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Fedora Core 5 Re-spins Available
Lxy writes "The Fedora Community released re-spins of Fedora Core 5 last Thursday. What's a respin you ask? To put it simply, all the latest updates have been patched into the install CDs, eliminating the need for a long download process after installing. You can read the press release here and of course nab the torrents here."
Now, instead of downloading up-to-the-minute patches after I install, I can download up-to-the-week ISOs before I install! That means rather than an additional 50-100MB, I get to download an entire 4GB DVD image.
Hold on a minute....
It's Fedora Core! The *wikkiwikkiwikki* REMIX!
*cue Puff Daddy dancing around like his pants are falling off*
From what I can tell, they've only produced respins of the DVD images. So if you don't have a DVD burner, or if you need to install on machines that only have CD players, you'll still need to download 2 months' worth of updates.
Here's some more places you can get Fedora with security updates conveniently added on:
* Click here
* or here
* or here
* and finally, here (Plenty of servers, so best performance!).
HTH!
What the hell has Red Hat ever done for the Linux community?
What, aside from from contributions to the kernel, employing Linux developers (Alan Cox, anyone?) pushing the development of the ext3 filesystem... Grab the latest kernel source and grep -r for @redhat.com -- you might be surprised.
Oh, sorry, you didn't actually want an answer to that, did you?
"All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?"
Every time RedHat is discussed here, some bozo makes a comment like the one you just refuted. I guess the rule here is that if anyone makes any money from open-source software, they become, by definition, a "parasite" on the community. I'm sorry, but I don't object to the fact that Red Hat has managed to create a business from Linux and other OSS products; in fact, I've encouraged people to own their stock. Good for them. I've used every RedHat version from 4.0-9.0 and Fedora Core 1-5 at some time or other (and a couple of WhiteBox and CentOS respins as well). Sure there are things about these distributions that bother me (the over-emphasis of Gnome, for instance), but not the fact that Red Hat has succeeded as a business.
Usually these comments sound like sour grapes to me.
Uh... You mean like the network installation option? Like the one I use almost daily for my installs?
o re/5/i386/os/images/pxeboot/
Using pxe-boot, from tftp server, launching the initrd and kernel files from the *shock horror* pxeboot images folder! You can also boot the cd and select http/ftp/etc install or create floppies... Plenty of options.
Some files: http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/fedora/linux/c
We mirror the entire fedora tree locally each night, and install from that. It's very much do-able, google away!
This seems misleading, since both links go to some unofficial site. Not that "unofficial" is necessarily bad, but I have no idea who these dudes are.
-Peter
It's not an incremental release. It's Fedora Core 5 plus all updates as of the time the ISOs were created.
In theory, if you were to take two systems, install one from the stock FC5 disc and the other from the respin disc, then run the updater on each, both systems would be identical except for your config choices.
The difference is that one system only has to download updates released since the end of May, while the other had to download updates since March. Both of them end up being Fedora Core 5.
(As far as naming is concerned, it's not an official Fedora release, so Fedora Core 5.1 wouldn't make sense. http://fedoraunity.org/re-spins/faq )
Current modern distros are just too whopper big to deal with on dialup. If you miss the first week or so before you get the snail mail disks, you are stuck every day downloading and patching some huge amount, this way you can can at least wait a bit, let the first month of patches go out (always large once a LOT more people are running the release and finding the gotchas and figuring out the work arounds, THEN get your disks and start patching/updating. Just when you finally get your personal "stable" release all fully patched and tweaked and customized, WHAM, the next "new" one comes out.
So, what would be even *better* is end of release cycle fully updated and patched ISOs! I would love those! Once it drops into "extreme critical patches only" territory, until that runs out, (fedora legacy in this case) you can just get the now truly stable release and run it and have just a minimum amount of patching/downloading/updating. My workarond for this so far has been to just skip every other release, purely from the huge amount of downloading I can avoid.
This is exactly what CentOS does. They ship a new image every so often that has all the updates and call it version 4.3, for example. Works well and the updates are transparent and work with every version. Periodically we update our net install image so that we can do a network install of the latest patch level. Plus we maintain an internal yum mirror for security updates.
Sorry about the formatting... That's what I get for not hitting preview....
/etc/make.conf with the appropriate flags. Ran emerge oneshot on the dep package, and then ran emerge world again... went to work, came home expecting a fresh updated system.... Oops missing more USE flags... Fixed the problem... and fixed another one again... So then I tried to install a so called "webapp": phpmyadmin. Oops again! I can't install it properly because the webapp-config file is not correct... It turns out that from the time the system was originally installed and when I updated it the "webapp-config" app was re-written in Python from Bash, and emerge didn't notify me that I needed to do anything regarding this file, so after MORE research I fixed that issue, and then had to look forward to etc-config'ing over 137 changed etc files.... Boy that was fun...
You've never had to maintain real production systems before have you? I believe that others have answered your question as to what RedHat has done for the community. You may want to ask yourself the same question.
Since you sound like a Gentoo Ricer to me, I just want to share my recent "emerge" experiences. I had the dubious honor of admining/updating a Gentoo system for a friend the other day. After hearing all the GFanbois going on and on about emerge, I was looking forward to "taking it for a spin" so to speak.
Server Specs
Dual PIII 1.4 GHz
1GB RAM
HW SCSI RAID 5 ARRAY
Not sexy in any sense, but not uncommon either in production environments. So after reading the Gentoo Emerge man and website I began my journey...
First thing I ran into after I did a emerge --sync && emerge update was blocking packages. So I had to unmerge the blocking packages. Repeat this a few times and I was ready to go. emerge world... Went to bed, expecting a fresh updated system... No, I get errors about needing USE flags set to properly install some of the packages. OK a little more research and reading I update
So almost 48 hours later I had a fresh updated Gentoo box...
My opinion is this: emerge has many of the same issues that ANY other package management system has, it solves some of the problems that RPM and DEBS have but also has many problems of its own. Plus, on older systems it takes forever to compile and update everything for a negligable speed benefit... I'll take apt-get/yum/up2date any day over emerge for real production systems.
Gentoo is probably great for desktops on boxes that have lots of glowing lights, see-through panels and Type-R stickers, but probably not so great in production...