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Parallels Desktop for OS X Reviewed

phaedo00 writes "Ars Technica has put up a great review of the first full release of Parallels' virtualization software for OS X, Parallels Desktop 1.0. From the article: 'Move over emulation, virtualization is in and it's hotter than two Jessica Albas wresting the devil himself in a pit of molten steel. It's no contest, virtualization has it all: multiple operating systems running on the same machine at nearly the full speed of the host's processor with each system seamlessly networking with the next. Add to that the fact that it's cheaper than getting a new machine and you have the guaranteed latest craze. Not even the Hula Hoop can stop this one.'"

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  1. Re:Where are the comments? by ZachPruckowski · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, maybe people are reading the full arti...oh, right, Slashdot. Never mind.

  2. "Hotter than two Jessica Albas wrestling" by Dystopian+Rebel · · Score: 5, Funny

    So Taco, when did Harry Knowles join the editorial staff?

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    1. Re:"Hotter than two Jessica Albas wrestling" by hackstraw · · Score: 5, Funny

      So Taco, when did Harry Knowles join the editorial staff?

      When did slashdot get an editorial staff?

  3. 10+ years later... by LinuxGeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The promise of the HURD microkernel with OS 'personalities' is coming to our desktops in a slightly updated fashion. But I still love the idea as long as my Linux and Windows can run beside each other and behave, it makes development much nicer.

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    1. Re:10+ years later... by MindStalker · · Score: 2, Informative

      And all the other virtual computing solutions to come out this year havn't done that for you???

    2. Re:10+ years later... by LinuxGeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, HURD was (is?) to be the collection of servers that run on top of mach, thus my mangled description. Virtualization is close to the original intent, and hopefully it will really take off when AMD introduces their Pacifica and intel has their equivalent. Both versions are due any time now, Yonah is supposed to be the first available.

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  4. Has it all? by chabotc · · Score: 4, Funny

    "..and it's hotter than two Jessica Albas wresting the devil himself in a pit of molten steel. It's no contest, virtualization has it all.."

    Umm i hate to be the one pointing this out, but i for one can think of some very hot things about Jessica Albas that virtualization doesn't have.

    Really.., can't compare

    1. Re:Has it all? by mcrbids · · Score: 2, Funny


      Umm i hate to be the one pointing this out, but i for one can think of some very hot things about Jessica Albas that virtualization doesn't have.


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    2. Re:Has it all? by maximthemagnificent · · Score: 2, Funny

      Uh, I don't think the Jessica Albas would look very hot for long in a pit of molten steel.

      Maxim

    3. Re:Has it all? by Rakshasa+Taisab · · Score: 3, Funny

      She isn't as hot as my macbook pro will be while running School Days under win32 and debugging my BT client in Valgrind on linux.

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  5. Parallels - the only time my Mac ever crashed by davevt5 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Here's a reprint from my Slashdot journal

    Last night I crashed my brand new Macbook Pro. I didn't think that was supposed to happen! All I was doing was:
    • surfing the web
    • listening to iTunes
    • installing the Opera browser
    • installing Windows XP in Parallels

    Yes, I am joking. Parallels is awesome. The claims of "near native performance" are indeed correct - in my experience. Parallels is what allowed me to finally make the 'switch' because my office is tied heavily to Outlook (and Business Contact Manager and therefore SQL Server).

    Parallels works as advertised and is recommended from one slashdotter to another.

    1. Re:Parallels - the only time my Mac ever crashed by davevt5 · · Score: 3, Informative

      To clarify, I mean that I'm "joking" to be annoyed by my Mac crashing when I tried to do so many different things - not that Parallels didn't actually crash my Mac -- it did.

    2. Re:Parallels - the only time my Mac ever crashed by Kittyflipping · · Score: 4, Informative

      Your post is from April 26, which means you were using the beta. Since when did we start expecting beta software not to crash your system? I've had a crash or two with the beta, but the release version has been as solid as a rock.

    3. Re:Parallels - the only time my Mac ever crashed by klubar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I believed you could have done all of that without the Mac.... so tell me again what you got with the Mac.

      Surfing the web: check
      iTunes: check
      Installing Opera browser: check
      Installing Windows: check

      If you want a PC, just get a PC.

    4. Re:Parallels - the only time my Mac ever crashed by anaesthetica · · Score: 2, Funny

      Surfing the web: doable on a PC
      Listening to iTunes: doable on a PC
      Installing Opera browser: doable on a PC
      Installing Windows: doable on a PC

      Being extremely smug about it all? Mac only.

      That said, here comes my Mac zealot rejoinder. It's not about what grandparent was doing, it's about what grandparent wasn't doing:

      Cleaning out spyware: only on a PC
      Cleaning out viruses: only on a PC
      Deleting malicious reg keys: only on a PC
      Reinstalling Windows (again): only on a PC
      Rebooting from a BSOD: only on a PC
      Writing apologist posts on /.: platform free!

  6. Parallels is Great by Over_and_Done · · Score: 5, Informative
    I decided to plunk down the money for a new Intel Powerbook because of Parallels, and I have not been dissapointed. I have been using it since thwy released the public beta for it, and it really is a great life saver. Running XP under 1 gig of allocated RAM and I cannot notice a slowdown on the Mac or PC side of the system.

    My only pet peeve is the way that the virtual machine mount USB drives only allows 1 OS to have access to the device at a time. So if you are on the Windows side and insert a drive, Mac does not see it, and vice versa. I am not sure if there is a way around that or not. But that really is the only annoyance that prevents me for managing the this seamlessly.

    I hate sounding like such a fanboy, but this really is a great piece of software.

    1. Re:Parallels is Great by jonbryce · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Could you share the drive on the network and access it via Samba or whatever OSX uses?

    2. Re:Parallels is Great by mrchaotica · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't necessarily have a problem with that, but it would be nice if Boot Camp and Parallels could share the same Windows install.

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    3. Re:Parallels is Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      You wouldn't want to move Virtual PC as-is to Intel Macs anyway. Virtual PC is emulation, Parallels is virtualization. Virtual PC will need to be rewritten from the ground up as virtualization for it to be worth anything on Intel Macs, because there is simply no point to running an emulator on the exact chip you're emulating.

    4. Re:Parallels is Great by thephotoman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, you can, quite easily. Configuring Samba is almost the same on OS X, save for the fact that the path to the conf file is a bit shorter (it's in /etc, not /etc/samba).

      Of course, I prefer using Bonjour in the guest instead of Samba, as it's just that much easier.

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    5. Re:Parallels is Great by jmauro · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Tell that to HP. Their Project Dynamo showed that in many cases running PA-RISC instructions emulated on on PA-RISC machine improved the performance of the program without changing how it was compiled. The emulated version can start to re-order code, change branching behavoir, etc as needed based on how the program is actually running (things like a JIT does on Java or .NET). So there is a place for Native to Native emulation; even if it seems silly.

    6. Re:Parallels is Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I believe the HP processor philosophy is very simple, involving little in the way of on-chip instruction reordering, branch prediction etc. Consider the Intel Itanium2 based primarilly on their architecture. It's primary failing was the requirement for compilers to be smarter than we can currently write. I.E. they would LIKE a virtualization layer, because the chip doesn't do that stuff and expects the compiler too. Thus the emulator is doing something that the chip doesn't do. I'm not sure that this is the case with a pentium chip, which has a HUGELY complex instruction reordering and translation layer already on-die.

  7. I have parallels running by Clockwurk · · Score: 4, Informative

    on my Gateway laptop and when combined with OSX, its pretty damn slick. If you plan on playing games or video, you should forget about it and just use Boot Camp, but if you're not using very demanding apps, its a godsend. AutoCAD runs really well, and its nice not having to reboot. If you are contemplating a virtualization app, be aware that you will need memory for both operating systems. 512 is painful, 1 gb can get slow at times, and 2gb is the sweet spot. If you are going to virtualize XP, try SP1 instead of 2. SP2 is a lot slower in virtualization (this was the case when using Virtual PC or VMWare).

    1. Re:I have parallels running by Dis*abstraction · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I hope you paid for that copy, you filching freeloader.

    2. Re:I have parallels running by suckmysav · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "So? What did Apple expect? "

      If Steve Jobs has any brains (and he does, being a nutjob does not preclude being smart) he will be well aware that OS X x86 will be hacked and "pirated" and he will in fact be relying on this to happen. Anybody with a hint of a clue knows that Microsoft rose to market dominance on the coat tails of geeks who have long been in the habit of "illegally" copying MS's various OS offerings, spreading the word and creating a *huge* install base for Microsoft to the exclusion of almost all their competition.

      Steve Jobs knows that because he watched it happen.

      He also knows that for each geek who makes the switch from Windows to MacOS there will be 10 non geeks looking on (friends + family) saying "oooooohh, whasat perty thing on your screen, Can I get that too?"

      Of course a good percentage of the non geek "switchers" will also "pirate" the OS and put it on their existing machines but a lot won't too. This is because OSX *requires* at least an SSE2 capable CPU and if you want it to run even vaguely well you also need an reasonably equivalent video card to the ones used in the intel macs. There are many problems related to lack of proper video drivers in OSX, add to those a lack of ability to do any Auto Updates and all the other kludginess involved with running OSX on non Mac hardware and you can bet that most geeks will just say "sure you can" and point their relatives to www.apple.com for more info.

      Successfully hacking an OS onto hardware that its not intended for is the very definition of geek nirvana. Supporting Uncle Ted when he attempts the same is another thing entirely.

      I run OSX myself on my Athlon PC. Yes it is "pirated". I don't use it much though as I still prefer to boot into Ubuntu most of the time, I just have OSX installed "because I can" but I sure as hell wouldn't stick it on my sisters PC without expecting to get a phone call down the line along the lines of "my computer won't boot up anymore after I installed something. Do you think all my files are OK?"

      No siree bob. My credo is, "if you can't figure out how to find, download and install it and ultimately fix it yourself, then you shouldn't be running it at all".

      So, it's off to apple.com for you sis I'm afraid.

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    3. Re:I have parallels running by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 2, Funny

      If he did pay for it, he wouldn't be a filching freeloader, nor a pilfering parasite, nor a larcenous leech.

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  8. In the end, I went with Boot Camp by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 5, Informative

    I bought a MacBook Pro recently, with the intention of having a single machine for home (OS X) and office (WinXP). I tried out Parallels and there's no doubt that it is a very useful piece of software. Waving my hand over my Macbook (accomplished with Shadowbook + Virtuedesktops), caused my screen to rotate into either Windows XP or OS X at will. The processor speed, because the Core Duo is simply being virtualized, is pretty much full speed. On the other hand, the Mobility Radeon X1600 GPU (with its 256MB of VRAM goodness) cannot be virtualized, so Parallels must emulate an 8meg SVGA card. This makes the graphics of Windows XP seem sluggish. Since I am transitioning from a 4-year old Dell Inspiron that is very peppy and snappy in the GPU department, I refused to tolerate any sluggishness whatsoever in my new ($2K+) computer. I installed Boot Camp yesterday and then installed Windows XP. After you install the Apple-provided drivers for the MacBook (including Radeon drivers), the system runs incredibly smooth under XP. The only special thing I had to do was install Windows 2003 Server Resource Kit (free from MS) to re-map my right Command key as a delete key so that I could use ctl-alt-delete to login to my domain.

    If you need to use Windows XP all day as your work OS (as I do), you will find Boot Camp to be the superior solution, if only for the snappiness of the system. I don't need to use OS X at work for any reason, so dual-booting works for me. If you only use a few Windows apps irregularly and will primarily use OS X all day, then Parallels is the way to go. Keep in mind that Boot Camp is free, while Parallels costs $.

    1. Re:In the end, I went with Boot Camp by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 2, Informative

      That combo works in Parallels because Parallels likely maps that combo automatically. "Pure" Windows doesn't recognize it, unfortunately. As the user of a Happy Hacking Keyboard, fn+delete would be my preferred method :)

    2. Re:In the end, I went with Boot Camp by mrchaotica · · Score: 3, Informative
      The real question is: is there any good reason why ctrl-alt-del is used as a combo for logging into 'doze?

      Yes! It's because that particular key combination is special: it has unique hooks into the BIOS, event-handling system, etc. As is often the case, Wikipedia is your friend:

      On a PC running DOS or a system that runs in real mode, this keystroke combination is recognized by the keyboard handling code in the BIOS and treated as the CPU's NMI signal, which, except for rare exceptions, invokes a soft reboot.
      The design of Windows NT is such that, unless security is already compromised in some other way, only the WinLogon process, a trusted system process, can receive notification of this keystroke combination (because it is the first to register the keyboard hook). This keystroke combination is thus a secure attention key.
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    3. Re:In the end, I went with Boot Camp by cygnus · · Score: 2, Funny

      Waving my hand over my Macbook (accomplished with Shadowbook + Virtuedesktops), caused my screen to rotate into either Windows XP or OS X at will.

      do you say "This is not the OS I'm looking for" when you do it? :)

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  9. Re:Wake me up when ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    wake me up when someone runs windows seamlessly on a stock PC.

  10. Yes, but will it run... by ZachPruckowski · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Vista?

    I mean, it doesn't do a video card, and apparently even the lowest Vista settings need a video card (at least 64MB VRAM, right?). OR do I misunderstand things?

    1. Re:Yes, but will it run... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2, Insightful
      But the low-end sticker "Vista Capable" requires a DX9 card with 32 MB of VRAM, according to wikipedia. And that's the ultimate low-end.

      Will Vista run on computers with less, just lose some features, so M$ might not want manufs putting the "capable" sticker on lesser hardware so that Vista won't look crummy? I mean, XP is technically capable of running in 640x480 16-color mode...

      32 MB of VRAM just to display/edit Word documents, basic web pages, and Excel tables seems like using Tsar Bomba to kill the mosquito that's keeping you awake at night. And those 3 tasks are what 99% of all business users need, and not much more.

      -b.

  11. Great. by Above · · Score: 3, Insightful


    So Intel can finally do what IBM developed back in the 1960's. LPAR anyone?

  12. Re:Games? by LinuxGeek · · Score: 2, Informative

    They did address the games issue in the article. It was 'don't bother'. He even had the tongue in cheek estimate of a 3dmark score of -30000.

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  13. I'm extremely interested in older legacy games... by Cadallin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Like Baldur's Gate, or Icewind Dale, or Planescape (Any Bioware Infinity Engine Titles really). How do games of this nature run under Parallels? Is DirectX handled acceptably for everything other than 3D acceleration? If so, I'll probably have to speed up my plans to upgrade to an Intel based Mac. I'm a recent switcher, and this is the only thing that's been really hurting me. I use my Gamecube for new games, but to relive older titles it would be awesome if parallels would fill the gap.

  14. tagged as "devilwrestling" by bunions · · Score: 4, Funny

    this is exactly what the tagging system is here for, folks. Two weeks from now when you wonder "what was that thing? About wrestling? I think it was with the devil? Or maybe devils?" slashdot tagging beta will be there to bail you out.

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  15. Re:Parallels vs VMWare by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 4, Informative

    Anybody care to summarize the pros and cons of Parallels vs VMWare?

    The latter is vaporware on OS.X.

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  16. Re:Different from VMWare? by PCM2 · · Score: 2, Funny
    How is Parallels different from VMWare Workstation?

    It uses a different codebase and it runs on a Mac? Just guessing.

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  17. Re:Wake me up when ... by edflyerssn007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    www.osx86project.org.

    2005 called and wants their joke back.

    Seriously though, people have been doing it since the first verrsion of 10.4 x86 was released to developers.
    -Ed

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  18. Now do it without the root window! by radarsat1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I do definitely think this is cool, but I think the next logical step... and I know this would be very tricky... would be to figure out how to run programs in the Parallels operating system in a sort of "rootless" windowed way. I guess this would be pretty much impossible without modifying the hosted operating system, but if it could be figured out, it would be fantastic. Imagine having Windows windows and Gnome windows running on top of OS X seemlessly, without seeing their respective desktop backgrounds.

    I suppose you could do this with X by using SSH into the hosted *nix system and running OSX's X server, but I don't see how it could be done with Windows...

  19. Shared RAM? by xjerky · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One thing that bugs me is tht you have to carve out a dedicated amount of RAM to each guest OS, even if you aren't using all of it. Since I don't intend to do much with XP I've been able to get by by dedicating only 128MB out of the 1GB on my Mac Mini. I wish there was a way for both OSes to see my 1GB of RAM and use only what's needed, but I guess the OS would need Xen-like additions, no?

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    1. Re:Shared RAM? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Informative

      RAM allocated to the VM is not real RAM, it's virtual memory space. If you are using the VM a lot, then this will be swapped into real memory. If not, then it will be swapped out. You are generally better off allocating more RAM than is needed to the VM, since then the host OS will handle swapping, which will generally be faster than the guest OS doing it (I/O is a bigish bottleneck with virtualisation).

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  20. Support for native NTFS partitions? by cmason · · Score: 2, Interesting
    So, last time I looked parallels kept the windows partition in a file on the mac partition. It couldn't read native windows/NTFS partitions. Is this still true?

    As someone with an existing install of XP (Bootcamp), it seems like a shame to have to two copies of windows to be able to dual boot (primarily for games).

    -c

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    1. Re:Support for native NTFS partitions? by mrchaotica · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was thinking the same thing, but I just realized: even if you could use the same Windows install for both, Windows itself wouldn't let you because it would keep complaining about the hardware changes and require you to reactivate all the time.

      (Product activation is why I still use Windows 2000...)

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  21. Virtualization is the ultimate hotness by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sorry, but by definition nothing can be hotter than virtualization as any powerful enough virtualization system can allow you to have N simultaneous copies of the thing you are claiming is hotter.

    Thus a proper virtualization system would allow you to have two simultaneous Jessica Albas, which I think was being hinted at in the "wrestling the devil" portion of the post. The devil I guess was a methaphor for memory consumption, while the molten steel plainly referred to the processor load and resulting core temperatures.

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    1. Re:Virtualization is the ultimate hotness by wilec · · Score: 2, Funny

      I suspect two simultaneous Jessica Albas would send my core temperature critical resulting in system failure. But what a way to crash....

      Matthew

  22. Re:WOW! Factor by JohnWhitney · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Parallels runs Ubuntu with no problems whatsoever. I use Ubuntu 6.06 on my MacBook Pro as my work development environment, and in general it is faster than my 2.6GHz desktop.

    I wish the X-server had better "change resolutions on the fly" capabilities (to handle going from full-screen to windowed mode), but I usually end up just displaying xterms from the Ubuntu virtual machine on my Mac OS X desktop anyway.

  23. Bootcamp? by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Informative

    I fail to see the problem since if you want to run games you simply use Bootcamp instead.

    In fact that gives you a better setup since you have what is essentially a dedicated system for gaming that can be tweaked out and then a seperate windows system setup for productivity apps that you don't optmiize nearly so much. It's the ultimate setup because a rogue game (or more like a rogue game deinstaller) cannot then wipe out your REAL data.

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  24. Same thing with Boot Camp by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2, Interesting
    ... MacBook Pro BSODed twice while installing various software. XP itself was installed by Tekserve in NYC before receipt of the computer. OS X itself was dead stable, OTOH, so I guess it all balances out :)

    -b.

  25. There will soon be more virtual PCs than PCs by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 2, Insightful
    As I've said many times before, virtualization is becoming more and more important (after a hiatus of 20 years when it was the norm) and ultimately there will be more virtual PCs than PCs. This means that ultimately, any PC OS is more likely to be running on a virtual PC than a real one. At that point it makes sense that software should be written with that knowledge in mind. Ie. OSes should have an API that allows them to talk to a host machine and virtualizers should have an API that guest OSes can talk to. This could make it much cleaner to do things like cut-and-paste between different virtual machines running different OSes.

    Of course it's hard to imagine MS and Linus agreeing on such an API. But this isn't a zero sum game. People might choose to install Windows because with virtualization they know they will still be able to run Linux easily. Bill Gates will still have sold you a Windows license even though you're spending most of your time running Linux. So it's in the interest of MS and Linux to figure out how to interoperate between virtual machines.

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  26. Is Windows capability on Macs a bad thing? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2, Insightful
    After all, MacOS represents maybe 5% of the market. Now software makers will have an excuse not to write versions of their software that run natively under MacOS, since they can just tell people to run under Parallels or Boot Camp. BTW, I'm not using/recommending Parallels until it can utilize a separate partition on the HDD - a seperate partition could theoretically give you the choice between vitualization and running 'doze directly if you have an app that does direct hardware access like some games.

    -b.

  27. Re:I'm extremely interested in older legacy games. by WombatControl · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't know about any of those titles, but StarCraft runs reasonably well, except for occasional problems with the sound cutting out.

    In general, anything that doesn't require any hardware accelerated graphics should run fine, so games that have a software rendering option should be playable under Parallels. However, YMMV.

  28. Re:I'm extremely interested in older legacy games. by refactoringdr · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm playing Planescape:Torment under parallels on my iMac. Works great. You'll have to fiddle with the graphic settings in the VM to allow it to change resolutions if you want to run it in its fullscreen glory. The speed is quite acceptable. There are a few graphical "turdlets" when you are moving the mouse around, but these are easily ignored (at least for me).

  29. I have used both by why-is-it · · Score: 3, Informative
    Anybody tried Parralels for Linux here?

    I have. They appear to be fairly equivalent, as far as I can tell. I run SuSE 10 at the office, but I am required to run a few windows-only applcations. I have been using various versions of VMWare for the past 4 years to get around that barrier. I downloaded a trial version of Parallels to see what it was like. I was initially interested because VMWare has been fairly expensive to re-purchase over the years, and Parallels is quite inexpensive by comparison.

    Both install via RPM and the install is pretty straightforward. I did not find Parallels difficult to configure, but then I have been using VMWare for some time, and I am familiar with the concepts and what needs to be done. The Parallels interface is quite similar to VMWare's, so if you are familiar with one product, you should be able to use the other. In the past, I learned the hard way that VMWare was a fairly memory-intensive application. Once I added an extra gig of RAM to my workstation everything ran pretty smoothly. I don't know if Parallels runs well with less RAM or not, but I would assume that more memory is always better. I have an Athlon 1700 CPU, and it can run multiple Linux applications and a virtual windows session without tons of paging or lag.

    Mind you, I only boot the windows VM once a week or so, and run it for maybe 15-20 minutes at a time. If you wanted to run something more intensive, YMMV. I have not tried to run any games via VMWare either, so I have no idea what that would be like. On the whole, I am pleased to say that both Parallels and VMWare both work really well for me. They offer similar performance and functionality, and both are quite stable applications. The next time VMWare rolls out an upgrade that I have to pay for, I will be switching to Parallels.

    As other posters have stated, games are probably the holy grail of windows virtualization. I would like nothing better to have an Intel-based PowerMac with a kick-ass graphics card that could give me all the benefits of owning a Mac, with the added bonus of being able to play my favourite games without rebooting.

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  30. And the Mac Mini prophecy is complete... by Lactoso · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I've used Parallels for a couple of months now (they just very recently left beta) and am very pleased with it. It's had (and continues to have some minor ones) its share of issues (USB support being the biggest), but this is really a tremendous product. It delivers on what MS Virtual PC promised - a fast, stable method of running Windows under OS X.

    Its potential for creating a dramatic increase in Mac converts should not be overlooked. To the point, I have a particular user (a CFO of a medium-sized manufacturing company) who spends most of her day working Excel spreadsheets, creating documents, emails and using a browser (webforms, webapps, browsing). It was a constant battle to keep her PC clean of virii and spyware. A perfect candidate for switching to a Mac, except for their base accounting system, which will only run in Windows. I got her a new Mac Mini Dlx, installed and configured Parallels with WinXP Pro and she could not be happier. She's running Mac:MS Office for Word, Entourage and Excel, uses Safari/FireFox for browsers (some of her sites won't behave on one or the other) and bounces into the other PCs on the network with COTVNC. And just a note to the non-consultant folks out there... It's always a very good thing to make the CFO happy.

    One of the things I like most about Parallels is their "don't let Windows out of the box" approach. Coupled with an (admittedly similar to MS VPC) easy to backup set of files, should anything go wonky with the Windows install, it's a 2 minute job to restore it completely.

    I can see this becoming a much more viable alternative to computer-savvy management level types.

  31. My (brief) experience by sootman · · Score: 2, Informative

    I just got my MB last week and tried Parallels this weekend. I'll definitely be buying it before the price goes up on the 15th. (From $50 to $80.)

    I couldn't get W2K installed* but XP went on fine, as did RedHat 7.1. Ubuntu goes on next, followed by SmackBook.

    Slower than native (AFAIK, all of Parallels runs as one thread) but still fun and very useful for what I need it for.** Each OS picks up another address on your LAN (192.168.1.105, 106, 107, etc.) and it's a lot of fun to SSH to a virtual Linux box, make a page in ~/public_html/, and view it in Safari on the same box.

    XP runs fine fullscreen (1280x800) and if you have your Mac set up to right-click with the trackpad, you don't need to do anything different in Windows--a quick one-two on the trackpad and I've got a contextual menu in XP. Scrolling also works. 'Command' maps to 'Windows key' just like when you use a Mac keyboard on a regular PC, so that also behaves as expected. Overall, it's great. Definitely fast enough to be useful--it's not like I'm on a 200 MHz machine all of a sudden or anything. Feels like any reasonably peppy Windows box.

    * doubly funny because that's the OS they show in the screenshots in the documentation) because no matter what I tried, I couldn't get it to see the CD--it just keeps saying "No boot device available, press Enter to continue."

    ** handy way to have lots of OSs with me, do testing, troubleshooting, etc. And FreeCell. There's still nothing better than Windows' FreeCell.

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  32. My experience with stability... by Hootenanny · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I installed Parallels on an Intel iMac recently. I created virtual machines with Ubuntu, Fedora Core, and FreeDOS (no reason, just because I can). All of them seem to work fine, except FreeDOS, but then in my experience DOS never worked well on my parents' Tandy either.

    I installed Windows XP today and everything seems just fine and peppy. The IT guy who installed it commented that the installation took less time than on some of the Dells he worked with. My favorite part is the backup mechanism - I now have a fresh, no-spyware installation of Windows XP with Matlab, SPSS, and Access all installed. All of my documents will be stored on a Mac hard disk by a shared folder. So I went to the Finder and made a copy of the disk image, and when I want to revert to a fresh image, all I do is delete the working hard drive, and rename "image copy" to "image" and I'm back as good as new. 8)

    I have one question for the forum - like many others, I wish there was native hardware acceleration. Wouldn't it be feasible by installing a Windows graphics driver that sends the hardware calls to Parallels, which then uses Mac native OpenGL to do hardware rendering? It doesn't seem that different from ordinary rendering in a window. This could be straightforward for PC OpenGL games, and for the DirectX games, perhaps the calls can be mapped to OpenGL functions. Perhaps with a speed penalty, but it should almost certainly be better than software rendering. You folks who know more about graphics rendering than I do - might this be possible?

  33. WINE and Crossover Office by Zobeid · · Score: 2, Informative

    Virtualization is better than dual-booting, but you still get all the natural disadvantages that come with WinXP. To wit: high price tag, vulnerability to malware, and bad karma from supporting the Evil Empire. There are a very small number of Windows programs that I would like to run, but this price is just too high. WINE and Crossover Office represent my real hope for the future.

  34. Parallels vs Rosetta. Which is faster? by Timbotronic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd be interested to see a few benchmarks on this one. eg. Photoshop transforms on Windows under Parallels vs the same on OS X Power PC binaries under Rosetta

    My best guess would be that the Windows version would be faster because despite the virtualisation layer, it's still an x86 binary. Might make for some painful choices until Adobe can complete their glacial move to universal binaries.

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  35. Re:Just wondering about Intel VT by arkhan_jg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Intel VT is codenamed vanderpool, here's a link to a pdf with a list of which processors have it. It's mainly the core duo's, and some of the pentium D and EE 9xx series. Core 2 Duo's will also support it.

    AMD's VT is codenamed pacifica, and as far as I know, no processors have actually launched with it yet, though it's due soon. I stand to be corrected on that point, all AMD's articles press releases say yet is 'due first half 2006'

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