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Inkscape 0.44 - Faster, Bigger, Better

bbyakk writes "After 6 months of development, Inkscape 0.44 is out. This version of the SVG-based vector graphics editor brings improved performance and tons of new features: Layers dialog, docked color palette, clipping and masking, native PDF export with transparency, configurable keyboard (including Xara emulation), Outline mode for complex drawings, innovative 'node sculpting' and lots more. Check out the full release notes, enjoy the screenshots, or download your package for Windows, Linux or Mac OS X."

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  1. No Packages yet by vonFinkelstien · · Score: 4, Informative

    They are waiting to "officially" announce the release when the packages are ready. You can download the tarball now, however.

  2. i dunno by cimmer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Banner on the site says "Last stable version: 0.43". I'm a little nervous about putting my mission critical doodling on a new release.

    1. Re:i dunno by treeves · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've used it since 0.41 and have been using the development pre-0.44 releases, no problem, WinXP on a ThinkPad. Even 0.43 is pretty cool. 0.44 adds some more functionality. Try it. You'll like it. It looks like the guy who reported it is Bulia Byak, one of the main developers. It's one of the top downloads on sourceforge.net.

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  3. Firefox Users by timeOday · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Based on the screenshots, I thought the Inkscape font rendering looked really bad. Turns out, it's only because their screenshots are quite large and Firefox squishes them down to fit on the screen. Firefox ought to use some more sophisticated downsampling algorithm instead of simply discarding rows and columns of pixels, but there you go. If you move your cursor over the pictures and get a magnifying glass, click it to see the real quality of the Inkscape images.

    1. Re:Firefox Users by sankyuu · · Score: 2, Informative
      I find native SVG rendering on firefox interesting, for instance this graphic of the Uluru. I still find it cool that you can click on the picture to view its source.

      But since SVG needs the Adobe SVG plugin on IE, i usually draw my clipart in Inkscape or Sodipodi (i forgot which has better Japanese support) then export it to PNG.

    2. Re:Firefox Users by grammar+fascist · · Score: 5, Funny

      All they need to do is a Gaussian averaging kernel around the fractional pixel position they want to estimate the value of. It's not really hard.

      I might just code this up. It's been bugging me for years. With 3 Ghz machines, there's really no excuse.

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    3. Re:Firefox Users by Mekabyte · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Firefox 3 will have resampling since it uses Cairo for rendering. You can try out a nightly build to test that feature.

    4. Re:Firefox Users by mh101 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Open Preferences, then go to Advanced, and General. Uncheck "Resize large images..." and FF will no longer shrink the images.

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    5. Re:Firefox Users by grammar+fascist · · Score: 5, Funny

      I just got two Funny moderations. Was it this?

      All they need to do is a Gaussian averaging kernel around the fractional pixel position they want to estimate the value of. It's not really hard.

      I wasn't joking, this is exactly how you'd do it correctly. Is this gobbeldygook to your average Slashdotter? Have I been hiding in the lab too much? Is this what grad school does to you?

      I need to get out more, apparently.

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    6. Re:Firefox Users by njh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No idea why you got a funny, but gaussian isn't really the best choice. There are standard libraries that can do the right thing anyway (libmagick, libgdkpixbuf, etc) so perhaps you should just grab one of them and use that.

    7. Re:Firefox Users by MenTaLguY · · Score: 4, Informative

      Seconded -- bitmap transformation/scaling has been done to death these days. It'd be insane not to use one of the many existing libraries out there -- and indeed, Firefox 3 will be using cairo for that purpose.

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    8. Re:Firefox Users by dytin · · Score: 2, Informative

      Firefox's default is to resize images. I agree though, it's an annoying "feature" and I wish that it weren't the default, especially since they use such a crappy resize algorigthm.

    9. Re:Firefox Users by consonant · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Slashdot: Where the truth is funny, and the trolltalk is insightful ;)

    10. Re:Firefox Users by Bryce · · Score: 2, Informative

      That screenshot was made right after the word wrapping feature was implemented, and at the time it did have a tendancy to "lose" words around tight bends and such. There may still be a few glitches like this one in the word wrapping code, so please keep an eye out and report it (with sample file) where you find it.

    11. Re:Firefox Users by BusterB · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've been using the Firefox nightly build today (says it's 3.0a) - it supports smooth downsampling. The current Konqueror does too.

    12. Re:Firefox Users by Tack · · Score: 2, Informative
  4. Packages only availible on SourceForge by onlysolution · · Score: 5, Informative

    Be sure to use the link in the article to get the compiled packages, as the official site has not been updated with them yet.

    1. Re:Packages only availible on SourceForge by Bryce · · Score: 3, Informative

      'Tis updated now. We're still waiting on RPM and DEB packages. Gentoo users can get an ebuild here (if our wiki survives slashdot): http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/CompilingG entoo

  5. Re:Tried it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful
    What's the problem with the SVG it produces?

    It's not a Microsoft "standard". You've just responded to an astroturfer.

  6. Re:PDF Support by MenTaLguY · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have heard that this is the open source replacement for Adobe Acrobat.

    You heard wrong. :)

    We are going to continue to improve our PDF support, but it's not a central part of our mission. Also, whatever PDF support we have is going to be largely limited to that subset of PDF functionality which is representable in SVG.

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  7. Who's the genius? by TheModelEskimo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So...why announce the software when you can't even download the binaries for it yet? Somebody jumped the gun. Now, 85% of the /. comments are going to be "why is it just a source tarball? Open Source sucks!!!" ...sigh...

    If you want to try it out and you don't like compiling, wait another day for the official binaries, then give it a whirl - this Inkscape release really is that good. Very fast, excellent illustration tool. Congratulations to the dev team.

  8. I like plants by Joebert · · Score: 2, Informative

    I find the L-System Effects really intresting, I'll likely install the application just to play with thoose.

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    1. Re:I like plants by grammar+fascist · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I love Inkscape. I do CS research, and I use it for illustrations in slides and papers. Gradients, highlights, anti-aliasing and such really make diagrams stand out. It's not any more difficult to work with than Word's or OpenOffice's vector drawing tools, either.

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  9. Excellent. by hullabalucination · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've really enjoyed watching the progress of this app, along with Scribus and the GIMP. Inkscape has become one of the tools I use day in and day out (especially in conjunction with Scribus) and even though I can run older versions of CorelDraw and Illustrator on my FC5 box, I've really come to value Inkscape even though it doesn't have the collection of power tools that the Windows vector apps have (in all honesty, some of the "power tools" in those other guys are just imagesetter-chokers and you're better off leaving them be).

    Now that Krita supports CMYK tiff files (with color management) the day has pretty much dawned in which I no longer have to jump over to my lone remaining Windows box to do some sort of previously-necessary file format conversion.

  10. Re:PDF Support by Ray+Radlein · · Score: 3, Funny
    I have heard that this is the open source replacement for Adobe Acrobat.
    Actually, it is the open source replacement for Duke Nukem Forever. It's an understandable mistake.
  11. Screenshot of .44 in action by TheModelEskimo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Been using it for the past few days for a hobby project so I thought I'd post this. It shows the new layers and color palettes.

    http://www.friendlyskies.net.nyud.net:8080/inksc reen.png (Mind the space in the address)

    Sorry it's in KDE, seeing how Inkscape is GTK...at the moment Skype isn't working in Gnome, so... :(

    1. Re:Screenshot of .44 in action by Jesus_666 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sorry it's in KDE, seeing how Inkscape is GTK...at the moment Skype isn't working in Gnome, so... :(

      I have already contacted the seGregation ans Kapartheid teams. Their thug squads will arrive soon to make an example for why one should never, ever mix KDE and GTK apps of you.

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  12. Re:Tried it. by killjoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A subject of a cross platform open source SVG designer comes up and you reccomend a product that doesn't produce SVG, is proprietary and only runs on windows as an alternative?

    Come on now, give the astro turfing a rest.

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  13. Re:Tried it. by MenTaLguY · · Score: 3, Informative

    To be fair, most people never hand-edit AI files. It's more expected for SVG, though.

    Inkscape _does_ let you manually reassign ids if you don't like the autogenerated ones, however.

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  14. Re:Tried it. by SirSlud · · Score: 2, Insightful

    you wrote complex svg drawings in a simple xml editor? got a screen shot of this masterpiece?

    you link to an MS app that can't output to SVG in an article about an application that is for greating SVG graphics?

    I've been on slashdot for 8 years, and I never truely believed in astroturfing until your post.

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  15. Did anyone see this?!?! by RickBauls · · Score: 4, Interesting

    http://www.inkscape.org/screenshots/gallery/inksca pe-0.44-outlineview.png thats just purely... simply... insane! I wish I had enought time/patience to do something like that.

    1. Re:Did anyone see this?!?! by xerxesdaphat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'd say it was done with a graphics tablet, much like sketching with paper and pen, not placing each individual line with a mouse/keyboard. Still, seriously amazing... I've never been able to grasp drawing, not only can I not lay everything out in my head properly, but my hands shake and I can't draw lines with any consistency hahah. Perhaps why I never like to use the mouse if I can help it. Visual artists are sufficiently advanced that they're indistinguishable from magic to me ^_^.

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    2. Re:Did anyone see this?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's fairly simple in Inkscape. Just import your favorite picture and do a trace bitmap with multiple scanning, color.

    3. Re:Did anyone see this?!?! by Lehk228 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      try moving your hand using your arms not your wrist, i'm not very good at drawing but every time i see someone who it, they keep their wrist stiff and move their arm for most stuff

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    4. Re:Did anyone see this?!?! by ScislaC · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hehehehe... I can assure you that there was no bitmap tracing done whatsoever. My wife will confirm this as she watched me draw most of it from scratch (what she didn't watch was when I was on my lunch breaks at the office). I actually have a ton of progressional snapshots done during the creation, I need to string them together to show the process for people. It changed a LOT from beginning to end, and will change even more once we have SVG filters in place.

    5. Re:Did anyone see this?!?! by MenTaLguY · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes, that's exactly right. A lot of beginners try to draw mostly with their wrist and fingers, which doesn't work well and tires you out fast. Most practiced artists do a lot of their drawing motion from their upper arm/shoulder. Of course, you also have to draw larger for this to work well; beginners also tend to draw too small.

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    6. Re:Did anyone see this?!?! by kimvette · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That is great (as someone else mentioned obviously done with a graphics tablet) but it's an absolutely insane number of vector objects. Impressive that a free app can handle that complex of a document. :)

      When they (Inkscape) implement proper PDF and eps support, Adobe should really start to either fear open source, or embrace open source operating systems and port their creative suite to Linux before people start retraining themselves in other applications. Heck, they're starting to lose their competitive edge on PDF composition as kword matures. Inkscape's GUI is quirky but easily learned, and is fantastic for creating illustrations, so the need for Illustrator on Linux (and Windows, etc.) is beginning to fade.

      I really ought to start donating to open source products I use. As it is I buy distributions we use at my office, but the Inkscape/kword/gimp/etc. developers don't see a dime of what I pay Novell, Mandriva, etc. for the distributions.

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  16. Red arrows? by AxelBoldt · · Score: 2, Informative

    So is inkscape finally able to produce a red arrow with a red tip? Up to now it was impossible.

    1. Re:Red arrows? by TheModelEskimo · · Score: 4, Informative

      I just tried it. It works fine, and I'm sure it worked in previous versions as well:

      1. Create normal arrow
      2. Select the curve with the arrow point on it
      3. Ctrl+Alt+C or Path --> Stroke to Path
      4. Select the arrow tip in node selection mode and color it (both stroke and fill can be colored)
      5. Thank you, drive through please.

    2. Re:Red arrows? by _xeno_ · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Nope! The problem here is really the SVG spec, though, in that markers can't exactly inherit useful properties from the line they're being marked on.

      My reading of the marker section in the SVG spec says that "fill: inherit" and "stroke: inherit" should be cause the colors to inherit off the parent element.

      However: With arrow-heads, the arrow is being filled with a color, and the line is being stroked with a color. Even if Inkscape allowed markers to inherit stroke/fill properties from their parent, the best you could do is have a black arrow-head with a red line around it.

      Even so, it's still possible to create red arrows with a red tip, just not easily. First create your normal arrow and set the tip onto it. Note the name of the arrow head you used. Next open up the XML editor. (Yeah - we're heading into tech-land here.) At the very top of the tree there should be a node marked "svg:defs". Open this up, and find the "svg:marker" element that has the same ID listed as the arrow head you used.

      Click on it and then click the "duplicate node" button (it's the third from the left on the toolbar). You'll now have a new marker with a new, weird ID. You can edit the ID to be something like "red arrow head" or something useful.

      Anyway, click on the "svg:path" element located within the "svg:marker" element. Click on the "style" attribute listed in the right pane. Edit the "fill" attribute listed below, changing it to match the color value of the line you want to use. Press Control-Enter to commit this change.

      Then, finally, select your original arrow in the document. This will highlight the node for the path. Edit the style attribute here and change the appropriate "marker" element to point to the new ID of your new arrow head.

      You may now optionally curse both Inkscape for making the process this boneheaded and the SVG spec for offering no way to suggest that maybe, just maybe, a marker might want to be filled with the same color the path it's being placed on was stroked with.

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  17. Illustrator by Compuser · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Can someone post a detailed comparison of features between Inkscape and Illustrator.
    Which features are still missing (aside from PDF capabilities)?

    1. Re:Illustrator by AC-x · · Score: 3, Informative

      wrong wrong WRONG!

      SVG does support CMYK

      It would have been a hideous omission not to include it in the standard, they'd never get anyone working in print to use SVGs without it.

    2. Re:Illustrator by t_allardyce · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I major feature that was missing is non-destructive shape unions, intersections and differences. These are in the pathfinder feature of Illustrator and they are pretty much a staple of any serious illustration work. I think it might kind-of be in Inkscape in this release but im not sure.

      Next major feature is an effects stack which is needed in GIMP too. Both GIMP and Inkscape have really suffered from the lack of any dynamic non-destructive editing features and separation of various effects and styles from content - these are the way forward and things Photoshop and Illustrator users have had for years, you just cant seriously live without them and its a shame because non-destructive editing and separating content from style is really something the OS world embraces - obviously these two projects feel they have more important things to do, which is why no-one seriously uses either of them.

      Just to give you an idea, Photoshop drop-shadow has single-handidly changed the entire web and graphic design fashion for nearly a decade, you can take any layer and add drop shadow - tweak the settings and then go back and change it any time you want, this combines with other effects to make an effects stack that is dynamically applied to layers and objects - this is a very simple principle and is so so incredibly vital I cant even begin to stress how much.

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    3. Re:Illustrator by Wylfing · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Can someone post a detailed comparison of features between Inkscape and Illustrator. Which features are still missing (aside from PDF capabilities)?

      I am not exactly an art guru, but I do use both Inkscape and Illustrator all the time. The three things that have historically bugged me most about Inkscape have been the huge difficulty of locking/unlocking objects, the poor import/export of EPS and PDF, and the inability to add custom colors and gradients onto the swatch palette (I use that in Illustrator a lot to save and reuse colors and gradients). Actually, the editing of gradients is really clunky in Inkscape, so I guess that is another thing that bugs me.

      I don't want to paint an overly grim picture of Inkscape, though. It's really quite good, and I am very eager to get my hands on this new version (but I'll wait for the debs).

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    4. Re:Illustrator by bbyakk · · Score: 3, Informative

      > I major feature that was missing is non-destructive shape unions, intersections and differences.

      Non-destructive intersection is now possible, it's called clipping. Other types are not supported by SVG.

      > Next major feature is an effects stack

      We're working on that. Hopefully 0.45 will have this.

    5. Re:Illustrator by bbyakk · · Score: 3, Informative

      One possibility is to wait for newer versions of SVG. Many good things are being added.

      Another possibility is to implement something on top of SVG but in SVG-compatible way. For example, this is how we implement star shapes missing in SVG. This is not always possible, and even when it is, we do this only if it's something simple and limited (i.e. would not require pervasive changes across all of our codebase) or when the need for the feature is really very urgent. I may be wrong but to me, non-destructive unions or intersections do not seem to fall into any of these categories.

      On the other hand, we have plans to implement "path effects" (non-destructive effects on shapes and paths) on top of SVG. This is relatively easy to do. Plus, in 0.45 we should have support for SVG filters, thanks to Google SoC.

    6. Re:Illustrator by Bryce · · Score: 2, Informative
      The three things that have historically bugged me most about Inkscape have been the huge difficulty of locking/unlocking objects, the poor import/export of EPS and PDF, and the inability to add custom colors and gradients onto the swatch palette.

      One of our top development priorities for 0.44 was a layer dialog; hopefully this will make doing things like locking/unlocking objects somewhat easier.

      According to beta testers, due to a few fixes that were submitted by users, EPS and PDF are working more reliably, at least for common cases. Please submit bugs for any remaining issues - we have a summer of code student that will be focusing on improvements in this area for Inkscape.

      The color palette is now dockable (one of the more noticeable changes), and it is also possible to bring in palettes from the GIMP (*.gpl files - place in your /usr/share/inkscape/palettes/ directory). More work is planned along these lines for the next release.

  18. Re:Damnit, Slashdotted in the middle of the night by msloan · · Score: 5, Informative
    Many crashes have been fixed in this version. As for the release notes, I can access them.

    Verbatim from the wiki:

    Speed

    In addition to the Outline mode which makes it much easier to work with complex drawings, this version of Inkscape also provides significant speed improvements in many areas.
    • Thanks to optimizations in the renderer, Inkscape's screen redraw is faster by at least 10%, and in some cases (such as complex stroked/dashed paths at high zooms) up to three times faster.
    • Optimizations in the Node tool resulted in noticeable speed gains for node editing. Thus, switching to and from the Node tool (with a path selected), as well as selecting nodes in that tool, are now at least ten times faster than before. Other operations, including curve and node dragging and move/scale/rotate operations on multiple selected nodes, are much faster as well. This is especially important when working with complex paths; with these optimizations, paths containing several thousand nodes, though still slow, are much more usable.
    • An optimization in the attribute setting method made operations such as moving multiple objects with arrow keys at least 30% faster compared to 0.43. This is especially noticeable when you are moving clones selected together with their original (e.g. a clone tiling), in which case Inkscape now works three to four times faster.
    • Interface icons are now rendered in the background (from SVG source in share/icons/icons.svg) when Inkscape is idle, rather than waiting for all the icons in a menu to render the first time you pull it up. This eliminates the annoying delay when opening menus for the first time.
    • Previously, zooming in to view a small portion of a path (especially big and complex path), there was a very noticeable slowdown and memory use increased dramatically. We optimized the renderer to only process the visible part of a path, and as a result the rendering speed is now almost the same at any zoom up to the maximum, providing up to 10-40 times speedup compared to the previous version (the closer is the zoom, the greater is the gain).
    • The Path > Break Apart command is now dozens of times (up to 100x) faster for complex paths with thousands of subpaths.

    bugfixes

    • Reading a document with an incorrect namespace URI not only did not cause Inkscape to complain, but could also "pollute" Inkscape's internal namespace table, resulting in an "infection" of subsequently saved documents by the incorrect namespace. This is now fixed, but as a result, documents with incorrect namespace URIs will no longer load. You will have to edit them in a text editor to fix the namespaces.
    • With newer versions of GTK, dragging with graphics tablet pen did not work in some tools and contexts (in particular, in Node and Rectangle tools). This is fixed.
    • Scaling of objects with stroke in Selector used to cause undesired shifts of the scaled object, as well as scaling it in the dimension which was intended to remain untouched (e.g. slight change in width when you scale only height). All these problems are now fixed, both for interactive scaling by mouse and for numeric scaling via the Controls bar, and for both values of the "Scale stroke with objects" option. Among other things, this means that stroked objects no longer lose snapping on scale, and that the "Default scale origin" option in the Selector tool preferences finally works as designed. Caveat: There may still be problems if you scale a selection that contains objects with different stroke widths.
    • Scaling of stroke now works for objects that didn't specify stroke-width; before, they always ended up with the default 1px stroke.
    • The bounding box for text and flowed text objects did not include stroke width. This has been fixed.
    • Stroke miterlimit on text objects was misinterpreted in absolute units instead of multiplies of stroke width (resulting in miter joins rendered as bevel).
    • The
  19. Re:Memory usage dialog by MenTaLguY · · Score: 4, Informative

    (Speaking as the person who wrote the memory dialog)

    There's a memory leak in the memory dialog's treeview widget. I've not been able to track it down yet (it may be a gtkmm issue), but I think your guess is roughly correct.

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  20. Ink Question by Monkelectric · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Could Inkscape be used to generate art for a videogame? Are there any libraries to render this stuff?

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    1. Re:Ink Question by MenTaLguY · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, and yes. It's been done, too -- just off the top of my head, there's Monsterz, but there are other games using SVG graphics as well. Since SVG supports scripting via Javascript (given appropriate browser support), some people have even written games for the web in SVG directly. Browser support isn't widespread enough to make a Flash-killer yet, but if you're just rendering graphics for your own traditional game engine SVG graphics are certainly an option today.

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    2. Re:Ink Question by Lehk228 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      if you process the vecor images into raster images during install, you can allow the game to be scaled up to indefinite high resolutions by the end user just by clicking a button

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  21. Re:PDF Support by MenTaLguY · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've never used Acrobat, so I wouldn't know what to suggest. Depending on your needs, e.g. pdftk may fit the bill. Generally it's better to look at the features you need and then search for a tool based on that, rather than looking for a 1:1 replacement for a particular application.

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  22. Re: game art by mughi · · Score: 2, Informative
    Could Inkscape be used to generate art for a videogame?

    Yes. Depends on what and how you're planning to do things. The GNOME games migrated to SVG artwork quite a while back.

    Another approach is to create your artwork in SVG and then render to bitmap at different sizes. This mirrors a lot of the workflow used for creating icons.

    Are there any libraries to render this stuff?

    As far as libraries go, there are librsvg and KSVG for a start. For other gaming needs, one can do some interesting things with SVG and XHTML in a browser with a little JavaScript sprinkled in.

  23. Re:Tried it. by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 2, Insightful
    you wrote complex svg drawings in a simple xml editor? got a screen shot of this masterpiece?

    Nope. I wrote simple svg in an xml editor and previewed it in Batik while writing. Why? Because Inkscape produced rather odd and bloated code that made it hard to understand just by reading the xml. Maybe this new version has better output, I havn't used it for a few months. I'm not expecting perfection, but for simple stuff it's reasonable to expect Inkscape (or anything else) to produce readable output.

    you link to an MS app that can't output to SVG in an article about an application that is for greating SVG graphics?
    I've been on slashdot for 8 years, and I never truely believed in astroturfing until your post.

    I mention a alternative I found better for vector graphics, and even caveated that it doesn't support SVG and that is what sucks about it. It's called "discussion". Feel free to bring your own alternatives and experiences to the table. But because I mention a Microsoft product in good light I must be trolling, right? FYI, Expression was a Creature House product. MS only recently acquired it.

  24. Re:Tried it. by msloan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Man, and I thought I was perfectionistic. You could have put all that effort into doing a little coding to make inkscape output what you'd like. It probably wouldn't be that bad. The optimizer someone was working on (to remove unused gradients etc) might have made it into .44, I'm not sure.

  25. Terrible summary by Tim+Browse · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seriously, what's up with the summary? It explains what Inkscape is, so you don't have to go and find out, tells you what's happened, gives you information about the new features, has useful links for stuff that is relevant and that you might be interested in as a result.

    This is not what I'm used to on slashdot.

    Where are the editors?!

  26. Inkscape versus Xara? by Peturrr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Since Xara has been opensourced and is freely available on Linux, the question arises: which is better? Is there really a big difference between them in terms of speed, features etc? Which one do you recommend?

    1. Re:Inkscape versus Xara? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
      Xara still isn't in widespread use, if at all. Releasing source code is one thing, getting it to compile cleanly accross the board is something else and I suspect they are still some way from a stable release.

      Inkscape is very good, especially so for pre 1.0 software. I previously used sodipodi extensively and was pretty worried about the inkscape fork, specifically the move to C++ and use of GC. Inkscape could have gone horribly wrong, fortunately the developers are delivering. Kudos and much thanks to them, it's a great app.

      COMPLETELY OT: Does anybody know what happened to apng, the backwards compatible animated PNG spec proposed by the Mozilla guys? It was Vlad and Pav working on that IIRC and the big issue for the PNG folk was that the mime type should be x-video/png instead of image/png (rolls eyes - apparently animated images are videos now).

  27. Donation? by biscon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Since this thread is being read by at least one of the developers, I want to say: thanks guys, you rock!.
    I have recently founded a company with a few friends and Inkscape 0.44 came just in time, to address some issues
    we were having editing large SVG's in 0.43. We badly needed the optimisations to the rendering engine as well
    as outline mode.

    We hope to make money on our product in a few months and would like to know if you take donations?.

    Giving something in return for your excellent work would be nice, but we could not find the usual donation link on your site.

    Anyway great work and thanks a lot :)

  28. GIMP by metamatic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just wish the Inkscape developers could redesign the UI of GIMP...

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  29. Re:I call bullshit by MenTaLguY · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hmm, what did you think we meant by "node sculpting"? It's basically proportional node dragging with a pressure-sensitive falloff radius. You do find that in the mesh editors of a lot of 3d apps, but as far as I know it's the first time I've seen it in a 2d vector application.

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  30. Re:Glow Effect? by MenTaLguY · · Score: 2, Informative

    For now, you can sort of tediously fake it with a lot of transparent gradients -- otherwise, you'll have to wait for 0.45 to implement SVG filter effects, which are basically a whole suite of dynamic raster effects. I don't think any other vector application will have anything like it.

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  31. Re:Is the mega SVG file size solved in this releas by MenTaLguY · · Score: 2, Informative

    Have you tried saving as "Inkscape SVGZ" rather than "Inkscape SVG"? Raw SVG, being an XML dialect, is kinda verbose, so there's only so much we can do about that. SVGZ is gzip-compressed SVG, which is (slightly) more reasonable in filesize.

    All that said, 20 MB is unusually large in my experience. What exactly do you have in mind when you say "medium-size"?

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  32. Re:CMYK by mughi · · Score: 3, Informative

    wrong wrong WRONG!

    SVG does support CMYK

    Actually, at the moment SVG doesn't support CMYK. However it is proposed that it will at some point. What you cited there was the proposed draft requirements from over four years ago. I think they might be getting close to finally putting 1.2 out, but even in the last rounds of finalizing SVG 1.1 they dropped things, so one mustn't count one's chickens before they're hatched.

    In fact, back in April of 2005 they pulled back their draft 1.2 spec and replaced it with a simple placeholder stating that things were in flux. So we're all now just sitting, waiting with baited breath.