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New Enterprise-Level Ubuntu Due This Week
daria42 writes "According to Ubuntu's official release schedule, the next version of its Linux distribution, code-named "Dapper Drake" is due to be released this week, June 1 to be precise. This landmark release will be supported for 5 years (previous versions were only supported for 18 months) and is being touted as ready for enterprise use." From the article: "Dapper Drake will be supported for three years for the desktop version and five years for servers, compared to 18 months for the current 5.10 'Breezy Badger' version. The code release will come after the development process was extended by six weeks in order to improve the reliability of the software."
1st of July, although you can download and install breezy now, dist-upgrade to dapper and then dist-upgrade on the day (I think you can even get a flight-5 dapper ISO right now...?)
I think therefore I am... a Linux geek.
It's the 1st Linux both my PC and my laptop accepted without a hitch during install or usage (past month or so). Bluetooth, Wireless connection, Printer HP PSC 2175 (with built-in scanner), wireless mouse (MX 7000), wireless keyboard, Multimedia keys and hibernate/resume all worked out of the box. Firefox as default browser is very nice. Ubuntu did what several redhat and suse installs didn't do: got me away from XP with a SMILE! *does happy dance*
Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong saying this!! I think you've misunderstood the term enterprise, in this contex. Ubuntu Dapper is 100% free, open source software. No propriety 'enterprise' ties (in that sense of the word). It's stable (like Debian Sarge), reliable and comes with everything you'd need, and it's gunna be supported for 5 years, much like RHEL does, which is VERY important to enterprises/businesses etc. I dunno about you, but I don't see how that can really be a bad thing?
I think therefore I am... a Linux geek.
3 years support for something that is completely free, you can't easily see that anywhere else! Go Linux! I will try to push Linux here.
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Actually you can get Flight 7 at ftp://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/cdimage/releases/6.0 6/flight-7
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You got 'Breezy Badger' and 'Dapper Drake', but where's 'Crazy Crapper'?
With all due respect to Dapper (and a well-deserved one, I'm running it right now and it works fantastically), how is this news? So it will be out in a week - it was known. Don't understand me wrong. The *NEWS* about it getting delayed was news. The *MORE OR LESS NEWS* about it on the release day is news. But this is just publishing a countdown - what will be next? 5 days to Dapper, 4 days to Dapper, ... articles?
And again, this is a very fine Linux distro, which deserves a lot of coverage... but come on!
Ah. XP. In case you're missing it, I've just installed the free VmWare Server Beta http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ on Dapper (AMD64), and am ?happily? running XP on it, mostly for running ham radio programs. I'm also going to set up a 32 bit Dapper VM for those few progs that don't compile or run well on the 64 bit platform.
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So far, so good. BTW, anyone trying to configure software RAID for their Dapper BETA install, you need to use the alternative install CD image, for the old-style install routine (no live disk built-in). A useful guide is here for setting up a RAID1 configuration
http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.ht
Enjoy...
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.
And we'll be deploying it, automatically, to around 400 workstations, which will be switched on, and running Win XP, all without any manual intervention. And they'll dual boot (Windows/Linux!) afterwards. Which is nice. Eat your heart out FAI. :)
Oh, and it works nicely under VPC, apart from needing to rebuild the kernel so that the timer tick runs at 100Hz, instead of 1000Hz. Which is also nice.
I may have been drunk when I wrote this.
I happen to test around several boot problems the last few weeks I've summarized just here
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http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1062
Since these boot problems are quite difficult and probably mean a no go for anybody not a though expert I really hope they were fixed before release. It probably means another delay for a few days but think it's worth.
O. Wyss
See http://wyoguide.sf.net/papers/Cross-platform.html
...and tell him how to get his own /. username so he can stop posting "AC"?
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Dapper 6.06 LTS Release Candidate is available now for download. This is very close to the final release & definitely worth checking out if you're impatient (3 days IS a long time!) http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
Six extra weeks can help a lot.
Linux distributions are unlike most operating systems in that most of the software they use is already written before they start. Most of the work involves putting all of the pieces (known to work correctly on their own) together and ensuring that they still work. There's other things involved too, of course, but my point is that the bulk of Ubuntu is programs that were created as separate projects, and this is how Ubuntu is able to be put together so quickly.
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I've been running it for months now and the only "problem" I had was the built-in sound chip on my motherboard. I dropped in an old SoundBlaster and everything works fine now.It's kind of hard to "over-generalize" having no problems.
I did file one feature request about their ADOdb package's dependencies and they did modify it. I don't know if that would count as a "problem", but it is been working perfectly for me now.
Hmmmm, no. My pick is that Ubuntu Dapper got to one level where you get user (not A geek) to use Linux as primary operational system. In result, lot of different bugs have been filled, for example, about using three sound cards (!) or three monitors, because people have started Dapper for almost everything. And as bugsquad is very warm and responsive to bug fillers, in result, people look at things, test them, fill bugs. Lot of those bugs could be fixed by geek, which have been running RedHat, Slackware, Debian, whatever. Ubuntu rises this bar to common users and in result, lot of bugs for next level to fix :)
By default, Dapper is the best Ubuntu distro, without any doubt. Bug count just shows how much users are earing to improve and polish this already good distro.
user@ubuntubox:~$ stfu This server is going down for shutdown NOW!
The two primary reasons:
* More up-to-date than Debian
* Easier to use than Debian
"But Debian can be bleeding edge if you add X and Y to sources.list"
If you have to know such things, then it's not easy to use.
If you want to start with a desktop that's preconfigured and generally pretty solid without the hassle of setting it up yourself, then Ubuntu Dapper is better than Debian unstable. If you want to start with a minimal base then build your desktop yourself, then Debian is better than Ubuntu.
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Well, in our case, lack of x86_64 support in stable. Debian really mangled their x86_64 support, even now it's a bit wierd. Some ultra-purist conspiracy was responsible for the x86_64 debian port, the WHOLE POINT of x86_64 is so that x86 continues to work smoothly, and they pretty much wasted months on "pure64" effort. RHEL or SuSE handled x86_64 much better (academically a little uglier, but much more useful in enterprise environments with mucho in-house stuff to support), Ubuntu at least handles x86_64. An enterprise-stable x86_64 debianoid like ubuntu MIGHT be enough to get me to switch back from CentOS.
I hope "Ubuntu Support" means more than only security updates, like we now have with Debian Stable.
IMHO, Debian sometimes leaves certain packages broken for the sake of stability, which is not always a good thing.
Support means more than security, functionality is also important.
Of course I'm not speaking of newer versions of packages, but more of the full range of bugs that apply to a certain package. Dapper having 5 years support, I also expect more backports to become available.
Serge
I can second that (the parent). i am running dapper on 2 machines which are frequently updated. on the laptop: the power manager fails which is a pitty. dbus seems to have problems and on both machines (the other one is a 2.4ghz pentium workstation) gnome-session fails upon login after every update (the installation on the desktop computer is plain vanilla without any tweaks). i have to remove loads of ~/.gnome* ~/.gconf* files and login again to get rid of the problems doesn't work every time).
Also, i see that gparted bundeled with ubuntu is version 0.1 (it's in the admin menu by default) which is quiet behind the current "stable" release.
I really hope the ubuntu team isn't rushing out a release which would harm its reputation. I really like ubuntu!
Oh come on. In almost EVERY article about something open source someone complains about the naming thing. Good and well, there are some pretty dumb, ugly oder unpronouncable names, but OTOH there are also loads of pretty crappy commercial names, too:
- My life insurance is at Janitos (will they clean my house if I die ? Ok, I am in Germany, but still it sounds more like some room cleaning service like a large insurer.)
- Oh look, that guy is driving a Toyota Aventis and I just bought that new great drug from Avensis, or was it the other way round ?
- The great Borland/Inprise disaster.
- Qimonda, oh yes ! The Hunchback of Notre Dame's wife ! No ? Oh, it's the recent Infineon spinoff, which uses to be Siemens (on of THE German brand names), like those other guys that also used to be Siemens and whose stupid new artificial name I forgot, even if my dad worked for them for 30 years before they became [stupid artificial name]. Something with e, I think.
[To be continued ad nauseam]
So stupid naming is no privilege of Open Source projects, and still those other guys earn shitloads of money.
Nooo! Please, people, stop recommending this, at least when there is reason to suspect newbies in the vicinity :)
The better way to upgrade is to use the update manager from the System > Administration menu. Once Dapper is released, it will know about it, and offer Breezy users the option to upgrade. As long as Dapper is not yet officially released, you need to run it with the -d switch from the command line to make it upgrade to Dapper: gksudo update-manager -d
Ubuntu has invested quite a bit to make the upgrade patch as smooth as possibly, without requiring users to edit sources.list and such. And there are other problems besides editing sources.list: not every change on the system can be expressed in package dependencies. Sometimes changes have to be made that are too dangerous to attempt automatically during the upgrade, and require manual intervention. E.g., the wiki page for the Breezy upgrade listed several things a user must do (see "Post-Upgrade")
All these things are taken care of now by update-manager
"When I first heard Daydream Nation it quite frankly scared the living shit out of me." -- Matthew Stearns
- Mercedes - giving a car a girl's name
- Cadillac - doesn't sound like anything
- MAAPICS - pictures of Mars?
- Virgin - you have to be joking
- Starbucks - first mate on a whaler?
- Kodak - deliberately doesn't sound like anything
Brand names acquire legitimacy through the associations that cluster around them, and not vice versa.If Ubuntu succeeds in the market, it will be because of positive associations that will eventually get Joe Public aware of the name. The psychologists in marketing research already know this. They know that you can even make a brand name out of a grimy, crime ridden northern English city (Manchester United), but if it is then taken over by a US entrepreneur and loses its core values it will quickly start to go down the toilet. The entrepreneur may not know that...in exactly the same way, the associations of Windows are starting to go negative. I am sure there are plenty of researchers in Microsoft who know that, but does the management want to listen? If they don't, in ten years time people will be saying "Windows - what a stupid name for something to do with computers. You might as well call it "plasterboard"."
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SuSE linux professional was the desktop line. Ubuntu only has 5 years support for the server version, it's less for the desktop, just like SuSE. If you run desktop versions of OS's, you get shorter support times. If you built a server from a £70 workstation disc, then such is life.
You have four choices. Keep doing what you're doing; upgrade to the free SUSE Linux 10.1 OSS, with shorter support lifetime; upgrade to the paid version of SUSE linux 10.1, with an active support time of 2 years, or upgrade to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server, lifetimes available here. A new version of SLES is due soon, you may want to wait a month or two, if you decide to go this route, as SLES 9 is a couple of years into its 5 year general support cycle.
Of course, you could switch the server to a different distro altogether. Just go for the server-intended ones, you'll be much happier in a few years time.
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I have used Linux on and off since 1998 and Kubuntu Breezy was the biggest aggravation since Redhat 5.2. The network didn't work properly and the GUI config tool was useless I had to fuck around a lot to convince it to use the right network card (I've got ethernet and wireless, wanted to use ethernet, it decided to connect to my neighbour's WLAN instead). That sort of annoyance hasn't happened to me since Redhat 6.0, ethernet has just worked automatically without any user intervention, which is the whole bloody point of DHCP. I picked the ethernet card at installation too, Breezy just didn't believe that I wanted that and changed it for me. If I'd have wanted Win98-style crap decisions I would have installed Win98.
Universe and multiverse receive no official core-dev support by default; they're community supported. A few of us have spent time with -updates and -security for universe, but we could use assistance.