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A Greener Chip Manufacturing Process

gardenermike writes "A new chip manufacturing process has been developed which uses UV light instead of high temperatures to prepare the silicon. This could lead to cheaper chips and greener factories if it pans out. Apparently the main problem is defects in the material, which are currently 'ironed out' as a side-effect of the extreme temperatures used."

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  1. Greener Chips? by frosty_tsm · · Score: 2, Funny

    You know... chips are supposed to be yellow, regardless of whether they are of the corn or potato variety.

  2. Side-effect my @$$ by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Apparently the main problem is defects in the material, which are currently 'ironed out' as a side-effect of the extreme temperatures used.

    I'd hardly call it a side-effect to have a process that minimizes defects. I'd rather call that an essential-effect.

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    1. Re:Side-effect my @$$ by exley · · Score: 2

      Yes, precisely. They're most likely referring to a process known as "annealing," and its purpose is to repair damage to the silicon lattice that's caused as a normal course of semiconductor manufacturing. As you helped point out, it wouldn't be done if it wasn't essential.

  3. Just in time to be obsolete by erice · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Silicon dioxide is the all purpose dielectric in most current chips. It is slowly and painfully being replaced by "low K" materials between wires and "high K" materials under the gate electrodes. The transition to Low K/High K has been pushed out again and again but it is being used in some chips now. If the this new method of growing silicon dioxide is still in research, it seems doomed to reach production shortly after it is no longer needed.

    1. Re:Just in time to be obsolete by treeves · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not so fast.
      SiO2 will still be used in non-critical layers and in less-than-leading-edge technology, which there is a lot of, and will be for a long time to come. Not all chips are CPUs. In fact, most aren't. It's worth a look.
      TFA also said it might allow manufacturing semiconductors on substrates (other than Si) which heretofore wouldn't be possible due to their inability to withstand the high temperatures.

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    2. Re:Just in time to be obsolete by gus2000 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The inter-metal-layer oxide that is begin replaced by low-K dielectrics is/was not formed by oxidation but by chemical vapour deposition. This oxide process is targetted at gate or isolation dielectrics. High-K dielectrics are in the roadmap to replace oxide at the gate dielectric, but development is much slower than people thought 5-6 years ago. In fact, it may never happen before we switch to different materials altogether.

    3. Re:Just in time to be obsolete by pookemon · · Score: 2, Funny

      and in less-than-leading-edge technology

      Ah Pentiums, gotcha...

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  4. Solar power applications? by tacarat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Would this process also be useful for making silicon based solar cells? Or is it at a step of silicon processing that's too far towards chip specific manufacturing? If solar cells can be made more cheaply, I wonder what this could make the initial $/watt investment.

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  5. Green Chips by Joebert · · Score: 4, Funny

    Good thing this is Slashdot, I usually throw the green chips away.

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  6. Re:I don't care. by MustardMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Uh... did you even bother to RTFSummary, let alone the article? This is about making the manufacturing process more environmentally friendly, not saving you a few cents on your electricity bill by making a chip that doesn't use much power.

    I won't even bother to address your "I'm not paying for it so I don't care" jackass attitude toward the environment.

  7. 90, 65, 45, 32 nm--where do these #s come from? by Pink+Tinkletini · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I posted this to an earlier discussion, where it seems to be eliciting no replies, so I'll ask again here. The Wikipedia entry states: "The successors to 45nm technology will be 32 nm, 22 nm, and then 16 nm technology; it is possible that these numbers are arbitrary, but it is also possible that they reflect fundamental physical limits of some sort." So which is it, arbitrary or fundamental physical limits?

    1. Re:90, 65, 45, 32 nm--where do these #s come from? by treeves · · Score: 2, Informative

      They're not exactly arbitrary, but they're not physically imposed (like quantum rules or something) either. They're basically just more-or-less a constant ratio from one down to the next.
      The semiconductor companies get together and publish a roadmap called ITRS that says we should all try to get to X nm by 20xx, and here are the challenges, etc.

      Now someday we're going to get to one of these technology nodes, as they're called, and find out there really is a fundamental phyiscal limitation that keeps us from going any smaller but we haven't got there yet. (Finally, my sig is directly relevant to what I'm posting!)

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    2. Re:90, 65, 45, 32 nm--where do these #s come from? by erice · · Score: 4, Informative

      Semi-arbitrary. Each whole generation is half the feature size of the generation before, starting from 0.650 micron (650nm). In between are "half" generations counting down from 1000micron.

      Half generations: 1000, 500, 250, 130, 65, 32, 16
      Whole generations: 650, 350, 180, 90, 45, 22

      The precise digits are chosen for convenience and actual processes vary a bit up and down for a given technology node. Each node requires new equipment. By moving from node to node together, manufacturers share some of the cost of development. Still, odd ball nodes do exist. DRAM's are often manufactured at intermediate dimentions and 150nm is used by some foundaries.

      Many fabless chip makers will skip half generations. I know a lot of manufacturers went straight from 350 to 180. Still, the choice to skip or not is mostly economic. If a node lands durring a recession, fabless chip makers are likely to hold off until the node that follows. The fabs don't really have a choice. They have to produce each generation in sequence, at least at small scale, or they will not have the technological base to start work on the nodes that follow.

    3. Re:90, 65, 45, 32 nm--where do these #s come from? by detritus` · · Score: 4, Informative

      The sizes are governed by 2 factors, the wavelength of the UV light used, currently 193nm, transitioning to the 157nm for the 45nm chips, and the diffraction gratings/refraction of immersion fluid/polarization of said fluid, etc. used. Due to the physics behind this (i wont bore you with the long equations, because i dont want to do them again) there's basically certain points at which these effects add up to the greatest possible resolution/intensity/etc. Any more in depth and i'd have to dig up my lithography text, and i dont really want to :)

  8. This is greenish, not green by Ougarou · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Appart from the fact that it might be replace by High K/Low K (whatever that may be), saying:
    "could reduce the prices of electronic devices for consumers and, of course, create a positive environmental impact"
    Seems wrong: Isn't production only a small part of actual environmental impact?
    Of course any "greener" pruduction method helps, but when I think about green chips, I think about chips like the efficeon chip from Transmeta.

  9. Re:I don't care. by geekoid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    let see

    you compute probably uses around 1KWh every6 hours.(probably more like 4 hours)
    let's se you pay12cents a KWh
    thats 48 cents a day. about 15 bucks a month.
    figure half of that is the amount of time that you would be using the computer anyway.
    extra 7.5 bucks a month.

    If you use AC, then it costs you even more.

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  10. Re: A Greener Chip Manufacturing Process by exley · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not only that, but there are a lot of harsh chemicals that are used in manufacturing semiconductors, and this is a concern on many levels (exposure by humans, contamination of things such as water supplies, etc.). When I saw "greener" chip manufacturing process, I was initially thinking and hoping that this was what they were referring to, but lower power usage is obviously a nice benefit as well.

  11. square root of 2. by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 2, Informative

    Each is the previous divided by the square root of 2.

    The reason for this is that if you decrease the feature size by the square root of 2 on each side, the feature shrinks to half size (since they are 2D features).

    You can see this by squaring them all

    180^2 = 32,400
    130^2 = 16,900
    90^2 = 8,100
    65^2 = 4,225
    45^2 = 2,025
    32^2 = 1,024
    22^2 = 484
    16^2 = 256

    See how each is half the size of the previous?

    I guess doubling the number of things (transistors) makes sense to humans. It sure makes it easy to calculate how many dice you can fit on a wafer after a shrink. It'll be about twice as many as before.

    You see it in hard drive sizes:
    8^2 = 64
    5.25^2 = 28
    3.5^2 = 12.25
    2.5^2 = 6.25
    1.8^2 = 3.24
    1.3^2 = 1.69 (missing for some reason)
    1^2 = 1

    You also see it in f-stops on cameras, where each f-stop lets in twice the light of the previous

    1/22^2 = 1/484
    1/16^2 = 1/256
    1/11^2 = 1/121
    1/8^2 = 1/64
    1/5.5^2 = 1/30
    1/4^2 = 1/16
    1/2.7^2 = 1/8
    1/2^2 = 1/4
    1/1.4^2 = 1/2
    1/1^2 = 1

    All are arbitrary, being for the convenience of humans doing math in their heads.

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  12. slightest change- and you are novel ! by kyc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Firstly, I have to say that, what they claim to serve as a >novel> technique is not completely novel. Of course, it was known that SiO2 could be formed by other means then sintering ( heating the silicon and letting the oxygen atoms dissolve in silicon ) but the problem has always been the purity.

    Semiconductors, especially devices in nanometer scaling need to be extremely pure. Their lattice structure -hence their electrical effects- can easily be distorted or failed by very little deviations, say, in dopant concentrations random dopant fluctuations. This is shortly called , RDF.

    RDF has become a major concern especially for the newcoming generations because basically when you scale down the channel length, the channel lengths are becoming so narrow (and small) that only about 100 hundred dopant atoms fall inside the channel volume. This , obviously, increases the sensitivity and failure rate of these transistors, let alone their variations (like threshold voltages) in a single die.

    From a mass production point of view, we want to get as uniform parameters as we can from a complete die. The ratio of successful ( uniform and working ) transistors to the total die area divided by a single transistor area ( which means the total number of transistors we wanted to harvest from that die ) gives us the `yield`.

    Now, taking into account the fact that even a failure of a single transistor, could lead to the failure of an entire word line of an SRAM , the yield strongly influences the SRAM or chip reliability.

    And for the companies, it does not matter whether you prepare the chip at room temperature but in a more sloppy way, because ultimately it is going to cost more !

    Of course the need for extreme purity in nanoscale devices is not realized completely. The reason is that we have not produced those chips yet. However, these issues ( especially RDF and process variations- you can google these and see yourself) are very hot topics in LOW POWER VLSI design.

    The people who work in these fields are surely aware of the need for an accurate fabrication and will just ignore this kind of work. There are some papers that try to reduce these effects only to succeed in a relatively low way.

    In modern research, you can easily publish a paper by changing the slightest detail of a published paper or you can slightly vary this known application and claim that you have come up with a totally novel ida.
    This is a draw-back.

    In short, they are not going to make anything green, UNLESS of course, they find a better and reliable method satisfying the needs of the upcoming nanoscale devices.

    Then I would shut up

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  13. In simple terms - glue for good nanotech material by dbIII · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It's the name for a fabrication technique which among many other things can be used to make multicyrstalline photovoltaic cells - it's really about coating materials with properties you want onto surfaces and doesn't have anything to do with the sun despite the name. The best links I can think of are www.solgel.com and www.isgs.org.

    The reason I mentioned this is because zone refining of silicon to ultimately make large diameter single crystal wafers is an expensive and highly energy intensive process and is only worth it because the next wafer may well be used for CPUs or other integrated circuits.