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Skype Offering SkypeOut Service for Free

Skudd writes "In an effort to boost new customer acquisition, Skype has begun offering its 'SkypeOut' service for free. The free service is slated to last until December 31, 2006." From the article: "While the SkypeOut service will allow free calling to regular phones, the company will continue to charge people to get calls using a service it calls SkypeIn, which costs about $38 for an unlimited 12-month subscription. Consumers can get the service for three months for about $12.80."

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  1. Not For Everyone by Red+Pointy+Tail · · Score: 4, Informative

    Note to submitters/editors: Not everyone lives in US/Canada.

    1. Re:Not For Everyone by Cheapy · · Score: 3, Funny

      You mean those other lands outside of North America aren't just for tourists?

      Whoa...I'm gonna need to sit down after learning this...

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    2. Re:Not For Everyone by Guspaz · · Score: 3, Informative

      Incorrect. It's only free from within the US and Canada (not just the US), TO within the US and Canada. For example, sitting in Montreal, I can call Dallas for free, or I can call Toronto for free, or somebody in LA can call me for free.

    3. Re:Not For Everyone by DAldredge · · Score: 3, Insightful

      http://slashdot.org/faq/editorial.shtml#ed850

      Slashdot seems to be very U.S.-centric. Do you have any plans to be more international in your scope?

      Slashdot is U.S.-centric. We readily admit this, and really don't see it as a problem. Slashdot is run by Americans, after all, and the vast majority of our readership is in the U.S. We're certainly not opposed to doing more international stories, but we don't have any formal plans for making that happen. All we can really tell you is that if you're outside the U.S. and you have news, submit it, and if it looks interesting, we'll post it.

      It is worth noting that there is a Japanese Slashdot run by VA Japan. While we helped them a little in their early days, they essentially run their own content without any real involvement from us... none of us can read Kanji! There are currently no plans to do other language or nation specific Slashdot sites.

      Answered by: CmdrTaco
      Last Modified: 10/3/04

    4. Re:Not For Everyone by asavage · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Based on the last location poll, only around 50% are from North America. As that includes Canadians and Mexicans, there are more non-Americans then Americans. It is of course run by Americans and they can do whatever they want.

    5. Re:Not For Everyone by denominateur · · Score: 3, Funny

      JOURNALISM is not what this site is famous for :)

    6. Re:Not For Everyone by orasio · · Score: 3, Funny

      And people from the US don't like to vote. And votes from Florida are very difficult to count. So results are very skewed.

  2. Re:RogersCustomers, forget Rogers Home Phone by BRUTICUS · · Score: 3, Informative

    Check this site out for other gripes concerning rogers.
    Telecom service companies need to go down. Communication companies should be charging what the service is WORTH.

    http://www.ihaterogers.ca/

  3. Looking Forward To... by SlashdotOgre · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm looking forward to calling my current land line provider, AT&T, and tell them I'm switching because of their choice to hand over phone records to the NSA. I'm sure VoIP won't be much more secure, but I hope if enough people do this they get the message.

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    1. Re:Looking Forward To... by tapo · · Score: 4, Informative

      By U.S. law, even a disconnected phone line is able to dial 911.

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    2. Re:Looking Forward To... by seinman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Last I checked, cell phones run on batteries. You know, the whole portability thing.

    3. Re:Looking Forward To... by Baddas · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, most cell towers are on independent power backup. They often have a UPS with an on-site generator.

      Mind you, that's not ALL of them, but enough that the network doesn't go down entirely in disasters.

  4. Only to the US and Canada... by NemosomeN · · Score: 3, Informative

    One of Skype's biggest perks is cheap international calling. Submitter sucks, should have put that in the summary. It's in the fucking article's title, fps.

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  5. New partnership? Something else? by Sosarian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Did Skype suddenly form a new partnership with someone to handle these calls?

    Or is this some sort of grab for customers so that they can have more P2P nodes?

    Just some initial thoughts.

  6. The AOL of VOIP by Zemran · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Skype is the AOL of VOIP and they are desperate to get everyone into their camp before people realise that they can have the world if they stay outside of that camp. True VOIP offers you the same freedom that the real internet offers those that are/were not AOL subscribers. I have a dial in line for free on VOIP and I can dial out for free already. I can call many countries for free. I do not need a restricted cobbled service just because it has a good marketing department.

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    1. Re:The AOL of VOIP by Zemran · · Score: 5, Informative

      For my UK incoming number I use www.sipgate.com
      For my US incoming number I use www.sipphone.com

      For outgoing calls I use www.voipbuster.com (they also offer an incoming number but I already had one)
      www.voipcheap.com or www.voipcheap.co.uk (same stuff really).

      I have a Sipura ATA so I do not even need to have my computer turned on to make or recieve calls. You can get other ATAs and I do not think the Sipura is the best but I bought it 3 years ago when it was.

      BTW I live in northern Thailand and with this I can call and chat to my friends as much as I like.

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  7. Huh. by AWhiteFlame · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just tried calling my cell phone on it from my old Powerbook G4 Ti @ 500 Mhz with OS X Tiger. Works -excellently-. No activation or anything needed to my account. Downloaded latest version, ran it, and it worked right "out of the box".

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  8. This offer is valid until..... by allaunjsilverfox2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    December 31, 2006. After that, They are unsure of what they are going to do. I remember a company called dialpad years ago that did something similar, except in reverse, they started out giving unlimited free calling to anyone. Then they cut it down to 10 minutes, 5 minutes, then 1 minute and then they were forced to shut down because no one would subscribe. I'm sure this isn't the case with Skype but given they're past record I'm not sure this is a good idea.

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  9. Re:activation by BewireNomali · · Score: 3, Informative

    no. I didn't have to.

    I tested it by creating a new UID. The first two times I tried calling a friend's mobile phone, I got error messages. The third time and every time after was smooth sailing. The sound isn't the best, not cell phone quality, but it works. The number showed up as "000123456" on the recipient's phone, so its usefulness is limited; those who screen calls would likely not pick up, and since you can't get incoming on it without upgrading - well.

    If you have an outgoing number, I'm sure you can solve this issue by being issued an incoming number. IMO, it seems to be a loss leader of sorts, to get folks to upgrade to paid service.

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  10. This is useless. by natrius · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Almost everyone who has a cell phone has free domestic long distance. This sounds like an amazing offer, but it's giving people nothing they didn't have before. It might get a few more people to actually try Skype, but the practical uses of this offer are almost nonexistent.

  11. Fascinating to me how the economics have ended up by CFD339 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I do a lot of work with Asterisk and have investigated pricing on inbound and outbound rates to such an extent that it would be considered obsessive.

    With most VoIP, inbound call phone numbers are at least as expensive to get as outbound when you get to any kind of volume. I'm not talking about 1 line for a few bucks, or a few test lines at fixed cost, but the ability to just recieve a bunch of calls at once on a phone number. It comes down to about $18 (US) for the ability to recieve each concurrent inbound call. You can get unlimited at a penny or two per minute per call, but that ends up being more expensive if you do good pooling with a fixed number of lines. Outbound can be as little as half that.

    Where is the cost in all this? The cost is the connection to the copper based system. At some point, somewhere, someone has to get paid for a link to that big addressing system.

    The sick part is, most of the big telcos are doing voip any way, and their ability to hold onto that master address space is the key last item for them to hold the power to charge what they do. ENID (including free systems) are functional -- and can work just like DNS -- but the providers wont use it.

    There's a system (ENID based, I believe) that would allow any number you dial from your regular phone or cell phone to be checked against a registry, and if a voip address is listed for it, the telco could bypass the entire infrastructure and route the call directly to the person you called over voip. So if I registered a voip address to my phone number (which I have done) and you called me from say, Verizon Wireless, they could route the call to me without going over a single bit of big telco as anything other than VoIP. No telco switching involved. It would bypass my per-minute inbound costs entirely other than my internet connection.

    It works if you call from a voip phone that knows about the registry (Asterisk based systems, for example can do this). The telcos and cell companies don't do it. Why not? As a whole, they make their money by controlling that master address -- the phone number.

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  12. Skype & Security by Robotech_Master · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just to note, there are a few security concerns about Skype, its ownership by eBay, and potential security holes within the Skype network. Be aware of what you're using when you're using it.

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  13. Nothing new but really nice anyway! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.voipbuster.com/
    http://www.sipdiscount.com/
    http://www.voipcheap.com/
    voipdiscount.com
    voipstunt.com ...

    gives... well... around 40 countries free! (well... you pay 10euros for 2 or 3 months and you can call a lot of countries for 0 cent/min or 1 cent/min)

    I use it a lot (with sjphone) and for this price... this is unbeatable! But for a good VOIP, you need a good High Speed Internet Access! A delay of 1 or 2 seconds and cause a hang up before you can even try to say "hello" ;-)

    sip compatible with any hardware SIP or softphone like sjPhone (mac, pc, linux, pda...)

    sip server: sip.voipbuster.com (port 5060)
    domain: voipbuster.com
    stun server: stun.voipbuster.com

    sip server: sip1.sipdiscount.com (port 5060)
    domain: sipdiscount.com
    stun server: stun.sipdiscount.com

    etc ;-)

  14. Some Hidden Benefits by JackRazz · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've been using Skype for a couple of months with a mic/headset combo and it has been surprisingly good. One of the benefits of Skype is that you can make conference calls. This is something I've never done at home with a landline. I had $9 Skype-Out left and don't know how I'm gonna use it up now(-:

  15. For those having problems... by Yaztromo · · Score: 3, Informative

    I was able to test the free SkypeOut by calling my home phone from my PowerBook, but not without some difficulty. At first it wouldn't dial the number at all -- apparently you need to use a bit of a special incantation to get it to dial.

    On my first attempt, I tried to do a ten digit dial (xxx-xxx-xxxx), but it wouldn't let me dial out. So I next tried adding a 1 in front of the number (1-xxx-xxx-xxxx), but again, no-go.

    The trick? You must put a plus sign ('+') in front of the 1 (that is, dial "+1-xxx-xxx-xxxx"). Then it works just fine. But otherwise, it doesn't work at all -- the call button will be completely disabled.

    I wonder however if this won't be ripe for abuse. All Skype calls show up as being from 000-012-3456, and I just know there are some asshats out there who are going to start using this for obscene phone calls, or other negative abuses of the system.

    Anyhow, if you can't get your version of Skype to work, try it with the + symbol in front of the 1. On the latest Mac version at least, this is the only way it will work correctly.

    Yaz.