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Micro-Pump is Cool Idea for Future Computer Chips
core plexus writes to tell us that Engineers at Purdue University have designed a tiny 'micro-pump' cooling device that can be used to circulate coolant through the channels etched on an individual chip. From the article: "The prototype chip contains numerous water-filled micro-channels, grooves about 100 microns wide, or about the width of a human hair. The channels are covered with a series of hundreds of electrodes, electronic devices that receive varying voltage pulses in such a way that a traveling electric field is created in each channel. The traveling field creates ions, or electrically charged atoms and molecules, which are dragged along by the moving field."
The smallest particle in the coolant would block it.
Chips fabbed in 3D have numerous advantages - short trace lengths, higher density, etc. However, the problem with all of them is getting the heat out with today's convective cooling technologies. This technology will allow multiple cores in 3D to operate without overheating, and that's a good thing as the number of cores in personal computers and servers continues to increase.
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It seems that using a field to push ions around would create "inertia" or damping on the signal that is pushing it.
Wouldn't this impact performance or timing issues within the chip?
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Wouldn't it be easier to do the cooling on the chip and use something that conducts heat very good on the chip? I mean, I would rather have lanes of some conductive, non moving material instead of some liquid running through my CPU, if you don't mind.
...and what's the term for a blocked CPU? Constipated???
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Having wet, electically charged canals in the middle of a CPU sounds weird upon reflection. And aren't they huge compared to the circuits, where's the room?
hmm
Article says challenges include sealing it to prevent leaks...DUH.
Nor did they say the chip included OTHER circuits yet...THE WHOLE REASON for this cooling to exist.
Interesting idea, nothing more and won't be for some time.
This system works in multiple ways, it has an ionisation pulse that travels along the water lines
The pulse ionizes the water the ionized water is dragged by the pulse
the pulse alters the shape of a small membrane, boosting the pump.
as for the efficiency that being said, it's still work in progress, and they (according to the article) haven't solved leakage problems yet.
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Does this mean that I will have to get rid of my 2 radiators, 8 cold cathods, and the blue dye. Will this work with 3/8 id or 1/2 id tubing?
Simplifying, the plants are thought to use similar idea to transport viscous liquid within their vascular system - phloem. Beautiful!r ansport/phloem.html>
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or about the width of a human hair
But, how many fit in the Library of Congress?
The Japanese had a working version of this concept on a macro scale a few years ago, and used it as a boat propulsion device with no external moving parts. I think it was popularized in a cold war submarine movie "The Hunt for Red October" (1990) as the "Caterpillar Drive". The Japanese version wasn't very practical, as I recall, due to a need for large superchilled superconductors and a lot power.
So is this technology the same idea that drives the ion-propulsion shuttle... here we go, like this thing: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/1 5/2336215
just in micro form?
Why not implement oh, I don't know, say, a Peltier Junction directly into the heat spreader? Since you KNOW there is going to be a heat sink (no warranty if no heatsink is used) then any overheating concerns from running the junction without a heat sink are moot.
KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) -- they're over-complicating the solution. Fluid directly in the chip might be a good idea, but let conduction and natural convection handle the heat transfer to the heat spreader. Don't over-complicate this thing with a pump that can break the second a nanometer particle gets into the system.
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Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
For example, one of the assumptions that exists on a semiconductor wafer before it is printed is that it is effectively flat (a typical peak to valley range on a modern wafer within the expected field of a chip is on the order of 175 to 200 nm)
Polishing to that accuracy once structures have been placed on a semiconductor wafer is difficult. Getting a consistent layer of material when you are polishing an uneven surface (uneven due to vias [connections] to the other layers of silicon present) is downright challenging. Another problem with printing transistors on anything but a pure wafer is the issue of reflection. Thin layers of materials on a semiconductor are semi-transparent and not perfectly vertical. Those angled and curved structures produce reflections. Those reflections can cause problems in printing later layers (because of constructive and destructive interference of the light used to expose the photoresist). Those reflections mean that modeling the exposore process of a 3D semiconductor is a VERY challenging task.
Such items are not of concern today, because the later structures placed on the wafer are generally metal lines or capacitors for DRAMs or lenses for image sensors, etc. These are all large and some level of imprecision is acceptable. While variation can cause differnet RC characteristics in metal lines, the timing models in the library or other models can account for this variation. In fact, Matrix Semiconductor has been producing 3D DRAM since about 2004, which shows that heat isn't necessarily the problem, and DRAMs (and memory in general) are a reasonable application for 3D technologies (likely because the capacitors are generally large in relative terms).
Transistors, however, are much more sensitive to variation, and the variation in later polishing used today is too rough for the effective printing of transistors. While I don't doubt that there are situations where the density will be valuable, I think 3D processors and custom chips (in consumer electronics, et al.) are as much an economic issue as a cooling/technical one. (in other words, with my understanding of current roadmaps, you will decrease semiconductor yield to such a degree that 3D may not be economically viable, even if the cooling problem is solved.)
I'm no expert in ASIC design but that doesn't sound like the best thing to have in your extremely sensitive high-speed signals. I assume this field will remain constant and won't provide noise for the chip (or at least I hope) but it will introduce an electrical bias that needs to be planned and compensated for during the chip's layout.
Here's a system that is doing something similiar, but on a larger scale. http://cooligy.com/micro_channel_cooling.html
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Goodbye to Overheating problems, the next problems will be bleeding Chips!!.
Not only is this literally "cool," but many geeks are used to operating a micro-pump..........
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Why bother building the pump into the chip at all? What's wrong with a "mini" external pump, pushing the coolant through simple channels with the traditional pressure gradient? The MEMs on the chip take space that computing HW could occupy. Maybe some MEMs valves and sensors to optimize flows through varying areas as they heat differently during different processing tasks. But the pump can be outboard, where logic HW would be less useful because of signal latency.
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Specifically related to the issues I mentioned: If you are interested in some of the challenges around flatness, you can learn more about dummy fill that must be added to metal layers, by looking at the layman's version or a technical description.
With regard to reflection, you can check out a rather old background article or how anti-reflection layers must be used in modern semiconductor manufacturing to reduce problems.
More specific articles on 3D fabrication can probably be found in recent journals (most likely not available online), or if you're not concerned about reading patents, by reading patents from the USPTO (for reasons of US law which you're probably familiar with, I'm not going to search that and provide you any links). There may also be more by searching for Matrix Semiconductor (which I didn't realize at the time of my first posting has been acquired by SanDisk).
Having said that, there is also 3D packaging, which takes various forms. Semiconductor Cubing (as it's apparently called) can stack lots of semiconductor devices, but note that these are originally fabricated as single layer chips and then they are bonded together to form a larger block.
More recently (and in real production), 3D packaging is being performed through a System in Package (SiP) methodology (you may also see this referred to as a 'chip stack' technology). This is distinct from a multi-chip module (MCM), where the chips are aligned horizontally on the packaging substrate. Today, a SiP is generally a memory module bonded upside down onto a non-memory device (though it can also be used to bond an RF device onto a non-RF device). This form of packaging is receiving attention from SEMATECH as well. Further information from SEMI is also available if you Google for "SEMI Forum: Mapping progress in 3D IC integration".
Beyond that, it's again hard, due to the password protected nature of conference materials and journals... but hopefully that's a good set of links to explore.
...could screw up your chip forever. Its not like you can roto-rooter the thing. The puritity and perfection of the fluid to flow through channels like this would itself be prohibitive for now.
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Did any one else read the headline as "Micro-Pimp"? I was really curious to see what midget pimps were going to do for the furture of computer chips.
sounds similar to the central nervous system organization
someone with a copy of grays anatomy handy take a deep look in the nervous system section.
somewhere you will find an electron micrograph image showing the few nano meter gap that exists between neurons in the cns which is filled with cerebro spinal fluid
Two things: First of all, most of the holes people on Slashdot are pointing out are wrong. You do need this type of cooling for some applications. 3d IC technology is coming -- it is working quite well in acadamic environments.
Second of all, the major problem with microchannel cooling is contamination. The chip right now is sealed to prevent e.g. stray sodium ions wandering in and breaking it. Eventually, chips break because of this sort of effect. When you have fluid flowing in and out, it's very hard to keep contaminants out. Microchannel cooling works in lab for a few months, but doesn't make for chips that work in industry for years.
Peltier coolers are so inefficient, they are terrible at cooling anything. You note no one uses one on any heatsinks right now, don't you?
Peltier coolers are incredibly inefficient, and the power they waste turns directly into heat (of course), so you end up heating up the thing you wanted to cool down.
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Except for supercomputers, servers, and hard-core gamers with air conditioning, who is going to want chips that will generate substantially more heat than current chips? If CPUs alone start using hundreds of watts of power, people are going to take notice, and even the most naive shopper will start taking this into account. Already, Intel has realized that their ridiculous space heaters are a dead end.
How do you put a sphy.... uhmmm sphygnomo.. mona.. uhmm (google, copy, paste) Sphygmomanometer on a CPU anyways?
Although not many details are given, it seems to me this people just adapted an existing analytical technology called Capillary Electrophoresis. The piezo pump is a clever addition to the system to improve the micro-liter per second flows typically obtained in CE technology.
I wonder where and how they want to hang the liquid reservoir with the cooling solution. The processor may have to come then with an attached infusion bag like those you get at hospitals.
Now if our CPUs could drown, somewhere near the "printer on fire" error, there needs to be a "CPU is downing" error, right?
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"The prototype chip contains numerous water-filled micro-channels, grooves about 100 microns wide, or about the width of a human hair."
Being that I live in the north, I am a bit skeptical about water being inside of the chip. They didn't mention anything about how it can handle cold temperatures.
If you were to transport an item with one of these cooling mechanisms in the winter time (perhaps to a repair location) is there the potential that the water in the channels could freeze? Would it be capable of withstanding that amount of expansion when the water becomes ice?
Maybe they could modify the process to drool out biodiesel.
So now the people with dicks so small they need a microscope to see, you can now have a penis pump to go with it =)
More to the point is this not like the catapiller drive used by the Red October in Hunt for Red October?
Very impressive - but pointless I suspect. Channels that small won't hold much fluid, which means very little cooling capacity.