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I Was Young And I Needed The Money

The Escapist this week is running a great article by Richard Bartle entitled I Was Young And I Needed The Money. He doles out the sordid details of his experience developing a never-released sexy text MMOG. From the article: "All we required was some fiendish mind-control system to persuade people to play a text game when they really wanted to play EverQuest. So, that would be sex, then. I'd written a pitch for a sex MUD about five years earlier, but the funding fell through. Now was the time to dust it off! The thing is, sex in a text world has three things going for it that sex in a graphics world doesn't ... "

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  1. Freeform textual sex? by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

    Has been around for ages. Where was he hiding when MU* games were created. I'm pretty sure the first line ever said in a MUD is "hey, cool, it's working!" The second: "Wanna fuck?"

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    1. Re:Freeform textual sex? by optikSmoke · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Where was he hiding when MU* games were created.

      Writing it?

    2. Re:Freeform textual sex? by ccmay · · Score: 2, Funny
      The second: "Wanna fuck?"

      Undoubtedly right, and no doubt many people have discovered sexual gratification that way, but it's not for me.

      Remember, the Internet is where men are men, and women are men, and 14-year-old girls are FBI men.

      -ccm

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    3. Re:Freeform textual sex? by msuzio · · Score: 4, Funny

      Where's the moderation option, +1 - "Oh, Snap"

  2. This has to be good by mackil · · Score: 3, Funny

    "The thing is, sex in a text world has three things going for it that sex in a graphics world doesn't ... "

    Man am I waiting on the punchline for this!

  3. I thought... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 3, Funny

    Funny, when reading the title I thought it was an RPG about being a prostitute. It would be interesting for a change.

  4. Before the Karma Whores get here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    The 3 things are: (for the lazy)

    1.It's freeform. You don't have to motion-capture every position in the Kama Sutra and beyond, because people can animate it themselves using words.

    2.It's legal. You can write about antics that you would be jailed for depicting visually. The word is pornography, not pornotexty.

    3.For a basic sex game to work, you need comparable numbers of both men and women. A female-friendly game, by virtue of its having women in it, is male-friendly; therefore, you need to attract women. And hey, guess what? Study after study has shown that, in general, women prefer words to pictures - especially when it comes to sexual fantasizing.

  5. Bwahahaha!!! by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 4, Funny
    As for the sex act itself, we implemented it using a modification of the classic MUD combat system.

    Anyone else get to this line and laugh uncontrollably for five minutes straight?

    1. Re:Bwahahaha!!! by darkhitman · · Score: 5, Funny

      I can't resist this, crude as it may be:

      It is now your turn.
      Your ejaculation hits Kara101 for 32 damage.

      Kara101 has died.


      Experience gained: 50 points.

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    2. Re:Bwahahaha!!! by g33uu · · Score: 3, Funny

      As for the sex act itself, we implemented it using a modification of the classic MUD combat system. This sounds appropriate. Battles in the classic MUD combat system never lasted very long for me.

    3. Re:Bwahahaha!!! by Famanoran · · Score: 2, Funny

      Simple.

      -1 Virginity.
      A death blow to most geeks. :)

  6. Re:When will they learn the web is not a postcard? by snuf23 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Agreed. Everytime they run an Escapist article someone posts a response like yours. At least they do have a text link on the page.

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  7. Re:When will they learn the web is not a postcard? by macshit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yup. In fact with my browser and fonts, it's completely unreadable (half the text overflows the white box and ends up displayed as black on dark blue...).

    I suppose it probably displays properly in Internet Explorer if you happen to have exactly the same settings as the page designer ("but, but, it worked for me!!").

    OTOH, the page does have a convenient "text" button to bypass the page designer's idiocies. [A lot of sites don't seem to have even that.]

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  8. Re:When will they learn the web is not a postcard? by 4D6963 · · Score: 2, Informative
    I wonder when idiot web designers will stop trying to make the web look like a postcard instead of a text document.

    Personally the only thing that disturbs me about this site is the naked dude on the second page. Had to resize my browser window to get him out of my sight while reading the text.

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  9. Textual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I put on my robe and wizard hat"

    1. Re:Textual by LordEd · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here's what this refers to in case you don't know.

  10. Actually, I just have to wonder... by Moraelin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm wondering if that article is some elaborate form of trolling, or what. Even _if_ someone bought a game just to "cyber" (sad as it may be), if I put on my thinking cap and try to think about it with a straight face, it seems like a collection of bad ideas and missing the point by a mile.

    E.g., his #1 reason for text-based sex is that it's free form... then he mentions implementing it as a modification of the combat system. WTF? There goes "free form" right out the window.

    E.g., his #3 reason is that women prefer their sex in text form. Yes, that means novels and stories, not some automatized spam. I'm not sure if even any guy would actually get off on replacing MUD combat with some spam of "You thrust your tool in." and "You pull your tool out." If anything, just thinking about some automated macro there seems to me a major turn off.

    Also I don't know what studies he's read there, because all that _I've_ read points at women being put off by "R U A GRL??? WANNA CYBER???" kids in online games. It pops up again and again as the reason why they're playing a male character.

    (Oh, yes, there are women playing online games all right. But the funny thing is, the naked elf chick dancing in the Stormwind fountain probably isn't a RL woman. Chances are higher that the dwarf male with the beard down to his knees or the massive tauren male with a huge mallet are the RL women.)

    Basically I can hardly believe that this is the same guy who had the insight to describe the types of MUD players, or create the first MUD in the first place. Oh yes, I can believe that he's seen plenty of cybering on his MUD. Can give one the idea of just making a game around that. But then, didn't they have meetings of MUD players and such? Might give one suspicions when the only ones that show up and are female (again, yes, they did exist) are the ones who weren't playing a virtual prostitute.

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  11. Was this freeform by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I get the idea from his description of some game mechanics that this was NOT just a mud with cybersex. Rather that the sex was a game mechanic. He does after all talk about how he adopted the combat system.

    So it would be far more then just chatting "wanna fuck". You would actuallly have to worry about stats. Probably for the male of making sure you stimulate her enough that you don't come to fast. Wonder if male players are disconnected within a few minutes of climax?

    It sounds like he was trying for way more then just another adult chatroom. Could have been intresting BUT hard to sell indeed.

    Companies got very weird attitudes to sex. Just check phone companies and how they handle porn. THey are happy to rake in the cash from phonesex lines and mobile porn sites but nobody wants to be the assigned to handle them.

    But all is not lost. Read the recent article of upcoming MMO's. Naughty America is sex based and I remember another story about an MMO set in London that has sex as well.

    I just hope that they indeed have the whole sex/relationship put in as game mechanics. If it is just freeform sex I am gonna suck at it as bad is in real life. Now anyone know how to grind a really big dick?

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    1. Re:Was this freeform by Jearil · · Score: 2, Informative

      Now anyone know how to grind a really big dick?

      No, but I think I have a very helpful email in my inbox. Let me forward it to you :)

  12. tag: sex-bad-violence-good by ofcourseyouare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A note for the tagging beta people: I suggest you need a new tag called "sex-bad-violence-good". This article should be tagged with it, along with yesterday's one about the scandalous "sex scenes" in Oblivion, the shocking hot coffee mod etc. It's such a huge issue. It's the elephant in the living room of games culture. Or maybe there are two elephants. And God knows what they're doing together, but you better not make a game out of it.

  13. So basically.... by revlayle · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... someone is creating a new IRC channel... right???