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Ripeness Sticker Coming to Supermarket Fruit

Adam Weiss writes "A biosystems engineering professor has just announced a "ripeness sticker" for fruit. According to this AP article, grocers throw out thousands of bushels of fruit a year because it ripens too fast (1 bushel is about 9 U.S. gallons). Mark Riley's RediRipe stickers turn from white to blue as fruit ripens. The stickers react with ethylene gas, a chemical which is released as fruit or vegetables ripen. However the article says "there are still bugs to be worked out: The stickers do not change color to reflect an overripe or rotten piece of fruit. Also, not all fruit produces enough ethylene to be detected by the sticker.""

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  1. Metric by CRCulver · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...1 bushel is about 9 US gallons...

    It would have been friendly of the editors to provide a metric equivalent for the large percentage of their readership outside of the United States. Running GNU units on 1 bushel tells me that it is just over 35 liters.

    1. Re:Metric by baywulf · · Score: 3, Informative

      You could have typed "bushels to liters" in Google and gotten the conversion in a few seconds.

    2. Re:Metric by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The conversions everyone is giving are useless.
      The original article never gave a measurement of the number of fruit thrown out it mearly stated "thousands of bushels", which is akin to saying "lots of fruit".

      I'm hoping lots isn't a unit of some sort or some slashdotter will try and convert it :P

    3. Re:Metric by benna · · Score: 3, Funny

      1 lot = 12.8 grams, but unfortunately this is a measure of mass, not volume.

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    4. Re:Metric by Lazbien · · Score: 3, Funny

      The metric system is the tool of the devil! (Slash the members of the Commonwealth.)

      I'm more concerned about how many hogsheads to the bushel. Now that I know I can get 6.77 hogshead to the bushel, I understand.

    5. Re:Metric by Basehart · · Score: 3, Funny

      Best way is not to think about how many Bushells equals a Quart Etc., instead think about having peeling yet another sticker off your food before you can eat it.

      How about a ripeness sticker that flips into an alternate universe where people like stickers on their fruit as soon as it senses my mouth getting near!!

    6. Re:Metric by Mikkeles · · Score: 3, Funny
      'I wish Google would do conversions for football fields ....'

      Is that Canadian football, U.S. football, soccer football, or Rugby football?

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  2. Fudged? by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wouldn't businesses be tempted to fudge the stickers to sell more fruit? They use red die on meat.

    1. Re:Fudged? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Informative
      It was carbon dioxide.

      Actually, they use carbon monoxide for that.

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  3. Thanks for the conversion by Frogbert · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thanks for the conversion but why would you measure fruit in gallons or bushels? Perhaps some measure of mass would be more appropriate, say Kilograms, Pounds, Tons or Tonnes.

    1. Re:Thanks for the conversion by techno-vampire · · Score: 4, Informative

      Why do they measure fruit in bushels? It's simple: that's the traditional measurement in the US, and the article was written in the US for the US market.

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    2. Re:Thanks for the conversion by kfg · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm just wondering who, way back in the days of yore, decided it would be better to measure fruit by liquid measurements and not by their mass.

      The farmers who told the Mexicans they'd give 'em a dime for every basket they filled.

      And buyers who came in and said "How much to fill this basket?"

      A cord of wood is how much you can fit in a farm cart.

      It's not a "liquid" measure. It's a farmer's dry goods measure, based on the tools they used to carry the goods.

      KFG

  4. Won't Work by DumbSwede · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And this will save grocers money how?
    Pay more for the stickers.
    Throw out more fruit as people only choose the least ripe.

    1. Re:Won't Work by Marcos+Eliziario · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well... Think the other way: Even loving pineapple and mango, I never buy these fruits, because I am an incompetent bastard that never know if they are ripe enough to be eaten. After some experiences buying pineapples acid enough to make me cry, I stopped buying those fruits. So, I'd definitelly would buy more fruits if I had some way of knowing if they are already ripe.

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    2. Re:Won't Work by RajivSLK · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You should try pineapples again. I've noticed that the qaulity has drastically improved in the last three or four years. Probably the result of improved logistics and shipping.

    3. Re:Won't Work by Mike_K · · Score: 5, Informative

      Here's a trick I learned about buying a pineapple: try to pull out a leaf. If it comes out easily and at the base of the leaf, it's ripe. Otherwise, it's not.

      Enjoy sweet sweet pineapples!

      m

    4. Re:Won't Work by will_die · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well for pineaple this sticker would not work.
      Pineapple will not ripen after picked, it will start, at the base, to turn yellowish and indication that the flesh is getting softer, rotting which you want some of. While that would produce etheyle it would not get any better tasting. The pulling of the leaf test will kind of work it misses the reason behind it. You want a pineapple that is heavy for its weight, it has alot of water in it, and is still fresh so the crown is still green and the leaves have not dried out.
      However the best indication for a good pineapple is to find out where it comes from, usally shown on a sticker or sign in store, and then know the temperature of that place. Since pineapple cannot be frozen or stored long time, reason you have canned ones, it has to come to the store from the fields. Pineapple picked during the colder time has more acid and less suger, thoses picked during the summer have more suger. So with you knowing the location where it was picked and if the plant is still fresh you can make a guess of when it was picked and how it will taste.

      As for mangos they could use the sticker since they are best eaten when they are producing alarge amount of ethylene. However with mango you can detect that your self by smelling the fruit, if you get a strong smell it is ripe and ready to be eaten. Also mangos will ripen on the shelf, or using the old paper bag to speed up the process(larger consentration of ethylene causes them to ripen faster).

    5. Re:Won't Work by SCPRedMage · · Score: 5, Funny
      You want a pineapple that is heavy for its weight
      WTF?
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    6. Re:Won't Work by Scarblac · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, the result of genetical engineering (or at least, good old selective breeding). Wikipedia says:

      At one time, most canned and fresh pineapples were produced on Smooth Cayenne plants. Since about 2000, the most common fresh pineapple fruit found in U.S. and European supermarkets is a low-acid hybrid that was developed in Hawaii in the early 1970s.

      Look for brand names like 'Del Monte Extra Sweet Pineapple Gold' and you know you have the sweet version.

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  5. over-ripe by $FFh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why not use two stickers, or two halves of one sticker, that react at different rates?

    One half would indicate ripeness, the other over-ripeness.

  6. What about nearby fruit? by brandorf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So you have a pile of fruit, each with this sticker. If the chemical these stickers detect is a gas, how do I, the consumer, know that the sticker changed color because *this* fruit is ripe, and not the one next to it? If said fruit was tossed in a crate and shipped, would all the stickers turn?

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    1. Re:What about nearby fruit? by wjsroot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      maybe the sticker has the reative material on the underside and the color chaning material on above? two reactions?
      I'm not a chemical engineer but that sounds rather complex compaired with just picking up the food, looking at it, feeling if its firm, etc.

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    2. Re:What about nearby fruit? by profet · · Score: 4, Informative

      I've seen this technology before. The fruit was pears and they were sold in fours in a clear plastic packaging. The packaging was square shaped with each pear sitting in a corner. The top was domed and on the inside of the packaging was the sticker. I believe the discovery channel had a piece about this last year.

      Here is the video:
      VIDEO

    3. Re:What about nearby fruit? by kfg · · Score: 4, Informative

      The gas is actually a ripening agent. Its function is to make all the fruit in the same vicinity ripen at about the same time. Want your bananas to ripen faster? Stick 'em in a bag. The bag holds in the gas, which concentrates, quickening and syncronizing the ripening.

      Stick a fruit that's a bit riper in a crate? The others will start catching up, because of the gas released by the riper fruit.

      One bad apple. . .

      That's why they try not to do that when they pack 'em.

      KFG

  7. I'll just... by aniceyoungman · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...use the old-fashioned method, scratch and sniff.

  8. Not to be overly obvious or anything... by zCyl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But why not just look at the fruit itself?

  9. What about underripe fruit by LarsWestergren · · Score: 4, Informative

    Interesting, in Sweden just a day ago a newspaper reported that they had tested fruits and vegetables sold in Sweden with a refractometer, and out of 120 tests on produce sold in different stores, 64 were poor and 56 average, not a single fruit or veggie were "good" or "exceptional".

    The low Brix numbers measured indicate poor taste and nutrient levels, and are caused by too early harvesting, and speeding up growth with fertilizers and greenhouses (not enough time to accumulate nutrients from earth). Understandable, since this lowers risk for producers and allows them to ship long distances, for instance from New Zealand or Argentina. But consumers pay, because you need to eat more fruit and veg to get the beneficial effects, and they don't taste as well.

    Note that this newspaper is very pro-trade, pro-globalization and generally rightwing.

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    1. Re:What about underripe fruit by Threni · · Score: 3, Insightful

      > But consumers pay, because you need to eat more fruit and veg to get the beneficial effects, and
      > they don't taste as well.

      Sensible consumers don't pay. Not at the supermarket, anyway. Don't get me wrong - supermarkets are good at some things. But the fruit and veg sections are terrible, here in the UK as well. The produce is picked long before it's ripe, the idea presumably being that it'll ripen by the time it's purchased, but produce doesn't work that way, so what you get is a hard, tasteless pair, or an apple that's `fluffy` because the low temperatures used to prevent decay have damaged the cells of the fruit. You're better off going to your local greengrocer/market, if you can find one that doesn't only have lower quality stuff.

  10. whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Anybody who buys fruit regularly can tell how ripe it is by touching it. I've been making a lot of smoothies this summer and I can pretty much tell what a banana, peach, or mango will taste like with a very gentle squeeze. I'm okay with tomatoes but it seems like they vary.. sometimes they are hard but ready to eat. (My girlfriend can explain.. just kidding).

    And actually, I don't see how this sticker will reduce the amount fruit the grocers have to throw out.

  11. Finally something I know about! by Sargeant+Slaughter · · Score: 5, Informative

    SO I;m probably one of the only people that visists this site that actually was a "journeyman" produce guy and have dealt with ordering and throwing out massive quatities of produce for various stores (Vons, Henrys, and Bristol Farms). Any good produce manager already knows what he's got in his cooler and how ripe it is, without some sticker to mislead him. Sometimes different fruit give off different amounts of gas at the same ripeness level depending on where it was grown, how long in it was in cold storage, etc... Since produce is in the USA is constantly coming in from all over the world, I don't think these stickers would be very reliable. Also I don't think the stickers would help much with waste because buyers over order on purpose when they can get a good deal. Buyers and district managers will push the dept managers to order more as well to get it outta the warehouse before it goes bad too. A lot of the time, (unlike other grocery items) produce sales (5 grapefruit for a dollar etc...) are based on availability of particular crops at good prices. THe buyer will order a crapload, the chain puts 'em on sale and hope that the product sells before they go bad. Cold storage can make some produce items last surprisingly long (several months sometimes) but a LOT of the time stores end up throwing out tons of the stuff, totally wasteful, but hey thats capitalism! I think the only thing these stickers would be good for would be to inform customers that don't know when their fruit is ripe. However, the afformentioned problems would still arise and it is doubtful that they would be very reliable. I think this was mentioned in the article, but don't know for sure cause I don't have time to read it - typical /. style ;-)

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    1. Re:Finally something I know about! by Sargeant+Slaughter · · Score: 4, Funny

      Please don't wreck me for the formatting, I forgot how anal /. is... God, it's like a bunch of linux nerds run this place!

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    2. Re:Finally something I know about! by RajivSLK · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Please don't wreck me for the formatting, I forgot how anal /. is... God, it's like a bunch of linux nerds run this place!

      I know, but there is one thing I can't understand. Why do they have that preview button? A real linux nerd would never use it. Oh wait...

  12. Already done by onco_p53 · · Score: 4, Informative

    We have had this in New Zealand for a while now, the product is Ripe Sense invented by scientists at Hort Research New Zealand.

  13. Pears by sc0p3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Had these on Pears for years. They simply drive up the price of the fruit and add to the global plastic waste problem. The pears are packaged in packs of 4 in a plastic container.

    Just squeeze the pears for crying out loud.

  14. An idea.. by metushelach · · Score: 3, Funny

    A small modification of these stickers (e.g. amount of alcohol in blood) would make them very suitable for blind dates.

  15. a ripeness sticker? by conn3x · · Score: 3, Funny

    I know a few coworkers I could stick a "ripeness" sticker on...

  16. OR, you could put up pictures by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 3, Funny

    You could always put up pictures to help people with how to tell what ripe fruit of whatever variety looks/feels like. It's relatively easy with bananas, but you cant' squeeze tomatoes to tell if they're ripe. The only thing we need stickers for is mangoes, because no one in the world knows when a mango is ripe!

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  17. Do what now? by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 4, Funny
    The stickers do not change color to reflect an overripe or rotten piece of fruit.
    Luckily, the fruit itself still does. Do you really need science to tell you not to eat the dark brown apples or fuzzy green oranges?
  18. Quagmire version by Kris+Warkentin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Need one of these for girls:

    "18 yet? Let me check the sticker....Giggaty giggity gig!"

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