tom@ubuntu:/tmp$/bin/env python bash:/bin/env: No such file or directory tom@ubuntu:/tmp$/bin/en tom@ubuntu:/tmp$ ls/bin/e*/bin/echo/bin/ed/bin/egrep tom@ubuntu:/tmp$ whereis env env:/usr/bin/env/usr/share/man/man1/env.1.gz
You must be joking! I'm an Aucklander who lived in Brisbane for many years (back home for the past couple though), and Queensland, above all places, needs DST the most. The sun -- the big, bright equatorial sun -- comes up at ridiculous times of the morning (4.30am or 5am or so), and unlike Auckland, there's no hills or trees or heavy winter curtains on your windows to hide it.
Once the working day is finished, you think you'd like to partake in that great Antipodean tradition, the barbecue in the park with your mates. Only problem is, *bam*, with not even a lick of twilight, the sun disappears within half an hour when 6pm or so rolls around.
Queensland needs to bump forward an entire time zone.
In Auckland, we've got the time sorted -- shame about the weather then ^_^
I'm a `programmer user', and when I'm not using OpenBox, I'm firmly in the Gnome camp. Why? It keeps out of my way. I do all my work from the terminal, anyway. Very rarely do I interact with the desktop environment, even to launch programs. I don't need any of the GUI flexibility that KDE offers; it makes its presence felt.
In general I find the reverse of what you say. It seems to be the more GUI, desktop-bound `ordinary users' that prefer KDE; the more advanced/programmer users mostly prefer Gnome or go even further down the keep-out-of-my-way path by using Fluxbox/Openbox etc.
I use OpenBox myself, but in terms of a low-memory, fast and low-dependency Alt-F2 program, you can't go past gmrun (http://www.bazon.net/mishoo/gmrun.epl). It's in the Debian/Ubuntu repositories. Basically just a text field, nothing more, but hides a little bit of complexity -- tab-completion for executables and files, bash-style Ctrl-R history searching, lots more stuff.
I think that's because Australia (and NZ, where I am now after being in Brisbane for a wee while) is even further down the text end of the call->text continuum. As far as I've noticed, Americans seem to be very averse to text messaging. Japanese probably far more text friendly, but not as high ratio as we Australasians.
It's the proper spelling, you daft twat. `Oriented' is just a variant spelling popular in US `English' -- use `orientated' if you don't want to look foolish everywhere else.
You, sir, are a genius. Notice it links straight to Sourceforge's terms of service? In fact, the word `sourceforge.com' is written right next the link, in usual Slashdot style.
Why would you believe it's anything other than a troll in the first place?
Heh. I have almost six different versions of Rachmaninov's 24 preludes for piano (missing a couple from the 6th set). If I heard another performance of any of those preludes, I'd be confident of picking out one that I've heard before.
But then again I really, really like Rachmaninov ^_^
See but this is the point. I wear a helmet always, a leather jacket, boots, and always my gloves. My government only requires me to wear the helmet -- yet I wear all this other stuff too. Even if they didn't ask me to wear the helmet I'd wear it anyway. Three days after I got my first bike I had a crash that I walked away from because of wearing a full-face helmet and leather jacket.
However, I don't think helmets should be compulsory. Sure, it's hard on the ambulance guys (one told me that when they scrape bikers off the road it's easier if they wear helmets, because all the mess stays inside the helmet), but do I really need to be protected from myself? This is probably one of the only things I like about the USA compared to my NZ home -- NZ tends to be a bit of a nanny welfare state. I should have the right to do dumb shit if I want.
Also, how the fuck does wearing an iPod make me more likely to kill myself crossing the road? Should we ban deaf people from crossing the road too? Or builders with earplugs in?
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I think that's probably a big part of why I typically only have a couple of windows open - Firefox + terminal (used to be a music player until I got my iPod and could offload that task from the computer). I grew up with C64s and DOS so didn't really adapt to multitasking for a long time. You just become accustomed to working on one thing at a time and being careful to tidy up after yourself. I still only work on one thing at a time but open up other windows (e.g. PDFs with APIs relevant to the code I'm working on etc.) devoted to the one task I'm working on.
I think it's a good practice; instead of being some crazed ritalin-drugged loony who skims madly through every single Firefox tab they have open, briefly absorbing a tiny bit of information, you can work on something more in-depth. I was like that at school, when writing down stuff from the board I would try and remember as much as I could before putting pen to paper, therefore minimising board-to-paper switching overhead. [Did I just say that with a straight face?].
Just as in the days of my Amiga, and you with your Win3.1, I think we just prefer the performance gains by keeping things minimal. While the technology means there's less computer performance loss, the loss is still there, and on top of that there is still the human efficiency loss caused by having to locate exactly what Firefox tab of what Firefox window of what virtual desktop that paragraph was in, or by madly Alt-Tabbing (or, god help us, having to pick up the mouse) in order to find the window you need.
Like you, I typically only have Firefox and a terminal open. When I'm coding, I use a couple of terminals -- one for compiling/moving/miscellaneous and viewing the inevitable pages of error messages, and one for vi. In all areas of my life I tend to focus my concentration on one particular thing at a time. Computing is no exception. I have gmail notifiers and gaim popup windows to do the other jobs for me.
O/T: If you have, as you say, `firefox XOR a terminal open, sometimes both', then by definition you do not have firefox XOR a terminal open if sometimes you have both ^_^. You mean you have firefox or a terminal open. `Or' is inclusive unless otherwise specified:P.
Irrelevant. Software sources are already set up, out of the box. Add/Remove is just a front end for apt-get, like aptitude or synaptic.
Besides, even if they were installing *.debs they'd downloaded of the internet (how often do you have to do that these days?), I think most people are capable of selecting which operating system they're running. Under Windows you often have to choose which version, 98/ME/2K/XP, you are running in order to download the correct version of the software.
Ubuntu has the same system where all old kernels are still available from GRUB. Hell, I can boot the original kernel that came with Hoary Hedgehog, and anything in-between. It's quite a good idea I think, I've managed to get by through things like lack of 3D acceleration (because of a restricted-drivers package not being updated at the same time as the kernel) through this feature.
Yeah, me too; using a tricky custom wireless card, quite a few non-standard repositories, and the one that I thought would really screw it up, which is Beryl (Compiz) + AIGLX + custom libmesa libraries. Worked perfectly. I started freaking out though, on boot, when it took aaaages to go through the loading screen. Eventually it switched to text mode and I saw that the filesystem had chosen this precise boot to do a full fsck. Arse. Oh well, it works perfectly. I would say a good chunk of the problems people are having are do to non-standard repositories and hand-installed software and aliened packages. You can't really expect those configurations to update perfectly.
I dunno about switching naming schemes starting with the Pentium... I remember my parents having a brand-new Windows 95 box with a Pentium 75MHz, and there were several pre-installed desktop backgrounds (installed by the computer vendor, but they were from Intel). They were all futuristic outer-space graphics of nebulas and moons with big colourful 3D text saying things like `i586' and `80586' `Intel Inside' and stuff like that.
Not really, they could use the same thing they use when you `lock' your iPod -- the pseudo-bank-vault interface where you choose a 4-digit numerical password. It's not too hard or slow to use.
Lol you tit. I'm listening to my 30gig Video right now plugged into my Dapper laptop via USB. Either you, via a shell, type `eject $IPODMOUNTPOINT' or you (if you have the desktop icon), right-click on it and hit `eject'. Then the thing will charge but let you use the thing as well. FYI you can do the same thing via iTunes if you're using OS X or Windows.
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Ubuntu 8.04:
tom@ubuntu:/tmp$ /bin/env python /bin/env: No such file or directory /bin/en /bin/e* /bin/echo /bin/ed /bin/egrep /usr/bin/env /usr/share/man/man1/env.1.gz
bash:
tom@ubuntu:/tmp$
tom@ubuntu:/tmp$ ls
tom@ubuntu:/tmp$ whereis env
env:
Bugger. Is it really POSIX?
You must be joking! I'm an Aucklander who lived in Brisbane for many years (back home for the past couple though), and Queensland, above all places, needs DST the most. The sun -- the big, bright equatorial sun -- comes up at ridiculous times of the morning (4.30am or 5am or so), and unlike Auckland, there's no hills or trees or heavy winter curtains on your windows to hide it.
Once the working day is finished, you think you'd like to partake in that great Antipodean tradition, the barbecue in the park with your mates. Only problem is, *bam*, with not even a lick of twilight, the sun disappears within half an hour when 6pm or so rolls around.
Queensland needs to bump forward an entire time zone.
In Auckland, we've got the time sorted -- shame about the weather then ^_^
I'm a `programmer user', and when I'm not using OpenBox, I'm firmly in the Gnome camp. Why? It keeps out of my way. I do all my work from the terminal, anyway. Very rarely do I interact with the desktop environment, even to launch programs. I don't need any of the GUI flexibility that KDE offers; it makes its presence felt.
In general I find the reverse of what you say. It seems to be the more GUI, desktop-bound `ordinary users' that prefer KDE; the more advanced/programmer users mostly prefer Gnome or go even further down the keep-out-of-my-way path by using Fluxbox/Openbox etc.
I use OpenBox myself, but in terms of a low-memory, fast and low-dependency Alt-F2 program, you can't go past gmrun (http://www.bazon.net/mishoo/gmrun.epl). It's in the Debian/Ubuntu repositories. Basically just a text field, nothing more, but hides a little bit of complexity -- tab-completion for executables and files, bash-style Ctrl-R history searching, lots more stuff.
I think that's because Australia (and NZ, where I am now after being in Brisbane for a wee while) is even further down the text end of the call->text continuum. As far as I've noticed, Americans seem to be very averse to text messaging. Japanese probably far more text friendly, but not as high ratio as we Australasians.
All correct, spot-on. Worth noting that even the newer, latest versions of the iPod have hardware MP3 codec chips. My 5G Video has a Wolfson WM8758.
It's the proper spelling, you daft twat. `Oriented' is just a variant spelling popular in US `English' -- use `orientated' if you don't want to look foolish everywhere else.
That starts with `d'.
You, sir, are a genius. Notice it links straight to Sourceforge's terms of service? In fact, the word `sourceforge.com' is written right next the link, in usual Slashdot style.
Why would you believe it's anything other than a troll in the first place?
Put it on a BIG reel, then just wind it up :D
This whole scheme reminds me of kite fishing.
Relevance to this discussion, and to the general thrust of his post? Absolutely nothing.
Neat, but can it perform cunnilingus on a hardwood floor?
Heh. I have almost six different versions of Rachmaninov's 24 preludes for piano (missing a couple from the 6th set). If I heard another performance of any of those preludes, I'd be confident of picking out one that I've heard before.
But then again I really, really like Rachmaninov ^_^
I'm no critic, though.
http://infosthetics.com/
Not always science stuff, but lots of cool examples of data visualisation. Updated very regularly.
See but this is the point. I wear a helmet always, a leather jacket, boots, and always my gloves. My government only requires me to wear the helmet -- yet I wear all this other stuff too. Even if they didn't ask me to wear the helmet I'd wear it anyway. Three days after I got my first bike I had a crash that I walked away from because of wearing a full-face helmet and leather jacket.
However, I don't think helmets should be compulsory. Sure, it's hard on the ambulance guys (one told me that when they scrape bikers off the road it's easier if they wear helmets, because all the mess stays inside the helmet), but do I really need to be protected from myself? This is probably one of the only things I like about the USA compared to my NZ home -- NZ tends to be a bit of a nanny welfare state. I should have the right to do dumb shit if I want.
Also, how the fuck does wearing an iPod make me more likely to kill myself crossing the road? Should we ban deaf people from crossing the road too? Or builders with earplugs in?
I think that's probably a big part of why I typically only have a couple of windows open - Firefox + terminal (used to be a music player until I got my iPod and could offload that task from the computer). I grew up with C64s and DOS so didn't really adapt to multitasking for a long time. You just become accustomed to working on one thing at a time and being careful to tidy up after yourself. I still only work on one thing at a time but open up other windows (e.g. PDFs with APIs relevant to the code I'm working on etc.) devoted to the one task I'm working on.
I think it's a good practice; instead of being some crazed ritalin-drugged loony who skims madly through every single Firefox tab they have open, briefly absorbing a tiny bit of information, you can work on something more in-depth. I was like that at school, when writing down stuff from the board I would try and remember as much as I could before putting pen to paper, therefore minimising board-to-paper switching overhead. [Did I just say that with a straight face?].
Just as in the days of my Amiga, and you with your Win3.1, I think we just prefer the performance gains by keeping things minimal. While the technology means there's less computer performance loss, the loss is still there, and on top of that there is still the human efficiency loss caused by having to locate exactly what Firefox tab of what Firefox window of what virtual desktop that paragraph was in, or by madly Alt-Tabbing (or, god help us, having to pick up the mouse) in order to find the window you need.
Like you, I typically only have Firefox and a terminal open. When I'm coding, I use a couple of terminals -- one for compiling/moving/miscellaneous and viewing the inevitable pages of error messages, and one for vi. In all areas of my life I tend to focus my concentration on one particular thing at a time. Computing is no exception. I have gmail notifiers and gaim popup windows to do the other jobs for me.
:P.
O/T: If you have, as you say, `firefox XOR a terminal open, sometimes both', then by definition you do not have firefox XOR a terminal open if sometimes you have both ^_^. You mean you have firefox or a terminal open. `Or' is inclusive unless otherwise specified
It's been there at least since Dapper, possibly before.
Irrelevant. Software sources are already set up, out of the box. Add/Remove is just a front end for apt-get, like aptitude or synaptic.
Besides, even if they were installing *.debs they'd downloaded of the internet (how often do you have to do that these days?), I think most people are capable of selecting which operating system they're running. Under Windows you often have to choose which version, 98/ME/2K/XP, you are running in order to download the correct version of the software.
Lol. I don't think that word means what you think it means...
`Bollocks', not log-hauling-bovines...
Ubuntu has the same system where all old kernels are still available from GRUB. Hell, I can boot the original kernel that came with Hoary Hedgehog, and anything in-between. It's quite a good idea I think, I've managed to get by through things like lack of 3D acceleration (because of a restricted-drivers package not being updated at the same time as the kernel) through this feature.
Yeah, me too; using a tricky custom wireless card, quite a few non-standard repositories, and the one that I thought would really screw it up, which is Beryl (Compiz) + AIGLX + custom libmesa libraries. Worked perfectly. I started freaking out though, on boot, when it took aaaages to go through the loading screen. Eventually it switched to text mode and I saw that the filesystem had chosen this precise boot to do a full fsck. Arse. Oh well, it works perfectly. I would say a good chunk of the problems people are having are do to non-standard repositories and hand-installed software and aliened packages. You can't really expect those configurations to update perfectly.
I dunno about switching naming schemes starting with the Pentium... I remember my parents having a brand-new Windows 95 box with a Pentium 75MHz, and there were several pre-installed desktop backgrounds (installed by the computer vendor, but they were from Intel). They were all futuristic outer-space graphics of nebulas and moons with big colourful 3D text saying things like `i586' and `80586' `Intel Inside' and stuff like that.
Not really, they could use the same thing they use when you `lock' your iPod -- the pseudo-bank-vault interface where you choose a 4-digit numerical password. It's not too hard or slow to use.
Lol you tit. I'm listening to my 30gig Video right now plugged into my Dapper laptop via USB. Either you, via a shell, type `eject $IPODMOUNTPOINT' or you (if you have the desktop icon), right-click on it and hit `eject'. Then the thing will charge but let you use the thing as well. FYI you can do the same thing via iTunes if you're using OS X or Windows.