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Favorite Film Scientists?
theodp asks: "From Rotwang in Fritz Lang's Metropolis to Wallace the Engineer in last year's Curse of the Were-Rabbit, Slate notes that scientists have long been a staple of the movies. So who are some of the more memorable scientist characters from your movie-going?"
..Cristopher Lloyd as Dr. Emmett Brown in the Back to the Future trilogy.
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The guy from Back to the Future without a doubt. They can safely archive this discussion right now, I think.
"I thought Christmush only comesh onesh a yeaar." Oh wait. That's the wrong James Bond.
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Dr. Strangelove of course
Dr Forrester.
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Doc Brown:
"If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits eighty-eight miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit."
Let's hear another scientist top that quote.
A: Q.
Not only was he sexier than Bond, he was the inventor of all the cool gadgets we saw in the movies.
Tom Cruise... oh wait... Scientist. Nevermind.
Jeff Goldblum, no contest.
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Of course, the real heros are engineers.
.. paranoid crackpot leftover from the days of Amiga.
Martial artist, particle physicist, brilliant neurosurgeon, and hard rockin' pop star!
P.S. Yeah, I replied to my own comment about my other fave, hey, I love these characters : )
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Immediately coming to mind is Dr. Carrington, the misguided scientist in the 1951 version of "The Thing." (AKA The Thing From Another World).
He was the prototype for the scientist who, in the face of mortal danger, insists -- "Don't harm it! It is of a higher intelligence than us! We must REASON with it!" Then gets skewered/dismembered/eaten/all of the above.
- Alaska Jack
I'd also like to suggest Val Kilmer's Chris Knight in Real Genius.
Dr Frankenstein
/Cue Gene Wilder
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Dr Strangelove, of course. Although he was more of a 'political' scientist... "Mein Furher! I can walk!"
Dr Buckaroo Banzai and his arch nemesis Dr Emilio Lizardo
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Dr. Peter Venkman
Dr. Raymond Stantz
Dr. Egon Spengler
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Or another one of my faves: "Don't tug on that. You never know what it might be attached to."
B. Banzai
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Dr Bunsen's assistant. They must have appeared in at least one of the muppet movies.
Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
Dr. Eleanor Arroway from Contact.
Actual user of the scientific method and all-around skeptic.
Definitely Kate Beckinsale as the brilliant nymphomaniac physicist who can't willingly keep her clothes on in... oh wait, that's my fantasy ... Probably make one hell of a movie though.
Okay then, I guess it's gotta be Doctor Emmett Brown and his sidekick, Dr. Delorian.
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Why? For one of my favorite lines in all of film: "Sorry, Venkman, I'm terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought."
See, like a true scientist, even when a epic global disaster is about to take place in front of him and his death is imminent, he says something coherent and explanatory. He even apologizes!
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Doctor Who all the way. "Reverse the polarity" is one of the iconic phrases of a generation of SF fans.
Inventions have long since reached their limit, and I see no hope for further development.-- Frontinus, 1st cent. AD
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Samantha Carter
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Mr. Spock, science officer of the USS Enterprise.
His objectivity, intellect, and curiosity made him the quintessential scientist.
(Okay, he's mostly a TV character, but he appeared in his share of movies.)
I know it's not the "favorite," but Gregory Peck's portrayal of Nazi Dr. Josef Mengele in The Boys From Brazil was a good portrayal of a nasty mad scientist in quite a disturbing film...
(It also has Sir Laurence Olivier as a Nazi hunter...)
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Favorite Mad Scientist?
Winner: Dr. Evil
Favorite Scientist?
Winner: Einstein
Dr. Gaius Baltar from the new BSG has rapidly become a favorite of mine. He's such a weasel and so much fun (and exhausting) to watch!
The problem with the way scientists are depicted in movies is that they are Hollywood stereotypes. They know little or nothing about what science really is. An exception is Dr. Ellie Arroway (Jodie Foster) in Contact. I cannot think of any other movies that depict scientists as people who love science - real science, not the glamorous or nefarious hobby that it is for Hollywood.
This is one of my favorite engineer exchanges in movies, from "No Way Out," 1987, with Kevin Costner, Gene Hackman, and Sean Young. A computer is crunching away at a bad photograph which when enhanced will incorrectly incriminate Costner in the death of Sean Young's character. He estimates that he has only a few hours to find the true killer before the photo is legible. The following exchange takes place. (Compare and contrast this with absolutely every other movie and TV show in which a photograph can be zoomed indefinitely by simply clicking on the interesting part, or can be immediately enhanced by the geek of the day with only a few key strokes (never a mouse) upon directions from a superior such as, "Can you make it clearer?")
- What do you want me to do?
- Slow up the resolution on that picture.
I need more time, Sam. I need more time to get this straightened out.
That's what I need.
I'm not satisfied with the way this is coming up. The eigenvalue is off.
Looks all right to me.
We're pulling away from our reference information. Program a Fourier transform.
- That seems like a waste of time.
- Just do what I want, OK?
Peter Sellers in Kubrik's dr. Strangelove.
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+1
Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you *keep* it a *secret*! Why didn't you tell the world, EH?
Best Mad scientist ever, and the funniest, too!
"To those who are overly cautious, everything is impossible. "
The creator of the replicants was one of the most fascinating movie scientists ever shown on the bigscreen. He was utterly amoral and less human than his ceations.
first place for me would be:
Dr. Daniel P. Schreber
(played by Keifer Sutherland in Dark City)
Honorable mentions would be:
Dr. Evil & Dr. Stranglove
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"This is a hobo suit, darling. You can't be seen in this. I won't allow it. "
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They were about to reveal it to the world. You don't want to tell the world that you PLAN on making one, as then the other countries will bomb you back to the stone age to make sure you don't make it.
I'll never make that mistake again, reading the experts' opinions. - Feynman
Far and away Dr. Bunsen.
Gyro Gearloose (Ok, he's an engineer, so what?)
The Brain
Lt. Col. Samantha Carter (they will do another Stargate movie, right?)
Dr. Frank-N-Furter
And purely for looks, Dr. Christmas Jones
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Hell, you could probably take half a dozen other quotes from The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension.
Of course, Real Genius had some great lines too.
Not Dr. Frank-n-furter? Or the rival scientist Dr. Scott?
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The professor from Gilligan's Island. When I was a kid, that's what a scientist was like.
He knew nearly everything except how to get them off the island. He was a social misfit, still everyone respected him because of his high intelligence.
It's not like he had a choice. What women weren't younger than him? He's a bloody timelord!
For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled - R Feynman
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Alec Guinness as a geeky scientist who invents something that will ruin several industries and upset many worker's lives. Like many Scientists is is more concerned with the creation and problems to to be solved rather than the possible effects on society.
Runners up -the Kids in the Hall as scientists in Brain Candy
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From the Cartoon World I would have to say it's a 4-way tie between:
Professor Membrane (Invader Zim)
Doctor Venture (Venture Bros)
Dexter (Dexter's Laboratory)
Professor Utonium (PowerPuff girls)
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Hump? What hump?
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Wow! What knockers!
So which brain did you get?
Abby.
Abby who?
Abby normal.
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty.
Ben
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Richard Dreyfuss as Matt Hooper; one of the most realistic scientists I've seen portrayed in film.
"I keep hoping for an epiphany... but all I seem to get are conundrums."
You couldn't meet a more lovable Mutually Assured Destructionist, or closet Nazi really, even if you tried. I'm sure he got along famously with everyone in the underground caves, repopulating the species.
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You can pick which one, too. The War of the Worlds one or the MST3K one. Both rock.
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Jeff Goldblum is my favorite movie psychic, not scientist. Although I would like to hire his Independence Day character to be in charge of our Mac installers at work.
As far as movie scientists are concerned, I always liked that group of scientists in Brainstorm (which I haven't seen in a long time). I've worked in real labs of several different sorts, and those guys still look like the real deal. Unlike most Hollywood "science" movies, which force their scientist characters into Frankenstein-inspired cliches, there were a few common mistakes that Brainstorm avoided with its scientist characters:
- No one scientist who works in isolation. This was a team of at least 3 scientists, like you'd find in real life. The two team leads who were the primary researchers shared credit equally as far as the film was concerned. The project was their baby.
- No "mad" scientist. Although one of them was played by Christopher Walken. Louise Fletcher's character I think was better written. She was the one who smoked if I'm remembering correctly. Movie scientists are usually too smart to smoke. They've done research or something and found that it's bad for you.
- Intense personal relationships. Walken's character was having marital problems. That's very strange for a movie scientist, who usually remains single to avoid confusing audiences who do not view scientists are normal human beings. (If he has any family members at all, their purpose in the script is to be props- they will be in close proximity to a volcano or bomb or something, so as to establish that the amoral movie scientist has "something to care about".) Not only does this guy use his machine to rejuvenate his marriage and make things better between him and his wife, people in the lab immediately discover the new technology's potential for porn. Good call on that one!
- Problems with upper management. They had a boss who was trying to militarize their whole project, and IIRC they had to cooperate to keep their funding. Most "movie scientists" either require no visible source of funding, or can just rely on their own personal wealth to buy all the Jacob's ladders and other mad-looking items they need for their lab. (Or they have the scientist running an entire company, like Eldon Tyrell. As a CEO scientist, Tyrell naturally has plenty of time to spend with local city policemen as they give Voight-Kampff tests to his employees.) As far as militarization of scientific work is concerned, most movie scientists are amoral and don't care. In the movies, scientists are completely amoral unless they are saving the world that day- and they're probably only doing it because their wife or kid is too close to a volcano or bomb.
Having said all that, I have to admit that in general the characters in Brainstorm are not very well developed because the movie is trying too hard to impress you with its technology. In 1983 it looked pretty impressive- these people had a system where you could dial in over an acoustic modem and have a tape robot play terabits of personal experience directly into your head! As far as text went, their terminal software looked like the setup I had in 1983. But even for 1983 they made reasonable guesses. I always remember that scene where they finally demo the technology and have some sort of hub with a dozen ribbon cables coming out of it connected to everyone's heads.
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... Even the Krell must have evolved from that beginning! ... All well and good, young man, except for one obvious fallacy!"
"Id, id, id, id, id! It's an obsolete term, I'm afraid, once used to describe the elementary basis of the subconscious mind
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Anyone?
Seriously? *sigh* (I'm too damn old...) Peter Sellars
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Erm. Peter Sellers.... Love the irony of someone who can't spell an actors name picking up a "youngster" who just can't remember it. You may be "too damn old" but you're probably also old enough to know better, smart arse
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I have always liked that Christopher Walken used his oddness to play a good guy who is odd because he's a genius, and he actually gets it right. The scene etched on my memory is where Walken is talking about what he's learned about the government black mirror program and says "They've taken my work ... and made it into something bad!" That could have been a Plan 9 groaner for sure, but Walken delivers it with the crestfallen betrayed earnestness that we know is the end result when you spend twenty years in a lab.
The technology is painfully dated, but they tried hard and it's educational to see how badly they missed some of the marks when you compare reality with what they projected. Kinda makes you wonder where our future will really lead.
Brainstorm also had to fight for its life after Natalie Wood died just to get finished and released (the studio wanted the no-completion insurance money baaaaad) and its director never worked again (which in turn killed John Varley's Millennium as it was originally conceived, directly resulting in the craptacular flick it eventually became with Cheryl Ladd).
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I don't know how common it is to use audio cues for data presentation, but there's an interesting example of it here. (Cassini/Huygens probe's descent to Titan.)
KLAATU: "Bobby -- who's the greatest man in America today?"
BOBBY (puzzling it over): Gee -- I don't know... The space man, I guess."
KLAATU (secretly amused): "I was speaking of earth men. I meant the greatest philosopher -- the greatest thinker."
B0BBY: "You mean the smartest man in the whole world?"
KLAATU: "Yes -- that would do nicely."
BOBBY (after a moments thought): "Well -- Professor Barnhardt, I guess. He's the greatest scientist in the world.
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Chris Knight (Val Kilmer) from "Real Genius".
Too often, smart people are portraied as humorless drones, when a good sense of humor is usually a mark of intelligence.
"How perfectly Goddamn delightful it all is, to be sure" Charles Crumb
OK, so the fluff says she's a medical doctor, not a PhD. But while she wasn't a practicing researcher, she did approach her unusual job with a scientific mind, balancing Mulder's "willingness to believe" with a constant demand for evidence and scientific rigor. She also gets points for being spiritual (Catholic) but not mixing it up with her scientific viewpoint of the world.
Also, she could apparently do a Southern blot in about 7 hours, when it take us mere mortals 2 days... (though that was in the X-Files TV show, not the movie)
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That's OK, I like the irony of someone who can't spell "actor's" picking on an old guy picking on a young guy for not being able to spell. It's Friday night and I'm so alone....
And many great quotes from the TV serial:
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
I've always had a soft spot for the mad/obsessed scientist, and Jeffery Combs does a fantastic job as Herbert West in the Reanimiator films. Aside from being devoted enough to his work to kill (and reanimate) obstacles, he just can't pass up a "what if" experiment when it presents itself. From the very beginning, his curiosity is what killed the cat, reanimated it, and killed it again.
Dr. Rodney McKay
I know it's not a film, but that doesn't make him any less of an incredible role model!
"How's it coming, Rodney?"
"Slower than I expected, but faster than humanly possible."
Plus it has some great one-liners http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089886/quotes One of my favorite 80's flicks.
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both movies are rather contemporary, but I just loved both Val Kilmer as "Chris Knight" in "Real Genius" and Christopher Lloyed as Emmett Brown from "Back to the future".
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Bill Murray from ghostbusters. Favorite line.
"Back off man, I'm a scientist"
evil is as evil does
All those scientists were real scientists!
That movie was about as close as you can get. They all had flaws, they all had to work together to solve the problem, they all were only as strong as their weakest link, and they were stupified for the entire movie because what they were studying was completely alien to them.
Go back and look at this movie. It's a true classic.
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
I mean practically the whole script is mad scientist-y, a few of the classics...
Winston Zeddemore: Hey, wait a minute. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hold it. Now, are we actually gonna go before a federal judge, and tell him that some moldy Babylonian God is going to drop in on Central Park West, and start tearing up the city?
Dr. Egon Spengler: Sumerian, not Babylonian.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Yeah. Big difference.
Winston Zeddemore: No offense, guys, but I've gotta get my own lawyer.
Dr Ray Stantz: You know, it just occurred to me that we really haven't had a successful test of this equipment.
Dr. Egon Spengler: I blame myself.
Dr. Peter Venkman: So do I.
Dr Ray Stantz: Well, no sense in worrying about it now.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Why worry? Each one of us is carrying an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back.
Dana Barrett: You know, you don't act like a scientist.
Dr. Peter Venkman: They're usually pretty stiff.
Dana Barrett: You're more like a game show host.
Dana Barrett: Are you the Keymaster?
Dr. Peter Venkman: Not that I know of.
[She slams the door in his face. Venkman knocks again]
Dana Barrett: Are you the Keymaster?
Dr. Peter Venkman: Yes. Actually I'm a friend of his, he asked me to meet him here.
Dr. Peter Venkman: What do you think, Egon?
Dr. Egon Spengler: I think this building should be condemned. There's serious metal fatigue in all the load-bearing members, the wiring is substandard, it's completely inadequate for our power needs, and the neighborhood is like a demilitarized zone.
Dr Ray Stantz: Hey. Does this pole still work?
[slides down a fireman's pole]
Dr Ray Stantz: Wow. This place is great. When can we move in? You gotta try this pole. I'm gonna get my stuff. Hey. We should stay here. Tonight. Sleep here. You know, to try it out.
[Venkman looks at Spengler. Spengler slowly shakes his head. Venkman turns to the real estate agent]
Dr. Peter Venkman: I think we'll take it.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Ray has gone bye-bye, Egon... what've you got left?
Dr. Egon Spengler: Sorry, Venkman, I'm terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought.
Dr. Egon Spengler: There's something very important I forgot to tell you.
Dr. Peter Venkman: What?
Dr. Egon Spengler: Don't cross the streams.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Why?
Dr. Egon Spengler: It would be bad.
Dr. Peter Venkman: I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad?"
Dr. Egon Spengler: Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
Dr Ray Stantz: Total protonic reversal.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Right. That's bad. Okay. All right. Important safety tip. Thanks, Egon.
Dr. Egon Spengler: Oh good, you're here!
Dr. Peter Venkman: Yeah, what have you got?
Dr. Egon Spengler: This is big, Peter, this is very big. There is definitely something here.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Egon, this reminds me of the time you tried to drill a hole through your head. Remember that one?
Dr. Egon Spengler: That would have worked if you hadn't stopped me.
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Professor Eddie Jessup, portrayed by William Hurt in Ken Russell's "Altered States".
For those of you who haven't seen it, Jessup is a researcher at a Boston university who obtains some extremely powerful hallucinogens from southern Mexico and does massive doses while inside a sensory deprivation tank, when seven shades of hell breaks loose, with a strong whiff of Jeckyl and an australopithecine Hyde. Plus, the guy gets some pretty decent nooky throughout the film, including one of his super-hot students, so bonus points for that.
I'm also a bit partial to Doctor/Botanist Stephen Maturin, played by Paul Bettany in "Master and Commander", who almost beat Darwin to the punch by some 20 or 30 years.
Finally, psychologist Kris Kelvin in Andrei Tarkovsky's 1972 epic "Solaris", is definitely up there with the greats.
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Yep, that's what my PhD is like. At least once a week the janitor comes in to empty the trashcan in my closet/lab, and I think to myself what a wonderful social environment I get to work in as a scientist!
No "mad" scientistYou obviously have never had a PhD supervisor.
Intense personal relationships... That's very strange for a movie scientist, who usually remains single to avoid confusing audiences who do not view scientists are normal human beings.As opposed to real-life scientists, who remain single because of their total lack of socialization.
Problems with upper managementOf course, real-world scientists rarely stop fighting among themselves long enough to develop meaningful problems with outsiders.
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