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Visual Exploration of Complex Networks

jweebo writes "Seed magazine has a story on complexity, and how it can be visually represented with fascinating results. From the article: 'Complexity is everywhere. It's a structural and organizational principle that reaches almost every field imaginable, from genetics and social networks to food webs and stock markets ...Collected here are a few of the many intriguing, and often beautiful, images that illustrate how the whole is more than the sum of its parts.'"

90 comments

  1. Wow by Eightyford · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wow, a winamp visualization.

    1. Re:Wow by vancondo · · Score: 1

      Not just a winamp visualization, a complex winamp visualization.

      with blackjack and hookers!

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    2. Re:Wow by Eightyford · · Score: 1

      Forget the complex winamp visualization and the blackjack.

    3. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reminds me of Neuromancer.

  2. Let me just say... by The+Living+Fractal · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have a book, about a thousand pages long, by a certain author of a certain mathematics program (who I will not name here) that basically says the same thing.

    Translation for the 1000+ pages:

    "omGz)R patterns pwnz joO!"

    Really though, the guy goes on and on about his 'new kind of science' and after a thousand pages gets pretty much nowhere.

    But hey, it was complex, man! Serious!

    TLF

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    1. Re:Let me just say... by fred+fleenblat · · Score: 1

      I'm going to guess Stephen Wolfram's A New Kind of Science.

    2. Re:Let me just say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I'm going to guess "A new kind of science" too.

      To anyone that knows the topic before reading it you will know that wolfram is a pompous fool.

      He doesn't credit people's developments and gives algorithms he claims to be introducing new names (even though they aren't really new at all).

      It's not even a new kind of science. And no, wolfram isn't the messiah of this subsection of discrete mathematics. He wants to be, but he isn't. He is a leading contributor, sure, but he needs to lose the ego.

    3. Re:Let me just say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      often abreviated to 'WANKS'

  3. Is any of this new? by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 1

    Looks like a rehash of a (Horizon/Equinox) documentary I saw in about 1983, or James Gleik's Chaos book from about the same time. Nothing (new) to see here, move along.

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    1. Re:Is any of this new? by csplinter · · Score: 1

      Hitachi has been doing research in this area for years. They are very good at representing complex systems visually. Check it out http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/research/recording_h ead/pr/PerpendicularAnimation.html !

    2. Re:Is any of this new? by stonecypher · · Score: 1

      The book chaos has exactly nothing to do with these images; it's about the unpredictable nature of confluent dynamic systems, not the pattern analysis of data in a graphic fashion. It's difficult to think of a mathematically oriented book which is actually less related to these images. Please don't pose.

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    3. Re:Is any of this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Please don't pose.
      Or you'll do what, Mr pencil-necked homo?
    4. Re:Is any of this new? by stonecypher · · Score: 1

      You can do better than that. I'll give you another shot, on the house. Do have the balls to log in this time, though; that's just sad.

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    5. Re:Is any of this new? by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 1

      Who? Me? Or him?

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  4. Complexity is relevant. by Poromenos1 · · Score: 0

    This is nothing new. A picture of neurons, big deal. People are obviously more complex than their neurons, yet we don't give that any thought, why should I be amazed by seeing a small part of something with which I come in contact every day?

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    1. Re:Complexity is relevant. by askegg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      People may be more complex than a neuron, but not nearly as complex as the total and their possible interactions. With billions of neurons, each interacting with 1,000 to 10,000 others the possible configurations are enormous, yet most we do not act in such a wildly differing manners. I don't know much about chaos theory, but it mentions something along the lines of the sinple behaviour of complex systems and the complex behaviour of simple systems. Thinking deeper, I am not sure which category this falls into.

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    2. Re:Complexity is relevant. by cartel · · Score: 1
      People are obviously more complex than their neurons
      How so?
    3. Re:Complexity is relevant. by megaditto · · Score: 1

      not to troll, but maybe he means People = Neurons + Muscles, etc. > Neurons ?

      Also, in TFA's pictures they show Petri-dish neurons (i.e. not a picture of a brain slice), seems to be cortical interneurons or something, and probably transfected with fluorescent markers. This 'network' looks cool, but is really crap compaired to brain wiring. Like comparing a silicone molecule to an 11/780.

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    4. Re:Complexity is relevant. by Poromenos1 · · Score: 1

      Exactly, since people have neurons, they're obviously more complicated than them.

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    5. Re:Complexity is relevant. by cartel · · Score: 1
      This 'network' looks cool, but is really crap compaired to brain wiring. Like comparing a silicone molecule to an 11/780.
      I was kind of wondering about the pictures because the article says, "A typical cortical neuron receives 1,000 to 10,000 contacts from other neurons and contacts 100 to 1,000 additional neurons." In the picture it really doesn't look like there are any more than a few connections between the neurons pictured. Do you know if it's more dense than that in reality, or did the article mean indirect connections?
    6. Re:Complexity is relevant. by megaditto · · Score: 1

      10,000 synapses/cell sounds about right in a living brain. Some cells receive many more inputs directly, e.g. a Purkinje cell in a human cerebellum can receive up to 500,000 inputs from parallel fibers. It is impossible to visualize all these inputs.

      Cultured neurons, i.e. what you get after you put a brain in a blender, then thinly spread the goo over a 2-D surface, receive about 10 to 100 inputs, if that. In this situation, with staining and labeling, one can trace all the inputs a given cell receives.

      Neurons are extremely densely packed in brains to the point where it is impossible to visualize all the connections without serial sectioning and 3-D EM reconstruction (and that would take decades of technicians' time).

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    7. Re:Complexity is relevant. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean, since people have neurons, they're obviously more than or equal to complicated than them..

    8. Re:Complexity is relevant. by stonecypher · · Score: 1

      Yeah, Hitler, Mother Theresa and Abe Vogoda. Identical, I tell you; no difference in their behavior at all. In other news, we're also not as complex as the sum set of possible interactions of our atoms, or of a gigantic bag of legos.

      I don't know much about chaos theory, but it mentions something along the lines of the sinple behaviour of complex systems and the complex behaviour of simple systems.

      No, it doesn't. Chaos theory discusses the predictability locusses of confluent systems and the divergent behavior of attractors. Saying that that's discussing the complex behavior of simple systems is like saying that cars work by lighting dead plant matter on fire. It's such an absurd reduction that it carries no content. Please don't pose.

      Thinking deeper, I am not sure which category this falls into.

      Neither.

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    9. Re:Complexity is relevant. by askegg · · Score: 1

      1) Of course they exhibit different behaviour, they are different people. The point was, for the enormous number of possible combinations of materials that comprise a person - we are not that different. We are not even the sum of our parts.

      2) Did you actually read and understand the part that says "I do not know much about ...", or did you ignore that to make your point while posturing and big noting yourself?

      3) Please don't pose.

      4) Mod me as flame/troll/off topic/whatever

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  5. you know what by User+956 · · Score: 1

    Seed magazine has a story on complexity, and how it can be visually represented with fascinating results.

    I find that certain complex things are best represented as a series of tubes. Not a big truck that you can just dump something on, but a series of tubes.

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    1. Re:you know what by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In sovjet russia, tubes of series are represented as complex things that find YOU!

    2. Re:you know what by slowhand · · Score: 1

      Can you send and receive "internets" thru these miraculous tubes?

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  6. Same, same by Oligonicella · · Score: 0

    Must agree with limited crowd, so far. This is nothing new at all. Five somewhat pretty pictures. Seen much more elsewhere.

    1. Re:Same, same by kfg · · Score: 1

      Five somewhat pretty pictures.

      Beauty is truth, truth beauty.

      But beauty is born of complexity.

      Now do you understand why the EU Commision/Congress like simple answers to everything - and it all turns out so ugly?

      KFG

    2. Re:Same, same by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The existence of untruth is truth, so does that make it beautiful? So are both truth and falsehood beautiful? So the adjective is meaningless? Lying is more complex than telling the truth! The tax code is simple!?!?

    3. Re:Same, same by kfg · · Score: 1

      Beautiful, man.

      KFG

    4. Re:Same, same by stonecypher · · Score: 1

      The best part about you saying "yawn, seen it before" is that that's the same thing people are saying about your post. The difference is that the article gave us a few mildly pretty pictures to look at.

      Next time, try adding a joke or something.

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    5. Re:Same, same by pete6677 · · Score: 1

      Oligonicella has no sense of humor whatsoever. Just look at his posting history.

  7. Let me guess... by jd · · Score: 4, Funny

    You've been reading "Fractal Geometry of Nature" by Benoit Mandelbrot. Very nice illustrations and the section on how fractals all started and another on fractal dimensions were good, but otherwise the book was far too vague and had few proofs. This demonstrates Heisenberg's Writing Principle, which states that you can either know bout a topic or write about it, but not at the same time.

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    1. Re:Let me guess... by jthayden · · Score: 2, Funny
      Heisenberg's Writing Principle, which states that you can either know bout a topic or write about it, but not at the same time.


      Where does this leave reading about a topic?

    2. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I know what you mean. Someone told me I wasn't thinking deeply enough about Mandelbrot's ideas and to take a closer look at his work, but it all just looked the same to me.

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    3. Re:Let me guess... by stonecypher · · Score: 1

      He's talking about Wolfram's "A New Kind of Science." I tried to read the book four times. I can't get past chapter two without flipping out. The man spends the entire book wanking about how great he is. (That he actually is great doesn't make the book any less unpleasant.) It's honestly quite frustrating - I love automata and I really want to know what is in that book.

      But, I just can't stand it.

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  8. They don't present any information. by khasim · · Score: 1

    Yep, they're pretty.

    And they appear to be meaningless. Particularly the last one with Rammstein listed across from Britney Spears. Lots of coloured lines with lots of intersections ... and what does it mean? What information is conveyed in this manner?

    1. Re:They don't present any information. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, unless the layout algorithm (these aren't hard to create, by the way, just generally computationally intensive without significant optimization) is doing anything particularly unexpected or outright stupid with the layout, the graph reveals that for users of their service there are more people who listen to both Rammstein and Britney Spears than you might otherwise think, as much as that realization is quite frightening and threatens to crack the world in two. :)

  9. Information Architecture & Prefuse by Lord+Satri · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The article is a little short, I would have liked more more more!! :-)

    May I suggest Information Architecture from Peter Morville. He is also co-founder and president of the Information Architecture Institute.

    May I also suggest taking a look at Prefuse, an open source project to interactively vizualize organized information (still in beta however).

    1. Re:Information Architecture & Prefuse by thrillseeker · · Score: 2, Funny

      The article is a little short, I would have liked more more more!! :-)

      ...with a rebel yell?

    2. Re:Information Architecture & Prefuse by Krimszon · · Score: 1

      Some people can do wonders with Processing as well.

  10. Beautiful, wtf? by JakusMinimus · · Score: 1
    Collected here are a few of the many intriguing, and often beautiful, images that illustrate how the whole is more than the sum of its parts.

    Intriguing sure, beautiful ... huh ?
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  11. Tree of Strife. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ""Seed magazine has a story on complexity, and how it can be visually represented with fascinating results."

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    1. Re:Tree of Strife. by kfg · · Score: 1

      |___ Hot Grits!

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  12. old, old, old by kinocho · · Score: 1

    Reminds me a little to a documental I saw on tv like 10 years ago or so, the interpol was using a new system to correlate all known law offenders from databases in a boss to contact way, the results (although in only 2D) were most interesting.

  13. Complexity by entropy123 · · Score: 1

    ...was a big field of study in the time period I obtained my PhD. I was sucked into the field along with many others. The study of complexity gave me a fast PhD ... but really ... there is no news here.

  14. Wow! This is Unix! by Speare · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow, this is Unix! I know this!!
    --Lex

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  15. Large state spaces by GileadGreene · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Something along similar lines is Frank van Ham's work on visualizing large state spaces. He's generated some neat visualizations of complex transition systems associated with various protocols.

  16. Software like this for music? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like someone else said, this article barely presents any information, and from what it sounds like, people here have seen this all before. Does anyone know of any software that can present this kind of interface for music files?

  17. Everywhere???? by Itninja · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Complexity is everywhere
    Isn't that kind of subjective? I mean, what's simple to one person, could be incredibly complex to someone else. And as a side thought, does this mean that simplicity is no where?
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    1. Re:Everywhere???? by gardyloo · · Score: 1

      Not necessarily arbitrary. The last I knew (and this was quite a while ago, as burgeoning physical theories go), there are four main categories into which systems are classified: Two of them are relatively "boring" from a dynamics point of view, as they correspond to systems which are pretty much locked into static configurations. One of the remaining categories is interesting, but nearly "too interesting", because the behavior there is chaotic, in a specific mathematical and dynamics sense. The remaining category is fabulously interesting, because although systems lying within it evince complex behavior, they can be extremely simple to explain, and there's NOT necessarily "sensitive dependence on the initial conditions". This is the regime in which interconnectedness (maybe not TOO much, as more than, say, two connections per node can lead to chaotic behavior) can lead to feedbacks which make the system extremely robust and responsive to outside signals, but it doesn't fly apart into unpredictability.
              Some systems can easily show all four of these different categories just by adjusting ONE parameter (connectedness in networking, say, or an external magnetic field in the case of many Ising-type models). "Simplicity" might fall in one of the two "boring" categories.

    2. Re:Everywhere???? by stonecypher · · Score: 1

      Complexity is everywhere

      Isn't that kind of subjective? I mean, what's simple to one person...


      Er, no. Complexity isn't the study of things that make you think hard. Complexity is the mathematical study of the uprising of effects from complex systems. Some computer scientists are familiar with a subset of this under the heading "emergent behavior." Weather is the result of complexity, as are volcanoes. Mutation is complexity. Radiation is complexity. This is one of those times at which the word is different when used as a label.

      Complexity is in fact a fundamental part of our universe, if one subscribes to quantum mechanics.

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  18. visualizing large-scale information by Nick+Mitchell · · Score: 4, Interesting
    as far as I can tell, the article only gives one quantification of the scale these folks are dealing with: on the order of tens of thousands for that one case. is this what is considered large? the point of visualizations is to show patterns of nodes (and patterns of paths) in graphy structures. at some point, one runs into one or the other of various limits:
    1. pixels on the display: 2 million or so.
    2. insufficiency of the clustering algorithms: showing one pixel per node and random placement, or placement by DFS traversal? for trees, or for graphs where classification is the primary concern, then tree-map or "Csoft" views scale relatively well in this regard, but what about for more general problems?
    3. implementations (or algorithms) that don't scale: e.g. graphviz uses n^2 (n=#nodes) space for its graph layout!
    one must always think about the summarization criteria: what aren't you going to show? how will you indicate that summarization has occured? how do you denote drill-down capability? what will the form of drill-down be? what heuristics should you use to selectively deaggregate, in order to highlight potentially interesting subgraphs? for large-scale info, this is as important as what you will be showing, and how it will be shown! for our stuff, we have graphs with tens of millions of nodes.
  19. visual complexity by BReflection · · Score: 3, Informative
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    1. Re:visual complexity by Guillermito2 · · Score: 1

      Yes, this is a beautiful site, and they also explain the purposes and goal of each figure or tool. My favorite is probably this one : http://www.visualcomplexity.com/vc/project_details .cfm?id=5&index=5&domain= "Alice in Wonderland" as a visual graph that shows the interactions between characters, and when they appear through the book. Of course it will never replace the pleasure of reading it, but it's very nice for research purposes.

    2. Re:visual complexity by novus+ordo · · Score: 1

      OOOh I see one that's familiar: my calling network and my financial transaction graph...hey wait a minute!

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  20. Three words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hack the Gibson

    1. Re:Three words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      back to genmay with ye!

      TK

  21. Beautiful, wtf?-Bar beauties. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Intriguing sure, beautiful ... huh ?"

    A few beers will clear that right up.

  22. A blog about information aesthetics by Guillermito2 · · Score: 1

    It's here : http://infosthetics.com/ You can find there many more examples of visualization of complex sets of data. It's very interesting, and sometimes strangely beautiful. It is needed in biology for example, where any student can now easily check, in one or two days, the expression of all the genes in an organism (thanks to micro-arrays). If you want to make sense of these huge amounts of quantitative data, if you want to extract some important fine interaction that could be lost in the millions of numbers, you definitely have to use these kind of visualization tools nowadays.

  23. The point of visualization by espressojim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The point of visualizing data is to learn something that you could not do with the raw data. In all of the cases shown in the article (yes, I acually read TFA), I didn't spot an example where it actually showed anything useful.

    The first example with proteins: how similar are two proteins? If two shapes are similar (and please, how many proteins where being graphed there? One, two, five?), then you might be able to recognize it. If they are similar shapes, are they always presented in the same orientation in space? Does color have any meaning? Does this graph have any legend? If I gave someone who understood the graphs two proteins, what could he say besides "these are related" and "these are not related"? We already have wonderful programs to compare two proteins and say how similar they are two each other, along with being able to the estimate significance of the measurement.

    I'm not sure that the other graphics look more informative. They are all pretty, but if they do not convey information (and not lose a large amount of relevant information), then they are just a nice way to generate patterns for some nerd's tie.

    1. Re:The point of visualization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As someone that has actually written software to help researchers analyze complex proteins, I have to agree that the image presented in TFA does not appear to display any meaningful data. In fact, you can get prettier and more meaningful pictures from RasMol (freeware; I'm not affiliated with RasMol). 3D is fun for exploring, but you have to take it down to 2D if you want more meaningful standalone graphs.

    2. Re:The point of visualization by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      I'd like to add to your post by pointing out how humans are VERY VERY good at pattern recognition. It can be attributed to many things in life...such as our basic concept of time for example. But imagine if our pattern recognition abilities were taken even further. I believe there is a scene near the end of Schizmatrix (awesome book BTW) where there is a genetically modified race of people who have enhanced pattern recognition centers of their brain, and it talks about how it affects them, particularly in enhancing their research abilities.

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    3. Re:The point of visualization by glwtta · · Score: 1

      The first example with proteins: how similar are two proteins? If two shapes are similar (and please, how many proteins where being graphed there? One, two, five?), then you might be able to recognize it.

      I think you missed the whole point of this.
      From the TFA: "This network maps protein function by connecting proteins that share sequence similarity. Each of the 30,727 vertices represents a protein, and each of the 1,206,654 connections represents a similarity in amino acid sequence."

      So the point of the exercise is to visualize (potentially) functionally related groups of proteins, based on sequence similarity. I would guess that the color has something to do with the strength of the similarities. I'm actually surprised how unconnected the graph is, they must be using fairly strict criteria.

      This still isn't very useful in itself (they talk about locating proteins with unknown function on the graph - it seems much easier just to provide the data related to that particular protein in that case), but can have many great uses. For example, if you used the color to represent known, experimentally determined functional relationships, you would get a sense of how well sequence homology tends to predict function - exactly the goal of this, summarizing a massive amount of data to show understandable patterns. (Actually, this would probably work better the other way around: graph the known relationships and color by homology).

      The best thing I've gotten out of this article is the LGL tool itself. Seems to work pretty well, and I've been looking for something like this for a long time.

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    4. Re:The point of visualization by glwtta · · Score: 1

      Yeah, here's how these gene homology/orthology maps tend to look:
      http://www.visualcomplexity.com/vc/project_details .cfm?id=143&index=15&domain=Biology
      (I know the actual graph shows something different - just a visual example)

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    5. Re:The point of visualization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point of visualizing data is to learn something that you could not do with the raw data. In all of the cases shown in the article (yes, I acually read TFA), I didn't spot an example where it actually showed anything useful.

      I don't think you can conclude so easily that a visualization is useless.

      This plot gives a lot of information about the resonances involved in a particular annihilation process and their relative phases. [More info here.] But you have to know how to interpret it. Without training, you would not be able to tell whether it is meaningful or not.

    6. Re:The point of visualization by espressojim · · Score: 1

      The thing is, if it's very hard to communicate the information without training to interpret it, then you'd probably want to go back and refactor the design to increause the usability. Does no one read Tufte anymore?

    7. Re:The point of visualization by thedohman · · Score: 1

      From TFA: Different areas of the network tend to emphasize different functional classifications. As a result, one can infer a protein's function by the coordinate of the protein in the network. I don't do any protein research, so i can't get anything useful from seeing it this way, but I'm sure someone can.

    8. Re:The point of visualization by stonecypher · · Score: 1

      In all of the cases shown in the article (yes, I acually read TFA), I didn't spot an example where it actually showed anything useful.

      Maybe you should have read TFA more carefully, as it in fact gives two specific cases of utility.

      I'm not sure that the other graphics look more informative. They are all pretty, but if they do not convey information (and not lose a large amount of relevant information), then they are just a nice way to generate patterns for some nerd's tie.

      Do not confuse your infamiliarity with the data being graphed with the inability to derive information from the graphs. The height of hubris is to look at the part of someone's work which they present as pretty and to say "why, I don't see how that's anything other than pretty." Of course you don't. You're not in their field.

      Why didn't they give more data? Hm: maybe because they want you to buy the magazine. I base this on that the entire fourth paragraph says "if you want more information, buy the magazine."

      I suggest that you begin to distinguish reading an article from skimming an article. As your current depth of observation shows, assuming that when you're interested you read carefully of course, they give quite different qualities of comprehension.

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    9. Re:The point of visualization by espressojim · · Score: 1

      I think putting up graphs without even the kindness of a legend, labels, etc is not terribly useful. And while I'm not in the protein folding field, I'm close by in genetics, and we look at protein folding and how mutations affect active sites.

      You need to re-read this bit:

      but if they do not convey information (and not lose a large amount of relevant information) then they are just a nice way to generate patterns for some nerd's tie.

      Like I said in another post, these guys ought to read a bit of Tufte, so the graphs are usable. Unless of course this article blatently cuts and pastes only select parts of the graph that look "pretty". In which case, the authors of the article are the people who have rendered them useless.

      Thanks for letting me know what I don't do for a living, though, as I'd nearly forgotten and thought I was a professional chef.

    10. Re:The point of visualization by stonecypher · · Score: 1

      Thanks for letting me know what I don't do for a living, though, as I'd nearly forgotten and thought I was a professional chef.

      Huhuhhuuhu. Well said, sir. I believe I'll be stealing that.

      I think putting up graphs without even the kindness of a legend, labels, etc is not terribly useful.

      Uh huh. That's kind of the issue here, though, is that this isn't meant to be useful. It's pretty, it's a tease, and they're trying to get you to buy the magazine, which has exactly what you're suggesting should be there. It's marketing 101.

      You need to re-read this bit: // but if they do not convey information (and not lose a large amount of relevant information) then they are just a nice way to generate patterns for some nerd's tie.

      Tu quoque, senator. You need to re-read this bit: Maybe you should have read TFA more carefully, as it in fact gives two specific cases of utility.

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    11. Re:The point of visualization by espressojim · · Score: 1

      You need to re-read this bit: Maybe you should have read TFA more carefully, as it in fact gives two specific cases of utility.

      They *tell* you it's useful, but they don't supply the information to demonstrate that it's useful.

      I can tell you about this great bridge I have to sell you. Can you tell me why you'd want to listen to me and give me money?

    12. Re:The point of visualization by stonecypher · · Score: 1

      You are pointlessly combattive in your desperation to ignore that they're not giving you data for free in the effort to sell you something. I understood the data they gave. If you don't, that's your problem. And no, I don't fall for sold bridges; that's why I don't own the magazine.

      Enough with the personal attacks. I think I won't be speaking with you again.

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    13. Re:The point of visualization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stonecypher is an emotional troll. Please don't feed the trolls. This is obvious with his whining here in his journal:

      "I just got more down mods in three hours than I've gotten in the rest of my eight years on slashdot put together. Most of them don't even make sense; I'm getting flamebait on two-page long posts where the person I'm actually responding to said "I enjoyed this conversation."

      It's fairly clear that I'm being stalked by an out of control abuser. Pity of the problem is that Slashdot doesn't allow me to say "ah, it's this person who set *all* of my down mods.""

      Stonecypher, it is called being an asshole. That is why you get marked down. Now quit bitching.

  24. Here is it: by megaditto · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dr. Wolfram (of Mathematica) offers PDFs of his book for free here (or pay $60 for hardcopy):

    http://www.wolframscience.com/thebook.html

    I do suggest you at least glance over the first few chapters, look at the pictures.

    Also note that the guy got his PhD in Physics at the age of 18 I believe.

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    1. Re:Here is it: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Yes, he got his PhD at a very young age, BUT... He seems to think that he doesn't need to adhere (anymore) to the principle of how scientific work is normally communicated to others, i.e., through peer-reviewed journal / conference publications. Instead, he puts all of his work in a book that isn't peer-reviewed by fellow scientists before being published, giving him the opportunity to make all kinds of unsubstantiated claims.

      The fact that he doesn't cite others whenever this would have been appropriate makes the uninformed reader think that Wolfram actually came up with a lot of the material in the book himself, i.e., that it actually represents "A New Kind of Science", but fact of the matter is that a lot of what he presents has already been researched in one form or another by other scientists.

      He tries to refute the criticism regarding his "non-peer-reviewed, non-citing"-approach by simply claiming that his "New Kind of Science" doesn't fit within the normal way of doing research; which sounds like an easy way out to a lot of other scientists.

    2. Re:Here is it: by NichG · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Honestly, of the things that bother me about his book, that's not horribly high on the list. The main problem is, nothing he talks about has any ability to predict behavior either qualitatively or quantitatively.

      He makes no mention about how to crossover from a microscopic theory to his cellular automata stuff, so even if you can say 'wow, that looks like seashells' when you're presented with some new physical problem you can't just look up his book and figure out what the equivalent CA model would be.

      And he doesn't really cover in any depth the intrinsic qualities of doing things with a highly discretized model compared to continuum modelling. Discretization produces a lot of structure in its own right, and that structure may interfere with certain symmetries that the real system has - e.g. translation invariance, invariance when going to a moving frame of reference, and conservation laws. As such, these models tend to give you things which are highly unstable to noise (Conway's game of life collapses to interlocking horizontal and vertical stripe patterns if you add the slightest bit of noise for instance), or work because things exist within the CA model that actually recover those symmetries (but detecting if you're in the first or second case is again something that needs to be covered) - the spiral defect chaos CA models are an example of this, where you essentially recover some sort of continuum dynamics and the discretization doesn't kill it.

      I certainly have respect for the method of CA modelling. It can be incredibly useful in simplifying simulation, especially in the case where the full continuum approach ends up having operators which are very numerically unstable. If you can write a simple CA model for resolving the function of those operators, it can save you a ton of time. But I don't really feel that Wolfram's book gives one the necessary set of tools to do that sort of work. Rather, it might just give you an idea to try to do things that way, which is not a bad thing. It just means that even comparing this to peer-reviewed journal publications isn't meaningful because thats not the sort of publication it is. It's more of a halfway-between of a popular science book and a textbook.

  25. Gentry by unix_core · · Score: 1

    This makes me think about the character Gentry from William Gibsons Mona Lisa Overdrive who was looking for the shape of the matrix.

  26. Indie Music not so indie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the article

    "This region represents 'mainstream' music and includes many popular artists. Immediately adjacent is a set of points that represents 'indie' music. Thus, 'indie' music is not as independent as some might like to think."

  27. Network Visualizations and Computations by HMCTeto · · Score: 1

    For some more information on network visualization check out David Glecih's website http://www.stanford.edu/~dgleich/. He is one of the authors of the World of Music Paper mentioned in the paper. He has done a lot of work on visualizing high dimensional datasets. He has also done a lot of work on the computational side of complex network research. He released a number of Matlab packages that related to the subject. Also check out his artistic visualizations of the Flickr network http://www.stanford.edu/~dgleich/demos/visualizati ons/index.html.

  28. The point of visualization-detecting groupthink. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The point of visualizing data is to learn something that you could not do with the raw data"

    The social patterns of slashdot.

  29. Old stuff but way cool, still by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was working on diagramming complex systems (we called them "systems", not "networks" back then) 30 years ago. It was very interesting to see how the charts turned out. Also turned up some fascinating designs, as well as some other rather surprising effects.

    Too bad no one was interested in it at the time. Not officially, at least.

    1. Re:Old stuff but way cool, still by stonecypher · · Score: 1

      Yeah, probably because John Conway and his crowd beat you to the punch by 30 years.

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  30. A picture speaks louder... by Cicero382 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...than a thousand words.

    Really, you'd be amazed at how even the simplest graphical interpretation of complex data can really show up points of interest. And it's not difficult to see why: Humans' primary sense is visual and we have evolved some seriously complex neural algorithms to interpret visual data.

    A simple graph is a case in point. Now take a large amount of complex data and apply just about any process you care to name to present a graphical representation and you can easily see the overall picture.

    A very simple example which illustrates statistical clustering. Even with totally random numbers, you *will* find islands of apparently significant populations. This is a common counter-claim to action groups who claim, say, a correlation between mobile 'phone masts and incidents of child leukaemia*. Anyway:

    Generate a stream of random numbers and assign a symbol for n = 0.5, display the symbols in a grid and, hey presto! Look at those clusters!

    On a more positive note:

    We often use graphical representation in our work. This ranges from CTK representations of molecules we're looking at (xlation - pretty pictures with balls and lines) to grid based colour indexed representation of multi-dimentional data sets. In each case the point is to present data in a way that we humans can quickly spot potential areas of interest and get a "feel" for the data we're looking at.

    It's all good stuff. (Sometimes very pretty, too)

    * Actually, this is a good example of why I'm always wary of purely statistical "proofs". In this case the *science* (ie. proposed mechanisms for this) don't hold up to current understanding.

  31. Fascinating visualization on artists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a net musician I found the visualization of connections between musical artists very interesting, and wish it was better explained. Interesting how pop seems to form one small cluster in the corner while everything else is wildly spread out. If one is aware of more than just mainstream schlock, one will recognize some fairly abstract names on the graph alongside mainstream performers. What I don't understand is the very bright path leading from Autechre to Yanni..!

  32. ancient technology by peter303 · · Score: 1

    Mandelbrot became famous for the visualizations of complexity/chaos of the fractal algorithms in his name. Mandelbrot was initially handicapped by a very immature computer graphics field in the 1970s- CRT pixel displays hadnt been invented yet beacuse memory cost too much. I recall his colleague Voss(?) at the time first rendered Mandelbrot diagrams on alphanumeric teletypes. A square array of characters was printed where the amount of blackness in each character would represent a pixel density. When Scientific American printed a column on Mandelbrot in 1979 they caused computer labs buy new, expensive graphics terminals ($30k) and paralyzed many a computer system.

  33. Did you really read it? by cr0sh · · Score: 1
    AC, did you even really read this book?


    I won't argue the "peer-reviewed" argument, you are definitely right on this (although, why should every little bit be scrutinized? Wolfram was attempting to show the connections between all of the work, not the individual pieces themselves). However, I don't think you are being fair to the issue of citings.


    Had you read the book as you seem to indicate, you would know that on nearly every page of it Wolfram goes on (ad nauseum, it seems) about how he wasn't the first, telling you who originally did it, and wondering why they didn't see the connections (or why letter researchers didn't either). He notes that some did see some of the connections, but none seem to have seen all of the connections and implications. Finally, Wolfram provides copious footnotes and other references throughout the book that do reference others. The last part of the book (you know, the part that condenses about 1500 pages into 500 and is so dense as to make your eyes bleed) goes into even more detail and explanation, with still more footnotes and citings. He never once says "I invented all of this" - indeed, he mentions over and over again so many times how he is "shoulder standing", and upon who those are, that it is nauseating in its redundancy.


    I am not saying this work is a perfect book - no book is. However, it is the kind of book that causes a lot of people, learned or not, to dismiss it outright because it "didn't go through proper channels". These kind of books/research generally wind up in one of two categories after a lot of time has passed: the crackpot/delusional bin, and the "OMFG! His research is right!" bin. You and many others seem to be pushing hard for this work to fall into the former. I personally believe it will fall into the latter.


    Only time will tell, though...

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  34. You really should read it... by cr0sh · · Score: 1
    If you are interested at all in this (and by the fact that you have tried to read it four times seems to indicate that you are), you should really try to "get through it".


    I am not too sure what you mean by "wanking" - when I read it, I felt it was the opposite - that he was self-deprecating his research. He constantly refers to others research in the same areas, and notes copiously who they are/were. He does talk about how he feels he is the first to put 1+1 together, about how others have done similar research but never came to the conclusions he has. I haven't read all of the material out there on the varied and wide subjects, but I have read a lot (CA, complexity, emergence, chaos, etc) - and none of them ever came to the conclusions Wolfram has.


    His basic conclusion - what the book goes over and over with, nearly "pounding" it into your head - is that complexity can and does arise in nature from simple sets of "rules". He found one of these sets (I think it was 6 rules for a 2D CA that he uses as an example throughout) using Mathematica, speculating that the six rules were the simplest he found, but by no means necessary the simplest possible. This simple set of rules, given certain input patterns, he shows how it can simulate the outputs of much of what we discern as natural "chaotic" processes - wind and water patterns, weather, seashell designs, zebra striping, and snowflakes - to name a few. Furthermore, the same system of rules can be coaxed into acting and working exactly like a UTM (Universal Turing Machine). Imagine - six simple rules which can replicate any other UTM (including the PC you are using right now, by the way, given enough time to run, of course). He goes to show that even when you make the system more complex (for example, by adding more rules or extra dimensions), slices through the data set show that the output devolves into the simpler two-dimensional six rule implementation. This is the essence of what he calls the "Theory of Universal Computation".


    Yes, other authors disagree with him - including authors that I hold in high regard as well (Ray Kurzweil comes to mind). Who is right, who is wrong? No one really knows, but the code is simple to reproduce and play with (many have wrote implementations of it in many languages since the book's publication), so there is a foundation upon which to explore. It is a concept that has people frothing and gnashing similarly to the whole original AI debate (top down vs. bottom up, hard vs. soft). I think that some interesting discoveries and applications could come from the idea if we would quit nit-picking at its flaws, whatever they may be, and actually start trying to apply and explore the concepts.


    Try reading it again - if you have to skip sections because of boredom or whatever, then do so (it is written in such a way that it doesn't need to be read 100 percent linearly). After you finish (or not, as the case may be), I could reccommend to you a whole host of other books to read on similar (and I tend to believe related) subjects (if you are interested, email me - I have also posted these lists here before on /. - look at my old posting history to find them).

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    1. Re:You really should read it... by stonecypher · · Score: 1

      I am not too sure what you mean by "wanking" - when I read it, I felt it was the opposite - that he was self-deprecating his research.

      You are the first of several hundred people I know who've read that book to claim it was anything other than offensively self-aggrandizing, and this slashdot article shows dozens of people who see it the way that I do. At several points he claims the book is the most important in the history of science, that he's more important to mathematics than Leibniz or Euler, and even that he's now got the importance of Isaac Newton. And you think he's being self deprecating?

      That said, given that you don't seem to know what self deprecating means, I suppose I'm not too surprised.

      He does talk about how he feels he is the first to put 1+1 together

      Actually, he attributes that to John Conway. This is an error - automaton research goes back to the seventh century BC - but Conway is a reasonable modern-era candidate.

      and none of them ever came to the conclusions Wolfram has.

      That's funny. Essentially every review I've read has pointed to a litany of books that beat Wolfram to the punch. I can name several off of the top of my head that cover all the ground you're quoting.

      is that complexity can and does arise in nature from simple sets of "rules"

      I really doubt that's his point. He had moved past emergent behavior before the end of chapter 1, and that wouldn't be at all new. Indeed, that automatons can be used as a Turing machine has been well known since 30 years before Wolfram was born, so I really, really doubt that was Wolfram's point for that huge assed book.

      he shows how it can simulate the outputs of much of what we discern as natural "chaotic" processes - wind and water patterns, weather, seashell designs, zebra striping, and snowflakes - to name a few.

      No. This has been well known since 1940. Wolfram is not so ill-read that he would think this news. I'm beginning to believe that you read the introduction, gave up, and are now trying to sound more aware than you actually are.

      He goes to show that even when you make the system more complex (for example, by adding more rules or extra dimensions), slices through the data set show that the output devolves into the simpler two-dimensional six rule implementation. This is the essence of what he calls the "Theory of Universal Computation".

      No, douche. The Theory of Universal Computation was the work of Alan Turing as the basis of the Universal Turing Machine in 1936 (arguably derived from Godel's work on symbolic logic,) and was reformulated into the Church-Turing Thesis by Stephen Kleene in 1943. No significant progress has been made since David Deutsch's Quantum ToUC in 1985. Wolfram's book does not define this 70-year-old principle. Furthermore, the ToUC states that a computer can be devolved into a single dimensional state machine, not a two-dimensional state machine; you really should find out what the Turing Machine is, since it's not an abstract concept at all, and if you're willing to assume practical lengths for the infinite tape can actually be manufactured with about twenty bucks of parts from Radio Shack.

      It becomes clear that you don't actually understand what you're talking about.

      Yes, other authors disagree with him - including authors that I hold in high regard as well (Ray Kurzweil comes to mind).

      Kurzweil is little better than a science fiction author; you might as well be quoting Marvin Minsky. They're both douchebags whose primary contributions to the field have been getting people's interest; they are effectively just megaphones. Start by reading John Haugeland - he's about as good an AI researcher as you can get tabs on without an existing in-depth knowledge. Haugeland has the rare benefit of citing strong authors on both sides of an opinion, meaning that whether or not you agree with him, you can follow his recommendations to find real researchers to lea

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