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Japanese Gamers' Post-E3 Reversal

Castar writes "Prior to E3, Famitsu readers were interested in the PS3, and Final Fantasy. Post E3, while there's still some excitement over Final Fantasy, they seem to be very interested in the Wii, and concerned about the PS3's high price. It certainly seems that in Japan, at least, Nintendo and Sony's fortunes have reversed. Will this hold through the launch and the succeeding years?" From the article: "Nearly 70% of readers said they are most looking forward to Wii. 21% voted for PlayStation 3, while the others voted for systems already released. 88.4% of readers believe PlayStation 3 is too expensive, while 10% believe it's 'about right'."

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  1. Re:Fortunes reversed? by I+Like+Pudding · · Score: 4, Funny

    Besides, I think Sony has other irons in the fire.

    One DRM to rule them all
    One platform to find them
    One format to bring them all
    and in the darkness, bind them

    Then there's the Satan deal...

  2. Yes fortunes did reverse by technoextreme · · Score: 2, Informative
    Uh, neither product has shipped.
    Besides, I think Sony has other irons in the fire.

    Yes but I remember someone mentioning on Slashdot that a poll just like this was conducted before the PS3 price announce in Japan and the Playstation 3 came out on top. Now the polls say something else differnt.
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  3. I'm wondering at a market skism by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 4, Informative

    As of yet, the 360 isn't selling that well in Japan, and there's little in the future that indicates that will change (regardless of "Dead or Alive Extra Booby Breast Physics), though it probably won't be a total wash as the Xbox was in Japan.

    However, the 360 continues to do well in United States, though my friends in Europe seem to think that it's doing "OK, but not great" out there.

    So I wonder if world wide domination will go to the Wii by default. Take the recent "The Wii is a great secondary system" by both Sony and Microsoft execs, and the recent polls that show that most console gamers are planning on buying the Wii.

    Now, look at how Japan versus US versus Europe may go. I imagine the PS3 will still do well in Japan (though not as stellar as the PS2) because of the "big names" like "Final Fantasy" and "Dragon Quest". But if the DS versus PSP is any indication with recent polls, Japanese consumers are more willing to give Nintendo another shot at life. So final console sales in Japan (barring handhelds) may be for "first console sales" (aka - the first "next gen" console people buy):

    PS3: 50%
    Wii: 40%
    360: 10%

    Granted - the 360 sales maybe be high. Not trying to be mean here - just going by history.

    Then the US and Europe may split into this for initial console sales:

    360: 40%
    PS3: 30%
    Wii: 30%

    So just off of initial console sales alone, the Wii could win. The situation drastically changes when you consider Wii sales as a secondary console - ie: if a majority of homes with a PS3 buy a second console, it may be a Wii, and the same with the 360.

    There are several things that may throw this off, of course - perhaps the majority of 360 owners don't want to buy a Wii because "I'm a 1337 gamer no doesn't like kids games n00b!" or something, but so far, Nintendo has to feel pretty good. As long as they don't screw it up in the next six months, and as long as (unlike Microsoft's launch) they have plenty of units at launch (if anything, they should *overproduce* as much as they can to make sure that everybody who wants a Wii can get one). If the number pan out, then developers might find themselves looking at the Wii for sheer number of sales alone, let alone the unique controller.

    Then again, these numbers are all pulled out of my ass anyway, so who knows? The next year should be rather interesting for gamers.

    1. Re:I'm wondering at a market skism by (A)*(B)!0_- · · Score: 2, Informative
      "(unlike Microsoft's launch) they have plenty of units at launch (if anything, they should *overproduce* as much as they can to make sure that everybody who wants a Wii can get one)."
      You think that Microsoft chose how many 360s to manufacture for the launch and that once that number was reached, factory floors went quiet? Console shortages are caused by the manufacturer not being able to get them out the door fast enough, not manufacturers trying to hedge their bets and only producing a limited number.
    2. Re:I'm wondering at a market skism by argStyopa · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Dead or Alive Extra Booby Breast Physics

      So...has this been announced yet?

      I'm sorry, did you say something else too?

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      -Styopa
  4. Ouch by wilgibson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When 88.4% of the polled market says the price is too high maybe you should listen. This is extremely true in Japan, where while the younger generation still has money to burn, they aren't going out and buying things that cost $600 not while they are paying sometimes almost $1000/month for that one bedroom appartment.

    Hell, when I went in March to see my girlfriend, the only person I ever saw with a PSP was her brother. His friends said they wanted to get one, but that it was too expensive.

    1. Re:Ouch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not sure if this demonstrates that the price is too high for the PS3 as much as it shows that there is no compelling reason to own a PS3 and the price is too high.

      Seriously, when you compare the Wii and the PS3 what you notice is that practically every game on the Wii looks interesting enough to make you want to (at least) try it whereas every game on the PS3 seems like you've played the exact same game before; also the Wii is releasing many of their largest franchises (Metriod, Zelda, Mario, Smash Bros.) within the first 9 months, where the PS3 has none of it's major titles due out before next E3.

      Why would you be interested in a $600 game machine which has no interesting games?

  5. RPG Shift by ureshii_akuma · · Score: 3, Interesting
    While it is all speculation, and we will have to wait 'till the sytems are out a while to know if there is a change in the market, I have been wondering if the price of the PS2 combined with the input device of the Wii might mean we see a shift back to Nintendo as the primary Japanese RPG / SRPG platform.

    One of the main reasons I own a PS2 is for Japanese RPGs - plain and simple, it is where most of the developers are. The primary reason? The prolific amount of PS2s in the wild in Japan.

    Fast forward to 2007/2008. IF the price of the PS3 negatively impacts its adoption rate in Japan, and IF the price and novelty of the Wii positively impacts its adoption rate in Japan, suddenly I could see a lot of development houses making the following chocies - ignore the PS3 and continue working on PS2 titles (systems seem to last longer in terms of game releases in Japan than they do in the US), or develop Wii titles. The Wii control scheme would likely work well with menu driven (point-and-click) interfaces.

    Of course, there are some big ifs there, and of course big dev houses like Square-Enix will likely stick with the PS3 for their primary platform, but polls like the one for this article do lead me to believe such a shift is not all together impossible.

  6. Re:stupid readers by KDR_11k · · Score: 2

    No, there actually was a "too cheap" option.

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    Justice is the sheep getting arrested while an impartial judge declares the vote void.
  7. First Time Buyer by Draracle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a long time gamer I have never owned a console. I have always followed the matra: "Anything your console can do, my PC can do better". So, yet again, my PC is already out-performing the Xbox and Sony offers nothing but more beef -- and my PC will just pack on a few more pounds itself. But the Wii... wow. This thing touches on something that the new Hollywood-like gaming industry has fogotten. Hardware specs and graphics do not make a game... any more than a pile of icing makes a cake. The Wii, imho, is tapping back into the idea of "gaming" and then taking it in its logical direction (which is not better rendering speeds). For the first time ever, I will be buying a console system. I finally see a system that says "I am a gamer" and is backed by a company which, in taking such a risk, is making obvious its understanding of gaming. The view from here is that the Wii will be a helluvalotta fun. Sony and Microsoft, well you can kiss my PC's shiny metal ass.

  8. Re:Fortunes reversed? by StarWreck · · Score: 2, Funny
    I believe the actual quote is:
    One platform to rule them all
    One rootkit to find them
    One device to bring them all
    And in the DRM, bind them
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    ... and in the DRM, bind them.
  9. Brain Age? by blitzsieg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the past few months have shown us anything about Japan, it's that they dig innovation. Do you know what the recently surpassed #2 selling video game of all time for the first day is in Japan? Brain Age. That's right, the simple, yet highly addictive game that could have been done by one programmer in a few months sold 415,000 copies in Japan on the first day.

    What's this tell us? That the Japanese are ready for innovations in games. And honestly, the only system so far to show any innovation is the Wii. The 360 is going to flop in Japan. The PS3 in my opinion is just offering the same games that only look prettier.

  10. Re:I think you are under estimating the WII by LWATCDR · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually I think Nintendo has had the right idea all along. For the life of me I can not understand why the GameCube wasn't a bigger hit. It seems to match the PS/2 in graphics. Games like Resident Evil look pretty good on the GC. My guess is that the Nintendo was still dealing with the fall out from the N64 errors. Nintendo was betting that the faster load time of the cartridge would trump the cinematics and cheaper media of the CD-ROM.
    The real truth is, only time will tell. In my office a lot more people are going to buy the Wii than the PS/3. From that data it looks to me as if Nintendo has a winner on it's hands.

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  11. Re:Polls and surveys by ClamIAm · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I think that in the video game industry, people try and draw logical conclusions without first really defining their starting point. Just thinking about this for a second, I put forth the assertion that there are two components gamers love: something significantly better than before, and something that is a new idea.

    Now, there's a fine line between "new idea" and "gimmick". I think that Nintendo walks this line every day. When the DS and the Wii controller were both announced, people at first were pretty skeptical. Although we don't know about the Wii yet, the DS has managed to turn out some cool stuff. On the other hand, we have stuff like the GBA-to-Cube link and the U-Force controller. Personally, I think that as long as the Wiimote works well, it will do at least as well as the Gamecube did.

  12. Re:I think you are under estimating the WII by BenjyD · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's just the games library that meant the GC wasn't as successful. The PS2 was out earlier, had better marketing and better licensing terms (AFAIK). It annoys me that the PS2 did so well, because it is underpowered, forcing games to rely on FMV, has a poor controller and long load times. But if I want to play Guitar Hero, Ico, Katamari, God of War etc I have to own one.
    There's no way I'm buying a PS3, though.