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Evolving ODF Environment: Spotlight on SoftMaker
Andy Updegrove writes "In this fourth in-depth interview focusing on ODF-compliant office productivity suites, I interview Dr. Martin Sommer, of Germany's SoftMaker Software. Most people know about OpenOffice, StarOffice, and KOffice, the ODF poster child software suites. But there are also other products available as well, including this one, which bundles word processing and spreadsheet capabilities (with more modules on the way), runs on both Windows, Linux and mobile platforms, is designed for home users, is available on-line, is localized in many languages - and is dirt cheap, besides. It's also been selected by AMD for use in connection with its ambitious "50x15" plan, which hopes to connect 50% of the world population to the Internet by 2015. This interview series amply demonstrates how a useful standard - in this case ODF - can rapidly lead to the evolution of a rich and growing environment of compliant products, providing customers with variety, choice, price competition, and proprietary as well as open source product alternatives - in stark contrast to the situation that has prevailed in office suite software for the last many years."
If ODF is the reason for this new plethora of Office products, then why is
"Reading and Writing Word documents" the very first feature they all brag about.
As much as I wish ODF were widely used, the reason OOo, Star and the rest
exist is because of MS Office pricing. And these products do little to erode
the prevelance of the
me a document in anything other than Word. I'd be amazed if it happened.
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While I am a HUGE proponent for choice, I just don't understand the logic behind creating Office suites like these. They are nowhere near as polished as the expensive Microsoft Office, and yet are far more immature than OpenOffice.org. I could understand if they released the office suite for free, but who wants to pay for an application that (ultimately) you don't no whether you will be able to get support for because the company could be a fly-by-nighter. I have similar feelings with yellowTAB's Zeta -- why charge $100 USD for a product that ends up costing almost as much as Windows with much less support, and must be paid for in comparison to Linux? I just don't get it....
huh?
How is a file format "slow"?
A fly-by-nighter lasst a couple of years, at best.
A very misleading article and submission.
.odt importer, but the exporter is still "in the works".
I'm a big fan of TextMaker, which is SoftMaker's word processor. (I don't know the rest of the "suite").
But even though it is a really good word processor, it is hardly "ODF-compliant". In fact, this is my main problem with the program. By default, it stores documents in it's own proprietary format. It can save as MS-Word, which is what I do as a "lesser evil": it's also proprietary, but at least it is so widely used that I can expect to find converters for a long time. There is an
I don't want import/export filters. I want my word processor to use an open document format natively, by default. So I hope they will eventually completely switch to ODF.
Then of course, if the ODF is such a monstruosity as OpenOffice, I can understand why SoftMaker doesn't jump on the bandwagon... (yes, that's flamebait, but I mean it...:-)
An alternative would be to comletely open up the specification to their own format.
ODF is a format which can now be relied upon from now into the future. Something not to be sniffed at when archiving (or exchanging) information. Why do you think it's being demanded by government offices all over the world so soon after becoming a draft?
MS lost the war on the 3rd of May 2006. They just don't know it yet. ISO 26300 commoditises the format of word/spreadsheet/database files. It's a lynchpin which has just been pulled from MS Office (and therefore Windows). From now they're going to have to compete on price and merit.
Independants can now take advantage of that without having to run to keep up with the doc format, though that's still going to be an issue for a few years as ODF replaces doc as the standard format. That's the catastrophe, slow at first and accelerating out of control rapidly as the market does what governments couldn't.
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But the domain is www.docnotes.net, it was probably was intended to be some kind of gross medical pic.
What we have here gentlemen and lady who wandered onto the wrong site by mistake, is a good old fashioned goldrush.
Folks hear tell there's some erosion happening in the Microsoft foothills, and they want to stake a claim.
Next comes a marketplace awash with Wannabe Microsoft Office clones, all trying to eke some small living off the Open format that can be like the holy 'doc', and which they desperatelly hope is a way to get a decent market share. Sorry guys, the junkies aint switching, it's create an entirely new market or die.
I use ODF for *everything*, it's great, but these companies have got to realise, if all they can do is ape Office, then they're going against a battleship in a rowboat.
ODF brings a chance to create something new, a way to store documents in a unified format that means there will never be a place or time when they cannot be accessed. Not just the next few years, but centuries from now.
Microsoft have *never* offered this, unless the entire world plays their tune, and in spite of what you may have been told, there have been area's in computing where microsoft has never been able to venture. Without that they couldn't hope to dominate documents of all types, and you know they'd like to.
ODF can though, it has one huge advantage. Being an Open standard, it can be modified in full public view. Things will only ever be added if they enhance the document format itself, not to suite the perceived needs of a single vendor.
The only way to really exploit ODF is to break away from MSOffice like atributes, and start making something different and new.
I found the article both informative, entertaining, and grammatically confused.
-knewter
I've got a 3d Gene expression regulatory network format that's pretty slow.
There is set of office apps besides MS Office and OpenOffice where ODF really would make a difference: Apple's. But, instead, Apple Pages and Keynote use their own, proprietary format, a format that isn't even consistent between Apple's own releases.
I was using a Windows box the other day. Overall, the OS seemed solid and polished, so I installed MS Office.
Office opened up, I typed some characters... simple first steps. All seemed to be in order, so I go to try it out with some of my documents.
I go to open a document I have opened with a few other Word Processors.. nothing. Word can't read any of my standard ODF documents. All my other word processing software can read Word docs, but Microsoft can't read the basic, common denominator standard. So much for that.
So, on to spreadsheets. Open up an open document format spreadsheet with Excell. Excell somehow thinks this is a CSV formatted file of all things. I can't use any of my existing spreadsheets on this new software.
Rather than spen untold painful hours converting everything, I uninstalled office and installed OOo for Windows. It seems that MS has alot of work to do to bring their office suite up to par with current standards. As it is, it seems barely useable, *IF* you can get access to a Windows machine and only if that machine has MS Office installed, which is a fairly rare combination from where I stand. I wonder why I don't see more "Windows isn't ready for the desktop" comments, because from my vantage point, that's the impression I get every time I struggle to use the damn stuff.
This first paragraph reeks of astroturfing. And not for Microsoft.
From the rest of your post, it's clear you're not a regular Windows user, much less an Office user.
If that's the case, where'd you get the Office CD to install on a Windows box (which, it appears, is not your machine)?
People usually rip on MS for stealing the GUI, why aren't people ripping on Apple for stealing the vendor lock-in? Everything Apple does, with formats, DRM and so on, is a textbook example on how MS has been doing it...
I thought ms word now writes xml based "doc" files.
http://www.betanews.com/article/Microsoft_to_Suppo rt_OpenDocument/1152166759
"In a surprise move, Microsoft is bending to pressure from governments and will sponsor an open source project to build tools that enable conversion between its Open XML formats in Office 2007 and OpenDocument (ODF). The forthcoming Office suite will also support an add-in for saving directly to ODF."
I have to go scare some pigs off my roof that just flew in....
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FYI, Textmaker is also available for Pocket Pc and Linux PDAs. Don't know if the portable versions support ODF though.
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I have been using OpenOffice and the OpenDocument format since it was available and have never had a problem... After a lot of discussion, the school where I teach (I'm the CIS teacher) is going to OpenOffice and the OpenDocument format this year- it's an international standard and 15 years from now we will still be able to open those documents created this year. (We store a lot of student records in digital form. And the discussion was whether to go OOo AND Linux this year. We're going Linux next year... ) An example... my wife wanted to open a set of Word documents created in an earlier version of Word using Office 2003- no luck. I had to set up a computer with an older version of Word, and then save them to a "newer" old version so Word 2003 could convert them. And this isn't the first time I have had to do that. Need I say more?