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Robot Balances on a Single Spherical Wheel

dalangalma writes "Researchers at Carnegie Mellon University's Robotics Institute have developed a new kind of robot called the Ballbot that balances on a steel ball. Using a mechanism similar to a ball mouse, the Ballbot uses rollers to drive its single, spherical wheel and balance in place or glide around the room. The promise of such dynamically stable robots is that they can be much taller without having to have a wide base, making them much more suitable for working with humans. They are also much more agile, since they can be pushed out of the way easily without falling over. You can read the press release or check out the project's web page when it recovers from traffic."

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  1. translation by McDrewbie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "single spherical wheel" = a ball

    1. Re:translation by jboker · · Score: 4, Funny

      thanks, i was confused

  2. meet the new dalek by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 5, Funny

    re:"The promise of such dynamically stable robots is that they can be much taller without having to have a wide base, making them much more suitable for working with humans. "

    Until said humans goes down a flight of stairs.

    *Oof*
    *Bounce*
    *Expensive crashey noises*

    At this rate we'll have-em screaming "exterminate" in no time.

    (and yes I know post 2005 Daleks can do everything and go everywhere - I'm talking pre-video-game dalek)

    1. Re:meet the new dalek by Kennric · · Score: 4, Insightful

      With a suitable suspension I don't see why they would not do fine on stairs. If the balancing algorithm is good, it should recover fine on each step. A little laser rangefinding could even allow it to know it was going down stairs and adjust accordingly. Certainly a dynamicly balanced bot would fair better than a 4-wheeler going down the same stairs. If I can ride a motorcyle down the stairs, my new robotic biroid overlords should not have a problem.

    2. Re:meet the new dalek by miro+f · · Score: 3, Insightful

      yes but can you get them to go UP the stairs?

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    3. Re:meet the new dalek by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, but try going UP the stairs. That's a bit more of a problem.

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    4. Re:meet the new dalek by LionKimbro · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think this technology could be adapted to human like motion.

      Turn the ball on the ground into an ankle. That is, put a foot/pod beneath the ball, and the robot balances itself above the foot/pod.

      Then it should be stable enough to take a step with the other foot/pod.

      I'm thinking: "The reason you can't put two of these side-by-side, joined at the top, and make it walk up stairs, is because there's such a sudden change in it's weight distribution when it picks up one foot. You need something to be stable."

      I started asking myself, "How do people do it?", ... and realized that we have these big flat things underneath us: our feet. And that we might balance ourselves using our various joints.

      If you stack up 3 of these things on top of each other, and synchronize their intelligence, can they stand up on top of one another? That's what I want to know now.

  3. Familiar? by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's been a loooong time since I watched the show, but didn't the Jetson's have a robot like this?

  4. Weebles... by RyanFenton · · Score: 4, Funny

    Weebles wobble, but they don't take over humanity.
    Other jokes could involve roll-on deodorant, or those kid's inflatable boxing dummies that flip back up when you hit them.

    Neat design, really. I think a lot of people's first urge would be to try and push the robot over though, which like the old Weebles, may produce that same herky-jerky roll back to stability. I wonder how much gunk would build up in the mouse-wheel of those things though - be hard to turn it over to clean with that production model. Have to have some kind of door in it to clean without taking it out.

    Ryan Fenton

    1. Re:Weebles... by Crazyscottie · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In a world that brought us self-cleaning ovens among other gadgets, I would assume that mankind is intelligent enough to build a self-cleaning spherical-wheeled robot. Then again, we all know what happens when you assume things...

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  5. Killer app? by ChozCunningham · · Score: 4, Funny

    Shrink this down and fill it with ink. An automatic pen! Well, it sounds good on paper...

  6. Ooops by GeoSanDiego · · Score: 3, Funny

    Help. I am a robot and I have fallen and I can't get up.

    1. Re:Ooops by I+Like+Pudding · · Score: 5, Funny

      Incorrect. Weeblots wobble, but they don't fall down.

    2. Re:Ooops by Short+Circuit · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's an amusing mental picture:

      A robot ends up dragging and whipping its body all over the lab, smashing and breaking things in an effort to right itself.

      Of course, I assume they have it give up if it the torso passes a certain inclination.

    3. Re:Ooops by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Insightful

      FTFA: "Ballbot has an onboard computer that reads balance information from its internal sensors, activating rollers that mobilize the ball on which it moves -- a system that is essentially an inverse mouse-ball drive. When Ballbot is not in operation, it stands in place on three retractable legs."

      One word: lint. This sucker will fall down as soon as the rollers get clogged up, same as your mouse stops working.

      Or try spilling some oil from your salad on the ground. Or leave a few pieces of duct tape, sticky side up, lying around,

      I'll welcome our robot overlords to follow me ... down this flight of stairs, you motherf*ckers! :-)

      "Hollis is working to prove that dynamically stable robots like Ballbot can outperform their static counterparts."

      Humans are also dynamically stable. Even when we're standing still, we're dynamically balanced, as muscles alternately contract and release to maintain our balance. He doesn't have to "prove" this - its something evolution worked out long ago.

  7. I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    welcome our big balled overlords

    1. Re:I for one... by Scaba · · Score: 2, Funny

      And who doesn't enjoy a sack of Schweaty balls during the holidays?

  8. Re:i'm surprised this hasnt come around sooner... by Mark+Programmer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Similar, but different.

    The overall concept is the same (in the sense that you have a system to balance and probably similar mathematics to do it), but the single point of contact with the ground makes for a different solution matrix. Segways need only balance in one dimension; this robot has to account for two, and it must solve for its balance with one manipulator. To add to the complexity, it must also navigate and motivate itself; a Segway's navigation system takes advantage of the sensors and processor installed in all of its cargo (a handy feature!) to offset the 'heavy lifting' of directional goals.

    I believe this project may also pre-date the segway by a few years, if you look at the papers published on it.

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  9. A boon to senior citizens by grammar+fascist · · Score: 4, Funny
    They are also much more agile, since they can be pushed out of the way easily without falling over.

    You know, I've always hated that whenever I try to push a robot out of the way, I fall over.

    This feature will be a boon to senior citizens especially.
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    1. Re:A boon to senior citizens by philo_enyce · · Score: 3, Funny

      better make sure they buy their robot insurance...

  10. How is this "much more suitable"? by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The promise of such dynamically stable robots is that they can be much taller without having to have a wide base, making them much more suitable for working with humans

    Huh? How does thinner = autmatically "much more suitable"? I just don't get it. We're used to working with people, and that extends to their personal space, which is substantially larger than the person. Who says that human/robot 'synergy' has anything to do with how fat the robot is?

    Nevermind that all that active movement to keep standing upright means lots of battery drain, and irritating/distracting movement to said humans. We find coworkers that tap pens on their desks annoying, but they think this will 'fly'?

    Oh, when the battery runs out of juice, or a motor (or its controller) goes dead- hilarity ensues...

    1. Re:How is this "much more suitable"? by Idarubicin · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Huh? How does thinner = autmatically "much more suitable"? I just don't get it. We're used to working with people, and that extends to their personal space, which is substantially larger than the person. Who says that human/robot 'synergy' has anything to do with how fat the robot is?
      Find a wheelchair. Try to navigate through your daily routine. Ever notice how most human spaces aren't designed for a wide chassis? Imagine if ''everybody'' was in a wheelchair. Try passing the 'slow walker' (you know who I'm talking about) in the hallway without running into the guy coming the other way. Tall and skinny--in other words, more human-shaped--is an advantage in working with humans, because humans work in human-shaped places.

      For that matter, you're less likely to trip over a robot that's five feet tall than one that's two feet tall; tall robots are easier to see. Wide, low robots would be a nuisance to work with. It would be like having dozens of short, fat children always getting in the way.

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  11. Piers Anthony alien race from Cluster? by andykuan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I vaguely recall there being an alien race in Piers Anthony's Cluster series that balanced and moved on a single large ball. Anyone remember the name of the race? It'd be wonderfully nerdy if the CMU folks renamed their robot after these aliens. I also vaguely recall these aliens having sex by going around and around in a circle rolling continuously over a trail of slime. Maybe the CMU robots can do that too...

    1. Re:Piers Anthony alien race from Cluster? by NinjaFarmer · · Score: 5, Funny

      You remember how they have sex but you can't remember their name?.. ?

      I can't count the times I've asked myself something similar in the morning.

    2. Re:Piers Anthony alien race from Cluster? by William_Lee · · Score: 2, Informative
      Actually, there is a race of aliens called mulefa in Philip Pullman's 'The Amber Spyglass' trilogy that roll around on a single large ball. I think they should name them after these. BTW, It's a pretty good read.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulefa

    3. Re:Piers Anthony alien race from Cluster? by Maru+Dubshinki · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Mulefa (from what I remember of reading the trilogy and having me memory refreshed by the Wikipedia article) don't use a single ball or wheel; they use several wheels and stick their limbs through them. I don't think the Piers Anthony ones used a single ball either (didn't they use pillars as rollers?).

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    4. Re:Piers Anthony alien race from Cluster? by smoker2 · · Score: 3, Informative
      The Polarians.

      "It was a tear drop shaped thing with a massive spherical wheel on the bottom and a limber tentacle or trunk at the top"

      They communicated by vibrating a smaller spherical ball on the end of the trunk against another object (ie the ground). AFAICR

      As for the sex, they chase each other round in an ever decreasing circle, incensed by each others trails, until they touch. Then the male polarian releases his large wheel and joins onto the females large wheel so that they both join at the seam. Then they spin the wheel until it springs into life and forms a child. After that, the female pinches the males communication wheel to use as a transit wheel, leaving him temporarily mute, and he gets to use his old transit wheel again.

      I can't believe I just described that !
      I do have the trilogy on the shelf though. It is the Cluster Trilogy by Piers Anthony, consisting of Vicinity Cluster, Chaining the Lady, and Kirlian Quest. Weird books, based around the transference of a beings aura across galactic distances and that aura inhabiting living "hosts" once transferred. Lots of tarot references too.
  12. NEW technology?!? by snafu109 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Using a mechanism similar to a ball mouse

    Pfft... Let me know when they've developed a mechanism similar to a laser mouse.

  13. Power issues, thinness by Mark+Programmer · · Score: 5, Informative

    FTA:

    "When Ballbot is not in operation, it stands in place on three retractable legs."

    So 'nervous balance' motions won't be necessary, one could assume.

    As for the thinness issue: it is precisely the personal space issue that makes a thin robot useful in a crowded public space. Our perception of personal space factors in the personal space of the other person. So a robot that is as wide as one's 'personal space bubble' causes people interacting with it to give it even more room. The thin chassis on this robot alleviates that problem by only taking up an amount of space roughly equivalent to the human torso, so that a person's "personal space guess" comes out accurately.

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  14. Technological Threat by MsGeek · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Technological Thret" is an 1988 animated short directed by Bill Kroyer. It centers around the introduction of an office robot that rolls around on a single ball in the bottom of its structure. One of the interesting little details about the short was that the robots were first animated in a computer, then rotoscoped in 2D to fit with the rest of the 2D short. The bot in the short didn't look *that much* like the Ballbot, but just enough to bring it to mind.

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  15. Re:Not So Strange by DumbSwede · · Score: 3, Funny

    Only the ones without legs

  16. Ballbot in action by novus+ordo · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are some videos available on youtube, in case you want to spare them some bandwidth.

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  17. supermarket shopping cart syndrome by zogger · · Score: 2, Insightful

    first wad of gum that thing rolls over might bring it to a stop, or make it list to port or something ->
    roll THUNK roll THUNK. And stairs? Or going outside?

      I like old school, traditional sci fi robots, humanoid looking, bipedal walking type. If they need to get fancy, drop in the jackie chan mod chip or something.

  18. Who named this??? by I+Like+Pudding · · Score: 2, Funny

    This thing should star in a 1960s Japanese movie.

    *speaking into wrist communicator* Ballbot! TRANSFORM!

  19. Very nice by Animats · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's a nice system. There are some annoying limitations, though. It's tough to change the orientation of the robot, although you can handle that if you have a rotational joint further up so you can rotate the torso. Small diameter balls have the same problems as small diameter wheels - it's easy to get stuck in small depressions. That's why the Segway has such big wheels. And driving a sphere is always a tough problem mechanically. Most of the solutions have trouble with dirt accumulating on the drive wheels, which is why optical mice have replaced ball mice. It's possible to build a spherical electric motor, and that might be the way to go if this concept turns out to be useful.

    It's good to see all this activity in self-balancing systems again, having worked on this around 1994-1995, and seen others working on it in the 1980s. Today, you can buy so much of what you need off the shelf, like good INS units. We used to waste too much time building custom stuff.

  20. Terrible Secret by Wilson_6500 · · Score: 4, Funny

    With the advent of robots that are immune to pushing, the eternal question becomes more relevant than ever: do you have stairs in your house?

    1. Re:Terrible Secret by Hadlock · · Score: 2

      As long as you've got a pusher robot, you should be protected.

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  21. They must have had a few bugs in the software by viking2000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    In the videos they have threaded a big innertube over the structure, presumably to cushion the fall every time it tipped over.

    Since the purpose of this structure is to interact with humans, They should just install big inflatable boobs and ass instead.

  22. Re:Step one completed by LionKimbro · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Tachiko-maaaa!

    My daughter's obsessed w/ Tachikoma, as well. She's buying blue everything, to look like one. Her biggest dilemma right now in life, is whether to die her hair purple, (and thus resemble the Major,) or to die her hair blue (and thus resemble a Tachikoma.)

  23. Re:Problems by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    What happens when the robot tilts forward and so needs to move forward to correct its balance, but runs into something before it has moved far enough to correct itself? Does it simply fall over?

    My kids would probably take it down with a single Hotwheel toy. They took me down a few times that way. Too bad they are too young to sue.

  24. Re:i'm surprised this hasnt come around sooner... by veganboyjosh · · Score: 2, Funny

    In fact all sorts of sudden directional changes and steering become much simpler.

    at first glance, maybe.
    but think about this: i'm a bicycle mechanic, and tool around with various art bikes in my spare time. one idea i had was for a dual steering bike, where both wheels turned at the same time, synched up with rods and bearings. the goal was to make a bike that travels diagonally, or even sideways, once the balance issues are worked out. as i thought about this, it occured to me that if i was riding along at a steady pace on a northerly heading--say 10 mph, and turned the bars to the west a little bit--turning both wheels in the same direction--the bike and me aren't gonna all of a sudden gonna be travelling in a northwest heading. the bike and i have momentum built up, as well the wheels act as gyroscopes, which aren't all that easy to turn while they're spinning. as i go to turn the bars, i'll be tweaking the bike and me in the direction/amount i've tried to turn the bars. the bike and i will continue heading north, but we'll be sort of doglegged, riding sideways... i couldn't figure out how to get past this, so i abandoned the project...

  25. Re:i'm surprised this hasnt come around sooner... by SnowZero · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Preface: My lab has four Segway-RMPs (RMP = robotics mobility platform). I don't work with them directly, but I know quite a bit about the work being done.

    The main advantage of the ballbot is that it can be narrower to fit in tight spaces. The footprint of an RMP isn't really any better than the other robots it replaces. The Segway's main advantages are that it is fast, it works outdoors, and it can carry fairly heavly loads. The ballbot looks like a work in progress, and the results in the paper do not indicate that the control is anywhere near as stable as the current Segways.

    In the paper they state the inevitable demise of statically balanced robots, though I'm not sure I believe that. Balance controllers are not very friendly when they trip over objects on the floor - they drive faster and faster into the object until the object yields (i.e. breaks) or the robot cannot keep up, and eventually fall one way or the other. An angry Segway is thus not very pleasant. Balanced platforms do react nicely to disturbances at the top end, however. Ballbot will have to have a smooth cover so as not to get hooked on anything, which is another problem. Ultimately, I would not be suprised to eventually see semi-balanced bases: A statically stable robot that can hinge near the bottom for dynamic actions but can come to rest while holding a position.

    Regarding the speed issue, I think I'd be happy to race an RMP against the ballbot. Even if directional changes are required for the Segway, it would be hard to beat it over a traversal of any length. Our lab is also at CMU, so a race is actually possible :) The current owner of Xavier should throw him in there too; He looks very lonely now as he has been consigned to work on a robotic crane for several years now instead of roaming the halls of Wean or NSH.

    Finally, it is quite a shame the paper doesn't even seem to acknowledge the existence of RMPs. Yes, they are not the original self-balancing robots, but they are the only one which is commercially available, and famous enough that they likely form the inspiration for this work. We've had the RMPs since 2003 (which the Segway HT obviously pre-dates), and the earliest ballbot paper was 2005.

  26. Amazing. by tomato · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is the first time I've posted to Slashdot in nearly 5 years.

    That robot in the videos is truly amazing - graceful, simple, and harmonious.

    This is what we need - systems that co-operate with humans, can be pushed around, and stick to their own personal space.

    We need more beauty and grace in the world, not less.

    I work in technology, but I also study feng shui, and that robot has it in abundance.

  27. Giant ball crushes people? by bugg · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Ah, Carnegie Mellon. My alma matter.

    Knowing the folks at the robotics institute it'll be about 2 years before we see the army testing out a prototype robot that balances on a ball .... and then uses the ball to crush infantry while launching missiles.

    CMU has a lot of great projects like that. Gladiator, Crusher... I know that most individual robot builders mean well, and I have friends who are anti-war at the RI, but seriously, look at who is actually demanding this technology and where it's being used. It's not being used to house the poor.

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  28. CARRYING ALONG THE MOUSE ANALOGY... by way2trivial · · Score: 2, Funny

    we'll make it optical, that'll solve the problem!

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