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Possible Early Release for the Nintendo Wii

ForensicPenguin writes "CNN has an update on a possible early release for the Nintendo Wii console. From the article: 'While Nintendo has not made any formal announcements about the launch date for the Wii, most of the industry has expected the machine to hit retail at approximately the same time as Sony's PlayStation 3 (which is set for November 17). Now, industry observers — and insiders — say they expect the system to be available in October, with late September a dark-horse candidate.'"

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  1. Yay! by spykemail · · Score: 5, Funny

    There is a God, and He doesn't like Sony.

    1. Re:Yay! by Orange+Crush · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Yipii!

    2. Re:Yay! by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Of course not. Everybody knows His name is Shigeru Miyamoto.

    3. Re:Yay! by Adriax · · Score: 1

      I thought it was Will Wright?

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    4. Re:Yay! by yoyhed · · Score: 1

      Along those lines, you might as well say Peter Molyneux. Not that I can respect him anymore after Fable...

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  2. Basically... by Churla · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sony to Nintendo : People love us, they don't care how much we charge, they don't care how expensive the games are, they don't care that were really just revamping and polishing the same old game concepts. We win...

    Nintendo to Sony : We'll beat you on price, we'll beat you on innovation, we'll beat you to market. P.S. Die in a fire.

    Microsoft to Consumers : Look at all the fun you can have buying an Xbox 360 AND a Wii for the cost of a PS3...

    Nintendo to Microsoft : You.. in teh fire too.

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    1. Re:Basically... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pffft! Thanks, that made my day.

    2. Re:Basically... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      And the lesson is : never try to type when you are totally drunk while your 10 cats jump around on your keyboard.

    3. Re:Basically... by Knightbane · · Score: 1

      that was one of the funniest things i have read in a while.

    4. Re:Basically... by Tekzel · · Score: 1

      blockquoteNintendo to Microsoft : You.. in teh fire too./blockquote

      Dont frigging DO that! I snorted coke out my nose when I read that part, and that HURTS.

  3. Rumor already denied by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Rumor already denied by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 4, Informative
      From the article you cited:

      OK, so the statement doesn't really toss out the idea of the console releasing in September, but it does add some weight to a more credible idea of the console launching in October. As was and will be until September, we'll just have to wait for Nintendo's statement.

      Nintendo didn't deny the rumor so much as say that we'll just have to wait until September to find out. Still, a September release seems HIGHLY unlikely.

    2. Re:Rumor already denied by Cocoa+Radix · · Score: 1

      If Cocoa

    3. Re:Rumor already denied by ImaNumber · · Score: 1

      "There's no change in our plan to release the console in the last quarter of this year."

      That means October at the earliest....

  4. Will it run... by waif69 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Gamecube games? Will it have more games than Gamecube? Will the price be set noticably below Sony and M$ like that Gamecube was?

    1. Re:Will it run... by preppypoof · · Score: 1
      Gamecube games? Will it have more games than Gamecube? Will the price be set noticably below Sony and M$ like that Gamecube was?
      yes, yes, and yes. welcome to last year.
    2. Re:Will it run... by steveo777 · · Score: 1

      You really need to RTFA. It answers almost every question you ask. Then you can read that particular editor's other stories, which will likely take care of the others. Or search Slashdot's archive of duped stories about the Wii's backwards capable systems.

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    3. Re:Will it run... by neonprimetime · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why RTFA when you can post a question to /. and have hundreds of /.ers rush to point out how stupid you are (and in the process answer your question)?

    4. Re:Will it run... by neonprimetime · · Score: 2, Funny

      What kinda /.er are you? You cannot title a post "Will it run..." and then not proceed to put "Linux" in the body of your post!

    5. Re:Will it run... by Hitto · · Score: 1

      That's a well-known joke in the linux community. Example, don't know how to get the driver for your geforce card running under ubuntu? "Ubuntu sucks, it can't even yadda yadda!" And you'll get more helpful answers than RTFM's if you'd asked politely ;)

    6. Re:Will it run... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. It is faster to RTFA provided the article isn't slashdotted.
      2. RTFA instead of posting stupid questions protects whether you will be taken seriously if you ever get into a serious discussion in later threads.

      But then again, who the fuck cares. The poster chose to post stupid questions instead of RTFA. Different strokes for different folks.

    7. Re:Will it run... by sehryan · · Score: 1

      "2. RTFA instead of posting stupid questions protects whether you will be taken seriously if you ever get into a serious discussion in later threads."

      Implying that you research the posting history of the person you are replying to so that you may better ridicule what might be a perfectly valid point because he was stupid once before in a completely unreleated thread.

      Might want to go and find yourself a girl, mate.

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  5. Speculation by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 4, Informative
    It's important to remember this is still speculation. As far as I can tell it's based only on a comment by P.J. McNealy of American Technology Research that Nintendo has already started manufacturing the final units and Microsoft started manufacturing 69 days before launch.

    But Microsoft didn't really get enough units manufactured for launch and Nintendo may have learned from their mistake. So it's very possible that the launch will be later than this guess.

  6. Tech secrets by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nintendo engineers have revealed that the accelerated release will happen thanks to "a flashy glowing star thing we found in the employee fridge. After that it was simply a matter of holding B and running to the right."

    1. Re:Tech secrets by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      Last tried I ate something glowing from the employee fridge and ran around singing a five-second loop of music, things didn't end well.

    2. Re:Tech secrets by Gothic_Walrus · · Score: 1

      Let's just pray that they remember to jump occasionally.

      After all, if they fall into one of those bottomless pits, that's going to throw a kink in the release schedule. :)

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    3. Re:Tech secrets by Tsoonamy · · Score: 1

      Ah... I see... must be something like this:
      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-213955537 6132383479

  7. Let the fanboy war begin! by GundamFan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The editors must love watching the various console fanboys and trolls fight over what will happen 6 to 12 months from now. I am going to wait untill a game I actualy want to play (MSG4: Substance comes to mind and no I don't care what platform it ends up on) is released before I commit to any of these systems. P.S. Someone pease reply to this message with something about how the 360 is out and "the best console ever".

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    1. Re:Let the fanboy war begin! by caffeinatedOnline · · Score: 4, Funny

      The 360 is out and is the best system ev0r! /peerpressure

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    2. Re:Let the fanboy war begin! by MrSquirrel · · Score: 2, Funny

      But like... the manufacturers have told us how good their consoles will be... I mean are. Sony says the ps3 is going to be $600 which means that it's like... $600 of awesome. The Wii will obviously be horrible because it's not the most powerful system on the market -- I mean, come on, they're trying to tell us that it has innovative games... I don't buy a console so I can play games, I buy a console so I can use it to calculate scientific theories or so I can watch the best-rendered cut-scenes. Is it just me or does the Wii-mote + analog stick look like a sex toy? (Hmm, I still need to rip on the 360...) The Xbox? more like... stupidbox.

      I agree with the parent -- save the fight until AFTER the consoles are out. Going off of speculation and theories is... oh wait... I forgot -- this is the internet :]

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    3. Re:Let the fanboy war begin! by payndz · · Score: 1

      (MSG4: Substance comes to mind and no I don't care what platform it ends up on)

      MGS4 is one of the few next-gen titles I'm really interested in playing, too. However, I do care what platform it ends up on, because I'm not going to shell out £425 for a PS3 to play it! Guess I'll wait for the console to drop to a reasonable price (£130 max) like I did with the PS2, Xbox and Gamecube (and Saturn, and Dreamcast...)

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    4. Re:Let the fanboy war begin! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the 360 is out and the best console ever

    5. Re:Let the fanboy war begin! by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      (Hmm, I still need to rip on the 360...) The Xbox? more like... stupidbox.

      Sorry, the proper insult is.. Xbox 306? Its 360 a full circle, so they just went around to where they started?

    6. Re:Let the fanboy war begin! by ZorbaTHut · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I almost always agree with this. I have the Three-Game Rule. Once there are three games I really want for a system, I buy it.

      It's looking like the Wii is going to have three games on launch day that I really want, though - so, if I get the option, I think it might be the first console I've ever pre-ordered. I've got to admit, I'm excited about that one.

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    7. Re:Let the fanboy war begin! by zerocommazero · · Score: 1
      I'm really hoping the best for Nintendo. They screwed the pooch with the N64 and were almost totally on their own with the GC. I'm genuinely excited for their new system, though. And I haven't been excited over a console debute since the SNES. Wii's controller will either make or break Nintendo. They can't exist in third place for much longer especially if the controller becomes a lame duck. Maybe it's this huge bet that they're gambling on that's really got me jazzed. Or it could be because there's some actual innovation going on instead of just a glut of rehashed franchise titles. It could really be their last hurrah in the console market.

      I hope they do this right and get more third party support or at least more desirable multi-console titles. What exclusive ps3 titles are out there? MGS4 is the only one that has me thinking about the ps3. Sorry msft, I just can't get interested in any of your systems for some reason (and i'm not even japanese!).

      I don't know if its the rose colored glasses I'm probably looking through, but I think the SNES days were the golden age of console games. I remember the deluge of quality games that made me spend all my free time living like a hermit in front of the glow of my TV.

      Oh well...no matter what your opinion is, the games will decide the winner for each of us.

    8. Re:Let the fanboy war begin! by JFMulder · · Score: 1

      I don't know if the 360 is the best console ever owned, but I think it might be the 2nd best console I ever owned. The best would be the original GameBoy (I can just remember that horrible Sega had that talked about the greenish colors and one kid took a bite off a frog, with green ooze dripping everywhere).
      I skipped a lot of generations (parent wouldn't buy them, but I can't say I blame them). I had a NES, GB and then an Xbox and now the 360.

      I found out that I loved GRAW and Oblivion, which are both available on the PC. But to me, the 360 is just the perfect console experience to me. You pick up that wireless controller just like you pick a TV remote, turn the thing on wirelessly, boot directly to the dashboard (or whatever they call it on the 360), look for a bunch of new downloads like game trailers or demos, queue up the stuff, then play your game while the stuff downloads. Then, go back to the dashboard when you are done playing and play a game of Geometry Wars, Astropop, Mutant Reloaded, WIK, or whatever.

      You can do all of this on a PC of course. But I do it from my couch, confortably with the controller in my hand. Just like any other console. Except I get to enjoy features that have been part of the PC world for years. While I don't approve the patching of games on the 360 (DOA and Oblivion did that... ugh...), face it, this is something that will also be done on the PS3 and Wii.

      Is the 360 the best console ever? To me, it probably is. I finally get to enjoy PC features on a 500CAN$ piece of hardware. And it's still going to run great games 5 years down the road. Can't wait for Crackdown, Dead Rising, Enchanted Arms and obviously, Halo 3 (howdo the second was a step backwards in term of gameplay) and the awesome looking Gears of Wars. And 4 of these are coming in the next six month. Whether they are good or not tough is something that history will judge. But hey, who has never been looking forward to games coming out 6 months to a year for now? Some may end up like dissapointments (Ninety Nine Nights on the 360 has apparently a buggy colision detection system, but hopefullyy that will be fixed before the worldwide release. Poor Japanese gameR (emphasis on the lack of an S :p) who bought it), but some of them end up great.

  8. But by neonprimetime · · Score: 4, Funny

    I heard it on /. so it must be true.

  9. Skeptiiciism by Kesch · · Score: 1, Funny

    I think that I wiill just wait and sii what Ninetendo says before getting iixcited.

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  10. Quarter 4 by docdude316 · · Score: 1

    They have repeatedly said that it will not launch until the 4th Quarter this year. I don't see any reason this should change. However, I do see an early October launch as a possibility. It would still be in Quarter 4. In fact October 1st is a Sunday , and ass we all know Nintendo loves to release consoles on Sundays. We'll just have to wait and see.

  11. I'm not really convinced this post means anything. by Mr.+Samuel · · Score: 0, Redundant

    How about you?

  12. Re:speculation by cowscows · · Score: 1

    Damn dude. You just disqualified yourself for the easiest job on the planet.

    Perhaps being an industry analyst is harder than I thought.

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  13. Tomorrow on Slashdot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dvorak's latest column on how the Wii launch will flop and PS3 supply will outstrip demand because the litmus paper turned blue in baking soda! Also, other highly unrelated speculative material cobbled together with tissues, tube socks, a turkey baster, paperclips and a rubber band! Tune in Monday for tips from MacGuyver on how to jump start a dirty old semi.

  14. September they plan to announce the Release by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 3, Informative
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    1. Re:September they plan to announce the Release by steveo777 · · Score: 1
      Oh, man...

      The article you linked to says that by March 07 Nintendo plans on shipping 6 million Wii's. That's fine. But they also said they plan on having shipped 17 million games... That means not even three each. Guess we'll have to share or something.

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    2. Re:September they plan to announce the Release by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 1

      Well, Nintendo is not going to ship 3rd party games. Not everyone who buys a wii will also buy every first party game released during that time frame. Plus, many games will be made available by Nintendo online which they are probably not counting as part of their "shipped" numbers.

    3. Re:September they plan to announce the Release by Deadguy2322 · · Score: 0

      Nintendo isn't going to be shipping third-party games, AND NEITHER will ANYBODY THAT KNOWS HOW TO MAKE A DECENT GAME!!!!!

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  15. Gamestop Game Release Dates by HaymarketRiot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was in Gamestop and EBGames the other day, and happened to look in the pre-order section for Wii games. Several of the games were listed as being released on October 2nd. COuld this be foreshadowing, or just a made up date?

    1. Re:Gamestop Game Release Dates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Made up date

    2. Re:Gamestop Game Release Dates by Mattintosh · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nintendo's release dates are all listed as "Q4 2006", and since October 1 is a Sunday (and therefore not a business day), the first business day of Q4 2006 is Monday, October 2, 2006.

    3. Re:Gamestop Game Release Dates by C0rinthian · · Score: 3, Funny

      But but... GameStop and EB release dates are ALWAYS rock solid!

    4. Re:Gamestop Game Release Dates by LiquidAvatar · · Score: 2, Funny

      I used to work at a GameStop (which is now the same company as EBGames). Those datse are bullocks.

      Now, this is unconfirmed, mind you... but I'm fairly certain that they get those numbers by rolling a D6 for every "a", a D8 pre "e", a D10 per "i", a D12 per "o" and then finally a D20 per "u" in the game's title. They then add together the total until they get the excel decimal equivelent of a date that's somewhere near the anticipated release window.

      It goes without saying that the release of "BMX XXX" really threw them for a loop. It was like Y2K for them.

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    5. Re:Gamestop Game Release Dates by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      So THAT'S why that jerk in my office has been playing Twilight Princess since March...

      Should've gone to EB...

  16. Market Share by acu_gumby · · Score: 1

    I still think that the Wii will be bought by more people because of the affordable price. If anything, after-school programs could buy/receive a donated Wii for much less than the PS3. It can also target lower income families who might be able to afford a Wii.

  17. Nice but... by blueZhift · · Score: 1

    It would be nice if it came out earlier from the standpoint to rabid...err...enthusiastic gamers, but there may actually be more advantage in coming out around the same time as the PS3. If Wii comes out at the same time as PS3, the stark contrast in price will be more apparent. And coupled with PS3 shortages, Wii could gain a lot of sales by being both cheaper and more available. Being innovative and having a stronger launch line up would also help Wii versus PS3. This also depends on Nintendo being able to meet demand too. If they come out early and then have low supplies when the PS3 comes out, they won't be able to press that advantage. But given the lower cost of producing the Wii, it is likely that supplies won't be as big an issue for Nintendo. This of course is all speculation.

    1. Re:Nice but... by Babbster · · Score: 1

      The "stark contrast in price" will be apparent whether the Wii is launched day and date with the PS3 or it comes out tomorrow. It will be even more apparent since Nintendo will likely be buying plenty of commercial time through the holiday season touting their price.

    2. Re:Nice but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that it's a good strategy to release this machine a while before rabid buying season. If it's true that "playing is believing" as they keep saying, then people are going to need some time to play before word gets out that the Wii is cool enough to buy.

  18. Re:Speculation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    But Microsoft didn't really get enough units manufactured for launch and Nintendo may have learned from their mistake.


    Is it possible that Nintendo is not manufacturing Microsoft Xbox 360s and their units/day capacity might also differ?

  19. Worst. Idea. Ever by RyoShin · · Score: 2

    This is a horrible idea.

    After all, I don't know if I'll have enough saved up to buy all the Wii stuff I want by then!

    1. Re:Worst. Idea. Ever by CogDissident · · Score: 1

      Better than saving up to buy all the PS3 games you want. Nobody wants a PS3 before 2009, right?

  20. Nintendo's Plan? by Cocoa+Radix · · Score: 1

    I remember hearing once that Nintendo was planning on releasing the Wii shortly before Sony released the PS3; I seem to remember that their release date was going to be adjusted such that no matter what Sony was planning on doing, the Wii would be released first.

    Perhaps, with the console-gaming world enraged about having to spend over half a thousand dollars on the PS3, Nintendo doesn't really care any longer.

    Can anyone confirm this statement? If not, where the hell did I hear it?

  21. Confessions by SimDarth · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have a confession. I am a Sony fanboy. I am also the target audience for the PS3... older, an "early adopter", professional and informed. I know that the PS3 is the most advanced of the three systems. I also understand that the Xbox360 CAN compete with it, though. Unfortunately, I also have a skill called "fiscal responsibility". That means I won't lay $60-70 bucks to play Oblivion on Xbox360 or PS3 when I can play it for $40 on PC. That also means that my new console for the year will probably be a Wii. After all, I was raised on Atari and Nintendo so I can consider it "getting back to my youth." Either that or the cheapest mid-life crisis ever at $250 or less.

    1. Re:Confessions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you for sharing this information. I'm sure there are many people who were holding back their console buying decisions, waiting for the SimDath's confessions post on Slashdot,

    2. Re:Confessions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree.

      All this next gen console war has done has made me want to upgrade my computer and buy a Revolution. I'll play console games (sports, platformers, fighters) on a true console where my friends can learn it easily and be competitive and have fun right away.

      FPSes, RPGS, MMOs and other solitary adventures belong on the platform they were designed for- the PC.

    3. Re:Confessions by aiken_d · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you practice fiscal responsibility, you are *not* the PS3 target audience.

      -b

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    4. Re:Confessions by John+Fulmer · · Score: 4, Funny
      Unfortunately, I also have a skill called "fiscal responsibility"


      I *NEVER* put my skill points into Mercantile. You're much better off putting more points into Block or Athletics... maybe even Acrobatics.....

      Oh. Wait. You're not playing Obvlion, are you?
    5. Re:Confessions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Out of curiosity, what do you consider "advanced"? I don't think the PS3 is going to come close to the Wii in terms of innovation, size, form factor, controls, or backwards compatibility, and I don't think it's going to come close to the Xbox 360 in terms of online support, and the Xbox has already won the "first to be released" game. As far as I can see, about all the PS3 has going for it is processing power.

    6. Re:Confessions by flickwipe · · Score: 1

      I have a confession. I am a Sony fanboy.

      BOOOOOOOOO!

  22. Re:Speculation by Megajim · · Score: 1

    From the article: "Because of manufacturing problems, Microsoft was not able to come anywhere close to meeting worldwide demand." The way I remember it, Microsoft forced retailers to sign a "sell-out" contract, artificially inflating demand for the product by witholding units. So it completely sold out on day one, and by day two they were selling for big money on eBay and everyone just had to have one. It was less a mistake on Microsoft's part than the calculated manipulation of consumers. Unfortunately, they couldn't carry the process through to the next step, as the warehouse stockpile soon disappeared. IMO, this served them right. Stop playing with people's minds and just release an affordable system that you have researched and tested before throwing onto the shelves. I still hate the name, but the Wii will hopefully be that system.

  23. September, eh? by Jerf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    September, eh?

    Maybe they're going to release on September 9th. Dark horse consoles released on September 9th always do well, right? Certainly, getting crushed by a Sony Playstation after release on that date never happens...

    Although, ideally, you ought to wait until 2009 for 9/9/9

    1. Re:September, eh? by SydShamino · · Score: 1

      Although, ideally, you ought to wait until 2009 for 9/9/9

      Late 2009 sounds just about right for the release of the next-generation Nintendo console. This follow-up to the Nintendo Wii will feature dual-screen support (like their award-winning Nintendo DS) further revolutionized for innovative gameplay in a home-console setting.

      They will call it the Nintendo Wii2D2.

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    2. Re:September, eh? by Babbster · · Score: 1

      You're kidding around a bit, but the route Nintendo is taking with the Wii could indeed permit them to go with a shorter lifespan (measured by the time between release of consoles, not their "active" lifespan) for their home consoles.

      Because the Wii is behind the high tech curve (not an insult, just true), Nintendo could develop a high-def followup to the Wii - still backward compatible - in a relatively short period of time but still be able to sell it for their more reasonable price ($200-250) because the cost of the technology will have gone down. That kind of strategy could really work against Sony and Microsoft who seem to be locked into their "best/fastest technology available" paradigm.

  24. Re:Speculation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Nintendo is a company that (always) trys to prevent long term "selling out" by producing a large enough supply to meet demand; in fact the DS Lite was the only piece of Nintendo hardware that has ever been in a true (long term) shortage position in Japan. With this in mind there are several reasons why Nintendo is starting to manufacture so early:

    • They could be planning an early launch in Japan; launching 6 weeks earlier in Japan could reduce demand on system/game sales enough to prevent shortages in North America


    • They could be planning a worldwide launch; if you are launching November 1st (to pick a date) in every region you'll probably have sold 1.5 to 3 million units by November 7th depending on the demand of the system. Knowing Nintendo I would anticipate 500k units to be ready for a launch in Japan, North America, and the rest of the world at launch with an aditional 500k being delivered over the next 4-6 weeks in each region; thus if demand is there Nintendo could (in theory) sell 3-4 Million units in 2 months but this would require most of those units being produced before launch.


    • Or they could be planning an early launch; if this were the case I would anticipate that Nintendo would announce it 2-3 months before it happened (to allow everyone to prepare)


    Personally, I'd bet on a worldwide launch where Nintendo hopes to break records for most consoles sold in a month (or two); that way early in January Nintendo can announce that they outsold Microsoft 20:1 and Sony 10:1 (worldwide) over the holiday period [numbers just to make a point, not real guestimates].
  25. All I know is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I haven't traditionally been a huge Nintendo fan but right now they've got me by the gonads and the Wii causes me some serious strife.

  26. If this was important, remembering would be. by ianscot · · Score: 1

    It's important to remember this is still speculation.

    If the news here was in any way important, remembering it would be more important, I guess....

    Still, your basic point is solid: predicting Nintendo's actions based on those of Microsoft as a precedent might be a liiiittle bit unreliable. You think? I think.

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  27. Late Release by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 1

    When I heard September I was scared, scared it would be delayed and pushed past Christmas.

    The Wii is going to need A TON of advertising money, more than either of the other consoles if it wants to "be all it can be".

    Also both Sony and Nintendo have a nasty habit of launching in Japan first...

  28. Re:Market Share by whoop · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The simple way to spin that so Sony/MS can think they are better is for the media to just talk about dollars of sales rather than number of units sold. Watch about a week after each launch, they'll tell Nintendo's sales as "10 million consoles sold the first day" and Sony will ensure the press releases are like "The PS3 had $500 million dollars in sales in it's first week, setting a new record for the company."

    And in other news, the Gates Foundation has bought six billion Xbox 360s for every person in the world, making the Xbox 360 clearly the market leader.

  29. obligatory wii-tarded puns by insideyourhalo · · Score: 0

    So Nintendo might not be able to hold back the Wii much longer? Is this news of an early wii a leak?

  30. They can exist in third place all right by ianscot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They can't exist in third place for much longer...

    Nintendo is profitable. They make money on their current consoles and games. By contrast, Microsoft's lost $7 billion in the last four years trying to gain market share with the Xbox and stuff like MSN.

    It may be that Nintendo needs more market share -- I've heard arguments either way. You could make just as good an argument for MS's XBox division being in crisis as for Nintendo, though.

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    1. Re:They can exist in third place all right by zerocommazero · · Score: 1
      But it's only a matter of time before they become unprofitable.

      The more market share they lose, the less attention they will get which will equal lower sales. The GC is in last place of the installed console base when compared to its peers and this is directly reflected in their library size and diversity. Their own quality games are the only thing keeping them from extinction.

      As for the Wii, my biggest fear is that their controller will be hard to use, which means less console sales and less games by 3rd parties. Their graphics are not on par with the other next gen consoles so that makes them look even less attractive to 3rd party developers who are in competition with each other to make the latest and greatest in a sea of games. I just hope they don't work themselves into obscurity.

      The deciding facor to ANY console's future is getting the majority of GOOD 3rd party games.

  31. Already debunked....sorta by Christopher+Rogers · · Score: 2

    "There's no change in our plan to release the console in the last quarter of this year. We are planning an announcement in September and it may be causing some confusion.'' - Yasuhiro Minagawa, spokesperson for Nintendo Co. Ltd.

    This comes after the CNN article from yesterday, which is pretty much just restating what they previously said. October also falls in the last quarter, so who knows, maybe they'll announce in September, "New console next month for $199."

  32. Re:Speculation by CogDissident · · Score: 1

    Rational argument? On /.?
    Get ye out of here, you compiler's exception handler event for badly written code!

  33. this could be really embarassing by swschrad · · Score: 0, Redundant

    if nintendo lets their wii out early.....

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  34. Re:Off-Topic by hex0016 · · Score: 1
    Dont frigging DO that! I snorted coke out my nose when I read that part, and that HURTS.
    Great. This thread has now been flagged by the Partnership for a Drug-Free America. :P
  35. Lowered Expectations of why Wii wins by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The thing is, console gamers have been preconditioned for late released few-games-at-intro consoles like the PS and xBox series.

    All Nintendo has to do is wait until September and then start an all out assault by releasing their consoles in certain markets, with full introduction in October, to complete total console domination.

    The main reason to hold off on full release is to ensure there are lots of games for many different types of gamers available, and to stagger the announcements so it feels like everyone is going Wii and noone cares about PS3 and xBox360 any more.

    Strategy beats tactics every time. Well, except when you've got the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch ...

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  36. Re:Rumor already denied, or Was it? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Nintendo didn't deny the rumor so much as say that we'll just have to wait until September to find out. Still, a September release seems HIGHLY unlikely.

    Expecting a full multi-nation rollout in September, with games available for multiple game genres might be impossible.

    But targetted city/region release with limited games in September, staggered for maximum media domination, followed by total system rollout in October is possible.

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  37. And Nintendo said, let there be Games! by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    I am going to wait untill a game I actualy want to play

    You have gone to the Nintendo Wii site, right?

    There's lots of games in lots of genres for the Wii to play.

    The only people who should hold out are people obsessed with FPS. Don't recall tons of games for that, just a couple for the Wii.

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  38. Re:Speculation by G-funk · · Score: 1

    I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your magazine.

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  39. Re:Speculation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's newsletter dude.

  40. Sony vs Nintendo vs microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm eagerly awaiting the release of the PS3, because then the price of all the ps2 games I've ever wanted will drop dramatically....

    Oh, and I'll probably buy a wii after xmas...when I find out how much they're going to charge/bleed us for playing the older nes,snes,n64 games on the newer system.

  41. Third party developers is where it's at by ianscot · · Score: 1

    As for the Wii, my biggest fear is that their controller will be hard to use, which means less console sales and less games by 3rd parties. Their graphics are not on par with the other next gen consoles so that makes them look even less attractive to 3rd party developers who are in competition with each other to make the latest and greatest in a sea of games...

    ...The deciding facor to ANY console's future is getting the majority of GOOD 3rd party games.

    The other side of the third party coin, though, is that the new HD-image games are far more expensive to develop. Nintendo is partly trying to counter that with the Wii's older tech and lower resolution; you aren't at the level of producing a Hollywood movie to crank out a game with this one, is the idea. Turning out a King Kong-level game for the Sony and MS systems is an expensive, and high-risk, proposition, in a way that won't be true for the Wii.

    What Nintendo desperately needs is to make the Wii, and its funky controller, easy for the third party studios to develop for. If it's clunky to use or to develop for, yep, Nintendo may be cooked.

    (My money's on: Sony and MS have overshot the HDTV market, which isn't as mature as they'd projected. This Christmas's must buy is going to be a Wii. I have 12-year-olds, I know what they're talking about at least in my kids' circle of friends. The kids who pooled their money to buy an original XBox can't afford a 360, let alone a PS3. I'm a Netflix junkie and love the idea of wide screen movies, but the HD monitor thing isn't there yet for me, not at the total cost of a monitor even before the $500 console. Sure seems like Nintendo's got the sweet spot this time around, at least in prospect.)

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