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World's Largest Pyramid Discovered in Bosnia?
kieran writes "Archaeologists have apparently begun to unearth a massive pyramid which had been masquerading as a hill in the Bosnian town of Visoko. At an estimated 722ft in height, it is expected to be 1/3 taller than Egypt's Great Pyramid of Giza."
There's not much resolution from this satellite image, but here's the pyramid's location using Google maps.
I'm a little dubious here - the lead of this project, Semir Osmanagic says (from abc) he sees astonishing similarities between the structures and Mexican pyramids dating back to about 200 AD, which also come in pairs, one believed to represent the Sun and the other the Moon.
How can he know that with so little excavated? And his foundation has the rather fortean-timesish name of "Archaeological Park: Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun Foundation"
There's a far better (and longer) article at the art newspaper.
You can also the have a look at the photos of the hill (scroll down) in this bosnian forum (yup, looks like a pyramid).
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The world's largest pyramid is soon to be discovered. I believe the link to this pyramid is here.
Whoops.
We know how they built pyramids. Huge dirt ramps and lots of slave labor.
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I am sure that a lot more funds are spent toward oil-finding than pyramids-finding.
Also we consume less pyramids than oil. That makes finding them a lesser strategical objective.
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Always right on top of things, eh, editors?
First: The Bosnian "pyramid" (a roughly four-sided hill where they've found nothing but a mound of dirt so far) hit the news last year, in Early November IIRC.
Second, the fellow cho claims it a pyramid ranks right up there with Uri Gellar as far as credibility goes, according to Archaology last week.
So +5 for topical, but minus a million for reporting on entirely the wrong end of the issue. They didn't just discover it, they just debunked the discovery.
this story is utterly false and the dude who discovered it is a crazy. Here is a link with handy details. http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/osmanag ic/
This is why Europe is, even today, a world leader in pyramids. You can outsource all the pyramid building you want to the israelites, but when you employ cheap slave labor, you get 1/3 less cubits.
U send me pyramid 4 ur outsourced job plz.
How do you miss something like that for so long?
The same way the idiot on his cell phone misses the red light and slams into you: inattention to your surroundings.
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We should probably send Geraldo Rivera to investigate. His experience with Al Capone's vault makes him more than qualified.
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And everyone pointing to the archaeology organization site naming him as a nutjob, guess what folks? It won't be debunked until they've fully excavated the site. Whether or not the man in charge is crazy or not has little bearing on the validity of his claims, particularly when the evidence would be a gigantic fucking pyramid. There isn't anything to debate, it's either there or not.
Also, I'd say that a majority of the archaelogical society hates new findings that contradict their old theories, and can often go out of their way to ostracize and decredit people that publish or support findings that would invalidate all the time spent writing papers on any particularly well-accepted idea.
Ex nihilo nihil fit.
Or the way an idiot without a cell phone misses the red light and slams into you: inattention to your surroundings.
I hope that this doesn't turn out to be linked to some religion or other. All we need is another whacko group claiming to have the only true religion, and proof of its veracity in this pyramid. I truly do hope that this is built by, or inspired by alien visitors, perhaps stranded travellers or something. As long as its anything but more religious hype/tripe/your-fav-bad-thing-here.
Because if your first thought upon discovering a pyramid is that it was "built by, or inspired by alien visitors" you are far saner, more rational, and down to earth than those religious "whacko group[s]"...
Uttering logically derived and empirically supported truths to the disciples of the orthodox establishment.
From the pictures on the web-sites linked to, it does seem reasonable to assume that there is something there. Geography is rarely THAT regular and it seems like the people digging have found evidence of blocks, construction, tunnels etc. These might be Roman or Ottoman era remains, or they might not.
History is long and great periods are undocumented or forgotten. It seems absolutely reasonable that the ruins of great civilization could have gone unnoticed in Bosnia especially as this area has seen almost constant and vicious warfare for most of the modern era. I think it is very unfortunate that this discovery has been tarred with pseudo-science before real results have been developed.
April 28, 2006 | 11:40 p.m. ET
Pyramid problems: Is the tale of the Bosnian pyramid too good to be true? Last week, The Associated Press reported evidence that a 2,120-foot-high hill in central Bosnia-Herzegovina might actually be a buried step pyramid. This week, Archaeology magazine questioned the scientific soundness of the operation and its leader, amateur archaeologist Semir Osmanagic. Archaeology quotes experts who say there's little more to the project than "sensationalism and grandstanding," and worry that it may be damaging legitimate artifacts from medieval, Roman and Illyrian times.
There's certainly a good deal of kookiness surrounding the story. Osmanagic, for example, links his pyramid theories to Atlantis and the Maya, while an online petition aimed at stopping Osmanagic's dig refers darkly to U.S.-orchestrated conspiracy theories. Stay tuned for further twists in the tale, and feel free to send in your comments after you read Archaeology magazine's report.
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What I however find most amusing are on the one hand the leaps of faith were assumption after assumption is made only to then conclude the end result to be fact. In this case it is assumed the document was found in a certain part of egypt. They then use the fact that the document is in a certain style/era to then claim that because they found another cave with artifacts in that style/era that it could very well be the cave.
WTF? First off, just because the document was from an era/style DOES NOT mean it has to have spend all the time in a cave of the era/style. It could have been picked up before an buried somewhere else. Second of all just because some cave contains stuff from the same era that does not mean that the object must have come from that region.
Oh look. A pair of mickey mouse ears. They must have come from florida!
Eh? No? They could have come not only from one of the other disney parks but they in fact never have come from a park at all.
Then there is the other side. The entire program is about how there are more gospels then there are known today. It is shown that a mere human decided wich gospels would be included in the new testament.
It is even clearly shown that very simple political and marketting reasons lay behind the choice.
So then what do people think about the Judas gospel. Well it is funny but the "real" gospels are somehow still more real and have something holy about them.
WTF? Just goes to show that facts and believes have nothing to do with each other.
But I suppose that if you have to answer the question why and how did the egyptians build the pyramids the answer "bored, lots and lots of people with no tv to watch" just doesn't cut it. Better to get some fantasy going. Star people! Yeah, never mind that amazing as the pyramids are they seem kinda primitive for a star faring civilization.
I just go with the old prove for the fact that we have been visited by intelligent aliens in the past. They ain't been back. Smart move.
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Actually, a lot of recent evidence suggests that the pyramids where not built by slaves, but rather by paid workers. See below:
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I have been following this story since October of last year, there has been a lot of information published and a lot of time spent on either side of 'piramidasa' and 'antipiramidasa' arguing whether the former pyramid believers and later pyramid non-believers are right. Here is a link to a satellite analysis of the region http://piramidasunca.ba/ajaxfiles/epodmeni/eizvjes taji/Geophysical%20Analysis.pdf
At http://www.astreamagazine.com/osmanagic_serie_radi o_frm.html there are links to an interview with astraea magazine, good listen a direct link at http://www.astreamagazine.com/interviews/osmanagic /osmanagic_high.m3u
At http://www.piramidasunca.ba/ you can find the official foundation site and more pictures, click on the British flag for english version :).
Also googling "sarajevo-x piramida" will get you a link to a forum that's been going since last year, with posts mainly in Bosnian with some in English.
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It could exhibit plasticity lying somewhere between solid and liquid, like Silly Putty, which acts like a highly viscous fluid in a relaxed state, but solid properties under stress.
But the point is moot anyway. The Earth's core is made of creamy nougat.
"Yo! I found a European pyramid!"
Fuck that one, what about that giant pyramid right in the middle of Las Vegas?
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People sleep, work and play in it without even realizing the historical and architectural significance even though it's RIGHT ON THEIR DOORSTEP!!
(Mass transit is infinitely superior to cars, anyway, and any "socialist" worthy of the title should know this. Wiping out a key piece of history is also about as anti-social as you can get. Besides which, the city can't take up that much space. Build the car park UNDER it. Spain does have mining equiptment, right? It's not totally deprived of technology, however bereft of wits it might be. Then you can have the ruins AND the car park.)
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