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1st Heinlein Prize Awarded

baxissimo writes "The first ever Heinlein prize for Advances in Space Commercialization is going to be awarded to Dr. Peter H. Diamandis, for various activities including his efforts as Founder and Chairman of the Ansari X Prize. The prize is a cool 1/2 million USD plus a few other nifty trinkets -- a gold Heinlein Medallion, the Lady Vivamus Sword (as described in Heinlein's book Glory Road) and a Laureate's Diploma. The award ceremony will be held in Houston, July 7, 2006. This prize has been around a good while (since Heinlein's death in 1988?) with no awardees. Hopefully this will make the existence of the prize a little more widely known, and help spur further developments like the X Prize."

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  1. Space commercialization? by daniil · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is this like selling air?

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    1. Re:Space commercialization? by GundamFan · · Score: 3, Funny

      No more like selling airplanes... You can have all the free space you want (remember to hold your breath). Me? I'm going to pay for a seat on the spaceship (with things like air and heat) if I go.

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    2. Re:Space commercialization? by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Get on the plane, get on the plane... I tell them FUCK YOU, I'm getting in the plane. Let Evel Knievel get ON the plane!"

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    3. Re:Space commercialization? by Eric+S.+Smith · · Score: 3, Funny

      “space commercialization”:

      Is this like selling air?

      That could be the “Gillette” business model, sure. Send ’em up for cheap, and then ding ’em for the oxygen and the CO2 scrubbers. A little less transparently exploitative than the more obvious launch-for-free-and-charge-for-re-entry scam.

  2. The perfect lady by neonprimetime · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is a must see ... the Lady Vivamus Sword

    1. Re:The perfect lady by celardore · · Score: 4, Funny

      [Insert cutting remark here]

    2. Re:The perfect lady by coaxeus · · Score: 1

      ahh reflectoporn

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    3. Re:The perfect lady by muellerr1 · · Score: 2, Funny
      [snip]
      "...cutting remark here."
      Any way you slice it, it's still Slashdot.
    4. Re:The perfect lady by Agripa · · Score: 1

      What's your point?

    5. Re:The perfect lady by jamstar7 · · Score: 1

      On top of my head, covered in fur. Oh, wait, you said WHAT's my point, not WHERE. My bad.

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    6. Re:The perfect lady by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      > ahh reflectoporn

      But what about the Heinlein Award for Sexually Perverse Fantasies Involving Your Own Mother?

      Ok, if my mom looked like that, I'd probably have cranked out more than a couple while she sunbathed, too.

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  3. You'd think... by Cleon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You'd think with a Heinlein prize, the award would be a giant gold breast. ;)

    But on a serious note, I'm glad this prize is out there. Aside from the usual flamewar about private industry versus government-driven research, it seems to me the more people/companies/organizations/entities that are trying to get into space, the faster our species as a whole will get off this rock and start exploring the universe.

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    1. Re:You'd think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      it seems to me the more people/companies/organizations/entities that are trying to get into space, the faster our species as a whole will get off this rock and start exploring the universe.

      From this moment on, you will be known as Mister Obvious.

    2. Re:You'd think... by wish+bot · · Score: 1

      You'd think that they could skim a bit of that prize money off to work on their web site before they get excited about our species exploring the universe.

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    3. Re:You'd think... by Cleon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, but you may refer to me as "Lord Obvious, Commander of the Conspicuous, Master of the Manifest, and Realizer of the Recognizable."

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    4. Re:You'd think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Yes, but you may refer to me as "Lord Obvious, Commander of the Conspicuous, Master of the Manifest, and Realizer of the Recognizable.""

      So you're not the Ejaculator of the Evident?

      nor the Orator of the Opaque?

      Sir Says-What-He-Sees, Stater of the Self-evident?

    5. Re:You'd think... by AndroidCat · · Score: 2

      Why not give him a spacesuit? ('cause you just never know...)

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    6. Re:You'd think... by chiok · · Score: 2, Funny

      You'd think with a Heinlein prize, the award would be a giant gold breast. ;)

      I think you meant "the award would be time travelling back to when your mom was still hot."

    7. Re:You'd think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunatly, I don't get this. Can someone explain it?

    8. Re:You'd think... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Robby liked the girls. All his male protagonists are suave with the ladies, like James Bond in outer space.

      Heck, in some of his later works, he dances around, then finally gets it on with his momma after going back in time. Of course, if my momma was a hot redhead with waist-length hair and a hip to waist ratio a supermodel only dreams of, I might feel differently too.

      It occurs to me, was his momma a long-haired redhead in real life?

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  4. So Good! by bepolite · · Score: 3, Funny

    I just hope after this Dr. Peter H. Diamandis remembers TINSTAAFL! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TINSTAAFL

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    1. Re:So Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TINSTAAFL?? That's a new one on me. Always thought it was TANSTAAFL!

    2. Re:So Good! by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Oooo, the AC is quite right. For Heinlein, it was TANSTAFFL...It was later grammar snobs that culled the double negative out of it.

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    3. Re:So Good! by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Informative

      "TANSTAFFL"? Is that a "fine" free lunch?

      The funny thing is that bepolite has instantly marked himself as a poser by linking to "TINSTAAFL" - which actually goes to "TANSTAAFL", especially given the link text. If he'd even read the article he linked to, he'd have known how it actually went.

      I guess people DO know you're a dog on the internet.

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    4. Re:So Good! by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 1

      Hah. Woops. I just copy pasted the AC's version without double checking it. It should, of course, be TANSTAAFL: "There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch"

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  5. That was fast by bgfay · · Score: 1

    There are only a half dozen comments or so and the site is already down. Bummer.

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    1. Re:That was fast by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 2, Funny
      There are only a half dozen comments or so and the site is already down. Bummer.

      I actually saw the web-site before it went down. IMHO, It was a pretty poor design and we are all better off without it.

  6. that sounds like a cool sword by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Lady Vivamus Sword? Can I order one of those? I ordered the dungeonmaster's blade from an advert in Perfect 10 magazine, but I've never seen the Lady Vivamus sword...

    I have a pretty extensive collection of swords on my wall.

    1. Re:that sounds like a cool sword by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but I've never seen the Lady Vivamus sword

      see it

    2. Re:that sounds like a cool sword by Medievalist · · Score: 2, Funny
      I have a pretty extensive collection of swords on my wall.
      Well, it's a cav saber, so unless you've got some fairly uncommon skills the wall is where it belongs.
  7. Let me get this straight... by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...this is a prize for offering a prize?

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    1. Re:Let me get this straight... by spezz · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...this is a prize for offering a prize?

      Exactly. And now that the first Heinlein prize has been handed out, the first Alfred Bester Award for excellence in the field of distributing the first Heinlein Prize can be given out as well.

    2. Re:Let me get this straight... by mkw87 · · Score: 1

      This is all coordinated through the organization of Department of Reduncancy Department's (TM) arrangement specialists coordinators as well.

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    3. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. And now that the first Heinlein prize has been handed out, the first Alfred Bester Award for excellence in the field of distributing the first Heinlein Prize can be given out as well.

      And then the Slashdot Award for Redundant Commentary (SARC) can be awarded for excellence in elaborating on the grandparent post!

    4. Re:Let me get this straight... by QMO · · Score: 1

      And here I thought it was the Slashdot Award for Redundant Commentary and Stupid Moderation.

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    5. Re:Let me get this straight... by TaoJones · · Score: 1

      ...so now I'm waiting on my nomination for the John W. Campbell Award for "Blowing Beer Out Your Nose Reading a Slashdot Post"...

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  8. The best part? by dr_dank · · Score: 4, Funny

    He can yell "front!" at any time and have beautiful women available to do his bidding 24 hours a day. He even gets a fair witness included at no extra charge.

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    1. Re:The best part? by Doc+Ri · · Score: 1

      And when he walks out the door, it will be summer.

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    2. Re:The best part? by VAXcat · · Score: 1

      aAnd when he goes to the bathroom, he'll have a blaster hidden in his kilt.

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    3. Re:The best part? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      And a spare knife taped to his leg, in case of stobor.

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    4. Re:The best part? by Dr.+Smeegee · · Score: 1

      ... and and ugly, bemuscled guy to shave you while you lay on your back.

  9. Space commercialization!? by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

    Why can't there be a Heinlein award for insect repellant?

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  10. No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Because there's no air in space, silly.

    1. Re:No. by alx5000 · · Score: 2, Funny

      There's an Air and Space Museum!

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  11. Maybe Gates or Allen can win it by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    He now has 50 or more billions for not-for-profit development. It would be interesting if he used a portion to persue this. OTH, Paul Allen has been spending money on space before it was even popular to do so.

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    1. Re:Maybe Gates or Allen can win it by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      If I was Gates, I'd spearhead space development, as long as they named an actual space colony or inter-planetary ship after me. The William H. Gates III colony has a nice ring to it.

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  12. What is it with Heinlein? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting
    What is it with the geek fascination with Heinlein?

    His sci-fi is just a cover for his extreme right-wing, dog-eat-dog capitalistic propanganda with some boobs and underage sex thrown in.

    Oh wait... maybe geeks are the perfect audience for such morally bankrupt crap. Nevermind.

    1. Re:What is it with Heinlein? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Funny

      The problem with extreme left-wing socialistic science fiction is that there's no boobs or underage sex. It's soooo boring. :P

    2. Re:What is it with Heinlein? by jschrod · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Obviously, you've never read Ken McLeod or Iain M. Banks.

      Too centered on US authors, may be?

      (Btw, I consider Heinlein one of the best SF storytellers of the last century. I'm just wondering at this prize, because Glory Road ain't one of his good books. He's written great stuff, but this run-of-the-mill fantasy doesn't come close.)

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    3. Re:What is it with Heinlein? by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > his extreme right-wing, dog-eat-dog capitalistic propanganda

      Oh, you mean libertarian?

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    4. Re:What is it with Heinlein? by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

      >no boobs or underage sex

      You have obviously not read Child of Fortune by Norman Spinrad.

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    5. Re:What is it with Heinlein? by Drasil · · Score: 1

      Um.... OMG? You think Heinlein is left wing? Are you mental? While his views on such things were not conventional I'd stick him firmly in the "Libertarian" camp, which from my point of view (Banks and McLeod are countrymen of mine) is fairly far to the right. If Heinlein is viewed as some kind of leftist commie in the US these days then you guys are in a worse state than I though.

    6. Re:What is it with Heinlein? by Delight-Delirium · · Score: 1

      'Sides, Heilein may not have been much of a tree hugger, but that hardly makes him a true conservative as we see today. Libertarianism, regardless of the clueless palitical parties who espouse it, was on the left wing of the spectrum teh last I checked.

    7. Re:What is it with Heinlein? by GileadGreene · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Right. Because Heinlein certainly never portrayed the downsides of capitalism. Nor did he ever show a centrally controlled or socialist economy in a positive light. Oh, wait...

    8. Re:What is it with Heinlein? by jonored · · Score: 1

      "No boobs or underage sex" - Somehow I don't think he was referring to Heinlein in any way shape or form... I mean, sure, the juveniles stayed a bit to the side of direct mention, but Moon, or Time Enough, or certainly Stranger? I think that was contrasting them, not suggesting that they were the same. Although by a more useful definition of "underage" than "below-this-prescribed-number-of-years", I would not be surprised at that being not particularly present.

    9. Re:What is it with Heinlein? by jonored · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Er, not quite so much. That may be one of the more common positions that seem to be advocated by his books, but it is not by far the only one. For instance, "starship troopers" is more about the nature of war and civic duty than about commerce. Also springing to mind are "Stranger in a strange land", which some have suggested was part of the origin of the whole "free love" movement. "The Moon is a harsh mistress" doesn't so much go for capitalistic propaganda as the assertion that paying for what you get is unavoidable, even in a society that tries to obscure it. "Beyond This Horizon" goes farther, with money being considered just a representation of a share in the production of the society.

      All in all, my impression is that the primary purpose in the whole set is to get people thinking. Some of the books make Heinlein seem to come from one side; other books make it look like his actual opinion is completely on the other side. The predominant impression I got from them was one of "relationships are important" and "human beings should think". I mean, one of the main themes in "starship troppers" was the idea of formulating a system of morals based on clear and precise reasoning from a set of axioms.

    10. Re:What is it with Heinlein? by mikkoj · · Score: 1

      It's not so much about Heinlein. I don't think he would've minded. It's just that awarding prizes for commercialization is a bit redundant, since commercialization usually leads to it's own reward - cold, hard cash. Let's just stick to giving awards to the people who do a lot of hard work that doesn't have a chance of making them filthy rich in the process but benefits Progress, Humankind or [insert Grand Word].

    11. Re:What is it with Heinlein? by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1
      Libertarianism, regardless of the clueless palitical parties who espouse it, was on the left wing of the spectrum teh last I checked.

      The terms "left" and "right" as applied to politics originally meant the commoners and the nobility. As used today, they're best applied to the workers and the owners or "capitalists" - like the nobility of old, the owning class is defined and backed by the state (which issues corporate charters, land and resource deeds, patents, copyrights, etcetera).

      "Left" and "right", "worker" versus "owner", should not be confused with social liberalism or conservatism, or with command economies versue free markets, or with interventionism versus isolationism in foreign policy. Politics is multidimensional, and one could very well be a leftist with conservative social views who favors a free market and an interventionalist foregin policy, or a right-wing backer of command economies with a tolerant social attidude and a yen for isolationism. Of course, some combinations of these views are statistically more common than others.

      The term "libertarian" originally refered to the sort of libertarian socialism generally known today as anarchy. Libertarian socialism is decidedly leftist, i.e., aligned with the concerns of workers over owners.

      "Libertarian capitalists", of the sort you'll often find in the American "Libertarian Party", attempted to appropriate the term in the mid 20th-century. Libertarian capitalists are decidedly to the right, i.e., aligned with the concerns of owners, putting property rights as primary. (Indeed, many hold the view that a persons body is their "property" and thus arguing that all other rights flow from property rights).

      Heinlein was clearly socially liberal, a free-marketer, and a supporter of war as legitimate foreign policy. Beyond that, I'm not familiar enough with his work to attempt to characterize him.

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    12. Re:What is it with Heinlein? by Delight-Delirium · · Score: 1

      i agree with the way you describe Henlain, and with the way you categorise the Libertarian Capitalists of today. I have never before seen the definition of left as worker and rigth as owner - this does tend to put libertarians on the right. To clarify why I'd said what I'd said, my PHI teacher, or so long ago wrote on The Spectrum on a board for us...

      R reactionary, faschist, other stuff I quickly forgot, generic conservative Moderate Libertarian (Ala Locke, i suppose) generic liberal, anarchist, socialist communist L

      Actually, I dont recall who was more left, socialists or anarchist. I knew I landed a few wobbly steps to the right of the commies, somewhere between sicialists and anarchists, depending on my mood.

      Aaaaaanyways, given my understanding that Locke = Libertarian (and given that back then, I actually remmbered what the heck they'd all said - all I remember now is "Government sucks but is kinda needed, so lets have the minimum possible amount of it") Heinlein would kind of fall into that, and therefore to the slightly left

  13. $2500 (US) by AltGrendel · · Score: 1
    $500 (US) down with easy payments available.

    What? It says so on the web site. Just scroll to the bottom of the page.

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  14. Science Fiction Classics by loose+electron · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Heinlein was one of the Sci-Fi authors that stimulated the imagination, while staying within the bounds (albeit loosely) of "possible" scientific reality.


    Robert Heinlein, Isaac Asimov, Arthur C Clarke, Larry Niven, to name a few.

    Heinlein also had some interesting commentary on some "not PC" topics as well:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_in_a_Strange _Land


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    1. Re:Science Fiction Classics by IdahoEv · · Score: 4, Informative

      while staying within the bounds (albeit loosely) of "possible" scientific reality.

      Yes, Heinlein really cared about his science ... and particularly his engineering and orbital mechanics. He actually did the orbital mechanics calculations whenever he mentioned specific figures in a story. (I.E. if he said "We burned at 1.3G for 5 seconds to insert into a station-keeping orbit" it generally meant he had actually done that math.)

      However, nearly all of his stories depend on "torchships": ships with nuclear drive engines that have a combination of high thrust and high specific impulse that is extremely unlikely in the real world. The closest thing that has been proposed is Zubrin's Nuclear Salt-water Rocket which uses an aqueous solution of plutonium or uranium salt as both fuel and reaction mass, expelling this radioactive mixture out the back -- and a lot of physicists aren't even sure the NSWR could really work. It does have the charming feature of completely ruining the landscape underneath the launch site, which matches Heinlein's torchships pretty well.

      There's a fantastic discussion of all this at a website called The Atomic Rocket, which collects in one place all the useful scientific information about space travel and ship design for anyone who is writing fiction or designing games.

      For my money, it's the best damn geek site in the history of the web by a clear margin. (Though you have to be an old-school geek who thinks space is even cooler than computers.) Every few months I get sucked in and read the whole thing over again (and it's huge).

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    2. Re:Science Fiction Classics by DerekLyons · · Score: 1
      Yes, Heinlein really cared about his science ...

      No, RAH *appeared* to care greatly.
       
       
      and particularly his engineering and orbital mechanics. He actually did the orbital mechanics calculations whenever he mentioned specific figures in a story. (I.E. if he said "We burned at 1.3G for 5 seconds to insert into a station-keeping orbit" it generally meant he had actually done that math.)

      Sure he did that. But if he didn't find any numbers that worked - he simply didn't use any and forged ahead with his stories anyhow. Or he didn't even bother to try and find numbers - he just went with the dramatic flow. Leaving the impression that he was always mathematically correct - even when he had done no math at all.
    3. Re:Science Fiction Classics by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
      [...] if he didn't find any numbers that worked - he simply didn't use any and forged ahead with his stories anyhow. Or he didn't even bother to try and find numbers - he just went with the dramatic flow. Leaving the impression that he was always mathematically correct - even when he had done no math at all.

      The writer implies. The reader infers. When the writer is not attempting to imply, is he responsible for what the reader infers? Oh sure, it's a good idea to think about it, but he's not responsible for your assumptions.

      Personally, I never assume that any of the numbers are correct. They're not going to do me any good anyway! I just read the stories, and enjoy them.

      Some Heinlein is more fantasy than science-fiction anyway, especially some of his stuff that takes place farthest in the future. It's got sci-fi trappings, but it's got "technology" that no one attempts to explain.

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    4. Re:Science Fiction Classics by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      Heinlein was one of the Sci-Fi authors that stimulated the imagination,

      That wasn't all he stimulated. Very engaging reading for the early pubsecent teen male, too.

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  15. Re:$500,000 by insanarchist · · Score: 0

    Hey, that's a 5% discount!

  16. Heinlein was remarkably prescient... by tpjunkie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apart from some of the technical stuff he mentions, check this out (From the wikipedia page): In Solution Unsatisfactory, written in 1940, Heinlein set out the following predictions: in 1941 the US government would start a large-scale secret project, which would make nuclear weapons available for use by the end of 1944 (radioactive dust rather than a bomb - but with much the same strategic implications); the weapon would be used to destroy an Axis city in 1945; this would bring WWII to an end, but start a nuclear arms race between the US and the Soviet Union. (In Heinlein's story, it leads to a new war which the US wins, gaining domination over the whole world but becoming a military dictatorship in the process).

    1. Re:Heinlein was remarkably prescient... by ichigo+2.0 · · Score: 1

      In Heinlein's story, it leads to a new war which the US wins, gaining domination over the whole world but becoming a military dictatorship in the process

      That sounds eerily familiar.

    2. Re:Heinlein was remarkably prescient... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      Read the story. Dictatorship != imperialism.

    3. Re:Heinlein was remarkably prescient... by linuxguy1454 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      The truth is way too close. The US "won" the nuclear arms race by outspending the Soviet Union, at a level which the Soviet system could not support and helped lead to its' demise.

      One might argue, the way the current administration was able to stomp on Iraq despite the objection of all other world powers (except the UK, which encouraged Bush/Cheny to do the stomping), the US effectively gained domination over the whole world.

      One might also be able to make a point that, with the wishy-washy Congress afraid to make an effective stand against the administration on the war mongering issue, we are uncomfortably close to a dictatorship situation.

    4. Re:Heinlein was remarkably prescient... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
      Read the story. Dictatorship != imperialism.

      Look around you. The time scale might be a little off, but with "our" president (it's not like we voted him in) moving unilaterally to fuck over the populace at every turn, it looks like it's the direction we're heading, anyway.

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    5. Re:Heinlein was remarkably prescient... by mitherial · · Score: 1
      "In Solution Unsatisfactory, written in 1940, Heinlein set out the following predictions: in 1941 the US government would start a large-scale secret project, which would make nuclear weapons available for use by the end of 1944 (radioactive dust rather than a bomb - but with much the same strategic implications); the weapon would be used to destroy an Axis city in 1945; this would bring WWII to an end, but start a nuclear arms race between the US and the Soviet Union."


      I thought the same thing until I read (probably in Expanded Universe or Grumbles from the Grave) that Heinlein rewrote a number of his early stories and books when they were collected for publication to attempt to bring them "up to date"--a practice he later abandoned; I bet that Solution Unsatifactory was one of these. (Later publications of Sixth Column (later retitled The Day After Tomorrow)contain references to the nuclear program that are not in my original 1941 pulp Astounding Science Fiction magazine edition.)
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    6. Re:Heinlein was remarkably prescient... by mitherial · · Score: 1

      Of course, in many other ways Heinlein was very amazingly prescient--nothing I've said here diminishes that.

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    7. Re:Heinlein was remarkably prescient... by Apoklypse · · Score: 1

      Heinlein mentioned a few items of time travel didn't he? that explains how he BECAME Nostradamus at 100% accuracy!

    8. Re:Heinlein was remarkably prescient... by heinousjay · · Score: 1

      Jeez, I don't see anything that extreme. Are you sure you aren't engaging in a touch of hyperbole?

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    9. Re:Heinlein was remarkably prescient... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Bush has constantly and deliberately been eroding our freedoms, and taking care to keep it secret for as long as possible, making threats against the media to try to keep them in line, et cetera. If you don't think that this is an intentional move toward a totalitarian dictatorship, then we'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't believe (as some others do) that bush will try to hang onto the presidency past his terms, but he's laying the groundwork for continued oppression, and the people really don't seem to give a damn - they've been too successfully brainwashed by our society, beginning with the public education system.

      All this kind of stuff would have sounded like a paranoiac fever dream to me too, before I started paying attention. :(

      --
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  17. Wow by insanarchist · · Score: 0

    It's pretty amazing that it took nearly twenty years for someone to make some sort of advancement in space commercialization, especially considering how far we have to go. I mean, how many advancements in technology have been made because some enthusiast found/pushed for/invented ways to push the boundaries of his/her particular field of choice?

  18. Misplaced recognition by amightywind · · Score: 3, Funny
    awarded to Dr. Peter H. Diamandis, for various activities including his efforts as Founder and Chairman of the Ansari X Prize

    An award for someone who gave out an award? Why don't we recognise actual innovators?

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    an ill wind that blows no good
    1. Re:Misplaced recognition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least his last name's pretty cool.

      Unlike your folk-song comedy film inspired name!

    2. Re:Misplaced recognition by markjo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe every now and then it's good to recognize the inspiration that drives the innovators.

    3. Re:Misplaced recognition by FleaPlus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      An award for someone who gave out an award? Why don't we recognise actual innovators?

      Did you even read the linked page? I think his list of accomplishments more than qualifies him for the prize:

      2004 - Co-founded and currently serves as Chairman of Rocket Racing League - Combining the excitement of Indy car racing with the challenge of Rocketry, this league will have rocket planes race against each other on a 3D race track in the sky. Races are scheduled to begin next year.

      1997 - Co-founded Space Adventures Ltd - Space Adventures is the leading space tourism travel agency. Space Adventures is best known for arranging the flight of Dennis Tito to the International Space Station in 2001, making him the first space tourist.

      1996 - Founded and currently serves as Chairman and CEO of the X PRIZE Foundation - In addition to the successful Ansari X PRIZE, Diamandis is leading the Foundation in its effort to create prizes in several other industries including genomics, water treatment, education, as well as, the automotive industry.

      1995 -Co-Founded and served as President of Angel Technologies Corporation - Angel Technologies Corporation is a commercial communications company developing wireless broadband communications networks.

      1993 - Chairman & CEO of Zero Gravity Corporation - The only commercial space company in the world offering FAA-certified weightless flights utilizing a Boeing 727-200 aircraft. More than 200 people have experienced weightlessness since flights began three years ago.

      1991 - Founded and served as Director of Constellation Communications, Inc. (CCI) - CCI is one of five low-Earth orbit applicants designing a low-Earth orbit satellite constellation for voice telephony.

      1989 - Founded and served as CEO of International MicroSpace, Inc. (IMI) - IMI was an entrepreneurial space technologies company focusing on the provision of low-cost launch services (ORBEX(TM) launch vehicle program).

      1987 - Founder & Managing Director & CEO of International Space University (ISU) - ISU is the world's leading graduate program for multi-national and multi-disciplinary study of space.

      1985 - Co-founded the Space Generation Foundation - A non-profit organization to create a sense of identity in all people born since the advent of the Space Age on October 4, 1957. The Foundation supports numerous educational and research projects.

      1980 - Founded the Students for Exploration and Development of Space (SEDS) - SEDS is currently the world's largest student based pro-space organization.

    4. Re:Misplaced recognition by Julian+Morrison · · Score: 2

      No, it's quite in keeping with Heinlein's stories. Have you read "the man who sold the moon"? The hero in that wasn't the engineer who built the rocket, but the guy who moved heaven and earth so the rocket would get built - by funding and organizing the project.

    5. Re:Misplaced recognition by FredKiesche · · Score: 1

      2006: Inserts foot in mouth and rotates vigorously: http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/2006/05/peter_di amandis.html Yes, he apologized. Let's hope he doesn't do a repeat or the Heinlein Prize will be even more tarnished.

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    6. Re:Misplaced recognition by Drooling+Iguana · · Score: 1

      His name is Dr. P.H.D.!

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  19. Lunar Lander ~ XPrize by digitaldc · · Score: 1

    I got mine ready to go, just got to finish up duct-taping the capsule and finish drawing my logo.
    Anyone else?
    But seriously congratulations to Dr. Diamandis for winning! On to the moon!
    http://www.xprizefoundation.com/news/LunarLanding. asp

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    He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
  20. Up came amightywind by amightywind · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    My user name rocks! What is yours, you loser? Owned!

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    an ill wind that blows no good
    1. Re:Up came amightywind by bestinshow · · Score: 2, Funny

      My username > * > Your username!

      Whos Pwned Now ;)

      (woo, end of day immaturity)

    2. Re:Up came amightywind by Grrr · · Score: 1

      Good one...!

      I wonder how long you've been waiting for the opportunity to do that. :)

      <grrr />

  21. I doubt it. by Medievalist · · Score: 1

    Well, it's slashdotted now, but judging by the little image on the H prize page she'd be something of a wrist-breaker.

    Not much call for cavalry sabers these days, anyway.

  22. Happy Birthday to Us!!! by tringstad · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The award ceremony will be held in Houston, July 7, 2006.

    The article doesn't mention it, but I assume this date was chosen because it is Heinlein's Birthday.

    I know this because it is also mine, and I always thought that was cool.

    -Tommy

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    "I got a half gallon of Jack, and 2 dozen Ant Traps. I'm about to get wild." -me
    1. Re:Happy Birthday to Us!!! by Bill+Kilgore · · Score: 1

      07/07/07 will be R.A. Heinlein's 100th birthday.

      We should do something special!

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      Rediculous: A word indicating the writer is ridiculously ignorant.
  23. Slashdotted, of course by Aladrin · · Score: 2, Informative

    That poor server has been slashdotted, of course... but you can still see thumbnails at Google Images. http://images.google.com/images?q=lady+vivamus&sa= N&tab=wi

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    "If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you." - DM
    1. Re:Slashdotted, of course by autophile · · Score: 1
      Weird, none of the thumbnails load.

      --Rob

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  24. Wrist Breaker by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 2, Interesting

    >she'd be something of a wrist-breaker.

    I'm not sure how it would work on a saber, but you see that angled grip on hammers and other tools these days. That grip would put the line of the blade in direct line with the line of your forearm. Less arm fatigue when hacking at the annoying peasantry from horseback.

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    1. Re:Wrist Breaker by Medievalist · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Let's put it this way: You will always see some curve in a cavalry saber - it's what defines the form - but you won't always see that cocked hilt. My US Model 1840 doesn't have it. There are distinct advantages to the curve that you notice immediately when riding at the pell, and you can learn how to compensate for it when thrusting or fighting on foot - the limitations are manageable. The angled grip, though, puts extra stress on the wrist in any situation other than the classic cav chop-n-disengage sweep, and doesn't really help (in my opinion - others differ) much on the thrust.

    2. Re:Wrist Breaker by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      > Less arm fatigue when hacking at the annoying peasantry from horseback.

      Swords are more about poking than hacking. The baddest ass person on the battlefield just prior to guns and metal shafted arrows was a guy in armor with a 2-handed sword, which was used much more as a poking polearm. Nobody with a shorter weapon could get within range without...dying.

      But having a guy wind way back and slam down looks so much cooler in an RPG, eh? Screen shakes, gib! Ahh, Baldur's Gate. I still remember the pat-pat-pat of body parts landing on the sunny grasslands south of the city.

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  25. The Sword by Frightening · · Score: 1

    ..the Lady Vivamus Sword (as described in Heinlein's book Glory Road)..

    But what if it's not as described? Who will know? Sounds like undercover advertising to me.

  26. Thank goodness for all these prizes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean, why would anyone try to make MONEY off something unless there was a PRIZE involved?

  27. Heinlein's thoughts on net neutrality? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When thinking about net neutrality I am often reminded on one of his quotes.

    "There has grown up in the minds of certain groups in this
    country the notion that because a man or a corporation has made a
    profit out of the public for a number of years, the government
    and the courts are charged with the duty of guaranteeing such
    profit in the future, even in the face of changing circumstances
    and contrary public interest."

    -- Robert Heinlein, "Life-Line" (1939)

  28. Re:Lunar Lander ~ XPrize by desert+badger · · Score: 1

    Some people are seriously trying to win some of that NASA money.

    http://lunarlander.spaceracenews.com/

  29. Re:reality vs science fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >> the faster our species as a whole will get off this rock and start exploring the universe.

    IMHO, never gonna happen. A.I. robots will do that for us. As a species, humans have no viable business on other planets, much less starsystems. Space colonization is never going to happen on carbon based humans' account.

    Now I'm going to argue once more for our A.I. robotic overlords to conquer the space: Send robots to TITAN and EUROPA, they have liquid water and possibly life & biosphere. Not americans to wonder the rocks of Mars. Rovers have given enough of them, if not, send more and bring rocks back so they can be wondered here instead. Cheaper and more scientifically informative than sending humans there and back again.

  30. Serial entrepreneur by amightywind · · Score: 1

    Yes, I read it. I stand by my assesssment. The guy is a charlatan and a serial entrepreneur who has never created a successful venture. But I am sure he has pocketed lots of other people's money.

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    an ill wind that blows no good
  31. 1st Heinlein Prize Awarded by rs232 · · Score: 1

    You know I can think of only one other writer to beat Heinlein in the totally weirded out stakes that being Philip K. Dick. Don't take my word for it, just sit down to the PKD reader in one sitting. The Turning Wheel set in a post-apocalyptic future is uncannily prescient where the 'Caucs` are at the bottom of the social pile and everyone gives praise to the church of Elron (clearness be upon him) another lunatic .. er visionary of the SF world. Who knows PKD might have made a fine mainstream writer if he only laid off the amphetamines.

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    1. Re:1st Heinlein Prize Awarded by spacefiddle · · Score: 1

      i know it's fashionable and noble to take any opportunity to denounce someone's drug use, but fact is, phil had more issues than a newsstand. Go read VALIS...

      the flip side of your coin is maybe the mainstream would make better visionaries if they tried a dangerous chemical now and then besides alcohol, tobacco, the atmosphere, and the opiate of the masses...

    2. Re:1st Heinlein Prize Awarded by gwodder · · Score: 1

      Im not sure Phil wanted to be a mainstream writer. He always said the reason he wrote was to approach the question of "What is an authentic human being" and "What is reality" which lately have not been very mainstream topics. As we've seen, so far the movies "based on his novels" that have been popular so far are the ones with the philosophical content removed & gunfights added to fill the empty space. And the secret is he was off the amphetamines for the best parts of his writing career.

  32. water bed by mnemonic_ · · Score: 1

    You forgot his most useful invention: the water bed.

  33. What about Burt Rutan or Richard Branson? by Isaac-Lew · · Score: 1

    The guy that designed, built & launched a (suborbital) spaceship ? Or the guy that's actually selling tickets for spaceflight (which qualifies as commercial by definition).

    1. Re:What about Burt Rutan or Richard Branson? by solitas · · Score: 1

      In think 'commercialization" means a little more than lobbing a suborbital once, or selling tickets to a bunch of saps (for which there _should_ be a W.C.Fields 'never give a sucker an even break'-prize).

      It _might_ be considered commercial _after_ he delivers on those tickets - for all the good tourism is.

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      "It's time to take life by the cans." ~ Bender ("Bendin' in the Wind", ep. 3-13)
  34. Re: SARCaSM by drachenstern · · Score: 1

    What, the mod's didn't appreciate the joke? Sorry for your sake that I don't have mod points, best thing i've read today!!

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  35. Wow. by porkchop_d_clown · · Score: 1

    You know, most people would be honored to be referred to as a "serial entrepreneur" - since that would mean that they had not only successfully created something new - they did it more than once.

    Myself, I'm only an aspiring charlatan. Ready? Nothing up my sleeves....