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Patient Revives After 19 Years By Rewiring Brain

dylanduck writes "A study of the recovery of a man who spent 19 years in a minimally conscious state has revealed the likely cause of his regained consciousness - his brain rewired itself around the injured areas into totally novel structures. It suggests the human brain shows far greater potential for recovery and regeneration then ever suspected." From the article: "There were ... significant changes between scans taken just two months after the recovery, and the most recent, at 18 months. Some of the new pathways had receded again, while others seem to have strengthened and taken over as Wallis continued to improve."

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  1. So, did he get X-ray vision? by 10Ghz · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Surprisingly, the circuits look nothing like normal brain anatomy"

    Well, it IS possible! Right?

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    1. Re:So, did he get X-ray vision? by CaymanIslandCarpedie · · Score: 4, Funny

      Everyone knows you don't get x-ray vision from being in a comma and having your brain rewire itself. You become a physchic who can see the past and present simply by touching people or objects.

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    2. Re:So, did he get X-ray vision? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about if you're in a semi-colon? Or a period?

    3. Re:So, did he get X-ray vision? by siriuskase · · Score: 4, Funny

      How about if you're in a semi-colon? Or a period?

      If surviving a period makes you better, that would explain women.

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    4. Re:So, did he get X-ray vision? by BrettJB · · Score: 4, Funny
      Thatll teach me to use the preview button.


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  2. Damn typical slashdot stories by zegebbers · · Score: 5, Funny

    it took me about 5 tries before I realised this wasn't about brain patents :(

    1. Re:Damn typical slashdot stories by babbling · · Score: 4, Funny

      Software patients must be stopped.

  3. Re:I, for one... by joshier · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not funny anymore.

  4. Please note... by Homology · · Score: 4, Funny

    that although Slashdot regulars generally are in a "minimally conscious state", for rewiring to occur there must be something to rewire in the first place.

    1. Re:Please note... by Elemenope · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not to harsh on you (especially since you wrote in at 9am), but I'd love it if the 'we only use 10% of our brains' meme would die, die, die!!!! already. It's not even superficially true; what is true is that a very large part of the brain structure is used for wiring instead of for information storage, but how would one get a functional device if all it had was memory and no processing circuits? The structure itself, one might imagine, is where the the lower order (and probably some higher order) information processing algorithms are 'stored'; that these structures only take up approximately 90% of the total machine is astonishing.

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    2. Re:Please note... by brunes69 · · Score: 4, Informative

      You are referring to an urban legend that is not true. It results from a mis-quotation around the idea that for any one task you use about 10% of your brain - but for a variety of different tasks you use all of it.

      See http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm for more info.

    3. Re:Please note... by Das+Modell · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Jesus fucking Christ. There's a great difference between consistently butchering the English language and making typing errors or accidentally leaving out words, especially since you can't edit posts on Slashdot.

  5. Re:Patent Reviews? by corychristison · · Score: 3, Funny

    *looks around*

    *slowly and uneasily raises right hand*

  6. Yeah but can he see the future? by gijoel · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because I'd be pretty pissed if I spent 18 years in a coma and I wasn't psychic.

    1. Re:Yeah but can he see the future? by metamatic · · Score: 4, Funny

      "What do you mean, 18 years and it's still President Bush?"

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    2. Re:Yeah but can he see the future? by InvisibleSoul · · Score: 4, Funny

      And the weirdest thing is, not only has he not aged, he's gotten younger!

  7. Most interesting... by dk-software-engineer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow. The brain is without doubt the most interesting part of the (male) human body.

  8. Terri Schiavo... by l33td00d42 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... was unavailable for comment.

    /so going to hell

    1. Re:Terri Schiavo... by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Informative

      Terri Schiavo ... was unavailable for comment.

      Thanks for taking one for team and saying what everyone else was thinking. But just in case anyone is really thinking there's an important parallel there or anything, remember that her case was substantially different: most of her brain was literally dead and gone - actually a mush of fluid. Rewiring "around" an injured area (as in the case cited) depends upon having surrounding brain material that's still viable. She was coasting on real low-level left-overs, and there simply wasn't a platform for that sort of recovery.

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    2. Re:Terri Schiavo... by QueenOfSwords · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Early intervention might have saved her though, her brain would have turned to mush over time. 15 years later the horse had really bolted.

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    3. Re:Terri Schiavo... by plunge · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While Schiavo in particular was indeed gorked beyond ungorking, its a little misleading to show laypeople that scan and claim that it dramatically demonstrates the point. There are actually people walking around today with CT scans that are similarly horrifying in the huge spaces. There are people making do okay with some very abnormal brains. The difference with Schiavo is that the spaces were caused by particular sorts of massive brain inujries and the complete atrophy of particular areas of the brain. But you can't tell that directly from a CT, especially as a layperson. For all a layperson knows, the critical areas could simply be moved around and squished but still functioning to some degree. In Schiavo they were not, but a layperson just can't tell so dramatically as looking at one CT.

      It's also important to remember that the brain is not ALL just undifferentiated mush, but has all sort of specialized areas that cannot be replaced by other specialized areas. The guy in this article has damage to some of those areas, and more importantly ther breaking of important connections BETWEEN areas, but not a total loss of any area: they still had functioning sections that rewired and worked overtime to compensate. However, if both of your hippocampi die, it's not like your amygdala is suddenly going to switch over and start performing their functions.

      This case has been paraded around because of the Schiavo case, but in doing so its only illuminated how medically ignorant some people are: they don't care about the specifics, or learning about how the brain works, and they lump together uncertainties about one area of knowledge about the brain (its ability to create new connections to repair damage, which contrary to the sort of hyperbolic claims of the article, we've always known is pretty plastic and this is just an extreme example) and try to pretend that raise questions about a completely different area of knowledge: all without acknowledging that there are any key differences or even thinking about them.

    4. Re:Terri Schiavo... by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Informative

      It hardly defies our current knowledge of the brain. Rewiring happens in stroke victims, for instance. Mrs. Schiavo's forebrain was missing entirely, replaced by cerebral fluid. Rewiring is one thing, but the only thing that would have made her better would have been regrowing.

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    5. Re:Terri Schiavo... by Cecil · · Score: 3, Informative

      Except that a hemispherectomy isn't recoverable once your brain is developed. Although the wikipedia entry does not explicitly say so, it does suggest from the pediatric links and occasional use of the world 'child' that hemispherectomies only work on very young children, before their brains have developed to be reliant on both hemispheres.

    6. Re:Terri Schiavo... by ceoyoyo · · Score: 5, Informative

      A hemispherectomy is not a half brain lobotomy. At a (very) high level your brain consists of four major anatomical regions, the brain stem, cerebellum and the two hemispheres of the cerebrum. The cerebellum is known to handle coordinated motions and looks like it's involved in memory too. The brain stem is the oldest part and takes care of all the vital functions like breathing. The cerebrum is where most of the interesting stuff happens, like personality, intelligence, voluntary movement and processing of sensory information.

      A hemispherectomy removes up to half of the cerebrum. To be technically alive you only need an operating brain stem. The brain stem isn't plastic though -- it won't rewire itself to make you conscious again. Only the cerebrum can do that.

      So the difference between Terri Schiavo and this guy is that Ms. Schiavo had a devastated cerebrum and enough brian stem left to keep her sort of alive. This guy had some localized damage that happened to be in a critical area.

    7. Re:Terri Schiavo... by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 3, Funny

      And she was in a vegetative state. So why wasn't she re-growing? I suspect there was a liberal conspiracy to deny her fertilizer.

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  9. Someone has to break the news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Cosby Show is over.

  10. Yes! by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Funny

    There is hope for Slashdot after all!

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  11. Neuronal remodeling by BWJones · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Neuroscientists in the epilepsy and learning and memory communities have known for years about the nervous systems ability to rewire and remodel in response to deafferentation. In fact, the reluctance to believe in this by other members of the neuroscience community (vision community) led to some two decades of misunderstanding of retinal degenerative diseases until we came along and demonstrated conclusively in the retina that remodeling also occurs. The deal is that neurons need input. They either get it via glutamatergic signaling or calcium mediated signaling in normal circumstances. When those signaling mechanisms are disturbed, neurons either rewire seeking additional input, or they die.

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    1. Re:Neuronal remodeling by Alexandra+Erenhart · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I was tought in biology class back in highschool than nerves has the ability to regenerate themselves over time. A friend of mine suffered a great injury on one of his arms because of an accident, that left him with a piece of titanium on it and a paralized hand. He couldn't move it because his nerves got cut. But after some time he regained movility of his hand and fingers, as the axons grew and reconnected. Seems obvious to me that brain cells can do the same.

    2. Re:Neuronal remodeling by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Axons can regrow if the neuron itself is still alive. Neurons don't normally (there are notable exceptions) reproduce so once you kill the cell it's gone.

      Your friend's case is sort of like spontaneously repairing a cut trace on the motherboard of a computer. This case is more like the extra floating point unit in the processor reconfiguring itself to replace a damaged instruction decoder.

  12. Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    After rewiring his brain he is now BS 7671 compliant and can be used in europe.

  13. Hope for Earth's lowest? by business_kid · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does this mean that the incurably unintellectual politicians and religious leaders we seem to put in charge of everything can hope to rewire and do a better Job :-)?

  14. Limiting factors in rewiring rates? by Boo5000. · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I would like to know what limits the rewiring rate in such a state? Is it metabolic? Or does the rate of new axon growth and synapse formation follow the normal growth rate of neural cells late in life - which, as I recall, is fairly slow?. This was obviously a long process, but was there a certain "critical point" reached during the rewiring that, once passed, assured recovery of functions? Is this subconscious dreaming or thinking that manipulates signaling, and could simple brain simulaion methods achieve a similar goal in the absence of such a process? Hopefully such a case generates academic interest that will help progress this area of brain research.

  15. We can rebuild him.... by dedeman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well, this is absolutley incredible news, but I am curious if some would see it as being a survival mechinism?

    Except for Rip Van Winkle, I don't think that a 19 year period of repair and adaption would really lend itself to survival. Not to say that this isn't miraculous, but, I'm sure the recovery time will be significant.

    Besides, would you really want to wake up 20 years older, with years of rehabilitation to look forward to? I would be more concerned with the ethics of keeping someone alive for that long.

    1. Re:We can rebuild him.... by Wireless+Joe · · Score: 5, Informative
      Besides, would you really want to wake up 20 years older, with years of rehabilitation to look forward to?
      My son developed Periventricular leukomalacia (PVL) soon after he was born. PVL is usually characterized by large cysts in the brain that affect particular functions. In my son's case, the PVL was diffuese and spread throughout his brain in small, rice-grain sized cysts and affects his general functionality. We're not "keeping him alive" in a medical sence, but he does seemed destined to spend the rest of his life in a "minimally conscious state".

      He's four years old now, and I would love if my son, at any age, woke up one day and started to learn the things he's missed (talking, crawling and then walking, etc). My wife and I read a lot about brain injury and the possibility of his recovery. The nature of his injury always gives me hope that because the damaged areas are so small, it may be easier for his brain to compensate.

      Unfortunately, because of the state of medical research in the USA (stem cell especially), My family is probably going to have to travel to another country to take advantage of any treatments that may be developed in the next few years.
    2. Re:We can rebuild him.... by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I cannot imagine what that's like for you. If you can take any comfort in knowing that other people find that disease to be intolerable and want a cure, please do.

    3. Re:We can rebuild him.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't know you and I'm not even religious, but I'll pray that day comes for you and your son.

  16. TFA: Rip Van Winkle by sm62704 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Wallis regained the ability to move and communicate, and started getting to know his now 20 year old daughter - a difficult process considering he believed himself to be 19, and that Ronald Reagan was still president.

    I was in a real bad wreck in 1976, my brain hardly worked for a year or more, but I got better. I wonder what a scan of it would look like? Would it be wierdly wired like this guy's?

    Few people I know would be surprised to find my brain was wired wierd.

    Since then, the thought has occurred to me that I could have actually gone into a coma and the last forty years could have been a dream. But then, any of you could have had an accident and not know it, and be dreaming this. So there's little point in not behaving as if reality is real, especially considering the incredibly high probability that this IS real.

    I wonder if he dreamed?
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  17. Oblig. Simpsons by amliebsch · · Score: 4, Funny

    NEWSIE:
    Tonight, on Eyewitness News: a man who's been in a coma for 19 years wakes up.

    MAN:
    Do Sonny and Cher still have that stupid show?

    NEWSIE:
    No, uh, she won an Oscar, and he's a Congressman.

    MAN:
    Good night! [Turns over and dies.]

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  18. Re:19 years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He was in a coma. There was enough extant brain matter to hold out hope for a minimal recovery at some future point. The minimal recovery occurred about 3 years ago and they have studied his brain since then to see how it develops after such a long period of inactivity in a lot of regions. Basic brain growth due to everyday practice of activities (in his case, limited activities) is all that is being observed. This is not a breakthrough by any means and appears to me, with the press release, etc., to be written to attract funding to the authors for further study by implying novelty in their research.

  19. Re:19 years? by the.mutts.nuts · · Score: 3, Funny

    Nah, being in a "minimally conscious state" means they were able to put him to work as a hospital administrator.

  20. Re:I, for one... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 3, Funny
    Sure it is... The classics never get old...

    I for one welcome our new classic overlords.
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  21. Re:TERRI SCHIAVO (December 3, 1963 - March 31, 200 by tpjunkie · · Score: 5, Informative

    I hate to feed the troll, but Terri Schiavo's brain was destroyed. She was blind, brain dead, and for all intents and purposes, a shell. There's a huge difference between her case, and this one.

  22. Re:This is why I'm against organ transplants by PhotoBoy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I believe the difference between this case and something like Terry Schiavo is that there was still measurable brain activity in this guy so he wasn't brain dead.

    But I agree it would be pretty shitty to wake up and find half your body gone to organ donation. The recent successful face transplant in France used part of the face of a brain dead patient. Imagine waking up to be told you'd had your face removed and given to someone else!

  23. Re:TERRI SCHIAVO (December 3, 1963 - March 31, 200 by plunge · · Score: 5, Funny

    Over the past few years, I've steadily built up respect and mod-points to the point where I have a +1 comment bonus. Well, it was all for this one moment: so that I could say something that needs to be said, and yet still have my account and maybe even my +1 bonus survive the consequences. ...

    You, sir, or madam, are embarrasingly stupid.

  24. Re:Nope. by MyLongNickName · · Score: 3, Funny

    Untrue. Managers have half a brain, so this actually brings usage up to 6%. We round to ten just to be nice.

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  25. Poor guy by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I mean think about it, last time he was awake was in 1987. The world has changed ALOT since then... I wonder how I'd feel?

    "Internet? What's that? Computers, those are the huge things that big businesses and the government use, right?"

    1. Re:Poor guy by Pink+Tinkletini · · Score: 4, Funny

      "The governor of California is WHO?!?"

  26. Re:I, for one... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 3, Funny

    We need a name for this recovery process. How about "brain nukem forever"? :)

  27. Re:I, for one... by LiquidAvatar · · Score: 3, Funny

    Welcome! To the world of... tomorrow!

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  28. El bulto by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There was a mexican movie (ficticious) about a 19-yo guy who went into coma in 1971 and woke up in 1992, having to cope with a grown up family, an older (and remarried) wife, and of course, new political times.

    It was called "El bulto" (the bag). Very interesting movie.

  29. Medical bill by phorm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Keeping him on support all this time must have been (or will be) an incredible financial drain on his family. I'd imagine that the medical bill was ludicrous, so hopefully he comes from a family with money. Being alive is great, but life sure isn't going to be easy considering:

    a) When he looks into a mirror his face will be 19 years older... from 19 to 38 kinda sucks
    b) His muscle mass will be negligable. After being in a cast for only 3-4 weeks after an ankle break my leg muscles had shrunk and strength decreased noticably
    c) He's got a lot of educational catching up to do. Hopefully he worked as a carpenter, plumber, or some other job where old skills are still useful with some upgrading (if he was into computers 19 years ago he's gonna be way behind)
    d) Likely there's still a bit of other funkiness with his body after 19 years and major brain damage.
    e) Scientists are going to poke and prod him to research this regeneration.

    On the plus side:

    a) Medicine should be a bit better than it was then
    b) Technology in many cases will be pretty cool. Even if he's bedridden for a long time it'll likely be a wonder for him to try out a modern console
    c) That first post-vegetitive shower is going to be really nice
    d) Add to that a real dinner after being on hospital food and drips for 19 years...
    e) Somebody with a brain that regenerates that well will be of interest to science, which is annoying but possibly good for paying the bills.

  30. Re:At the risk of fanning a fire... by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now there is this case of a man who was declared by experts to be in a permanent minimally-conscious state waking up after 19 years. Makes me wonder if letting treatment continue wouldn't be such a bad idea. What if you got a second chance to live?

    Blow that for a game of soldiers. If I woke up after 19 years in a coma, my first question would be why didn't someone hadn't pulled the plug/ removed the tube yet.

    A full recovery never happens, except in movies. People don't just wake up from a coma. The damage affects them for the rest of their lives. After 19 years, the person you knew would be a stranger to you anyway, and there's not much of that person left.

    I wouldn't want anyone close to me to waste their lives praying over a vegetable for 19 years in the hope that a half-me will wake up to be taken care of in much the same way. There comes a point when modern medicine stops saving people's lives and is simply prolonging suffering, both for the victim and their family. It's not easy to gauge when that line gets crossed, but when it has been, its time to let go.

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  31. The brain is amazing, the younger the better by Daath · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually small children can have at least half of their brain removed and still function normally in later life. It's pretty amazing! I once read about a man who had had to take a brain scan. The scan revealed that the only brain tissue he had, only covered the inner surface of his skull, apparently he was born like that, and he functioned normally. Of course I cannot find any documentation about it now, but the link I've provided describes a "normal" procedure. It can cure rare epeleptic disorders and other things.
    Mind boggling ;)

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  32. Obligatory Emo Phillips by greenguy · · Score: 3, Funny

    "I used the thing the brain was the most amazing organ in the body. Then I realized, well, look what's telling me that!"

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  33. TV Show? by Joao · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I saw a TV show about this guy some time ago (PBS? Discovery? National Geographic?). Yes, he is awake, but the poor guy is in very bad shape. He has very limited use of his body; his brain is unable to store any new information for more than a few seconds; and his frontal lobe is basically gone so he has no sense of boundaries when communicating with people. His 20-year old daughter is his primary caretaker, and since he thinks he's a 19 year-old and is unable to remember that she is his daughter, he keeps asking her for sexual favors and groping her any chance he has. He is also very verbally abusive towards her and pretty much everyone else.

    Yes, he's no longer in a coma, but he is far from functional.

  34. More information by lazybratsche · · Score: 3, Informative

    I couldn't find the actual published study that the New Scientist article (sort of) referenced (maybe it hasn't been accepted for publication yet?). However, I did find this article by the auther mentioned, which is a very readable look at a few cases of brain-damaged patients (including an explanation as to why Terry Schaivo isn't in the same category at all). Unfortunately it doesn't go very in depth into the details of how Willis' brain rewired itself, which I was interested in. Still, very informative reading.

  35. Re:At the risk of fanning a fire... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    the young woman who was, like this gentleman, in what many people called a "persistent vegetative state".

    While Schiavo was in a vegetative state and had no hope for recovery, this man was in a minimally conscious state. If this man had been in a persistent vegetative state, he would not be recovering (albeit very slowly and with little hope of his former abilities) today. It is a significant mistake to equate these two states.

    Would there ever be a chance S[c]hiavo could've recovered like this man did?

    No.

  36. Re: Dude, where's my hemisphere? by Adlopa · · Score: 3, Interesting
    It's also important to remember that the brain is not ALL just undifferentiated mush, but has all sort of specialized areas that cannot be replaced by other specialized areas.
    Apparently not, as this piece on hemimegalencephaly amply illustrates. The brain is siginificantly more adaptable than anyone imagined, or so it would seem.
  37. Reminds me of an update to an old joke by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 3, Funny

    From TFA: a difficult process considering he believed himself to be 19, and that Ronald Reagan was still president.

    So this guy's in coma for 19 years, and he wakes up, and he asks, "How's President Reagan doing?" And the doctor says, "Sir, Reagan is dead." And the guy says, "Oh God, no, that means Bush is President!"

    (The original was Eisenhower and Nixon. The more things change ...)

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  38. Delta brain wave by DaFallus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Somehow he has cobbled together a random assortment of other brainwaves into a working mind.

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  39. Re: Dude, where's my hemisphere? by plunge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Again, this is the problem when people use grand generalizations about complex things like the brain without knowing specifically what they are talking about. Hemispheres have basic redundancies built into their structures. That's just not the same thing as removing key structures entirely, from both hemispheres.

  40. Umm... psychic? by Chmcginn · · Score: 3, Funny
    Because it wouldn't be something if you were psychic while in a coma, for 18 years. I mean, who would you tell?

    I guess it depends on what kind of psychic you're talking about... but I would assume the ability to recieve and broadcast... In which case it would be the perfect cover. Who's going to suspect the guy in the almost-coma of being the one secretly controlling the world, eh?

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  41. There is more to the story of Terry Wallis by hernick · · Score: 5, Informative

    Terry woke up three years ago, and the story was rather widely reported back then. In fact, Terri Schiavo has, in her time, often been compared to Terry - in fact, their medical cases share almost no similarities.

    The story itself has woken up in 2006, for reasons unknown. You can find a better article than the one of the front page at http://www.nature.com/news/2006/060703/full/060703 -5.html

    This everything2 article is probably the best I found about Terry, including updates from 2004: http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=147582 5

    Also, some updates on the family's fight with health services, from 2005: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/6/21 /143438.shtml

  42. Re:That sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'd suggest 6th grade English, in your case.