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New Enterprise-Level Ubuntu Due This Week
daria42 writes "According to Ubuntu's official release schedule, the next version of its Linux distribution, code-named "Dapper Drake" is due to be released this week, June 1 to be precise. This landmark release will be supported for 5 years (previous versions were only supported for 18 months) and is being touted as ready for enterprise use." From the article: "Dapper Drake will be supported for three years for the desktop version and five years for servers, compared to 18 months for the current 5.10 'Breezy Badger' version. The code release will come after the development process was extended by six weeks in order to improve the reliability of the software."
1st of July, although you can download and install breezy now, dist-upgrade to dapper and then dist-upgrade on the day (I think you can even get a flight-5 dapper ISO right now...?)
I think therefore I am... a Linux geek.
It's the 1st Linux both my PC and my laptop accepted without a hitch during install or usage (past month or so). Bluetooth, Wireless connection, Printer HP PSC 2175 (with built-in scanner), wireless mouse (MX 7000), wireless keyboard, Multimedia keys and hibernate/resume all worked out of the box. Firefox as default browser is very nice. Ubuntu did what several redhat and suse installs didn't do: got me away from XP with a SMILE! *does happy dance*
Reminds me of something Jeff Waugh had to say.
Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong saying this!! I think you've misunderstood the term enterprise, in this contex. Ubuntu Dapper is 100% free, open source software. No propriety 'enterprise' ties (in that sense of the word). It's stable (like Debian Sarge), reliable and comes with everything you'd need, and it's gunna be supported for 5 years, much like RHEL does, which is VERY important to enterprises/businesses etc. I dunno about you, but I don't see how that can really be a bad thing?
I think therefore I am... a Linux geek.
3 years support for something that is completely free, you can't easily see that anywhere else! Go Linux! I will try to push Linux here.
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So, six weeks is all it takes to make something enterprise-grade?
Actually you can get Flight 7 at ftp://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/cdimage/releases/6.0 6/flight-7
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Or you can just install the enterprise-ready version right from the original source here. Why settle for imitations when you can have the original?
You got 'Breezy Badger' and 'Dapper Drake', but where's 'Crazy Crapper'?
With all due respect to Dapper (and a well-deserved one, I'm running it right now and it works fantastically), how is this news? So it will be out in a week - it was known. Don't understand me wrong. The *NEWS* about it getting delayed was news. The *MORE OR LESS NEWS* about it on the release day is news. But this is just publishing a countdown - what will be next? 5 days to Dapper, 4 days to Dapper, ... articles?
And again, this is a very fine Linux distro, which deserves a lot of coverage... but come on!
Ah. XP. In case you're missing it, I've just installed the free VmWare Server Beta http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ on Dapper (AMD64), and am ?happily? running XP on it, mostly for running ham radio programs. I'm also going to set up a 32 bit Dapper VM for those few progs that don't compile or run well on the 64 bit platform.
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So far, so good. BTW, anyone trying to configure software RAID for their Dapper BETA install, you need to use the alternative install CD image, for the old-style install routine (no live disk built-in). A useful guide is here for setting up a RAID1 configuration
http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.ht
Enjoy...
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And we'll be deploying it, automatically, to around 400 workstations, which will be switched on, and running Win XP, all without any manual intervention. And they'll dual boot (Windows/Linux!) afterwards. Which is nice. Eat your heart out FAI. :)
Oh, and it works nicely under VPC, apart from needing to rebuild the kernel so that the timer tick runs at 100Hz, instead of 1000Hz. Which is also nice.
I may have been drunk when I wrote this.
I happen to test around several boot problems the last few weeks I've summarized just here
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http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1062
Since these boot problems are quite difficult and probably mean a no go for anybody not a though expert I really hope they were fixed before release. It probably means another delay for a few days but think it's worth.
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See http://wyoguide.sf.net/papers/Cross-platform.html
...and tell him how to get his own /. username so he can stop posting "AC"?
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Dapper 6.06 LTS Release Candidate is available now for download. This is very close to the final release & definitely worth checking out if you're impatient (3 days IS a long time!) http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
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I've been running it on my laptop for the last 4 months.
Almost all the issues I've had have been slowly worked out over time. I don't currently have any complaints. Running both KDE and Gnome.
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"The code release will come after the development process was extended by six weeks in order to improve the reliability of the software."
I've been using Dapper Drake since March, and I've had fewer problems with the betas than I have with stable releases from other distros (Gentoo I'm looking at you).
I rarely criticize things I don't care about.
I've been running it for months now and the only "problem" I had was the built-in sound chip on my motherboard. I dropped in an old SoundBlaster and everything works fine now.It's kind of hard to "over-generalize" having no problems.
I did file one feature request about their ADOdb package's dependencies and they did modify it. I don't know if that would count as a "problem", but it is been working perfectly for me now.
Hmmmm, no. My pick is that Ubuntu Dapper got to one level where you get user (not A geek) to use Linux as primary operational system. In result, lot of different bugs have been filled, for example, about using three sound cards (!) or three monitors, because people have started Dapper for almost everything. And as bugsquad is very warm and responsive to bug fillers, in result, people look at things, test them, fill bugs. Lot of those bugs could be fixed by geek, which have been running RedHat, Slackware, Debian, whatever. Ubuntu rises this bar to common users and in result, lot of bugs for next level to fix :)
By default, Dapper is the best Ubuntu distro, without any doubt. Bug count just shows how much users are earing to improve and polish this already good distro.
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The two primary reasons:
* More up-to-date than Debian
* Easier to use than Debian
"But Debian can be bleeding edge if you add X and Y to sources.list"
If you have to know such things, then it's not easy to use.
If you want to start with a desktop that's preconfigured and generally pretty solid without the hassle of setting it up yourself, then Ubuntu Dapper is better than Debian unstable. If you want to start with a minimal base then build your desktop yourself, then Debian is better than Ubuntu.
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Edit the sources.list file. Put this in it:Run the following commands:
# apt-get update
# apt-get dist-upgrade
Then reboot
Done!
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I think the wpa is better than windows actually - I can hot-undock my dell d800 and the first screen I get is the keyring prompt for the password so it can login to my wpa connection. I can do whatever, come back and hot-dock and my wired is up after a second or two. Just my experience, though.
I have SuSE Linux "Professional" boxen that I have to maintain from a mirror of SuSE's updates because they dropped active support after 18 months and took the files off of their update servers after 3 years. Given that's less than the mean time between reboots that I'd expect for an enterprise system, that was a big mistake on their part; they'll never get a red cent from me again.
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OS X is certainly the prettiest, most polished OS out there, but my future is Linux, I can feel it. I'm starting to use applications like GIMP, Inkscape, and OpenOffice more and more. I'm slowly switching to OpenSource alternatives to everything. Seashore is great, but doesn't import SVG (or support any) paths and can't be used with UFRaw (my main reason for using GIMP). Picasa isn't Open Source, but it also isn't available on Mac, and I'd love a tool that gives me detailed EXIF data (plus iPhoto 5 is pretty slow and I don't want to pay to upgrade). Inkscape loads very slowly, but performs well once it's open. The latest NeoOffice alpha performs better than OpenOffice 2, and actually supports ODF; I consider that a solution.
Still, I haven't done a crossgrade on my Windows Photoshop CS (at first because I was waiting for a Universal - no point in upgrading to old technology) but also because money's too tight for the spare $175. In the meantime, I'm starting to become more supportive of Photoshop's open source alternatives. Sure, GIMP has no layer effects (yet), but it's catching up very quickly considering how long it's been in development.
What I'd really love to see is an open alternative to Aperture or LightRoom, or even just Picasa. I want to see my EXIF data without loading another application!
Well, in our case, lack of x86_64 support in stable. Debian really mangled their x86_64 support, even now it's a bit wierd. Some ultra-purist conspiracy was responsible for the x86_64 debian port, the WHOLE POINT of x86_64 is so that x86 continues to work smoothly, and they pretty much wasted months on "pure64" effort. RHEL or SuSE handled x86_64 much better (academically a little uglier, but much more useful in enterprise environments with mucho in-house stuff to support), Ubuntu at least handles x86_64. An enterprise-stable x86_64 debianoid like ubuntu MIGHT be enough to get me to switch back from CentOS.
I know suse 10.1 doesn't support the Broadcom 43xx :( , but if you go to kernel.org the latest stable release finnally supports it. It seems I have been jumping trying to get drivers, for the last few years know they are finally getting within reach.
I hope "Ubuntu Support" means more than only security updates, like we now have with Debian Stable.
IMHO, Debian sometimes leaves certain packages broken for the sake of stability, which is not always a good thing.
Support means more than security, functionality is also important.
Of course I'm not speaking of newer versions of packages, but more of the full range of bugs that apply to a certain package. Dapper having 5 years support, I also expect more backports to become available.
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Count me in as well. I've been running it on my gateway laptop for 3-4 months and haven't had a problem, in fact with the inclusion of the broadcom wireless driver in the kernel I've had less problems as I don't have to use NDIS wrapper. All the software packages I use work fine (better than the last release even). The only problem with install I had was the sound "not working", which involved me opening up alsamixer (open terminal type alsamixer) then muting (I think it was mute not unmute) the external amp channel ('m' key does muting), and then it worked. That was the only thing that took me time to figure out (and I've had to do that since previous releases). I have been super happy with this release and haven't missed windows one bit on my laptop.
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I'm just praying that they're going to fix my top 3 bugs: 1) KVM switch support. When you switch away from Ubuntu and back - The mouse goes NUTS. This is apparently caused by mouse protocol issues and had workarounds in Breezy Badger & Worked just fine in Hoary. Nothing seems to work to fix this problem for me. in Dapper. :(
2) Windows network printer support. This simply doesn't work. At all.
3) Windows network fileshare support. This is pretty flakey right now. It seems to work really well if you're looking for a share on a 95/98/ME machine, but NT/2000/XP Not very reliable. I guess the workaround is to setup the share on the Ubuntu machine, but I like to be able to go any direction I need to at the time, you know?
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I've been reporting to, and watching, the bug database for the past :)
week or so, and the number of CRITICAL and MAJOR bugs have gone down
drastically over the past three days (many will still show after they've
got 'rejected' or 'fix released', but they can be ignored). From what's
left, I can see a little overlap on some problems, including one that
hindered me from upgrading to Flight 7 from Breezy. Here's hoping they
squash it in the next couple of days
I can second that (the parent). i am running dapper on 2 machines which are frequently updated. on the laptop: the power manager fails which is a pitty. dbus seems to have problems and on both machines (the other one is a 2.4ghz pentium workstation) gnome-session fails upon login after every update (the installation on the desktop computer is plain vanilla without any tweaks). i have to remove loads of ~/.gnome* ~/.gconf* files and login again to get rid of the problems doesn't work every time).
Also, i see that gparted bundeled with ubuntu is version 0.1 (it's in the admin menu by default) which is quiet behind the current "stable" release.
I really hope the ubuntu team isn't rushing out a release which would harm its reputation. I really like ubuntu!
Oh come on. In almost EVERY article about something open source someone complains about the naming thing. Good and well, there are some pretty dumb, ugly oder unpronouncable names, but OTOH there are also loads of pretty crappy commercial names, too:
- My life insurance is at Janitos (will they clean my house if I die ? Ok, I am in Germany, but still it sounds more like some room cleaning service like a large insurer.)
- Oh look, that guy is driving a Toyota Aventis and I just bought that new great drug from Avensis, or was it the other way round ?
- The great Borland/Inprise disaster.
- Qimonda, oh yes ! The Hunchback of Notre Dame's wife ! No ? Oh, it's the recent Infineon spinoff, which uses to be Siemens (on of THE German brand names), like those other guys that also used to be Siemens and whose stupid new artificial name I forgot, even if my dad worked for them for 30 years before they became [stupid artificial name]. Something with e, I think.
[To be continued ad nauseam]
So stupid naming is no privilege of Open Source projects, and still those other guys earn shitloads of money.
- Mercedes - giving a car a girl's name
- Cadillac - doesn't sound like anything
- MAAPICS - pictures of Mars?
- Virgin - you have to be joking
- Starbucks - first mate on a whaler?
- Kodak - deliberately doesn't sound like anything
Brand names acquire legitimacy through the associations that cluster around them, and not vice versa.If Ubuntu succeeds in the market, it will be because of positive associations that will eventually get Joe Public aware of the name. The psychologists in marketing research already know this. They know that you can even make a brand name out of a grimy, crime ridden northern English city (Manchester United), but if it is then taken over by a US entrepreneur and loses its core values it will quickly start to go down the toilet. The entrepreneur may not know that...in exactly the same way, the associations of Windows are starting to go negative. I am sure there are plenty of researchers in Microsoft who know that, but does the management want to listen? If they don't, in ten years time people will be saying "Windows - what a stupid name for something to do with computers. You might as well call it "plasterboard"."
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Can't comment about sentral auth or distributed, but just apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone and you'v got the PXE boot diskless terms.
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Do I think that corporate types would ever pick such a name? wii
I have used Linux on and off since 1998 and Kubuntu Breezy was the biggest aggravation since Redhat 5.2. The network didn't work properly and the GUI config tool was useless I had to fuck around a lot to convince it to use the right network card (I've got ethernet and wireless, wanted to use ethernet, it decided to connect to my neighbour's WLAN instead). That sort of annoyance hasn't happened to me since Redhat 6.0, ethernet has just worked automatically without any user intervention, which is the whole bloody point of DHCP. I picked the ethernet card at installation too, Breezy just didn't believe that I wanted that and changed it for me. If I'd have wanted Win98-style crap decisions I would have installed Win98.
Universe and multiverse receive no official core-dev support by default; they're community supported. A few of us have spent time with -updates and -security for universe, but we could use assistance.
Mine's a compaq v5000 laptop - same problems. This is why Apple is winning the hearts and minds of people looking for unixy hardware - the stuff just works.
The biggest hurdle linux will face in the next couple years (and is facing now) is laptop support. You *can't* just go swap out your network or video card for one that is 'linux compatible', and trying to look for 'linux compatible' hardware when you're buying requires more effort than most people can go through. Sites http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ are a nice idea, but hopelessly out of date. Probably a full 95% of the hardware listed on that site is not available in retails stores, relegating you to ebay and other used hardware sources.
What mandriva, ubuntu, redhat and others need to do is put a bit of money in to testing/verifying their software, setup and detection systems with new hardware. Given the potentially high adoption rate of RHEL (for example) if people could get basic stuff like wireless working easily, it would be cost-justified for Redhat to send people to best buy and pick up 1-2 laptops a month and test/fix/patch their stuff to work with the latest hardware, then contribute that back. Or ubuntu - they're touted as having money to 'invest' in linux.
Making sure ubuntu works with a 4 year old abandoned network card isn't going to get as many people to switch/adopt a distro as making sure it'll run on current hardware.
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Ubuntu is a great package for desktops, for normal users to get the most out of their hardware and the jobs they do with their computers. I'd love to see an upgrade system that downloaded the new version from the Net, pulled user data (including OS and app configs, installed app lists, email, other Personal Info) from the old install, and burned it all to an archive/installer CD-ROM. All started by a single click, and an up-front set of questions, with the rest 100% automated. Reinstalling to the same HW ought to make installer deductions faster and more correct, and so deterministic that users can reinstall from source whenever they want, for the best fit, and least sweat.
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