure of being able to mock us?

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    12. Re:Products of their environment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You went to China and you didn't know who Chairman Mao was? That's pathetic.

      People who laugh at "ignorant Americans" really should look in the mirror now and then.

    13. Re:Products of their environment by AP31R0N · · Score: 1

      [offtopic]
      North American is a continent. America is a country. The Americas refers to North and South America. "United States of" is a descriptor. Much like "People's Republic of" or "Bundesrepublik". I'm not a United Statesian, I'm American.

      If someone says "America/American" they are refering to the USA. When someone says the "United States" they mean America, but "United States" is NOT the name of the country any more than Republique is the name of France. Canadians and Mexicans are NOT American, they are North American.
      [/offtopic]

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    14. Re:Products of their environment by gryphscomputer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not all about you Flower.
      I think this is why the general consensus is that Americans are self-centred and ignorant of the rest of the world. Please don't think that I assume ALL US based Americans are ignorant. I don't. I do believe though that the majority of Americans have been led to believe that their country is the only educated country on the planet and that the rest of us are third world non-entities.
      I doubt people find the term 'World Series' offensive when used in the context of Baseball.
      Now, back to the subject. I figured (even though I am a stupid non-American) that Marshmallow Peeps had something to do with Marshmallows, those sugary soft things that you can roast over coals and burn your tongue with. I also figured they were just another vaslue added modified sweet that saved (and also made) the manufacturers a bucketload of money.
      In Oz, we have 'Potato Gems'. These are half mashed potato pieces about the size of an average marble that are fried and sold for more than your average serve of chips (fries). Less potato, more money.

      On the subject of Hollywood...isn't Hollywood the de facto propaganda vehicle for the US government? Sorry, that's rude. It *was* the de facto propaganda machine for the US govt. Lets see, Top Gun, Saving Private Ryan, anything with John Wayne in a uniform, anything with Elvis in a uniform...should I continue?

      I don't generally give U.S. folk a hard time because I know it's not their fault they have a corrupt election process or a puppet for a leader, but when people like you get offended by facts, I have to say something.

      The 'World Series' is still called that after 102 years. Many people still refer to your President as 'Leader of the Free World'. Many U.S. citizens refer to themselves as 'Americans' but really mean U.S-ians.

      Fact is, most of your compatriats think I'm from Austria and that I have to side step Kangaroo shit on the foot-path (sidewalk). A lot your fellow USians probably think I wear a crocodile skin vest and throw shrimps on the barbie every second day. However, I know that not all of you folk walk down the street with a side-arm (except maybe in Texas) and scream USA all day.

      I also know that a lot of USians are aware that there is more to the planet than the 52 states and the Star Spangled Banner.

      Cheerrs all, I've had my fun,
      Gryph

    15. Re:Products of their environment by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Actually you'll find that anyone remotely educated in the West knows who Mao is.

    16. Re:Products of their environment by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Your theory is a common urban legend.

      America DOES refer to the whole of the Americas, its usage to refer to the US is a recent development brought about by verbal laziness.

      Note that the South American football championship is called the Copa America, not the Copa South America. Also football teams such as 'Club America' in Mexico, and 'America de Cali' in Columbia, they have no link to the US.

      It's only inside the US and other English speaking countries that America only refers to a single country.

      Where do you think the term 'North America' came from, if not being the northern part of 'America'?

    17. Re:Products of their environment by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 1

      Tell me, where is "America"? We have the Americas, which are North America and South America. Neither of these is, simply, "America". The inhabitants are North Americans and South Americans. If someone says they are South American, people don't think they mean they are from Texas. Well, an idiot might, but if you told an idiot you were from the UK but not from England they would be equally confused.

      On the other hand, we do have this place called "The United States of America". That's the name; that's all there is. What should someone from The United States of America be called, if not Americans? United States of Americans? Citizens of the USA? Uniteds? The "America" part of the name is really the only unique part of the country's name. Yes, there are other parts of the world which have "America" in the name. There are also other countries that have states, and other countries which are united. I wish the name could have been something awesome and unique like Kickassland, but unfortunately we're all stuck with what it is.

      To shorten The United States of America to "America" is only as far-fetched as shortening, say, the German Democratic Republic to "Germany". This is very commonly done. Most people don't know what every other country's "real" name is.

      Also, I don't see anyone getting up in arms about Australians calling themselves such, even though New Zealanders are also from the continent of Australia.

      While I would even agree that USA-natives have a limited view of the world in many cases, and I don't like a lot of things going on in the country, I honestly wonder what in the world you expected Americans of the United and Stately Variety to call themselves. Of all the examples of self-centered and ignorant acts by Portion-of-North-Americans, how is this a good or fair example?

      (Beyond that, the USA participated in the dang World Baseball Classic this year, which Japan won and where the USA was knocked out by Cuba, so I think it is fair to say that the country is aware that the World Series is simply an archaic, but traditional, name with lots of history and sentimentality attached to it.)

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    18. Re:Products of their environment by elrous0 · · Score: 1
      its usage to refer to the US is a recent development brought about by verbal laziness.

      No, it's because "United Stater" just sounds damn silly.

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    19. Re:Products of their environment by AP31R0N · · Score: 1

      Cliff Notes Version of this Post: America (in english) != (necessarily) America (in any other language) Other Languages != The Subject of my previous post

      "It's only inside the US and other English speaking countries that America only refers to a single country."

      We're discussing English... in English. Not Spanish, or any other language. If you were, then we are comparing apples and oranges and can GBtW.

      If i said "He's American", no English speaker would ask "Which America?". A Brazillian might, but that has *nothing* to do with what i was saying. i'm not a United Statesian. Saying "i'm American" is 100% accurate in English (the only language i was discussing in my post), it causes 0 confusion and has 0 ambiguity between my and *my audience of English speakers*. It's not lazy because no one ever says "I'm United States of American". Germans don't call themselves "Bundesrepublik Duetsch".

      When people say "the United States" we know they refer to America because there is no other United States, 0 ambiguity. If Uruguay wanted to call itself the United States of Uruguay (as translated into English), then there would be ambiguity. But if we still call America, America, and still call Uruguay, Uruguay, there is no ambiguity.

      When they chant "death to America" they aren't refering to the two continents. No one, even speakers of other languages think they are referring to Canada or Peru.

      Think of it like this: Name of Country, Descriptor
      America, United States of
      China, People's Rebuplic of
      Korea, Republic of
      France, Republic of

      The name of the country where i'm sitting is "America". YES! There are continents named America as well, that's given. But in English (this language you and i are using and the subject of my post) we have ways of denoting which one we mean.

      If we are having a conversation in English and you want to refer to both of the continents in the western hemisphere, you would say "THE AmericaS". A Brazillian might say "America"... but he's Brazillian and he's speaking Portuguese, and is right in doing so in *his* language. i'm NOT talking about Portuguese, i'm talking about English. The Portuguese and Brazillians can use the letters a-m-e-r-i-c-a to refer to anything they please; a continent, a set of continents, a country or a bagel shop around the corner. It's beyond the scope of *my* post.

      Embarrassed in English means ashamed or humiliated. A very similar word in Spanish, embarazada, means pregnant. Sets of letters and sounds can mean different things in different languages. But those two words are NOT the same. Just as an American (from USA, speaking English) saying the word "America" means something different than an Argentine saying "America" (in Spanish).

      Pedantically,
      Apeiron

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    20. Re:Products of their environment by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Think of it like this: Name of Country, Descriptor
      America, United States of
      China, People's Rebuplic of
      Korea, Republic of
      France, Republic of


      Except America isn't the name of the country, it's the name of the continent. America referred to the continent long before the United States even existed. Where do you think they got the word 'America' from?

      I suppose you think Central America refers to Texas/Oklahoma?

    21. Re:Products of their environment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, I don't see anyone getting up in arms about Australians calling themselves such, even though New Zealanders are also from the continent of Australia.

      New Zealand is not from the continent of Australia. It is an island chain (IIRC formed by volcanic activity), and is hence not a part of any continent.

    22. Re:Products of their environment by dwater · · Score: 1

      Actually, that's not the case at all.

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    23. Re:Products of their environment by dwater · · Score: 1

      In my defence, the student referred to him as "Mao Zedong" ie without the 'Chairman', which I might actually have recognised. However, I would only have reconised the name because I had just moved to China, not because of any 'education' I had received. I'm not sure where (or if) I would have heard of 'Chairman Mao' before coming here (certainly not from any education I received) but I expect it might have 'rung a bell' at least. It is certainly something I would have chosen to forget since it is completely irrelevant to my life before coming here, and not that much relevant after coming here, except to answer the question "who's that?" whenever I see his photo.

      I am quite sure that the majority of people in the west have no idea who he is, even if they have heard of him; educated or not.

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    24. Re:Products of their environment by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      such a large portion of The F'ing Article itself is dedicated to explaining what- and where- Peeps came from

      We clearly were not RTFA.

      Right, now for the pop quiz: Why are you telling me? I'm not the one who asked. AND Why are you complaining about us not reading an article about candy? You think that's a better use of our time than babbling about the blurb about that useless holiday-filler of an article? Really?
      I got some mileage out of this discussion you know, I told someone they'd believed a lie about the world series. I think that fighting the forces of disinformation was a good use of my time. Yay truth!

      And for fuck's sake, "F'ing"? What are you, 12? Grow the fuck up.

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    25. Re:Products of their environment by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 1

      Is that really true that it isn't considered part of Australia? That is interesting, I really didn't know that. In that case, replace "New Zealand" with "Papua New Guinea" and then the example works.

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    26. Re:Products of their environment by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      I don't see the term "leader of the free world" in usage much anymore. It's nice to know that you are old enough to remember that though.

      You've already forgotten the 2004 elections? WTF?

      So now America is to blame for Hollywood's marketing campaign?

      Nah, I blame Togo.

      Btw, are Americans allowed to talk about other countries

      Nope. Not allowed to talk about America either. So, watch out.

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    27. Re:Products of their environment by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      Tell me, where is "America"? We have the Americas, which are North America and South America. Neither of these is, simply, "America".

      They're like the wonder twins: Alone, they have no power, but together, they form... AMERICA!

      Seriously, this sematics shit is getting old.

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    28. Re:Products of their environment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong again.
      PNG is also not part of the continent of Australia.
      There's no other country on this continent but Australia, although there are parts of Australia not on this continent.

    29. Re:Products of their environment by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 1

      Are you talking about me or are you agreeing with me? Because my whole point was to make fun of the "semantics shit" that the original post pulled when they said that referring to themsleves as "Americans" was a symptom of the USA's self-centered attitude.

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    30. Re:Products of their environment by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 1

      Did you really think I would reply with a new country and not double-check this time?

      As a matter of fact, I'm right on this one.

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    31. Re:Products of their environment by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      Are you talking about me or are you agreeing with me?

      Neither, I was dismissing your entire page of text with a flippant reply.

      Out of the TEN replies to that, yours is the one I read the least, latecommer.
      But it does not seem to be the dummest, though... by far.

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    32. Re:Products of their environment by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 1

      Okay, then I guess I wasted my time replying to you. My apologies.

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    33. Re:Products of their environment by gryphscomputer · · Score: 1

      "Also, I don't see anyone getting up in arms about Australians calling themselves such, even though New Zealanders are also from the continent of Australia"

      You're from the United States of America, aren't you?

      All you people who have ever looked at an atlas...could you please explain to the person I have quoted above, that when a large body of water (sometimes known as the Pacific Ocean) separates one large island (big enough to be called a continent) from two small islands by around 2000km if I recall correctly...and both cultures (and I'm talking traditional native cultures, not the Anglo-Saxon invaders) are as far separated as one could imagine, it strongly suggests that New Zealanders may *not* be from the same continent?

      Or, put simply, a Kiwi would get pretty pissed off if you suggested his country was part of Australia.

      Cheers

  21. Re:uh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's Easter, you unwashed heathen.

    Now, eat a peep for Jeebus, or you're going straight to hell!

  22. Re:Firefox runs like ass after update by justthinkit · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Give Opera a try. I did about a month ago now and have not looked back. Once in a while some site won't render with anything but IE but by and large it is fast (much faster than IE), filters ads and I am totally pleased with it.

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  23. World wide web by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 0, Troll

    The world has a population of roughly 6,000,000,000 people. Of those, approximately 300,000,000 live in the USA. This means, according to the summary, around 5,700,000,000 people currently on this planet do not come from "the world".

    Hey, what do you know, we've been looking for aliens in space, and it turns out I've been one the whole time. Can I have my seti@home cycles back, please?

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    1. Re:World wide web by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention that according to this story, one whole hemisphere does not exist.

      It is not spring here. It is autumn, and the days are getting shorter, not longer.

      But we still celebrate the ancient Northern Hemisphere rites of spring in the form of the worship of Eastre, the Teutonic Goddess of Fertility, or as she is known now, the Easter Bunny.

    2. Re:World wide web by abh · · Score: 1
    3. Re:World wide web by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      There are countries in the world outside the US that use English, you know; England, for example. Its also the language of international commerce (thanks largely to the British Empire, BTW), and spoken by inhabitants of many countries.

      So what was the point of your link? To say that (a) ingrained, unthinking nationalistic xenobobia is a good thing because it makes you feel big; (b) you find geographic ignorance in an internationally accessable forum laudable because the US education system isn't enough of a laughing stock; or (c) in the six years since Taco answered the question they still haven't reached a decision about foreign mirrors?

      If your aim was to paint US citizens as ignorant, insular and lazy, mission accomplished. However, from my exchanges with people from the US on this very site, I know that isn't the case...generally speaking...

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    4. Re:World wide web by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1
      If your aim was to paint US citizens as ignorant, insular and lazy, mission accomplished.

      The mission is to annoy the French. If you are, in fact, French - then mission accomplished. If not... close enough.

      Seriously though, I would think the vast majority of Slashdot readers do, in fact, know that "the world" expands beyond the borders of the US. Even if they are US citizens. Having said that, the idea of Peeps conquering the world is pure hyperbole. I'm not so sure Peeps have conquered anything... much less "the world". Using said hyperbole as a springboard to rant about World population and insult people strikes me as less an educational or intellectual behavior and more that associated with a spoiled child demanding attention.
    5. Re:World wide web by MROD · · Score: 1

      Well, I think the original poster was from the Confederated Nations of North America, oh, sorry, United States of America. They're all strange over there.. they can't help it you see, it's the sugar rich diet. ;-)

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    6. Re:World wide web by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      My original post was to point out that the hyperbole was meaningless to many as the bulk of the world doesn't know what a marshmallow peep is; its an in-joke, which, like most in-jokes, falls flat in front of the wrong audience (hence the subject line, World Wide web). I would have thought the seti@home bit would have made it obvious that it was intended as humour; apparently not. Its clear that some jokes, like what a peep is, need to be explained in certain circles.

      As for it being a "rant", the figures I used are roughly accurate, and stated as matter-of-factly as possible in order to emphasise the obviously absurd conclusion; which part of this qualifies as a rant? Another fact: people incapable of discerning jokes often lack the necessary skills to accurately judge the psychology of others, and also tend to over-estimate their ability to do so while failing to recognise their own failings. However, psychoanalysing people on the basis of a few sentences is not only insulting but usually wildly inaccurate, which is why I try to respond directly to what people write (or imply), rather than playing pretend psychiatrist for whatever reason.

      That aside, it seems you missed my conclusion: "However, from my exchanges with people from the US on this very site, I know that isn't the case...". So yes, my reply to abh was an insult, but very specifically targetted at someone who appeared to me to be saying nothing more insightful than "if you don't like it, clear off". Re-read my response beyond what you quoted, and you'll see I'm actually saying I find most Americans decent, intelligent people despite being represented in international forums by obnoxious insular xenophobes. Of course, you can continue to call me a spoiled child for clearly stating this view if you're really that keen to be insulted, but it wouldn't say much for your reading and comprehension skills.

      The fact that you see fit to take offence at comments of little to no direct significance to you suggests that childishness is not my exclusive domain (I'm not even going to critique the tiresome anti-French comment as a sign of maturity, or lack thereof). And as for attention seeking, your equally insulting reply shows you wanted my attention just as badly, so hello pot, my name is kettle (I believe the psychoanalytic term for this is "projecting").

      And no, I'm not French, as I originally pointed out I am in fact an alien. The summary said so.

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    7. Re:World wide web by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1
      My original post was to point out that the hyperbole was meaningless to many as the bulk of the world doesn't know what a marshmallow peep is; its an in-joke, which, like most in-jokes, falls flat in front of the wrong audience (hence the subject line, World Wide web). I would have thought the seti@home bit would have made it obvious that it was intended as humour; apparently not. Its clear that some jokes, like what a peep is, need to be explained in certain circles.

      You'll note that I did not reply to your parent post. And while the general gyst can be applied to your earlier post... the individual points you replied to are actually reference to a much less-joking post.
      As for it being a "rant", the figures I used are roughly accurate, and stated as matter-of-factly as possible in order to emphasise the obviously absurd conclusion; which part of this qualifies as a rant?

      Let me quote you:

      So what was the point of your link? To say that (a) ingrained, unthinking nationalistic xenobobia is a good thing because it makes you feel big; (b) you find geographic ignorance in an internationally accessable forum laudable because the US education system isn't enough of a laughing stock; or (c) in the six years since Taco answered the question they still haven't reached a decision about foreign mirrors?

      If your aim was to paint US citizens as ignorant, insular and lazy, mission accomplished. However, from my exchanges with people from the US on this very site, I know that isn't the case...generally speaking...

      There's a lot less calm stating of facts going on there. To your credit, you do note that the less admirable examples of our culture does not necessarily represent the majority of it. Its a shame that part seems to be more an afterthought.
      The fact that you see fit to take offence at comments of little to no direct significance to you suggests that childishness is not my exclusive domain (I'm not even going to critique the tiresome anti-French comment as a sign of maturity, or lack thereof). And as for attention seeking, your equally insulting reply shows you wanted my attention just as badly, so hello pot, my name is kettle (I believe the psychoanalytic term for this is "projecting").

      I must admit that my response was more to the general theme than your particular post. Your post, replies to your post, and many other posts all critique US-centric aspects of the article. That was a little unfair.

      Unfortunately, in our attempts to be clever and slip in snide commentary... I'm afraid the message got lost. It was lost in the reply to your parent thread. And it was lost in your belief that insults were linked to the spoiled demand for attention.

      Allow me to be blunt to be sure this gets through: get over yourselves. Every US-centric article is not a personal affront to you and your culture be it from Europe, Asia, Africa, the Americas... or whatever little corner of the world you call your own. This was goofy article on Easter candies. Save your just outrage for something with actual meaning. Otherwise, it just gets tiresome.

      As for my poking at the French - they are known for being as pompous as the Ugly American is known for ignorance. Its a stereotype. But it seemed to fit in the general theme being expressed. I'm sure I don't have to stress that this was a joke since you're quite familiar with the concept of discerning jokes.
    8. Re:World wide web by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      (c) in the six years since Taco answered the question they still haven't reached a decision about foreign mirrors?

      Please, look how long it took Slashdot to become standard xhtml+CSS. Look how many bugs in Slashcode have been around for ages. Look at all the shoddy editing, duplicate stories... sure the Slashdot editors are lazy as hell, but that doesn't say anything about the US in general.

  24. Peeps == people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    in the UK "peeps" is slang for people
    "me and my peeps will come over"

    marshmallow people i thought ? mmmmgahgahdribble..

    1. Re:Peeps == people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Peeps is slang for that among the niggers and whiggers in the US too.

    2. Re:Peeps == people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it slang among all UK people... or is it just like it is here in the US... slang for those incapable of wrapping their heads around more than one syllable?

  25. Easter without candy by layer3switch · · Score: 1

    Christmas without presents, Halloween without costumes and candy...

    Something tells me, this candy business is made up to keep the kids off adult's back while they prey. Only if we can integrate candy and the Martin Luther King Jr. day.. somehow....

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    1. Re:Easter without candy by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      Something tells me, this candy business is made up to keep the kids off adult's back while they prey.

      So, you're saying that these holidays and the candy associated with them have their roots when man was a hunter/gatherer?

      Well, at least the Easter Egg Hunt makes more sense now.

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    2. Re:Easter without candy by TCQuad · · Score: 5, Funny

      Only if we can integrate candy and the Martin Luther King Jr. day.. somehow....

      I have a Dreamsicle?

    3. Re:Easter without candy by glitch23 · · Score: 0

      Something tells me, this candy business is made up to keep the kids off adult's back while they prey. Only if we can integrate candy and the Martin Luther King Jr. day.. somehow....

      Out of curiousity, what do adults in your part of the world hunt? Do you live in the Amazon or the Australian bush by chance?

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    4. Re:Easter without candy by Ipingforpong · · Score: 1

      Chocolate German Shepherds and chocolate sniper rifles. Instead of baskets you could have buses that the top opens and all the passengers are made of chocolate, white chocolate at the front and milk chocolate at the back.

    5. Re:Easter without candy by raoul666 · · Score: 1

      You fool! You've given them the idea, now it's only a matter of time!

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    6. Re:Easter without candy by bigwang · · Score: 2, Informative

      To give credit where credit is due and because the show is genius, this is from the colbert report:

      http://youtube.com/watch?v=gDzdi6-Rd5k&search=havi ng

    7. Re:Easter without candy by rrohbeck · · Score: 1

      While they prey? On what?

      Ooh, Halloween... :)

  26. Candy Hacking by Potor · · Score: 4, Funny

    I made my own marshmellows today - bloody fantastic. Covered them in chocolate too. You should try hacking your own candy.

  27. Marshmallow peeps nutritional value secret by mybecq · · Score: 5, Funny

    I once looked at the nutritional value on a packet of Marshmallow Peeps. I discovered that they actually contained more grams in Sugars than the Serving Size weighed.

    I vowed from that time forward never to touch a product which violates all known laws of physics...

    1. Re:Marshmallow peeps nutritional value secret by RobertLTux · · Score: 2, Informative

      um i think you got that a bit backwards its serving size (5 peeps) 42g and sugars
      36g (but it is a close thing

      btw for our unelightened viewers peeps are shaped like chicks (whom go peep when real)
      and are made of this stuff (marshmellow) that is 99% puffed sugar. Diabetic folks could almost go into hyperglicemic shock just looking at them.

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    2. Re:Marshmallow peeps nutritional value secret by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      You forgot to include the detail that they are also coated in sugar. So when you look at them they are basically sugar coated sugar.

    3. Re:Marshmallow peeps nutritional value secret by The_Rook · · Score: 1

      still not as bad as circus peanuts.

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    4. Re:Marshmallow peeps nutritional value secret by ironring2006 · · Score: 1
      Oblig. Simpsons Reference:
      "This eclair is over one million calories. Twenty-five pounds of butter per square inch. Covered with chocolate so dark that light cannot escape its surface."
      To which someone figured out the following:
      the French Chef states that his eclair contains One million calories. Rudimentary knowledge of nutrition sciences tells us that the most calorific substance is fat, at 9 calories per gram. Since there are approximately 28 grams in an ounce and 16 ounces in a pound, 1,000,000 divided by 9 divided by 28 divided by 16 tells us that the eclair, were it 100% fat, would weigh approximately 248 pounds. Assuming that it contains SOME non calorific matter and SOME less calorie dense carbohydrates, namely the sugar and flour that an eclair MUST contain, we can assume that the eclair weighs AT LEAST 300 pounds, which it clearly didn't, and, since eclairs are not particularly dense (in terms of sheer mass divided by volume), it would be at LEAST as large as a full grown human male. Is this supposed to be some sort of MAGICAL pastry?*
      *Taken from here
    5. Re:Marshmallow peeps nutritional value secret by glsunder · · Score: 1

      I discovered that they actually contained more grams in Sugars than the Serving Size weighed.

      The trick is to fill them with helium and list all measuremets in ounces rather than grams. This is one of the best ways to make a 6 oz steak more filling.

    6. Re:Marshmallow peeps nutritional value secret by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps, despite listing their contents by mass instead of weight, that information was determined by weighing the peep. If that was the case, they could use helium or some other lighter-than-air gas in their marshmellow-making process which would decrease the aparent weight of the peep.

    7. Re:Marshmallow peeps nutritional value secret by BraksDad · · Score: 1

      I don't think they travel faster than the speed of light...

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  28. Easter == Ishtar by murderlegendre · · Score: 2, Informative

    Probably the most popular etymology of 'Easter' concerns the Babylonian fertility goddess Ishtar, whose resurrection coincides with the coming of spring.

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  29. Food network by Scott+Swezey · · Score: 1

    Is it just me, or did that paragraph sound like it came, word for word, out of something the dude from "The Secret Life of ______"... Not that I have seen or even know if they did one on easter candy, but it sounded exactly like what he would say.

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  30. WTF? The days are getting shorter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    WTF is this guy talking about? It may be a lovely sunny day outside but winter is on it's way. The days are getting shorter and it's sure getting colder. There are sure are some werdios posting on this website. While I'm at it, why do birds on TV fly south for winter? Every kid knows it bloody cold down there. Why do you think the Scarfies burn their couches! http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A420850

  31. Bethlehem PA representin! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bethlehem PA representin!

  32. World Series by Lupulack · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've used this argument before about the World Series pointing to an attitude of the USA , but unfortunately it's not really true.

    The World Series is so named because it was originally sponsored by a New York newspaper called ... The World! It doesn't change anyone's philosophy but now I can't use it to make fun of my United Statesian friends , more's the pity.

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    1. Re:World Series by Scrameustache · · Score: 3, Informative
      The World Series is so named because it was originally sponsored by a New York newspaper called ... The World!

      Sigh...
      "One baseball myth that just won't die is that the "World Series" was named for the New York World newspaper, which supposedly sponsored the earliest contests. It didn't, and it wasn't.

      In fact, the postseason series between the AL and NL champs was originally known as the "Championship of the World" or "World's Championship Series." That was shortened through usage to "World's Series" and finally to "World Series.""
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    2. Re:World Series by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that's "United Statesmen of America" to you, you insensitive clod

  33. Easter is not in spring... by deckert_za · · Score: 2, Informative
    Easter is not in spring and Christmas is not in Winter.
    Easter is in April and Christmas is in December.

    Spring may in April, but that's only on the Northern Hemisphere. Down on the other side of the world, Autumn starts in April and Christmas is during high summer! Down here we lay on the beach and tan on Christmas day.

    --deckert

    1. Re:Easter is not in spring... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Well actually easter's not even in april, it's in march (around the 21st) and it's not easter its Ostara

      And christmas is on the winter solstice and its called Yule

    2. Re:Easter is not in spring... by pavium · · Score: 1

      Is this tendency to assume seasons are the same everywhere just ignorance, or do people living in other parts of the world not matter?

      I once took Discover magazine to task about an article on Supernova 1987A and asked if they (as a reputable international publication with a global readership) pandered to parochial American readers. The answer, of course, was YES.

      So I don't think we can blame ignorance -- we just don't matter.

    3. Re:Easter is not in spring... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this tendency to assume seasons are the same everywhere just ignorance, or do people living in other parts of the world not matter?

      So you're taking admittedly local publications (Discover, Slashdot) to task for being somewhat local? When I read an Austrialian publication, I assume that it's written for an Australian audience, and I'm not particularly offended by that. Do you expect the New York Times to cover events in Queensland as well? It's not that you're not important, it's just that you're not reading something that's been written in your country. That shouldn't be terribly hard to understand.

      In other words, start your own damn website and be as southern-hemispherish as you wish. I may even come and read it, and complain about it not covering my hemisphere enough :)

    4. Re:Easter is not in spring... by elrous0 · · Score: 1
      do people living in other parts of the world not matter?

      We only value you for your rock bands, hot actresses, and those cute koalas.

      -Eric

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    5. Re:Easter is not in spring... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually it's the Pasch (derived from Pesach). Only the English called it Easter, and the English are the last group you would want to take lessons on Christianity from.

  34. Chocolate eggs. by MROD · · Score: 1

    No, no!

    The chocolate eggs are laid by special, genetically modified Easter bunnies.

    You just don't want to see the ones which produce the Cadbury's Creame Eggs though... one phrase... "Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch." Nasty creatures!

    (nb. Bunnies were called cunnies/connies before the Victorians changed their name 'cos they sounded too much like the slang term for something else.)

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    1. Re:Chocolate eggs. by dwater · · Score: 1

      Note that (IMO) Cadbury Creame Eggs, like most chocolate made in the USA, taste significantly different than made in the UK (in Cadbury, I'd guess) - the US version is much sweeter; very sickly.

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    2. Re:Chocolate eggs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Genetically modified Easter bunnies? So they are banned in Europe then?

    3. Re:Chocolate eggs. by dargaud · · Score: 1
      Bunnies were called cunnies/connies before the Victorians changed their name 'cos they sounded too much like the slang term for something else.
      It's not just that they sound the same, it's the same origin, coming from the latin and still found in italian 'coniglio' for instance. Also the international 'cunilingus' and other terms...
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  35. GP left out a word - 'Peeps' by Animaether · · Score: 1

    Sure, the entire world (presumably) knows what marshmellows are. Even if they're of slightly different consistency and are named differently (like 'spekkies' or 'spekjes' in The Netherlands).

    However, and this is the big one: what about marshmellow peeps?
    I know of them because my gf sent some to me for easter two years ago. They're tiny yellow (sometimes pink, I'm sure they come in blue too) sugar-coated marshmellow-ish things that vaguely resemble a 'peep'; or chick (the hatchling chicken/rooster kind). In all honesty, they look more like ducks than chicks, but whatever.

    So I know what they are... but do they 'rule the world'? Outside of an expatriate store here in The Hague, I haven't seen them -anywhere- for sale in The Netherlands. I would imagine that the same goes for any other country where the product simply hasn't been introduced. I would actually not be surprised if this -is- indeed a north-american curiosity at worst, and something sold in e.g. the UK+Ireland, Australia and perhaps Germany at best.

    So GP is quite right in calling attention to the 'rule the world' bit. Unfortunately they seem to have left out the word 'peeps' in his final sentence, causing the mayhem of "you don't know what marshmellows are!?" replies that missed the point they were trying to make.

    Then again, maybe he really did mean that he doesn't know what marshmellows are, in which case I'll join the ranks and say "wtf?" :)

    1. Re:GP left out a word - 'Peeps' by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      I would actually not be surprised if this -is- indeed a north-american curiosity at worst, and something sold in e.g. the UK+Ireland, Australia and perhaps Germany at best.

      Germany isn't exactly known for our international candy stores. Besides, everybody knows that Easter is all about Blätterkrokant. By the way, I was surprised to find no English translation as clearly Blätterkrokant is the One True Easter Food that rules, nay, owns the world. Marshmellow *s are just an US American fad.

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    2. Re:GP left out a word - 'Peeps' by Animaether · · Score: 1

      true, but if a U.S. candy company would try a continental europe market first, it'd likely be the German one.

      btw, 'Blätterkrokant' - unless images.google.com isn't exactly giving correct results, is a year-round thing here in The Netherlands. Commonly referred to as plain 'bonbons', even though I'm not sure that's what they are :)

      Typical Dutch easter candy is just chocolate eggs wrapped in colorful foils, lots of nuts, special easter bread (thicker dough, and often baked in the shape of a hare (no idea why not a bunny.) and bread loafs with bits of 'fruit', powder sugar on top, and a line of almond paste you're supposed to scoop out and spread over the surface of a slice. Easter isn't too much about candy here other than those chocolate eggs :) ( which do come in a gazillion shapes, sizes and flavors )

    3. Re:GP left out a word - 'Peeps' by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, probably. But our americomania has lost most of it's momentum since the Nineties. The USA aren't that hot around here anymore. We still consume American pop culture like there was nothing else, but we aren't desperately trying to become like them anymore.

      Well, we have Blätterkrokant (which is very much Easter-related over here), filled wafer eggs, filled chocolade eggs (usually with something nut-related)... Nut-related stuff in general (mostly almond and hazelnut). And, for the children, egg-shaped candy consisting of sugar and food dye. Oh, of course the Krokant also comes in egg shape. Easter is not exactly a time of many shapes.
      Except, of course, for hollow chocolade bunnies. Those are a must-have for children (just like the hollow chocolade Santas at christmas). Two companies (Lindt and Milka) start spamming TV stations with their chocolade bunny ads during March and the things are brands by themselves (with excellent brand recognition). Maybe not exactly traditional stuff, but traditional enough that I grew up having a Milka bunny a reliable (and easily noticable) part of my Easter "harvest".

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    4. Re:GP left out a word - 'Peeps' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought I'd mention that I'm from Canada, eh. I haven't heard of, or seen marshmellow peeps ever. They are truely just a USA thing. Mini chocolate eggs probably would have been more universal.

      I read this summary as "Cheap US based candy rules the USA". I have to interpret things like that a lot, becuase our food product are actually quite different. It's like they're another country or something.

      Personnally, I'll stick to my Smarties (tm) and Kraft Dinner (tm).

    5. Re:GP left out a word - 'Peeps' by Wizardry+Dragon · · Score: 1

      Umm, check the local WalMart sometime soon friend, assuming that they have any easter candy around. That said, every region has it's foods that it obsesses over. Quebec has it's poutine, Ontario has it's maple syrup, BC has it's pot (well okay that's not a food, but I think you can safely say its what's on the minds of 99% of the youth there that aren't military brats), and the US has it's marshmallow peeps.

  36. Easter Candy is Why Christianity is Popular by Roblimo · · Score: 3, Funny
    Early this morning I posted a piece titled Why Christianity is More Popular than Judaism on my personal site.

    It begins...

    I had a revelation one evening at a Walgreens Drug Store in Bradenton, which I suppose is as good a place to have a revelation as any. It was about Jesus, Passover, and Easter. In a flash, I suddenly realized why Christianity is popular and Judaism is not.

    It's the candy!
    1. Re:Easter Candy is Why Christianity is Popular by porcupine8 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Don't worry, they're trying to commercialize Passover, too.

      My local grocery stores are carrying Plague Finger Puppets this year. One for every plague - there's a little dead baby for the Firstborn plage, a locust, a frog, one covered in boils... Somehow, I don't think they'll sell as well as Peeps. I wonder if Peeps are Passover Kosher. Is corn syrup allowed for Passover?

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    2. Re:Easter Candy is Why Christianity is Popular by techno-vampire · · Score: 4, Informative

      Only for some Sephardic Jews. In general, corn and its products are not Kosher for Passover, which is why you can buy 2 liter bottles of Coke made with real sugar at Passover.

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    3. Re:Easter Candy is Why Christianity is Popular by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

      Here in Mexico we follow our own traditions regarding Easter (like praying / fasting / representations of the Passion), there are no things like the Easter Bunny or egg chocolates here.

    4. Re:Easter Candy is Why Christianity is Popular by porcupine8 · · Score: 1

      You know, I tried this magical Coke with real sugar in Canada, and it tasted exactly the same to me. I don't see why people get all excited about it.

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    5. Re:Easter Candy is Why Christianity is Popular by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      Some people don't like the taste of corn sweetener. I have a friend who stopped drinking Coke when they changed to it, except for Passover because the tate's so different for him. Not everybody has that problem; I, for one, never could tell them apart.

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    6. Re:Easter Candy is Why Christianity is Popular by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      which explains why so many are heading North.

  37. Next in the series by caffeination · · Score: 1

    Next in the series: Why Judaism still isn't ready for the desktop user!

    1. Re:Next in the series by techno-vampire · · Score: 2, Funny

      What do you mean Judiasm isn't ready for the desktop user? I hear they're going to start using it next year in Jerusalam.

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    2. Re:Next in the series by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      What do you mean Judiasm isn't ready for the desktop user? I hear they're going to start using it next year in Jerusalam
      So Judaism is like nuclear fusion: it is the power source of the future, and always will be!
  38. Europe may well be a country soon by tepples · · Score: 1

    You must be from that other country, Europe.

    Watch out. The member states of the EU are considering a European Constitution. Some have compared this Constitutional process to the United States' transition from the Articles of Confederation to its Constitution.

    1. Re:Europe may well be a country soon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hush, child. You should get a TV or something, you're filling up the slashdot.

  39. I'll take "Beatles lyrics", Alex... by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

    This reminds me of when I came to China and one of the students mentioned Chairman Mao - I responded, "Who's that?". My general knowledge isn't so great

    Hmmm, no, I don't think a world leader is on the same level as junk food.

    Then again, he's dead, so he's getting less significant by the day, even if his legacy lives on.

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    1. Re:I'll take "Beatles lyrics", Alex... by dwater · · Score: 1

      Ha :) Perhaps not. Same principle though.

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  40. Duhmerican... by Ombwah · · Score: 0, Troll

    Hey dumbass, way to show your mastery of irony. You slam an entire country, larger than most others in population, racial diversity, and square mileage, for rash generalization. Do I need to point your rash generalization out? WTG Idiot.

    Further Marshmallows are not an american creation.

    Look it up before you open your filthy, ignorant, cake hole.

    S-F-B.

    http://home.howstuffworks.com/framed.htm?parent=qu estion128.htm&url=http://www.faqs.org/faqs/food/ca ndy/peeps/section-12.html

    http://home.howstuffworks.com/question128.htm

  41. Peeps rule over the Illuminati? by woolio · · Score: 1

    Have you heard of the Illuminati? Apparently, they are a powerful group with connections to high levels of governments...

    Well, even they answer to the almighty Marshmellow Peeps.

  42. I'm more concerned with... by jd · · Score: 1

    ...the fact that they decided it would offend non-Christians. This makes as much sense as banning an Odinist Longship-burning ceremony on the grounds that it might offend non-Baptists. Hmmm. There again, that might explain some things.

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  43. The Anglos are weird. by jd · · Score: 1

    The BBC has a recording of an Anglo-Saxon speech that would have gone down well in many churches this morning... if they'd understood a word of it.

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  44. I'm Sorry but That Was Lame by Cruxus · · Score: 1

    I understand why the site's called Failed Success. It succeeds at failing to be funny, quite well at that. Is it just me, or do Slashdotters seem to have a pretty unfunny sense of humor?

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    1. Re:I'm Sorry but That Was Lame by electr01nik · · Score: 1
      could it be a response to:

      "If your try to fail, and succeed... what have you accomplished?"

  45. I actually called Cadbury by spineboy · · Score: 1

    Apparently they only make Cadbury mini-eggs once a year, at Easter. I plan to stock up on several pounds

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  46. Yeah.... by threedognit3 · · Score: 0

    In celerabation of the original post... Yes...it is good...to breathe, to laugh, to love and be happy.

  47. Peep Jousting: Revisited. by thewrathoffluffy · · Score: 3, Funny

    After reading about the concept of peep jousting on this post, I felt compelled to try it for myself. The peeps get to their fullest size (the size of a baseball) around the 30 second mark on high in the microwave (After that they just turn brown and start to fizzle). After 2 trial runs, I found it hard to adhere the toothpicks to the side by just licking, so I poked it in their bellies instead. While it didn't work too well (they never actually "stabbed" each other), it was still a great time watching them grow to the size of oranges.

    That might be a good college prank, to shove 30 peeps in a microwave set to high for 2 minutes and run away.

    If I had a blog, this would totally be in it.

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  48. Why does Easter chocolate taste so nasty? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Anyone alse notice this? Get one of those pure chocolate bunnies and do a taste comparison with a standard Hershey bar. The Easter candy has this ultra sweet, sickly cloying taste to it that makes you puke. Everyone else I mentioned this to agrees.

    1. Re:Why does Easter chocolate taste so nasty? by ajrs · · Score: 1

      that is because most easter chocolate is the substandard stuff that nobody would buy for themselves. It doesn't have to compete against regular candy bars, so it doesn't try.

  49. Peeps, smoking and alcohol by HunterZ · · Score: 2, Informative

    Saw this one a loooong time ago:

    http://www.peepresearch.org/smoking.html

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  50. it's autumn you insensitive clod by daveb · · Score: 1
    "The days are longer, the sun is brighter, the colors are rich, and the candies are pastel. It's springtime once again,

    down under it's getting cooler, leaves are committing suicide and we're heading towards the dreary days of winter - YOU INSENSITIVE CLOD,p> :-)

  51. Being a reverse diabetic myself by way2trivial · · Score: 1
    I went looking for something else too add to my all sugar diet.
    ventored honey buns

    one result on google.

    help me out a little?

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    1. Re:Being a reverse diabetic myself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Honey buns from vending machines. Truthfully, no different from any other manufactured honey bun: sweet pastry slopped with a sugar glaze. I'm not sure if honey is even an ingredient in most of them. They're good, but you can certainly feel your bloodsugar count go through the roof after eating one.

  52. What's with the American bashing? by denjin · · Score: 1

    I saw the 'rule the world' part, but I just thought he was using hyperbole. I know people like to use any reason they can to call all Americans idiots and egocentric...but come on people.

    1. Re:What's with the American bashing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem here is that when you read TFA you realise that it wasn't hyperbole - they really think it!

      Look at the 'History' section. Every single confection they mention was not invented in America, but in Europe, or Asia. So the writer simply ignores the history until an American starts to make the product. Result - no information on what actually happened. Have a look!

      I suppose this is what passes for history in the US - I really have heard Americans arguing that Ford invented the automobile "because there weren't really any cars around before then.."

      Besides, everyone knows that Cadbury's Creme Eggs are the World Champion Easter confection.

  53. Re:Europe's Easter tradition - hating Jews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, that U-rope sounds like my kinda town. Down here, the good ol' boys get a proper Baptist heaven, once they string up a niggah or two.

    I dunno what a pradise is, but you can count me in if there's a lynching party!

  54. What's wrong with the parent is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that, whatever peeps are, they are NOT the most evocative, world-wide known, Easter sweet.

    There is no way that any American confection can get near the world-wide following of Cadbury's Creme Eggs.

    Though I suppose that the OP thinks that these are American as well!

  55. From the department of redundency department. by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

    North American is a continent.

    Great start...
    But enough making fun of typos, let's make fun of the fundamental point:

    When someone says the "United States" they mean America

    Is this really what you chose as your retort? Have you given this a single second of thought?

    If your proposition were correct, genius, "United States of America" would mean "America of America".

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  56. Re:From the department of pretension and PCness by AP31R0N · · Score: 1

    Deepest apologies for the typos... i was at work and in a hurry.

    Anywho. As i said (at least) TWICE, "United States of" is a descriptor. Bundesrepublic Deutschland does not mean Deutschland Deutschland. Sometimes people call America by just the descriptor, that does not make it the name of the country. If you read the paragraph about United States of Uruguay, i made that point clearly. US is short for USA. USA is short for United States of America. There *could* be more than one "United States of", just as there is in fact TWO "People's Republics of" Korea and China. There is no ambiguity in saying "The United States", but there would be in "People's Republic".

    Last Time:
    For the English Language ONLY
    THE AmericaS = North and South America
    America = A country, the FULL name of which is United States of America
    Democratic People's Republic of Korea = North Korea (the descriptor tells us which)
    Republic of Korea = South Korea
    THE KoreaS = North and South Korea, collectively

    There is a similar thing with the Congos. There are two, the "Democratic People's Republic of" and the "Republic of". Collectively, the are THE CongoS. If Canada, wanted to have the descriptor "United States of", then calling America the United States would cause ambiguity. Since there is no ambiguity in saying "the United States", people accept it, though it is incomplete.

    The Germans live in Germany
    The French live in France
    The Americans live in... AMERICA!

    The whole idea behind "America" referring to "THE AmericaS" is based on the assumption that a-m-e-r-i-c-a means the same thing in English and in the languages of Latin America. Acknowledging that said combination of letters means this in english and that in other languages/cultures eliminates the problem. And that's all i'm talking about, that was the scope of my first post. Feel free to call yourself United Statesian, and to pretend to be confused when someone says "He is American".

    i won't read your reply, but thanks for the fun.

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  57. +1, Comic wit. by The+Cydonian · · Score: 1

    You sir, have made my day. :-)

  58. Blahblahblah by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

    Deepest apologies for the typos... i was at work and in a hurry. [...] i won't read your reply, but thanks for the fun.

    lol, that's all I read, and I had to scroll down to get the second part!

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  59. Re:Products of their environment-whoismaozedong? by gryphscomputer · · Score: 1

    I guess the importance of a world figure must have more relevance, the closer you live to said world figure's home country. Knowing who a world leader is or was may also have a lot to do with ones age.

    It's probably rude to ask, but how old are you dwater? The question is not meant to be a precursor to a patronising comment, just wondering if your not knowing about Mao is age related (our 18 yr old asked "who is Ronald Reagan" last week).
    I am 42 and I know who Mao Zedong...'Chairman Mao' was. I was taught at school about most figures of note in history. Mao Zedong had a HUGE impact on the world, so I would have thought that his name would be right up there (in a historical sense) with Lenin, Marx, Washington, Lincoln, Breshnev, Reagan, Gorbachoff, Macarthur, Churchill (most likely some typos back there) and others.

    Can I offer some sage words of advice? Never choose to forget something because you don't consider it relevant at that point in your life. Eventually the information may come in handy, even if might only win you a six pack at a trivia quiz. Worse, you may start forgetting stuff you wanted to remember one day...

    Cheers
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  60. Wow... by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 1

    New Guinea is a part of Australia WITHOUT being connected, Japan is a part of Asia, Asia and Europe are separate continents DESPITE the fact that they are very much connected (and Russia is in both continents), and the same is true of North and South America, both are connected. So, tell me, why would the fact that New Zealand is a fair distance away from Australia, but still closer to it than any other continent (and also grouped into Oceania), imply that as an American I have never bothered to look at a map? Yes, only an ignorant and self-centered American could make such a preposterous mistake.

    So in conclusion, I'm so incredibly sorry that I didn't realize that New Zealand didn't happen to be arbitrarily designated as a part of the Australian continent, seeing that the criteria are so clearly defined. Yes, I can understand why you would instantly look down your nose at me based on where I was born.

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    1. Re:Wow... by gryphscomputer · · Score: 1

      Why? Because you, in what most would consider an extremely ignorant statement, stated that New Zealanders were part of Australia. Which is incorrect.
      Perhaps you meant to say 'Australasia'?

      New Guinea is an independant country to Australia. They gained independence from Australia around 30 years ago.

      Now, I will apologise for appearing to lump all Americans in the ignorant boat. However, if you do not wish to be considered ignorant, check your facts prior to responding with more misconceptions.

      Australia is Australia
      New Zealand is New Zealand
      Papua (and) New Guinea or Papua New Guinea is Papua New Guinea

      These countries are all (but not exclusively) described as being in a geographical region called Australasia. If you expanded the geographical region to take in many of the Western Pacific island nations, the region is oft described as Oceania as you correctly stated.

      For the record, I do not 'instantly look down my nose...' at people based on their country of origin. Unfortunately, you have done what many of your countryfolk do. You open your mouth before thinking too hard. If you check one of my previous posts, you will note that I don't tar all Americans (US'ians as I put it) with the same brush. Most of your compatriats are intelligent and educated enough to see beyond their shoreline. Unfortunately the ignorant ones are more vocal, causing embarrassment for the rest. Check out 'Bushisms' for a classic example.

    2. Re:Wow... by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 1

      More people would consider it extremely ignorant to claim that the USA has 52 states.

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    3. Re:Wow... by gryphscomputer · · Score: 1

      Yep, you may well be right on that. My bad and my apologies.
      Cheers

  61. Re:Products of ...what is Australia? by gryphscomputer · · Score: 1

    So Wikipedia is your only resource? You should probably check a little further than the open source encyclopedia, or perhaps check the full article for consistency... The Wikipedia entry variously states that the land masses are 'Australia' and 'Australasia' while referring to the same 'land masses'. Referenced from the Macquarie Dictionary (4th Ed.): Australasia: (noun) Australia, New Zealand, New Guinea and neighbouring islands of the South Pacific Ocean. Australia: (noun) the continent south-east of Asia,lying between the Indian and Pacific Oceans, the smallest continent in the world...2. a federal parliamentary state consisting of the continent of Australia and the island of Tasmania; comprised a number of smaller colonies before federation in 1901. Referenced from the Readers Digest Universal Dictionary (1998): Australasia: an imprecise term referring to lands of the Pacific Ocean. The name is used in a broad sense to include the Malay Archipelago, Micronesia, Polynesia and Melanesia in addition to New Zealand, the island of New Guinea and Australia. It is used more commonly to refer simply to Australia, New Zealand and their dependencies (or former dependencies) such as Papua New Guinea. Australia: Official name - Commonwealth of Australia. Island commonwealth lying between the Indian and Pacific Oceans... If you still want to believe Wikipedia, then I'd suggest reading this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/'Australia' Or try: http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/1/686/1/ PA005910.htm This may give you some ammunition as it states that 'when used in a geographical sense, includes the external territories'. However, neither New Zealand, nor New Guinea are external territories of Australia. Christmas Island, Lord Howe Island and a few other smaller islands (and a large section of Antarctica) are external territories. I will happily accept the Wikipedia 'continent' entry once the entry is referenced. Without references, you or I could say that all of Eastern Russia is part of America, or that New Zealand is part of Australia even. You may also note that the entry specifies that it is a geological association, which is different to the geographical association. Perhaps this site may help: http://www.australia.gov.au/about-australia-1conti nent I have contacted Geosciences Australia who may respond here. Any responses to me personally from Geosciences will be posted here. If I am wrong, I will happily apologise. Cheers

  62. Re:Products of their environment-whoismaozedong? by dwater · · Score: 1

    I'm 40.

    I don't recall ever being taught anything at all about Chairman Mao, let alone Mao Zhedong. Actually, I don't recall ever being taught anything about China at all. I stopped studying history and geography when I was 14. In any case, my memory just isn't good enough to hold that much information, whether I choose to or not (can you 'choose' to forget something, I wonder). ...and I still maintain that I am the norm.; ie, most people (in the west) wouldn't know who he was (even if you used the word 'Chairman'). ...and, no, it hasn't been much of a problem.

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  63. Re:Products of ...what is Australia? by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 1

    Honestly, if I you are having to do research for sources, and depending on where you look there are different answers, and depending on if you are looking politically, geographically, or geologically, it can be defined differently, and even you, an Australian, aren't 100% totally certain, don't you think it is going a teensy weensy bit far to say that I am being ignorant, or that I am speaking without thinking?

    I know there are a lot of Americans who embarrass me a great deal, and I'm not perfect myself, but I think it is very fair to say that I have gone out of my way to learn about many cultures in the world. I am a linguistics Ph.D. student who used to live in Germany, and I speak 5 languages. No, that doesn't mean I'm anything special or that I know everything, but it does maybe mean I am extremely interested in the world and I am interested always learning every day. If you actually wanted to educate me instead of being an asshole, I would have been very interested in the discussion, and you would have had one less person who was confused about your confusing geographical layout. In fact, I probably would have been one of the more interested people you could have happened upon.

    Oh well.

    The end.

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  64. Re:Products of ...what is Australia? by gryphscomputer · · Score: 1

    Damn. I thought my post would have scored for at least being educational.
    I provided references to back up the knowledge that I was passing to you and others Dephex Twin. As a student, you would know the importance of providing references to back up your statements.

    I followed your link to the Wiki entry and read the information provided therein. To confirm what was claimed in that Wiki entry (remember, there were no references on the 'Australia, (continent) page), I did some basic five minute research to either confirm or refute that page.
    The dictionaries I quoted are in my personal library. The web pages are easily Googled.
    Due to the fact that there are different definitions, depending on the source and context, I provided references for you to check.
    If you or anyone feels that I am being an asshole, then so be it. I'll keep providing the references, rather than expect people to take my statements as gospel (no, that's not a veiled jibe at you Dephex Twin).

    Perhaps you should have checked to see if NZ was part of the Australian continent *before* posting? Then maybe I would not have considered you ignorant. The same as I should have checked how many states are in the US, rather than rattling off a figure I thought was right (my ignorance).

    When I call you ignorant, I mean 'uninformed', not ill-mannered and uninformed. There is a big difference in how the term is interpreted sometimes.

    Cheers from another (past) student

  65. Re:Products of ...what is Australia? by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 1
    Don't you see? It's too little too late. You were an asshole from the get-go, so I'm not interested in engaging in any sort of useful discussion with you. Your words are all out there in cyberspace already. Perhaps in Oz the word "ignorant" isn't incredibly insulting? I mean, I wouldn't want to just assume the word has the same meaning there as it has here.

    I'll bet you don't like being mistakenly called an Austrian, or to have people think that you ride a kangaroo to work at the boomerang factory every day. Well, I don't like being called an ignorant American if I ever make a mistake (particularly one that I imagine would be easily overlooked if I were from any other country).

    Perhaps you should have checked to see if NZ was part of the Australian continent *before* posting? Then maybe I would not have considered you ignorant.
    Think of this analogy. Imagine if Australians were known to be clumsy people who didn't look where they were going. Now everybody trips and stumbles now and again, even those who take great care to watch where they are going. But imagine if people from other countries just relished at the chance of catching you making the slightest tripup so they could say "Ah, you must be Australian! Why don't you learn to walk?" Now, why should you buy better shoes just to please those jerks?
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  66. Re:Products of ...what is Australia? by gryphscomputer · · Score: 1

    :o)

  67. Re:From the department of pretension and PCness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So much confusion!! Why don't we start a letter writing campaign so we can change the name back to what everyone thought it was to begin with? INDIA! We can go back to calling the native Americans (native united statesmen?) Indians, (I guess they would still have to be "native Indians") and if there was ever confusion as to which India we were speaking about you could say east or west, new or old, or even "the India in the Americas" So... How do we get this on the ballot?

  68. Versatile Peeps by BraksDad · · Score: 1

    There are a couple web sites dedicated to running chemical and physical experiments on Peeps. They are quite entertaining.

    http://www.peepresearch.org/
    http://www.keypad.org/bunnies/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/stoneofdreams/sets/72 057594096761868/
    http://www.tenholder.net/peeps/

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