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Fedora Core 5 Re-spins Available
Lxy writes "The Fedora Community released re-spins of Fedora Core 5 last Thursday. What's a respin you ask? To put it simply, all the latest updates have been patched into the install CDs, eliminating the need for a long download process after installing. You can read the press release here and of course nab the torrents here."
Now, instead of downloading up-to-the-minute patches after I install, I can download up-to-the-week ISOs before I install! That means rather than an additional 50-100MB, I get to download an entire 4GB DVD image.
Hold on a minute....
Fedora is a distro for suckers. Why should I beta test for a greedy Micro$oft-like corporation? What the hell has Red Hat ever done for the Linux community? I might as well be using Windows.
Perhaps they should have named it "Chapeau (Dub Remix)".
It's Fedora Core! The *wikkiwikkiwikki* REMIX!
*cue Puff Daddy dancing around like his pants are falling off*
Now, I understand that testers aren't their primary audience, that building the ISO images & setting up the installers is not always a trivial task, and that the development files change frequently enough that large updates are almost inevitable without an automated ISO build script, so I am not saying that they "should" build such images - merely that it would be very handy for some of us if they did.
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Fedora core being the gigantic beast that it is, why isn't there a push towards network installation ? For those few that will install linux on a whole bunch of PC's the ISOs are ok, though a "Jigdo"-style custom ISO might be better, but for people like me who install once and use it for months without reinstalling, a small net-based launcher would be great as I could download only the bits I need. This is what I do for Debian and of course Gentoo and I think it's great, but for Fedora this is considered a hack and tends to break things.
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From what I can tell, they've only produced respins of the DVD images. So if you don't have a DVD burner, or if you need to install on machines that only have CD players, you'll still need to download 2 months' worth of updates.
Here's some more places you can get Fedora with security updates conveniently added on:
* Click here
* or here
* or here
* and finally, here (Plenty of servers, so best performance!).
HTH!
Debian & Redhat/Fedora always have the kludge piled on & needing the extra loads of patches...
i wont tell you my favorite distro, but it is supported and does not get the problems these high profile distros get...
I remember FC4 and some genius took it upon himself to release new CDs with all updates applied. It was then known as FC4.1 and later FC4.2 if I recall correctly. I was kinda looking for a FC5.1 but the "Respin" is a much nicer deal especially since it's more or less a 'blessed' activity.
I have FC5 installed on several machines and I almost never "upgrade" from a previous version although I might do that with my network server box... still undecided. But using the same FC5 DVD to install and then let it run for hours to update is a pretty lengthy process.... one worthy of a nap. But while I've got torrents streaming down, I wouldn't mind adding this one to keep my current version up to date. I just wonder how I missed the announcement...
that building the ISO images & setting up the installers is not always a trivial task
Any idea what that is? It sounds like a misfeature to me if you can't do 'make iso'. That seems like a reasonable target for automation.
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This is not Fedora Core 5, but an incremental release?
Oh I know, let's do what makes sense and call it Fedora Core 5.1 to eliminate confusion and avoid compatibility issues down the road, and potential security holes when the sysadmin grabs the wrong Fedora Core 5.0 DVD.
Oh right, that makes too much sense.
Seriously, now, why didn't they just announce Fedora Core 5.1, or at least 5.0.1?
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This seems misleading, since both links go to some unofficial site. Not that "unofficial" is necessarily bad, but I have no idea who these dudes are.
-Peter
It would be great if someone created a burn of FC with all the stuff you add in later anyway, like java, mp3 support, mplayer, etc.
And put the "install everything" option back in.
Current modern distros are just too whopper big to deal with on dialup. If you miss the first week or so before you get the snail mail disks, you are stuck every day downloading and patching some huge amount, this way you can can at least wait a bit, let the first month of patches go out (always large once a LOT more people are running the release and finding the gotchas and figuring out the work arounds, THEN get your disks and start patching/updating. Just when you finally get your personal "stable" release all fully patched and tweaked and customized, WHAM, the next "new" one comes out.
So, what would be even *better* is end of release cycle fully updated and patched ISOs! I would love those! Once it drops into "extreme critical patches only" territory, until that runs out, (fedora legacy in this case) you can just get the now truly stable release and run it and have just a minimum amount of patching/downloading/updating. My workarond for this so far has been to just skip every other release, purely from the huge amount of downloading I can avoid.
trhe trolls come out. I must say, the heads at RedHat at bigger men than I. The very people they are trying to help (While making money for their business of course) shout them down every chance they get with FUD, I might have called it quits and lived out my life in quiet retirement hacking away on my own. Pity really.
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Why they didn't use a sane name - update, service pack (ungh!) etc. - is beyond me. The fact that the article needed to explain what re-spin meant is a bad sign.
Its a great idea, but it would make a world of a difference if they used names that were obvious. You know where I'm going with this, so I'll stop.
I was disappointed to see that only the i386 and x86_64 FC5 sets were respun. When official updates are made by Fedora itself, they include new packages for all supported platforms. However, the Fedora "Unity Project" respins, they don't really seem to have unity in mind. :) I personally don't care as I've stopped downloading the 5 ISO sets in favor of installing from a rescue CD.
I directly caused this, by finally getting around to installing Core 5 on the weekend and downloading 271 updates over about 36 hours on my slow home connection.
I assume it was only possible to release the re-spin after I had gone through the hassle of yum updating a couple of hundred packages, in the same way that I cause stock markets to drop by buying shares...
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Does anyone else think it is sad, that they had enough bug fixes and updates to even warrant creating a "Respin" cd? That would lead me to believe that it was ready when they released it to begin with.