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Nintendo Confirms Wii on GC Housing at E3

kukyfrope writes "Nintendo's PR Manager, Matt Atwood, has confirmed accusations that Wii demo stations at E3 were not running inside the Wii case and instead were running inside Gamecube housing using Wii-spec hardware. 'The Wii hardware we exhibited at E3 2006 was made specifically for the E3 show and is not the final mass-production version. Some of this hardware was cased in Nintendo GameCube housing.'" Update: 05/19 21:08 GMT by Z : Changed 'hardware' to 'housing' in title.

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  1. Oh well, I guess that changes everything by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I guess I'm not going to buy a Wii now, because they housed the hardware for the demo inside a GameCube.

    Come on Sony, you can poison the well better than that.

    1. Re:Oh well, I guess that changes everything by exley · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While I agree with the parent's sentiment and those in other posts about this story being irrelevant, is there any evidence that Sony was behind this? If not, then the Sony bashing has officially gotten out of hand, and the parent has no business being modded 'Insightful'. You can count me in with the crowd that's not happy with Sony these days, but c'mon. There are plenty of solid things that we can shit all over Sony for, but the knee-jerk accusations aren't gonna cut it. Or at least, they shouldn't. I must be new here.

    2. Re:Oh well, I guess that changes everything by Reapman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No doubt... not only that, but wasn't there a fair amount of PS3 bashing because the PS3 final design wasn't completed? Regardless what the Wii looks like i'll be buying it.

    3. Re:Oh well, I guess that changes everything by Firehed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Also consider that Sony wasn't using actual PS3 hardware, IIRC. This Wii/GC thing was just more of confused hardware that put on the wrong case that morning. Plus Nintendo was pretty darned quick to admit and explain, rather than cover things up.

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  2. uh, so? by bunions · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do I not get it? Why would anyone care what case they were in?

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    1. Re:uh, so? by cosmotron · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's just something to try to stir up the water...

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    2. Re:uh, so? by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Sony FUD machine does.

    3. Re:uh, so? by AudioEfex · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why is this being talked about? Because someone at MS or Sony had their panties in a wad because a) virtually all the mainstream media is talking about from E3 is the Wii, b) the enormously positive reaction to the Wii by the gaming "press", and c) both MS and Sony spokespeople have been heavily quoted as saying that in addition to their respective console, consumers will likely want a Wii as well, so they thought this would cause some minor scandal.

      In this case, it's too little, and too late, for character assasination.

      This is why this will blow away into the nothingness; it's not a big deal to begin with, and it's even less of a deal because of the qualified success the Wii showing at E3 was. Just shows how scared they are because their "hardcore I want 32 buttons to mash in a game that takes 10 hours to learn" crowd is getting smaller by the generation, yet Wii is set to appeal to non-gamers, former-gamers, and existing-gamers is a virtually unlimited potential audience.

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    4. Re:uh, so? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Yeah, well, it's not like Sony ran all their PS3 demos off of rack-mounted PCs. Or recently faked a Blu-Ray demo by purposely recompressing the DVD comparison movie to make Blu-Ray look better. I mean, Nintendo might have put actual prototype hardware into purple boxes instead of white ones! Think of the scandal!

      Oh, wait, it's just another feeble attempt by some Sony fanboy to pretend that the PS3 has any chance of being relevant this time next year.

    5. Re:uh, so? by Mistshadow2k4 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't get it either. How is this even a news story? (Note I'm not blaimg Zonk for posting it, rather whoever wrote it and thought this mattered even slightly.) Hell, I don't care if they use a GameCube housing for the final product, let alone the demo. I wouldn't even care if the Wii housing was as butt-ugly as my 9th grade English teacher, what I care about is how well the system works and what games will run on it.

      It makes me wonder if the author didn't write this up in the hope that it would be misinterpreted and make Nintendo look bad, while retaining some journalistic integrity. Hmmm, maybe I do get it after all.

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  3. Interesting... by revlayle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...but not unexpected for a 5-to-6-months-before release demo.

    It showcased what they wanted it to do - they could have cased in hardened dog shit for all I personally would have cared :)

  4. Accusations? by Xxanmorph · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That makes it sound like they were doing something wrong. Who cares what case it was in if the hardware was the real deal?

    1. Re:Accusations? by Kabuthunk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As far as I'm understanding, all of the internals... you know, the hardest part by an insurmountable amount... appears to have been complete. They just need to drop it into a new case. Given they have 5+ months to do that, they're probably not too worried.

      They have a half-year to make a plastic box to put around the internals. Not exactly brain surgery compared to designing the... y'know... internals. If it were 100% complete for E3, they could be releasing it extraordinarily shortly afterwards.

      Hell, the best case scenario is that the only thing not completed is the case. If there were massive amounts of work to do on the processor or controllers, then they might be screwed. This amount of incomplete is minimal at best.

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  5. So what... by frosty_tsm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Had this not been the case, then either the GCN is forward compatible or that there'd be Wii controller kits for the GCN.

    I mean, it's not like someone was playing it for a while, then looked down and saw a GCN and said "Eeewww, I've been playing on a previous-gen console."

  6. We have a right to be dubious by L-Train8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There seems to be accusations of "faking it" at every E3. I guess the industry has brought it on itself, showing stuff like the supposed Madden for Xbox 360 screen shots that were much better than the actual game when it shipped. This stuff has been going on for years and it's no wonder that audiences are wary of being duped by faked demos.

    But 6 months before the console hits the shelves, the only hardware that exists is in prototype versions. It is not suprising that the floor models were put together with duct tape, GameCube cases and whatever else they had on-hand. I would be suprised if the actual Wii games don't look better than what Nintendo had on display at this years E3, as developers have more time to work on games and get them polished.

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  7. So what? by RoffleTheWaffle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't care if the hardware was housed inside a shoebox. It came, it saw, it kicked some ass. Whatever case it came in doesn't mean shit.

    On a related note, a shoebox Wii would be pretty cool.

  8. odd.... by moosesocks · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's a really odd choice for nintendo, given the fact that the gamecube is a fairly 'customized' piece of hardware (3 boards, funky controller ports, etc) crammed into a REALLY tight space.

    I would have found it much more likely for them to have been put in some generic grey box or something like that for E3........

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    1. Re:odd.... by LackThereof · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, the Wii will be significantly smaller than the Gamecube - I believe they said it would be about the size of two DVD cases stacked together.

      If they couldn't fit something which is supposed to be that small in a GCN case at this stage of development, they would seriously have something to worry about.

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  9. Good Thing by Mr.Ziggy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not having the production plastic case ready is not a bad thing.

    But, being able to stuff the prototype electronics in the gamecube case is a Good Thing:

    The Wii will most likely not be Hot, Loud (fans), or obnoxiously large and obtrusive like other consoles.

  10. Re:GBA SP, DS lite, WiiCube? by Stuart+Gibson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But the US SNES was ugly beyond sin. The one we have in the UK is a lovely piece of kit, same shape as the Japanese one I think and the controller buttons are four different colours instead of the purple and lilac you lot in the colonies got.

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  11. Missing the point by cookd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It looks like everybody is missing the point.

    Accusation: Nintendo doesn't have their Wii hardware ready and is just running the demos on GameCube hardware with a new controller plugged in.

    Fact: Nintendo doesn't have their Wii hardware ready and is just running the demos on GameCube hardware that has been upgraded to Wii specs with a new controller plugged in.

    Difference: Accusation is correct: Nintendo doesn't have final hardware ready yet (no biggie). Accusation is incorrect: Nintendo is just using GameCube hardware for demos and dev kits and hasn't gotten the updated hardware story figured out yet (this would be scary).

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  12. Re:Misleading subject: Disagrees with summary, eve by Iffy+Bonzoolie · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Even after the update, this is an extremely confusing headline. How about not abbreviating Game Cube to GC? And I believe the corrent preposition would be "in" or "inside" not "on". "Housing?" Are we talking about Habitat for Humanity? Just because the article uses it doesn't mean we have to. How about "Case?" "Shell" would be better, too.

    Normally I don't care about this stuff, but this one annoyed the hell out of me for some reason.

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  13. Re:Misleading subject: Disagrees with summary, eve by cicatrix1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I guess it *should* be "in" instead of "on". However, "housing" is certainly a common technical term and I don't get that part of your rant.

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  14. What's the big fucking deal? by PhotoBoy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All the games companies show games on unfinished hardware, why is this even news? Remember last year the X360 demos were on dual CPU Macs with Radeon X800s until the hardware was finished. And at this year's E3 Sony demoed Gran Turismo HD on a PC! That's not even vaguely similar architecturally to the PS3!

    I saw an auction on eBay a while back for an early GameCube dev kit. The CPU clockspeed was listed as only half that of the final GameCube and the graphics hardware was missing a few pipelines. It was also bigger than the final hardware so it couldn't fit in the GC's case. Was demoing GameCube games on that at E3 also misleading?

    And what have we got this year? Wii hardware that's too big to fit in Wii cases, so they stuck it in a GC case. Even if Nintendo were just using GCs and there wasn't any Wii hardware in them, I don't think it's particularly important because a) the Wii isn't about graphical power and b) the GC is essentially a subset of the Wii's final spec. So it's the equivalent of working on a cut down Wii anyway, like the early GC dev kit I mentioned above was a cut down version of the final GC hardware.