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Game Industry Commentary on the E3 Revamp

John Callaham writes "FiringSquad examines what happened to cause the Electronic Entertainment Expo to implode and retrench for 2007, and posts opinions on the expo's revamp from game industry insiders. Interviewees include 3D Realms' Scott Miller, Gearbox Software's Randy Pitchford, Rusty Williams of Flying Lab Software, Feargus Urquhart of Obsidian Entertainment and more."

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  1. Some quotes by mobby_6kl · · Score: 2, Funny

    During our interview, Scott Miller has mentioned that the company is "working within the industry to organize a better, more focused, trade show", the original date of the new event was set to fall 2007. However due to some changes the event was postponed to at least late 2008. "Our design phase has gone well, but we are having some difficulties with the new layout. For now, there is no date, it will be done when it's done."

  2. No more booth girls? by elmCitySlim · · Score: 2, Funny

    Whats the point then?

    Oh yea...videogames...

  3. Cheaper Games? by TheAngryMob · · Score: 3, Funny

    All the money the publishers save by downsizing E3 will surely be passed along to the consumers by way of lower game prices. Right?

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    1. Re:Cheaper Games? by interiot · · Score: 1

      How about if game journalists get more than 3 minutes of hands-on time with new products, rather than just writing stories about how long they had to wait in line for the Wii?

    2. Re:Cheaper Games? by Amouth · · Score: 1

      if it wasn't for your id.. i would say you where new here.......

      but when you think about it.. yea.. it will be passed on to the consumers by the way of lower game prices if Consumers = publishers.

      i mean it will make the game a hell of a lot cheeper ..

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    3. Re:Cheaper Games? by govtpiggy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or it'll just get shifted into advertising budgets. Money spent on E3 was generally for the purpose of advertising anyway.

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  4. Mixed feelings by p0tat03 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    On one hand, it IS true that the industry loses a ridiculous amount of time each year just sharpening up E3 demos that don't go anywhere, and a lot of dev time is wasted (on the order of MONTHS) just on this one event alone that are not productive towards the end product at all.

    On the other hand, E3 was the only event that the mass media ever covered. You don't see anything about GDC on the pages of the world, you hear only about E3. Methinks they need to do two things:

    - Scale back E3 to its original model: backroom shows and press conferences. More professional, less glitzy.

    - Create secondary shows *with* the glitz in the same model as the car shows of the world. Publishers come in and let the public get some hands-on time with their new hardware and software. These are darlings for the mass media, without impacting the professional side of things.

    In other words, one perfectly serious professionals-only conference, and another glitzy conference from the proles.

    1. Re:Mixed feelings by anjin-san+3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I disagree. I think the video game industry has become large enough that it doesn't need a carnival to promote itself anymore. If journalists stop writing about E3 because it's no longer a circus, then they're probably the guys who know nothing about video games to begin with and they're doing us a favor by not writing about the industry.

    2. Re:Mixed feelings by andrewman327 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I attended a balloon festival in New Jersey on Sunday. There was a carnival atmosphere and many booths promoting different things. One tent was by Microsoft and they had 8 XBox 360s crammed in with people waiting for all of them. I think this is a good marketing tactic. The whole event cost very little for them and hundreds (if not thousands) of people played their games across the three days they were there. One of the best things is that it attracted people who are not obsessed gamers who read EGM cover to cover. They were average people and there was no competition from other game companies.

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    3. Re:Mixed feelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Adult Video can get its own pavillion at CES, then why not video games? This is a perfect venue to round up contacts and present product and content for consumer electronics, which is exactly what video games are anyway.

    4. Re:Mixed feelings by slaker · · Score: 1

      The AVN Expo is a different convention that just happens to happen at the same time as the nerdfest that is CES.

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  5. but the booth babes. . . by AcidLacedPenguiN · · Score: 1

    what will the booth babes do now that they no longer have jobs?
    I think we should start the "One Booth Babe For Every Gamer" initiative!

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  6. Bah humbug. by BlackCobra43 · · Score: 1

    Booth babes only served to reinforce the stereotype that gamers are hopelessly clueless nerds that drool over even moderately attractive females that feign interest in videogames. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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    1. Re:Bah humbug. by p0tat03 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As opposed to car babes that reinforce the stereotype that rich sports car/muscle car junkies are clueless nerds that drool over every moderately attractive female that feigns interest in cars?

      Booth babes aren't there to satiate the fantasies of hopeless nerds, they're there 'cos sex sells, clueless nerd or not.

    2. Re:Bah humbug. by Nanassi · · Score: 1

      Or even that all gamers are straight, desperate men/boys. *offers the industry a cluex4

    3. Re:Bah humbug. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I may not be desperate but I still like looking at tits, and so do the majority of gay men I know.

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    4. Re:Bah humbug. by Nanassi · · Score: 1

      Ah, but as a straight female who is also a gamer? No thanks.

    5. Re:Bah humbug. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Right but to date, the females (regardless of sexual orientation) have been a serious minority, and even today 99% of female gamers probably couldn't give one tenth of one shit about going to E3 or GDC or any of these other dick-fests filled with booth babes. I mean, there was never so egregious a sausage party as a video game convention. Now, women are becoming more prevalent in gaming, but I think the overall interest in gaming conventions is pretty small among them; also, keep in mind that most of the people in gaming with money are the same people as have money in the rest of the world, old wrinkly white people. They want to see boobs even if it's only appropriate in terms of their return to the womb/tomb. (Even steven hawking's nurse has nice, well-displayed boobies, and he couldn't even lift up his arm to squeeze one.)

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  7. Just a guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But they'll probably end up going back to polishing chrome poles with their ass cheeks and escorting part time like they were doing before.. I could be wrong though.

  8. You're comparing apples to oranges by BlackCobra43 · · Score: 1

    Car babes reinforce the cultural stereotype that people with nice cars "get the babes". Big,powerful cars are a sign of virility in North America and I hope to God you're not pretending the same allure exists with COMPUTER GAMES.

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    1. Re:You're comparing apples to oranges by Drey · · Score: 1

      "Hey baby, wanna come back to my place and see my forsaken rogue with the full tier 3 raid set?"

    2. Re:You're comparing apples to oranges by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

      Interesting, I thought that big, powerful cars were a sign of compensation.

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  9. ex. DOA Extreme Volleyball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  10. Website journalists... better than us! by st964p62 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "Even though E3 was more strict this past May in keeping some unnecessary people out, there were still a ton of people that showed up that had no business attending the show (you know who you are)."

    That hurts a lot coming from this guy: http://www.firingsquad.com/authors/author_profile. asp/44

    While I understand that E3 is a trade event, I think there's something to be said for "the masses" being allowed in. We're the people who buy the games they're peddling, and for that matter support the press who cover the event. Without us neither game publishers, nor this Firing Squad goober would have a job in this industry.

  11. Will a smaller E3 alienate the little guys? by spyrochaete · · Score: 1

    I've watched a bunch of E3 keynotes that I found on Bittorrent and I found them mostly very informative. The Sony talks are by far the most professional as they have a technical slant whereas Nintendo and especially Microsoft are rah-rah sessions by marketing jerks. From what I've read about the "interactive" booth areas of E3 it sounds like it's pretty much a series of standing in long lines, unintentionally rubbing up against stinky fat people, playing alpha versions of immature software, and getting promotional freebies.

    It sounds to me like much of E3 is expendable, but do we really expect Crysoft to speak for an hour on a huge stage about their next first person shooter on an island? I guess they'll have to maintain some semblance of the old expo.

    Also, in the latest PC Gamer one of the editors, Logan Decker, writes a short column describing the downstairs poor man's booths where he often sees the most outlandish and exciting stuff from designers and manufacturers that can't afford the high profile upstairs freakshow. He saw stuff like H.R. Giger-inspired water cooling kits and German sex games. Will the little guy make it in to a smaller E3?

    1. Re:Will a smaller E3 alienate the little guys? by p0tat03 · · Score: 1

      I dunno about you, but to me the new E3 format does exactly what you want. We get away from 3-hour lineups to see the Wii, and you get more keynotes, more speakers, more backroom shows, more meetings... It's precisely the atmosphere that will allow for somebody from Crytek to give a big long speech about their next game - without the noise and flashy lights and trying to out-amp the other speakers in the hall just to make yourself heard.

      Kentia Hall... I'm not sure what's going to happen with that. But really, a low-key conference that stays away from the glitzy lights and million-dollar booths of the old E3 should only help highlight the smaller players, by effectively drawing people away from the glitz (since it don't exist no 'mo) and putting booths and displays on a slightly more equal footing.

  12. I, for one, scorn our boardroom overlords... by Doches · · Score: 1

    Go ahead, say it. Call me an idiot, an easily distracted consumer. Call me a prole, and feel free to trash talk my complete lack of intellect. But I'll miss E3.

    Sure, it was expensive. Sure, it was over-the-top, blatant advertising. But hell, that was the point! E3 didn't exist to promote great development practices, or to help developers meet budgets or release dates. Nominally, I suppose, it was a conference for game journalists -- anything to generate some buzz.

    But that's not it, either.

    E3 was our focus, our main event, our one-and-only spotlight from the real world. Mainstream news took a break from its busy Iraq schedule to shine some light on what the hell those kids do all day, and, let's face it, we rolled in that spotlight. We reveled in it. Fantastic parties were thrown, drinks were opened, babes were hired (Err...the other kind) -- and we watched, and cared, because at some fundamental level, this was for us. For our benefit, megacorporations were throwing dollars into parties and fanfare, and hey, who else threw parties for gamers?

    The spectacle of E3 was for us, and there's no way a conference based on meetings and boardrooms can ever really be ours. *tear*

  13. Authoritative Commentary by kie · · Score: 1

    As normal, Penny Arcade provides authoritative commentary.

    http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/07/31

    Anything else is just superfluous

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  14. People that do this for a living, are happy. by Rifter13 · · Score: 1

    It seems that a lot of people that are in the gaming business are happy about this. I am talking about people on BOTH sides of the fence. The developers AND the journalists. I think the people missing it the most, will be the gamers. There is something cool about seeing all the insane pictures take. I know that E3 became more of a chore between the first time I went, and the last time I went. I have good friends that have attended the last few shows, and comment that the show is getting too big, though they look forward to it each year.

    A more intimate E3 will really reduce the excitement of E3, but I believe that the QUALITY of the show will go up greatly.

  15. A smaller E3 will only help them... by Svartalf · · Score: 1

    For starters, most of the "little guys" can't DO E3 anyhow- everyone that did, however,
    wasted a LOT of energy on trying to make demos to showboat there. Like Comdex that fell
    before it, it became a victim of its own success and was a massive timesink rather than
    a useful thing to do- but you did it anyway because "everyone else is doing it..."

    There's at least a few venues picking up speed that are more for the "little" guys to
    connect up with publishers and tool vendors (The Texas Independent Game Conference
    is one of the most recent examples of this- and something that apparently went so well
    that it's going to get repeated next year without question. The glitz probably ought
    to be happening at venues like PAX or QuakeCON (Yes, QuakeCON...) and things like the
    vendors and publishers meeting up with studios, etc. should probably happen at GDC, TIGC,
    or similar- it'll be a better use of everybody's time and resources that way.

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  16. I'm grateful it ended, but I still have concerns by Rolman · · Score: 1

    Last year I wrote this comment about the current state of E3. Granted, this year went a little better than I expected, but still, I couldn't help but keep having the same feeling since 2001 that companies were throwing their money away in a silly pissing contest to "win the E3". In particular, Sony was a big loser this time around, since they spent tens of millions of dollars just to be bashed and told their strategies were wrong, and leave them with more millions to spend doing damage control. I imagine it'd be very hard for them to do the same thing next year.

    I'm somewhat happy that E3, as we know it, is over. I'm also grateful that I had the opportunity to be there so many times while it lasted, it was a very exciting era. It's great that it wasn't allowed to linger in agony much longer.

    Now I have some concerns with the new changes. While I agree that it's generally a good thing to make it smaller and prevent illegitimate people to go there next year, the small media outlets and bloggers will be left out, so that the only people allowed are those with financial reasons to be there. My biggest concern is that the media runs the risk to become even more biased than it was, now that companies can address them directly.

    It's bad for the fanboys, it's good for developers, and it's paradise for PR.

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  17. All Good Things... by robbiedo · · Score: 0

    I sure am going to miss the Sony E3 parties. I always thought to myself,"This place looks expensive, I must be wasting money just standing here."