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Linspire Announces Freespire Distribution

LinuxScribe writes "Is the world ready for another community Linux distro a là Fedora and openSUSE? We're about to find out, as Linspire used the Desktop Linux Summit to announce a community-driven version of Linspire, to be called Freespire. But here's the twist, Freespire will come in two flavors: a completely open source version and a version that includes all of the fully-licensed proprietary apps, drivers, and codecs in Linspire."

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  1. *~shudder~* by showardkid · · Score: 4, Funny

    You mixed that up, man. There's an accent on 'a' and not on 'la'. It's "à la". Yes, I'm a Foreign Language nazi.

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  2. To beat an analogy to death by uberjoe · · Score: 4, Funny

    They should call them Beerspire and Speechspire.

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  3. I wonder what's up by Illbay · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Fedora was established as the bleeding-edge benchmark for development of Red Hat Enterprise Linux.

    Linspire, in contrast, is rather staid and unadventurous. One questions whether a "bleeding edge" is even required for that distro.

    So what is the purpose of "Freespire"?

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    1. Re:I wonder what's up by soupdevil · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Of course, the purpose is to get us talking about them again, since much of the buzz lately has been about Ubuntu and Fedora. And with simple scripts available to add proprietary codecs to Ubuntu, there are few to no reasons to pay for Linspire, and pay again for access to their library of OSS apps.

    2. Re:I wonder what's up by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Funny

      "embracing the community" is a good way to get smelly.

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  4. I don't get the point by brunes69 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Yet another community-maintained Debian-based distro? Why in the world would I want to choose this over (U|K)buntu? Debian based, but with a bastardized broken KDE... sounds super!

    And before anyone says anything about CNR (click and run), I will point you to klik - free open and wonderful, and not tied to any distro.

    Enough said.

  5. Mod Company -1: Troll by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's not forget what we're dealing with here. This is a company with a known history of pulling whatever attention getting stunt it can, including starting with a name of "Lindows" that got shot down by MS. All along, their goal has been simple: try to find a buck out of distributing open source software, including making their "Click and Run" store of mostly freely available apps.

    This is about as newsworthy as a paid-software vendor announcing a free trial edition that replaces all the "good stuff" with reminders to buy the full version.

    1. Re:Mod Company -1: Troll by linvir · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I don't get it. Why do people always piss on Linspire for selling Free Software, when so many others had already been doing it for so long? Is it because of a perceived lack of contribution back into Open Source on the part of Linspire? From a slightly biased Wikipedia article:
      Linspire has contributed millions of dollars in direct funds and contributed code to several open source projects. For a company of Linspire's size, their contributions have been quite admirable. With very few exceptions, all code that is developed by Linspire is contributed back to the open source community. Linspire is also the lead maintainer for important projects such as Nvu, Lsongs, Lphoto, and an important contributor to other projects such as Mozilla Firefox, Gaim, Reiser FS, and many others.
    2. Re:Mod Company -1: Troll by chris_eineke · · Score: 5, Insightful
      try to find a buck out of distributing open source software
      Yeah, like Redhat, SuSE, Mandriva, etc.

      Tell me: When has selling Free / Open Source Software become a sin against humanity?
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  6. Hmm... Nice by Psykechan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Looks like Linspire is planning on giving away the razor and trying to sell the blades for $20 a year.

    On the other hand, at least the "creating a user account so you don't run everyhing as root" step isn't optional in Freespire. This "new" distribution is something that might be a good first step for newbie Linux users that want certain features (DVD/MP3 playback) immediately after install.

  7. Nice... by advs89 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think I'll be the first to say that I like this idea.





    Well, I don't actually... I just thought it would be cool to be the first to say that.

    -Advs89

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  8. Re:now more than 500 distros by abscissa · · Score: 5, Funny

    The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

  9. Plan 9 is better by bizzynut · · Score: 4, Funny

    Plan 9 offers a completely usable, modern desktop. So there is no need for Linspire.

    1. Re:Plan 9 is better by linguae · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Plan 9 offers a completely usable, modern desktop.

      Plan 9 is a research operating system. I like Plan 9's architecture, file system, and many other ideas. Plan 9's goal is to further extend the notion of Unix's "everything is a file" idea. Everything, even the windowing system (rio), is a file. Plan 9 also vastly simplifies systems programming (compared to Unix). Plan 9 is a wonderful research operating system that I would love to tinker with and explore.

      However, it isn't a desktop replacement for Windows/OS X users or even for Linux or BSD users. There is no office suites (or even a word processor unless you love text editors and TeX or troff), no browser on the scale of Firefox or Konqueror, no music/video players, nothing that 99% of the world uses with a computer. Besides, I'm pretty sure that users are more comfortable using this desktop, these desktops, or especially this desktop before they use this desktop. For even the most ardent *nix hackers or computer scientists, Plan 9 would be something they played with on the side (kind of like Minix or an operating system that they're working on), and Linux/BSD is their main OS.

      I like Plan 9, but it isn't a desktop OS; it's a research OS. However, Plan 9 is a very innovative operating system; I wish that the major OS sellers (I'm talking to you, Apple and Microsoft) would be a bit more cutting-edge in the architecture of their OSes rather than just appearances (even though Apple has done very well since the bought NeXT; they have a hybrid kernel, for one). Plan 9, L4, the MIT exokernel project, and other projects look very interesting, and I would like to see them in use.

  10. Evolution by the+darn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lindows -> Linspire -> Freespire
    So, if they hadn't been forced to change, would this new distro be called Freedows? The mascot could have been the Freedow Bandido!

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  11. Here's the twist... but it's not a new twist by Ankh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Freespire will come in two flavors: a completely open source version and a version that includes all of the fully-licensed proprietary apps, drivers, and codecs in Linspire

    Well, maybe, but they're hardly the first to do that: Mandriva (Mandrake) has been doing it for a long time, with the commercial version including extra drivers as well as applications. Probably others have too.

    What makes a community effort stand or fall is how well the outside people are integrated, and how much voice they have.

    One reason I the distribution I do is that it attracts both seasoned programmers and newcomers, and there's a good chance I can show my laptop to people and say, here, this is what it's like, you can use the same as me. It's not clear that I'll be doing that with Linspire, nor that a community-based version that's not as good will in fact help me. Who will it help?

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  12. Ubuntuspire... by blankoboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Too little too late. Linspire sees Ubuntu becoming the popular girl at school so now she'll sleep with anyone for free.

  13. Freespire = give up your freedom for a driver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Freespire: A Linux Distro For When You Couldn't Care Less About Freedom (http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20060424 164142296)

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  14. Re:I don't know about you ... by jmorris42 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    > Personally, I've wondered when I'd be able to use a both free and legal DVD player in the US.

    Exactly. While all the FSF absolutists will flame away I say it is about darned time. Of course I wouldn't switch distros JUST for the DVD player or any of the other closed bits, but if I could buy em and run them on my preferred distro I'd get a P.O. to em.

    You see, it is only by being willing to compromise (the minimum I can get away with) on the Free principles have I been able to deploy a linux based desktop into a public library setting. Just one example, we use Crossover Office to get IE running. IE isn't negotiable, the only question is Crossover, VMWare or which other method I was going to use to get it running. Too many sites just don't work any other way. For example, assume I'd brazened my way past all the other objections and deployed without IE. Last year wne the Katrina refugees flooded in and discovered they couldn't file an application with FEMA from our labs I'd have been tasked with getting XP installed on am post haste. Especially when Rita hit us directly, making it OUR patrons that we wouln't have been able to help get disaster assistance.

    We don't have much of a need to play video DVDs thankfully, but it doesn't go down all that well when I explain that it would be illegal to do it. People just can't believe it and I really don't have the time to explain the complicated legal probems involved. At home I use libdecss and say "screw em if they don't like it." Hell, I have even mentioned it in protest letters to elected officials. But I won't deploy it at work, the legal liability is just too great. This isn't a problem Free Software can solve. We already HAVE the code but there isn't any path to lagalizing it. Same for Windows Media, Real, etc.

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  15. I really miss Lindows by r00t · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I so wish this had gone to trial, especially since the appeals court ruled that the jury would get to decide if "windows" was a generic term back when Microsoft first started using it. Killing the Windows trademark would be lots of fun.

    Not that I'd want to see "Macrohard Windows", "Slack Windows", "Brown Dog Windows", "iWindows", "eWindows", "Turbo Windows", "IBM Windows", "Debian GNU/Windows", "Windows for Playgroups", "WindowsBSD", "ClearWindows", "Sunny Windows"...

    Aw, yes I would. :-)

  16. There are some differences by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Many of the comments so far are to the effect that Freespire is just another "me too" free distro. I think a careful review shows that this is not quite true. The most important difference is that it comes, out of the box, with proprietary software when necessary because there is no viable free alternative. One can argue whether this is a good thing, but it is a difference.

    The indications are that they have thought this through quite thoroughly. The initial announcement and the web site are quite well done, I think. Considering it is still four months until the first beta, they have a good FAQ (here) which is worth a read. I intend to at least give it a try when the time comes.

  17. Well, you see, this works... by hackwrench · · Score: 4, Funny

    French is a foreign language in Germany, too!

  18. First Beta in August 2006? by Merlynnus · · Score: 4, Insightful
    WTF? From their FAQ:


    30. When will Freespire be available for download?

    The first beta download for the community will be available around August, 2006.


    They're announcing a Linux distribution that won't be available for download in BETA for another 4 months?

  19. Re:To beat an analogy to death Word play? by davidsyes · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well if this project gets really COLD, it'll be FREEZEpire.

    If it gets really HOT, it'll be FreesPYRE.

    If it sucks the life from other distros, it'll be VAMpire.

    If it flat-out dies off, it'll EXpire.

    If it continues to live, it'll REspire.

    If it has a kernel panic, it might PERspire.

    If it woos it's intended audience, then may it TRANCEpire

    But, hopefully, it'll be really NEAT, and good things will TRANSpire...

    (C) David Syes, 2006-04-24 2025

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