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Lawsuits Fly Over Google Founders' Party Plane

Mr. Soxley writes to tell us that the Boeing 767 recently purchased by Google founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page is at the heart of what promises to be quite a legal battle. From the article: "Now the Delaware holding company that technically owns the 767, Blue City Holdings LLC, is embroiled in multiple lawsuits with an aviation designer hired to plan and oversee the massive plane's interior renovation. [...] But last October, Blue City terminated Mr. Jennings's contract, saying he wasn't doing his job properly. Mr. Jennings then filed a nearly $200,000 lien against the aircraft with the Federal Aviation Administration for payment he hadn't received. He later filed a complaint related to the matter against Blue City and Gore Design Completions Ltd., the San Antonio executive-jet outfitting firm that worked on the plane, in District Court in Bexar County, Texas."

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  1. Doing the job well? by alshithead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Mr. Jennings says allegations that he wasn't sufficiently involved in the project or accessible to the plane's owners are false, and has over 1,200 emails related to the project to disprove them."

    Just because you have 1200+ emails relating to a project doesn't necessarily mean you are doing your job. With a project this size it could be argued that fewer emails mean you are doing your job better. This is the kind of project that requires a fair amount of oversight on a local level.

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    1. Re:Doing the job well? by Soko · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, his lawsuit defense will never fly. I'm sure it'll crash and burn in the courts...

      Soko

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    2. Re:Doing the job well? by TheGavster · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Company: "What is the progress?"
      Contractor: "I'll get back to you."
      Company: "I hear there's a cost overrun with X"
      Contractor: "I'll look into it."
      Company: "Are your guys actually doing anything, or are they just in my plane for the A/C?"
      Contractor: "We hire only the best"

      Repeat every day, for 400 days, and you have 1200 email exchanges and zero usefulness from the contractor.

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    3. Re:Doing the job well? by Rakshasa+Taisab · · Score: 4, Funny

      The /. equivalent of laugh tracks in comedies appear. With the help of subtle high-lighting of the funny parts of the text, you'll never be in doubt when you're supposed to laugh.

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    4. Re:Doing the job well? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 3, Funny

      But what was an anonymous coward doing on the plane?

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  2. Must be a slow news day by the_humeister · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the plane wasn't even remotely related to Google, the story wouldn't even be here. Am I missing something?

    1. Re:Must be a slow news day by alshithead · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're not missing anything. Must be a slow news day.

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    2. Re:Must be a slow news day by ThisIsForReal · · Score: 5, Funny

      Didn't you see the slashdot story graphic? This is about your rights online and it affects us all dearly.

      I can only hope that in this particular case, Google sends its lobbyists to Congress to change laws affecting how the FAA administers leans against aircraft so that all of us slashdotters with our own 767-200's don't have to worry about the judicial system screwing us over once again. This is about all of our ONLINE RIGHTS!

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    3. Re:Must be a slow news day by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, you are missing something. People who have achieved celebrity status or are influential are always more newsworthy, even for the small stuff. It's because lots of people are interested in their lives. If I have an operation for a hernia nobody cares. If Bill Gates has one you can bet it will make the news.

      Plus, we get an insight into human behavior when we see supposedly brilliant, rich people bickering about idiotic stuff.

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    4. Re:Must be a slow news day by the_humeister · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Plus, we get an insight into human behavior when we see supposedly brilliant, rich people bickering about idiotic stuff.
      I think we get enough insight into human behavior in normal everyday life. Besides, there are plenty of erratic, yet brilliant people. And I don't think their incidence is any different than the rest of the population. (eg. William Shockley, Howard Hughes, etc.)
    5. Re:Must be a slow news day by TopShelf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Exactly - this is about internet boom zillionairres squabbling like toddlers over their bling, more than anything else.

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    6. Re:Must be a slow news day by pHatidic · · Score: 5, Funny

      Think of it as tech celebrity gossip. Tomorrow we'll discuss whether or not RMS's boobs are real.

    7. Re:Must be a slow news day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This story reminds me of a poster I saw once that read:

      Great people talk about ideas
      Average people talk about things
      Small people talk about other people

    8. Re:Must be a slow news day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I know Jesus."
      That's nice. Does he do airplane interior design, too?

    9. Re:Must be a slow news day by debiguana · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, but with him on board, you won't have to ever worry about severe storms or turbulence, and you will be able to land the plane on any body of water anywhere in the world!

  3. YRO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How the hell is this YRO?

    1. Re:YRO? by Jerf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How the hell is this YRO?

      I think it's time that YRO either got re-named or re-thought.

      Clearly we need a "Legal" or "Law" section. But if YRO was re-focused back to its original purpose, that might still be useful too.

      (To forstall the inevitable "Why?" and "Who cares?", the answer is "So you can correctly filter the stories.", which is the only reason to have the sections at all. Someone can be interested in law stories like this and not actual YRO stories, or vice versa. And the purpose of these sections is so we can tell people who bitch about a particular set of stories to just filter them out, thus keeping the comment area that much cleaner.)

  4. Why is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously. Why should anyone care? Lawsuits and construction go together like oil and oil. A $200k contract dispute is non-news.

    1. Re:Why is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Seriously. Why should anyone care?

      Dude, this is /. Maybe tomorrow the story will be "Google founder's cousin shits green after drinking lime vodka."

  5. where is the ... by thrillseeker · · Score: 4, Funny

    WGAS tag?

  6. This will serve as a stark warning... by Digitus1337 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...for the rest of us concerning our modified 767s. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

    1. Re:This will serve as a stark warning... by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 2, Funny

      Be sure to modify the plane for max altitude capability, so you don't have any lawsuits flying over it. You don't want any lawsuits to be diving out of the sun and taking you by surprise.

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  7. That's not the half of this vast conspiracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I also hear Mr. Brin also had a dispute with his home gutter contractor.

    And let's not ever forget this gem from the article:

    Mr. Jennings says Messrs. Brin and Page "had some strange requests," including hammocks hung from the ceiling of the plane.

    I think stockholders should be quite wary of corporate executives reckless enough not to require aviation-class hammocks with wicker seatbelts.

  8. If this is a problem by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Funny

    arguing over who outfits my fuck off jet, its a problem I would be happy to have.

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  9. The only questions that remain now are... by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 4, Funny

    What does Star Jones think of all this, and is the northeast still flooded?

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  10. Hammocks? by lahosken · · Score: 4, Funny

    The idea of hammocks in a big jet doesn't sound unsafe.

    It takes real guts to use a hammock in an ornithopter.

  11. 1200 Emails = Involved? by DesireCampbell · · Score: 5, Funny
    Mr. Jennings says allegations that he wasn't sufficiently involved in the project or accessible to the plane's owners are false, and has over 1,200 emails related to the project to disprove them.
    I've got 1200 emails about Viagra - I'm not involved in cock-pills.
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  12. Slashdot Editors... by uarch · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Slashdot editors... Faithfully bringing you last weeks Reg stories today!

  13. Bah by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 3, Funny

    People think this doesn't matter, but one thing is for certain, there is no stopping them, Brin and Page will soon be here. And I, for one, welcome our customized-767-hammock-flying overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted member of Slashdot, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground server caves.

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  14. This is a rich person's problem. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know that a company is on the way down when its founders buy a 767. Buying a 767 indicates that being rich is beginning to occupy their thinking, rather than management.

    From the WSJ article: Mr. Jennings says Messrs. Brin and Page "had some strange requests," including hammocks hung from the ceiling of the plane. At one point he witnessed a dispute between them over whether Mr. Brin should have a "California king" size bed, he says. Mr. Jennings says Mr. Schmidt stepped in to resolve that by saying, "Sergey, you can have whatever bed you want in your room; Larry, you can have whatever kind of bed you want in your bedroom. Let's move on." Mr. Jennings says Mr. Schmidt at another point told him, "It's a party airplane."

    1. Re:This is a rich person's problem. by fm6 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      If Brin and Page are losing interest in managing Google, it's none too soon. This is a company that desperately needs to grow up. It has no collective attention span: dozens of kewl new projects keep appearing, but nobody can ever be bothered with the boring work of making them in actual products.

      OK, B&P wanted to found a company that did things differently. Good for them. But to do anything at all, and organization has to have follow-through. It has to balance all the creative geniuses with the dedicated, boring sloggers that get things out the door.

    2. Re:This is a rich person's problem. by fm6 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Google's products are more polished? Get real! My favorite example is to compare Google Maps with Yahoo Maps. Now, in terms of features and usability, Google Maps is far superior. But I still use Yahoo maps a lot. Why? Yahoo maps has a simple, not very interesting feature that I use a lot: you can maintain a list of addresses you refer to a lot, and then never have to enter them again when planning a trip. It's a very simple, basic feature, but nobody at Google can be bothered to implement it. They're too busy with fancy AJAX features.

      Which is not to run down the fancy AJAX features. Google deserves a lot of credit, not just for having kewl features, but forcing all web application developers to rethink their art. Great! But the boring stuff is important too, if you ever want to claim your product is more than a toy.

      Oops! I just looked at the new href=http://maps.yahoo.com/beta/index.php#maxp=loc ation&q2=675+S.+Sixth+St.+San+Jose,+CA&q1=4150+Net work+Circle+Santa+Clara,+CA+95054-1778&trf=0&mvt=m &lon=-121.915112&lat=37.362176&mag=5>maps beta version of Yahoo Maps. It's already somewhat more polished than Google maps. And I bet it doesn't stay beta for 3 years.

  15. NASA Ames & the Googlejet by Greg@RageNet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now you all know why Google signed the deal for office space at NASA Ames. It's not some expansion into the orbial launch business or some plot to be the intergalactic search engine. They signed a deal with NASA Ames so they could land their 767 on Moffett Federal's nine thousand foot runway biking distance from the Google campus. Must be nice to be all special like that.

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  16. Re:Do no evil - except when outfitting your 767 by mccalli · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This 767 story should remind us that the Google guys are no better than Ken Lay, the Tyco guy, or Marth Stewart.

    No it shouldn't. I don't remember any of the Google lot having been convicted for anything - there's quite a difference there. Also, I'm not American so I don't know who the Tyco guy is, but Ken Lay and Martha Stewart in the same breath? Wouldn't you think there was just a little bit of difference in the level of scam pulled...?

    I'm not a Google fan really. In fact, if someone would give me as clean an interface I'd switch away from its search in a heartbeat, as I find it too heavily spammed and blogged these days. But really...it might show something about the Google boys' characters, but it doesn't show them as criminals.

    Cheers,
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  17. Evil masterminds... by identity0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why does this remind me of Austin Power's psychedelic 747 with bachelor pad interior?

    Sergey: "Do I make you horny, baby?"
    Cute chick: "Sergey, it's not the 90's anymore."
    Sergey: "What do you mean, baby? Of course it's the 90's! As long as people use the internet mostly for porn and piracy of music and software, the 90's will always be alive!"

    Dr. Evil: "I'm going to fucking kill Google!" *throws henchman's chair*
    Dr. Evil: "So, about those Killer Chair Robots With Lasers I ordered..."
    Henchman: "Well, it's about that, sir."
    Dr. Evil: "Yes?"
    Henchman: "We... could not complete the LongChair project. It kept crashing on us, I mean more than usual, in fact the prototype blew up spontaneously."
    Dr. Evil: "Well, okay, what do you have?"
    Henchman: "Ottomans."
    Dr. Evil: "Ottomans?"
    Henchman: "Ottomans, sir."
    Dr. Evil: "Do they have frickin' lasers on their heads?"
    Henchman: "No, sir."
    Dr. Evil: "Saw blades?"
    Henchman: "No, sir."
    Dr. Evil: "Flamethrowers?"
    Henchman: "No, sir."
    Dr. Evil: "Well, what the fuck do they have?!"
    Henchman: "Sir, we have integrated a Google search bar into their sides. It's really quite useful, you can Google while you lounge in-"
    Dr. Evil: "I'M GOING TO FUCKING KILL GOOGLE!!!!" *throws chair with henchman through window*

    1. Re:Evil masterminds... by fm6 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Why does this remind me of Austin Power's...
      Because your brain is full of useless trivia?
  18. Re:Do no evil - except when outfitting your 767 by ScrewMaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Besides, if you're phenomenally wealthy I don't know of any law that says you shouldn't enjoy it. I mean ... what would be the other reasons for acquiring lots of money? Granted, a 767 does seem a bit grandiose, but no worse than the hundreds of millions that Bill Gates' has spent on his various homes.

    Frankly, I think a hammock on a jetliner sounds like fun.

    "Okay Bob, a nice gentle bank to the right ... okay ... now swing back to the left ... ahh, now you got it. Keep doing that for a while."

    It wouldn't surprise me if Brin and Page get a little miffed at this guy for discussing their private jet in public, though.

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  19. Re:Oh No Not $200,000! That'll sink Google! by winkydink · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You are assuming that no punitive damages will be awarded.

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  20. Re:Do no evil - except when outfitting your 767 by cyber-dragon.net · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Bill may have taken commercial airlines but shall we talk about he or his partners yachts? You know, the ones that are in magazines almost constantly because they are so big and so decked out? Or the small islands they own?

    Just because you are jealous someone else has more money than you do not tell them how to spend it. They made a successful business, and now are spending the fruits of their labor. How is that evil? Sounds like every American or European's wet dream to me.

    I fail to see where it is evil except that it makes you green with envy.

  21. So much for the environment by gatkinso · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why not burn 12000 gallons of fuel per capita to get to the next great party? After all, they will be dead on 50 years so it doesn't effect them.

    Ever wonder why American troops are fighting for Iraqi oil? Bush just sells it - it is clowns like this that burn it up.

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  22. Re:Do no evil - except when outfitting your 767 by DAldredge · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If I had a few billion in cash in the bank I would act like a spoiled child too.

  23. Re:i do find it funny by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is on their own money, not the companies.

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  24. Re:Do no evil - except when outfitting your 767 by Leroy+Brown · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How you spend money for yourself, and how you spend money for your company are two completely different things. Bill may have spent many millions on his own home, but he was notorious for flying coach, and only in '97 did he buy a personal jet, with his own money. I don't know who is footing the bill for google's new toy, but google has definitely always been about excess.

  25. Next problem for Google... by doppelf · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...Snakes on a motherfucking Google plane.

  26. Re:Do no evil - except when outfitting your 767 by Rakishi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And since the plane was purchased by the founders not by Google you are an idiot it seems.