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New Enterprise-Level Ubuntu Due This Week

daria42 writes "According to Ubuntu's official release schedule, the next version of its Linux distribution, code-named "Dapper Drake" is due to be released this week, June 1 to be precise. This landmark release will be supported for 5 years (previous versions were only supported for 18 months) and is being touted as ready for enterprise use." From the article: "Dapper Drake will be supported for three years for the desktop version and five years for servers, compared to 18 months for the current 5.10 'Breezy Badger' version. The code release will come after the development process was extended by six weeks in order to improve the reliability of the software."

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  1. Ubuntu dapper drake is cool by Rinzwind · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's the 1st Linux both my PC and my laptop accepted without a hitch during install or usage (past month or so). Bluetooth, Wireless connection, Printer HP PSC 2175 (with built-in scanner), wireless mouse (MX 7000), wireless keyboard, Multimedia keys and hibernate/resume all worked out of the box. Firefox as default browser is very nice. Ubuntu did what several redhat and suse installs didn't do: got me away from XP with a SMILE! *does happy dance*

    1. Re:Ubuntu dapper drake is cool by wallyhall · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yeah likewise. I'm on a Dell Inspirion 1150, totally seamless install and use. It's strange, I've actually had a hard time getting away from the terminal! (I've been using Linux for quite a while). Amazing distribution, really is. Excellent hardware support too (in my case, I know that it's all relative). Next major release is said to be more experimental / bleeding edge, XGL / NetworkManager etc. Honestly can't wait!

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  2. Re:Enterprise? not again! by wallyhall · · Score: 5, Informative

    Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong saying this!! I think you've misunderstood the term enterprise, in this contex. Ubuntu Dapper is 100% free, open source software. No propriety 'enterprise' ties (in that sense of the word). It's stable (like Debian Sarge), reliable and comes with everything you'd need, and it's gunna be supported for 5 years, much like RHEL does, which is VERY important to enterprises/businesses etc. I dunno about you, but I don't see how that can really be a bad thing?

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  3. Something is missing... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Funny

    You got 'Breezy Badger' and 'Dapper Drake', but where's 'Crazy Crapper'?

    1. Re:Something is missing... by Woy · · Score: 5, Funny

      "where's 'Crazy Crapper'?"

      We usually refer to it by its commercial name, Windows XP.

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    2. Re:Something is missing... by IANAAC · · Score: 5, Funny
      Jumping Jiraffe...?
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    3. Re:Something is missing... by Sporkinum · · Score: 4, Funny

      Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it's my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V.

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  4. With all due respect, how is this news? by gsasha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With all due respect to Dapper (and a well-deserved one, I'm running it right now and it works fantastically), how is this news? So it will be out in a week - it was known. Don't understand me wrong. The *NEWS* about it getting delayed was news. The *MORE OR LESS NEWS* about it on the release day is news. But this is just publishing a countdown - what will be next? 5 days to Dapper, 4 days to Dapper, ... articles? And again, this is a very fine Linux distro, which deserves a lot of coverage... but come on!

  5. VMWare Server Beta, RAID install... by fnord_uk · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ah. XP. In case you're missing it, I've just installed the free VmWare Server Beta http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ on Dapper (AMD64), and am ?happily? running XP on it, mostly for running ham radio programs. I'm also going to set up a 32 bit Dapper VM for those few progs that don't compile or run well on the 64 bit platform.

    So far, so good. BTW, anyone trying to configure software RAID for their Dapper BETA install, you need to use the alternative install CD image, for the old-style install routine (no live disk built-in). A useful guide is here for setting up a RAID1 configuration
    http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.htm l

    Enjoy...

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    1. Re:VMWare Server Beta, RAID install... by Pedersen · · Score: 4, Informative
      Actually, there's a few differences worth noting.
      • VMWare Server does not require a display, Workstation does
      • VMWare Server has a web interface for controlling start, stop, and various configuration bits of vmware. Workstation does not
      • VMWare Server is still in beta, and as such, the license keys expire periodically. Supposedly, this will not happen when it is released sometime this summer.
      • Using the remote console, you can connect to your vmware server hosted machines across the network. With workstation, this is not possible.
      • VMWare Server is free. Workstation is not.
      • VMWare Server works with (at least) version 2.6.15 of linux kernel. Workstation requires unofficial patches.

      So, why would you use Workstation over Server? Support, for one. You can get an actual support contract for Workstation. Whether or not this will be available for Server is unclear at this time. The snapshot manager for Workstation is much more advanced than it is for Server. And, to some degree, Workstation is more convenient on a desktop/laptop than Server.


      So, while not a comprehensive list, this gives some idea of the major differences I've noticed using them both.

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  6. I think it's rather nice too. by john8472 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And we'll be deploying it, automatically, to around 400 workstations, which will be switched on, and running Win XP, all without any manual intervention. And they'll dual boot (Windows/Linux!) afterwards. Which is nice. Eat your heart out FAI. :)

    Oh, and it works nicely under VPC, apart from needing to rebuild the kernel so that the timer tick runs at 100Hz, instead of 1000Hz. Which is also nice.

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    1. Re:I think it's rather nice too. by john8472 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hi,

      The Ubuntu drop is native; the machines dual boot after it's all over.

      The (very) rough details of how to do it are:

      1. Grub for Windows and an initrd image are pushed to the Windows Box.

      2. The Windows box is rebooted into Linux, and mounts an nfs share, which contains enough stuff to get most of the install working. The hard drive has its NTFS partition resized, leaving space for the Linux drop.

      3. The Linux partitions are created in the newly created free space, and then Linux is set up, with the majority of the packages sourced from an Ubuntu mirror (we proxy through Squid, though as we had some snags using apt-proxy) with a custom pre-seed file.

      That's the basics. One of the reasons we need to be able to be able to easily control which o/s to boot into is because most of the PCs run Windows during the day (they are almost all Lab resource workstations at the Uni where I work), and there's a desire to run a Beowulf like setup, out of hours, and during holidays.

      We did try FAI, but because of the Windows infrastructure, we can't run a DHCP/TFTP setup, and booting from a floppy on each workstation was too hideous a concept. Also, FAI is a cryptic as a cryptic thing on a particularly cryptic day, and is horrendous (IMHO) to set up.

      So far, none of it is documented (at all!) but we will be publishing a "how we did it" once the dapper drop is deployed. Right now, I'm not sure where, but it'll prolly go through the Ubuntu website, somewhere or another.

      There have been two of us *involved* in getting it all sorted, but to be honest, I can only bathe in the reflected glory of my colleague at work, because it is he who has been the driving force behind this, and it is he who has carried out the vast majority of the (brain) work. I have been peripheral in this process.

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  7. Last minute bug reports by wysiwia · · Score: 4, Informative

    I happen to test around several boot problems the last few weeks I've summarized just here

    http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10623 67#post1062367

    Since these boot problems are quite difficult and probably mean a no go for anybody not a though expert I really hope they were fixed before release. It probably means another delay for a few days but think it's worth.

    O. Wyss

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  8. Would somebody PLEASE e-mail Mr. Ballmer... by The_REAL_DZA · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...and tell him how to get his own /. username so he can stop posting "AC"?

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  9. Re:six weeks? by babbling · · Score: 5, Informative

    Six extra weeks can help a lot.

    Linux distributions are unlike most operating systems in that most of the software they use is already written before they start. Most of the work involves putting all of the pieces (known to work correctly on their own) together and ensuring that they still work. There's other things involved too, of course, but my point is that the bulk of Ubuntu is programs that were created as separate projects, and this is how Ubuntu is able to be put together so quickly.

  10. Ship it by Life700MB · · Score: 4, Informative


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  11. Re:Not ready for prime time by Pecisk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hmmmm, no. My pick is that Ubuntu Dapper got to one level where you get user (not A geek) to use Linux as primary operational system. In result, lot of different bugs have been filled, for example, about using three sound cards (!) or three monitors, because people have started Dapper for almost everything. And as bugsquad is very warm and responsive to bug fillers, in result, people look at things, test them, fill bugs. Lot of those bugs could be fixed by geek, which have been running RedHat, Slackware, Debian, whatever. Ubuntu rises this bar to common users and in result, lot of bugs for next level to fix :)

    By default, Dapper is the best Ubuntu distro, without any doubt. Bug count just shows how much users are earing to improve and polish this already good distro.

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  12. Re:Reasons to use over debian stable/testing mix? by Deusy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The two primary reasons:
    * More up-to-date than Debian
    * Easier to use than Debian

    "But Debian can be bleeding edge if you add X and Y to sources.list"

    If you have to know such things, then it's not easy to use.

    If you want to start with a desktop that's preconfigured and generally pretty solid without the hassle of setting it up yourself, then Ubuntu Dapper is better than Debian unstable. If you want to start with a minimal base then build your desktop yourself, then Debian is better than Ubuntu.

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  13. Re:For widespread acceptance, change the name by Wudbaer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh come on. In almost EVERY article about something open source someone complains about the naming thing. Good and well, there are some pretty dumb, ugly oder unpronouncable names, but OTOH there are also loads of pretty crappy commercial names, too:

    - My life insurance is at Janitos (will they clean my house if I die ? Ok, I am in Germany, but still it sounds more like some room cleaning service like a large insurer.)

    - Oh look, that guy is driving a Toyota Aventis and I just bought that new great drug from Avensis, or was it the other way round ?

    - The great Borland/Inprise disaster.

    - Qimonda, oh yes ! The Hunchback of Notre Dame's wife ! No ? Oh, it's the recent Infineon spinoff, which uses to be Siemens (on of THE German brand names), like those other guys that also used to be Siemens and whose stupid new artificial name I forgot, even if my dad worked for them for 30 years before they became [stupid artificial name]. Something with e, I think.

    [To be continued ad nauseam]

    So stupid naming is no privilege of Open Source projects, and still those other guys earn shitloads of money.

  14. Re:Just upgraded by Knuckles · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nooo! Please, people, stop recommending this, at least when there is reason to suspect newbies in the vicinity :)

    The better way to upgrade is to use the update manager from the System > Administration menu. Once Dapper is released, it will know about it, and offer Breezy users the option to upgrade. As long as Dapper is not yet officially released, you need to run it with the -d switch from the command line to make it upgrade to Dapper: gksudo update-manager -d

    Ubuntu has invested quite a bit to make the upgrade patch as smooth as possibly, without requiring users to edit sources.list and such. And there are other problems besides editing sources.list: not every change on the system can be expressed in package dependencies. Sometimes changes have to be made that are too dangerous to attempt automatically during the upgrade, and require manual intervention. E.g., the wiki page for the Breezy upgrade listed several things a user must do (see "Post-Upgrade")

    All these things are taken care of now by update-manager

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  15. Examples of failed product names by Flying+pig · · Score: 5, Interesting
    • Mercedes - giving a car a girl's name
    • Cadillac - doesn't sound like anything
    • MAAPICS - pictures of Mars?
    • Virgin - you have to be joking
    • Starbucks - first mate on a whaler?
    • Kodak - deliberately doesn't sound like anything
    Brand names acquire legitimacy through the associations that cluster around them, and not vice versa.
    If Ubuntu succeeds in the market, it will be because of positive associations that will eventually get Joe Public aware of the name. The psychologists in marketing research already know this. They know that you can even make a brand name out of a grimy, crime ridden northern English city (Manchester United), but if it is then taken over by a US entrepreneur and loses its core values it will quickly start to go down the toilet. The entrepreneur may not know that...in exactly the same way, the associations of Windows are starting to go negative. I am sure there are plenty of researchers in Microsoft who know that, but does the management want to listen? If they don't, in ten years time people will be saying "Windows - what a stupid name for something to do with computers. You might as well call it "plasterboard"."
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