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Apple Grooming Next Gen of Executives

capt turnpike writes "The modern Apple as we know it -- the good one with open-source Darwin, with Unix-based OS X, and so on -- was mainly the creation of NeXT: Steve Jobs, Avie Tevanian and Jon Rubenstein. What's going to happen to Apple once this troika leaves? eWEEK.com looks at the orderly transition out of Jon and Avie and asks whether things could go as smoothly should Jobs need to retire." From the article: "At some companies, such a loss of leadership could leave the company with a power vacuum or a lack of direction. However, Apple seems to be conscious that no single person--except, perhaps, CEO Steve Jobs himself--is irreplaceable, and that new talent can always be groomed for the future."

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  1. WOW, I just posted a Craigslist column about this by NCTRNAL · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not two weeks ago. How ironic Here it is. Interesting to see what regular folks think about this kind of stuff. http://forums.phoenix.craigslist.org/?ID=41833383

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  2. Promote from within?? by Lije+Baley · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is this, a time warp? These days companies don't "groom" new talent, they buy it. They prefer to buy other companies' overhyped leaders, just like they buy other companies' overhyped projects instead of doing their own R&D.

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    1. Re:Promote from within?? by 10Ghz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "They prefer to buy other companies' overhyped leaders, just like they buy other companies' overhyped projects instead of doing their own R&D."

      Like NeXT :)?

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  3. Digital Media Company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Apple is rapidly transforming into a digital media company.

    The people that were key to the Mac side of the company are growing less and less relevant to the future of the company.

    OS X
    Mac hardware
    and most of the rest of Apple's desktop computing stuff is all going to quietly and gently be phased out of the next few years as the company focuses on the high growth area of consumer computing devices - small, mobile, and wireless.

    Look for Apple to replace the Mac/OS X type people with people from companies like Sony and Disney.

    The Era of the Desktop Computer is rapidly coming to an end. Companies in that market will survive but it will never be a booming market again. OS X/Windows -> Linux and Apple/Dell ->Asian manufactures over the next few year.

    1. Re:Digital Media Company by e4g4 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The Era of the Desktop computer will very soon become The Era of the Home Server - desktops won't die, they'll simply become our centralized data storage and home automation servers. As it stands even now, many (tech minded) people run an old desktop as a server, and as the software improves, more people will use (static) machines to stream video and audio to every room in their house, and manage storage, synchronization and backup of multiple small, wireless devices.

      The benefit of owning both a desktop and a laptop is that you can have, relatively affordably, a machine with massive storage space and computing power, and several portable devices all capable of sharing data regardless of geographic location (assuming there's a wireless signal). So, while the per capita ownership of "desktop" computers may decline - they will most certainly not disappear, just change form slightly.

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  4. Re:They should just.... by dietrollemdefender · · Score: 3, Insightful
    They should just hire someone from something like, oh, say a soda company. Selling computers can't be that different from selling soda...

    FTFA:This move created two new components of the company; the existing hardware division, which had been under Rubinstein's eye, split into iPod and Macintosh divisions.

    Apple is a much different company than it was then. Apple is focusing on innovative consumer devices. I can't see Apple focusing entirely on PCs - it's a commodity business that's becoming more difficult every year to keep margins up - we'll see with the move to Intel chips :-). They have to keep expanding their business outside of the PC business and possibly have the PC business actually become secondary to Apple's primary businesses.

  5. Where are these new managers? by harshmanrob · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Most management I encounter makes me wonder how they got the job in the first place. My current employer boasts the most number of exceptions since my division is relatively new. However, in most organizations, management are the good 'ole boys clubs and these people are not interested in training new managers. Most people with any motivation or interest in management and not part of the club usually get trumped out...yours truly included (a number of times). I am happy to report I have no interest in leadership and no longer seek any management position. At the same time, I see all these articles about IT and management merging. That is like Oil and Water mixing. It ain't gonna work. People who write these articles are dumbasses with no idea of how IT actually works. IT managers would not ship jobs to India, non-IT managers do it everyday. Most people who get promoted from IT into a manager position do not last very long.

    1. Re:Where are these new managers? by Ubergrendle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your argument that "non-IT managers outsource to India, IT managers don't" clearly shows your lack of understanding (and respect) for management as a profession. Management does NOT mean keeping you people happy all the time; its impossible. Good management though does mean being consistent, supportive of your staff and their career growth, providing a positive work environment, and making hard decisions. It is HARDER to manage and individual's performance problem, or to selectively reduce headcount, than it is to give everyone 2 hour lunches and install a pool table in the cafeteria.

      As for outsourcing...if I have a stable operations environment, solid architecture, dependable project management, reliable Q/A, and a clear product lifecycle infront of me, why WOULDN'T I outsource development if the quality was the same, I retain the source code, and I can get it for pennies on the dollar?

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    2. Re:Where are these new managers? by harshmanrob · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Do I respect management as a profession? No and nor will I ever. I respect people who competant, perform and bring value to the table. Do I understand management? You damn skippy I do. Too many good and hard working people are routinely shown the door when incompetent people manage to keep their jobs because they are buddy-buddy with the boss. Do not give me some load of shit those are "isolated" cases. We both know that is in fact, the norm. The qualities of a "good" manager you described above, I can count the managers I have met with those qualities on one hand, and I have been doing this for 15 years. You clearly are a manager and took a dislike to my observations. 99.9% people who have never been (or will ever likely will be) a manager would agree with my position.

    3. Re:Where are these new managers? by AnalystX · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've got a news flash for you:

      "Good management though does mean being consistent, supportive of your staff and their career growth, providing a positive work environment, and making hard decisions." == "keeping you people happy"

      I know I would have very little to be unhappy about if the above were true.

    4. Re:Where are these new managers? by boomgopher · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As for outsourcing...if I have a stable operations environment, solid architecture, dependable project management, reliable Q/A, and a clear product lifecycle infront of me, why WOULDN'T I outsource development if the quality was the same, I retain the source code, and I can get it for pennies on the dollar?

      Because it's destructive to employee moral, and does not contribute to your local society be paying income to local employees. You are piping money out of whatever country you are in, and milking the benefits of your safe, stable society and government and not contributing back to it. Why should you care? Because the country you are in enabled you or whoever to create your company. The local taxes indirectly subsidize your business via military and police portection, infrastructure, etc. India, etc. did not.

      Don't even try the "ah but I can spend more here because of the cost savings" stuff. X dollars in 5 hands contributes more to society than X dollars in 1 hand.

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  6. Meaningless statement by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 2, Insightful
    However, Apple seems to be conscious that no single person--except, perhaps, CEO Steve Jobs himself--is irreplaceable, and that new talent can always be groomed for the future."

    Hm. So, except for the person who personifies the company in every way, everyone's replaceable. That's a pretty big "except."

  7. "The Good One"? by Illbay · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ...the good one with open-source Darwin, with Unix-based OS X, and so on...

    As opposed to "the bad one" with AppleOS, MacOS through 9, Nu-Bus, etc.?

    Wasn't that the same guys? (Or Jobs, anyway).

    What makes the OP think that these guys are such altruists?

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    1. Re:"The Good One"? by eclectic4 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "As opposed to "the bad one" with AppleOS, MacOS through 9, Nu-Bus, etc.? Wasn't that the same guys? (Or Jobs, anyway)."

      No, it wasn't. For 12 years (1985-1997) it was Scully, etc... did you forget Jobs was ousted, only to see the company come perilously close to failing until Jobs came back?

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  8. Re:WOW, I just posted a Craigslist column about th by n2art2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ok, Coward.

    Who's the better person?

    The one who incorrectly (however very commonly) missused the work ironic, or the person who hides as a coward and yells out from the crowd an insult?

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  9. Re:Jobs may be a liability to finding his replacem by cowscows · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, he'd probalby prefer someone whos "visions" match his own. Not necessarily because he likes being told how good his ideas are, but because he's very often been right, and has much success. You're right, it reduces the pool of candidates, but that's a good thing. Finding a person isn't hard, finding the right person is. Anything that can help you trim away people is a good thing.

    I've never met Jobs, so I'm just guessing, but I'd imagine that at times, he's more than willing to entertain other people's ideas and criticisms, it's just that at the end of the day, he's the boss, and once he's made a decision, you need to commit yourself to making that a reality, or else he doesn't want you as an employee. And that doesn't seem like a particularly bad way to run things. But maybe I'm wrong about all this.

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