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Bio-diesel Made from Sewage

tito writes "A New Zealand company has successfully turned sewage into modern-day gold. New Zealand Herald is reporting that a Marlborough-based Aquaflow Bionomic yesterday announced it had produced its first sample of bio-diesel fuel from algae in sewage ponds. It is believed to be the world's first commercial production of bio-diesel from 'wild' algae outside the laboratory - and the company expects to be producing at the rate of at least one million litres of the fuel each year from Blenheim by April."

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  1. But will it smell like by flafish · · Score: 4, Funny

    sewage coming out of the tailpipe or french fries?

  2. You've got to be shitting me. by casings · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally we are going to be able to use our waste to ease some form of our lives.

    I can already think of a slogon- "Waste makes haste"

    1. Re:You've got to be shitting me. by myth24601 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Really adds a new dimension to the term "tail pipe emissions."

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  3. Re:E85 costs more than regular gas! by IDontAgreeWithYou · · Score: 3, Informative

    E85 != Biodiesel.

    E85 is ethanol.
    Biodiesel is ... well... biologically produced diesel fuel.

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  4. one million litres? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How much is that compared to the oil consumption of New Zealand? How many of those factories would be needed to be independent of crude oil and would that be feasible?

    1. Re:one million litres? by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 3, Informative

      How much is that compared to the oil consumption of New Zealand? How many of those factories would be needed to be independent of crude oil and would that be feasible?

      NZ consumes around 151,900 blue barrels a day that's around 8815 million litres a year. So this plant will be able to provide around 0.01% of NZ's fuel.

      But, there is going to be no single replacement for fossil fuels, there's going to be many (and this is just the first plant).

      I wish Aquaflow Bionomics Corporation's home page was a little more professional looking, but this is most certainly good news!

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    2. Re:one million litres? by WindBourne · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Not really significant,

      So, lets see; they reduce their waste problem, they lower their oil usage, and even lower their co2 emissions. Well, it appears to be headed in the right direction, rather than in wrong.

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    3. Re:one million litres? by Bishop · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I believe once the percentage of Biofuel in normal fuel goes above ~10% this is when modifications are needed to the vehicle.

      The modifications are minimal. Some seals and fuel lines may need to be replaced, and a larger fuel fiter is often required. Any diesel engine can be converted to run 100% unrefinned cooking oil by simply adding a cooking oil fuel tank. The problem with most bio-diesel is that the fuel becomes too thick at lower temperatures. In the artic 2% bio-diesel may be too much. In California you may be able to run 100% all year long. Engines that run on unrefinned cooking oil typically start on dino-diesel and heat the cooking oil with waste heat from the engine.

  5. Hmmmmmmmmmn, by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    As well as creating diesel from waste products, the process cleans water:
    Creating fuel from the algae removes the problem while producing useful clean water, said Mr Leay. The clean water can then be used for stock food, irrigation and, if treated properly, for human consumption.
    In spite of this, I'm sure a million slashdotters are going to bleat about this not solving the fuel crisis, giving us their back of napkin calculations that show you'll need to cover the entire surface of the united states with algae ponds to replace fossil fuels, etc.

    Remember folks - there is not going to be a single replacement for fossil fuels, but many (and lets not forget the other half of the equation - reducing our energy consumption).
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    1. Re:Hmmmmmmmmmn, by bhima · · Score: 4, Funny

      Covering the entire surface of the United States with shit eating algae sounds like a step in the right direction... can we start in Washington?

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    2. Re:Hmmmmmmmmmn, by sharkey · · Score: 4, Funny
      shit eating algae ... start in Washington?

      Some might say it's already started.

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    3. Re:Hmmmmmmmmmn, by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      As Australia consumes 50 billion litres of oil yearly, and this plant produces 1 million litres of oil yearly, I'd say you're going to need a lot of waterways clogged with algae!

      On a side note - I believe the Australian waterways are clogged with blue-green algaes? (The same neon-blue blooms you see in many US waterways). It's a big problem - but I'm not sure blue green algaes are suitable for this method of biodiesel production.

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  6. Nothing new by aadvancedGIR · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You can produce bio-diesel from a vast diversity of lifeforms as long as they contain lipids. The real question is to know if a source can be economically viable.

    1. Re:Nothing new by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 4, Funny

      Then fill up the tank with premium, because I want to associate with only quality people.

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  7. Re:E85 costs more than regular gas! by flafish · · Score: 3, Informative

    Only reason E-85 costs more in the US is because we make it with corn instead of sugar cane. Brazil based theirs on cane and produce it for about half what it costs for gasoline.

  8. 1 million litres? by zeronitro · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1 Million litres may be a decent start, but it sure isn't much. There's a corn-fuled ethanol producing plant in Kansas that produces 26 million gal of ethanol a year, and that hardly makes a dent (src: popular mechanics). (and yeah I know bio-diesel has a higher BTU then corn-based ethanol, but it still wouldn't reach even close to the output of another alt fuel plant).

    If we were smart we would pull a brazil and start producing more corn to use as ethanol. They will be oil-independent by next year. Sugar-based ethanol is something like 8 times more efficient then corn-based. Shows what we know right?

    1. Re:1 million litres? by awilden · · Score: 5, Informative

      I think you mean switch to sugar cane since it's 8x more efficient than corn. Corn is what we already have, and sugar is what Brazil is using right now.

    2. Re:1 million litres? by bourne · · Score: 4, Informative
      1 Million litres may be a decent start, but it sure isn't much. There's a corn-fuled ethanol producing plant in Kansas that produces 26 million gal of ethanol a year, and that hardly makes a dent

      I'm not sure I see your point. You're saying we'd need to find 26 municipalities with wastewater treatment plants to convert to algae farms, which would be part of the requisite wastewater treatment solution as well as producing fuel, in order to match one plant which requires farmers to go out and actively produce feedstock for at added expense? That's more than just 'decent' in my book. And imagine what your municipality would say if you told them they could offset the costs of fuel and wastewater treatment at the same time - ka-ching!

      If we were smart we would pull a brazil and start producing more corn to use as ethanol. They will be oil-independent by next year. Sugar-based ethanol is something like 8 times more efficient then corn-based. Shows what we know right?

      Taking advantage of existing feedstock (read: waste) beats growing feedstock for most efficiencies. And if you want to look for more viable biodiesel feedstocks, there's a wide number - rapeseed, mustard, jatropha, and palm oil. See the table at Wikipedia. Note that algae wins hands down over crops.

  9. Inventor contributes 1st SewageBio-Diesel Car Seat by digitaldc · · Score: 3, Funny

    An inventor, Mr. Simpson from Springfield, has invented a new car seatto be used in conjunction with the vehicles that will run on sewage bio-diesel.
    Simpson said, "It's just a prototype right now, but it has been my lifelong dream to contribute something truly my own to this bio-movement."

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  10. Hooray! by thelonestranger · · Score: 5, Funny

    My car already runs LIKE shit, now it can run ON shit as well.

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  11. Re:E85 costs more than regular gas! by morie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Another reason is that gasprices in the US are incredibly low from a european point of view, mostly due to taxes. Biofuel would be less likely te be as heavily taxed over here, making it cheaper at the gas station.

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  12. The UNH Study by Zobeid · · Score: 4, Informative

    The UNH Biodiesel Group calculated that algae farms in the Mojave Desert alone could supply enough fuel to replace all the gasoline used in the USA. That was just an example to show the land-area requirements. In practice you would want algae cultivation spread out around the country. (The availability of waste feedstocks around the country is one reason.)

    I like biodiesel as a long-term solution for several reasons. . .

    Because an air-breathing engine draws much of its "fuel" mass from the air, it starts with a large advantage in energy density, and it will be hard for other energy sources -- batteries, supercapacitors, flywheels -- to ever compete.

    Unlike hydrogen, we already have the infrastructure in place to handle, store and distribute biodiesel, and millions of vehicles that can already run off it, and the capacity to economically produce millions more of them.

    Producing it from algae mimics the process by which petroleum originally formed, over the eons. It might seem unrealistic to produce enough biofuel on a year-by-year basis to replace the *millions* of years worth of petroleum that we routinely burn without thinking anything of it. . . But the natural processes that created petroleum were haphazard, and hardly what anyone would call efficient.

    If you replace haphazard processes with specially selected (maybe genetically engineered) strains of algae kept in controlled conditions, with concentrated feed of nutrients and sunlight, the production capacity could be immense. So yeah, I think it can be done.

    We might not ever see dirt-cheap fuel again, but I'm optimistic that we can come up with petroleum alternatives at a level that allows our economy and industry to keep on functioning.

    1. Re:The UNH Study by MtViewGuy · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you replace haphazard processes with specially selected (maybe genetically engineered) strains of algae kept in controlled conditions, with concentrated feed of nutrients and sunlight, the production capacity could be immense. So yeah, I think it can be done.

      In fact, that is what a company called GreenFuel Technologies wants to do. Put up a couple of hundred acres of special vertical tanks (maybe derived from metal tanks used by large commercial breweries) and feed the tanks full of oil-laden algae with the exhaust gases from a coal-fired or natural gas-fired plant. This results in VERY fast growth of the algae and also absorbs 40% of the CO2 gas and 86% of the NOx gases, with the final exhaust gases having way below the Kyoto Protocol mandates for coal-fired powerplant emissions. Just a single 200-acre setup could produce an astonishing 15 million gallons of biodiesel fuel/heating oil per year, and the "waste" from the processing of the algae could be used to make animal feed, plant fertilizer or even make ethanol! :-)

      If we set up such "farms" of algae tanks next to every large coal-fired or natural gas-fired plant in the USA we could make enough biodiesel fuel/heating oil to drastically reduce the need for refining diesel fuel or heating oil from crude oil. Given modern catalytic "cracker" technology at most US refineries this means more of the crude oil can be used to make gasoline and/or kerosene motor fuels.

  13. Don't tell me by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Funny
    You can produce bio-diesel from a vast diversity of lifeforms as long as they contain lipids

    Humans contain lipids.

  14. What about thermal depolymerization? by dorbabil · · Score: 3, Informative

    TDP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_depolymerizat ion produces light crude, not biodiesel. It'd work just fine on sewage, in addition to pretty much anything else that contains any lipids, plastics, gums, rubbers, etc. Long carbon chains, basically. I keep my eye on the company and technology, and am extremely disapointed that the only commercial plant up and running so far is only pumping out approximately 800,000 gallons per year from waste (turkey offal) that's not actually waste because the US government hasn't outlawed using animal products as animal feed.

  15. Re:Biodiesel Yield Per Land Area by Xichekolas · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to the UNH study and Wikipedia, the yield of algae farms is about 5000 to 20,000 gallons per acre of pond per year. This number varies mostly due to the pond conditions, strain of algae used, and oil collection method employed.

    However, it is worthwhile to note that even the low end (5000 gallons per acre per year) is over 100 times better than soybeans (50 gallons per acre per year) or rapeseed (about 120 gallons per acre per year)... which are the two dominant crops providing biodiesel in America and Europe today.

    To supply the entire US fuel needs would require as little as 0.3% of US land area to be covered by algae ponds. This translates to about 28,000 square kilometers, or about 11,000 square miles. To put this in perspective, that is about 1/8th the size of Kansas... and well less than the area devoted to Soybeans currently.

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  16. The Bright Side of the Bright Side. by RoffleTheWaffle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Okay, so we all know a million liters of fuel isn't much in the grand scheme of things. Worldwide, many billions of gallons and tons of assorted fossil fuels are consumed, which means that a million gallons a year from one facility is pretty small potatoes when stacked up against the fuel demands of the world.

    I think we're forgetting that the fuel need not leave town, though. Locally produced bio-fuels could supply limited geographic areas with at least some quantity of cheap fuel, which at least helps whoever lives there. It doesn't have to travel, meaning it retains much more of its value since less energy and effort has to be spent to move it from point 'A' to point 'B', and since a township produces it, a township reaps the benefits, immediately benefitting the local economy. It's like the farmer's market for gas, yaknow?

    I have to wonder if anyone here has ever heard the phrase, "Think global, act local." I also have to wonder if anyone here considers that it's pretty stupid to rely on just one source of fuel. Let me lay it out for you, here - we already have an absolutely massive bio-fuel 'portfolio', detailing dozens of ways that businesses and communities can produce useful quantities of bio-deisel and ehtanol, but using just one or two of them probably isn't going to be enough to take oil out of the picture, especially if only a few people give it a shot. Right now, we need to take what we can get, and the ability to produce fuel in the process of purifying wastewater is something nobody should overlook. If nothing else, the cost of water purification could be offset by fuel sales, potentially reducing utility costs.

  17. Algae biodiesel by hlh_nospam · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Algae farming actually has the potential of replacing all diesel and gasoline usage in the US using only a tiny fraction of the land area available. There are several cost/benefit analyses of this on the 'net, such as this one. Estimates of algae-biodiesel yield range from 10,000 to 20,000 US gal/acre/year. Soy-diesel has a lower yield, but has some other economically beneficial by-products. Biodiesel is the most promising energy technology I have seen to date. Compare biodiesel to ethanol -- the producers of ethanol find it more economical to burn fossil fuels in ethanol production than the ethanol -- DOH! With the current price of dinofuel around $3/gal, biodiesel is also suddenly cost-competitive, and for about $3000, you can buy a home biodiesel production facility that can manufacture 40 gallons/week at a cost of about 50 cents per gallon plus whatever you have to pay for the oil, and about 2 hours/week in ongoing labor.

  18. Re:Biodiesel Yield Per Land Area by jackbird · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, filling a 15 gallon tank on two cars weekly for a year = 1560 gallons. So at 5000 gallons per acre per year, if all the open space of a large half-acre suburban lot were devoted to your personal sewage farm, you could just squeak by. Plus you'd save on home security bills, what with the giant moat of fecal slime surrounding your house. And you'd reduce tension with the neighbors, because you'd welcome your neighbor's dog crapping in your yard.

  19. HEMP for bio-diesel by Anon-Admin · · Score: 3, Informative

    I still think that HEMP is the way to go.

    From 1 acre of hemp you can produce

    1300 gal of bio diesel
    The equivalent amount of paper as 10 acre's of trees
    The equivalent of 5 acres of cotton in cloth.
    Hemp Seed flower (For cake, bread, etc)
    and
    Pulp products that can replace cardboard and many plastic products.

    This is from the different parts of the plant. That means that you get ALL of them at the same time. Not just growing corn for fuel and throw away the rest.

  20. Pig Diesel is much better. by ScrewTivo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Can't beleive this got accepted when my submission yesterday got rejected. here it is Note: 3.5/gal/day of Diesel from 1 Pig!
     
    Once it is rejected you can't recall it, that is not good. But here is the link: UI researcher makes crude oil from pig manure

  21. Solving the Obesity and Energy Crises by Ranger · · Score: 3, Funny
    You can produce bio-diesel from a vast diversity of lifeforms as long as they contain lipids

    Humans contain lipids.
    So they'll start putting liposuction centers next to a biodiesel refinery?

    This could solve the obesity crisis and energy crisis at the same time! Instead of driving around on your fat ass, you'll be driving around on your ass fat! So how much of this untapped resource is there? Let's see:

    • How many obese people are there in America?
    • What is the average weight of extra fat that people have?
    • Multipy the two numbers together we get the number of pounds of fat.
    • How many pounds of fat can we safely extract via liposuction per person per year?
    • Then we get the number of convertable pounds of fat per year.
    • How many pounds of fat does it take to produce one gallon of biodiesel?
    • Multiply that gallons per pound with the number of pounds available and we get the number of gallons of lipodiesel per year.

    Should Middle East cut off the tap, it will become the patriotic duty of every overweight person to donate their fat for biodiesel production. We'll no longer have an obesity crisis. We'll have a Strategic Lipid Reserve.
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